[Mono-list] Component services

2004-05-26 Thread KiOrKY
Hi
I ask myself about:
How do the component services work in mono?
where can we give the parameters?
Regards

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Re: [Mono-list] Component services

2004-05-26 Thread A Rafael D Teixeira
On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 10:09, KiOrKY wrote:
> Hi
> I ask myself about:
> How do the component services work in mono?
> where can we give the parameters?
> Regards

Hi Kiorky,

IMPORTANT: It would help a lot if you could write COMPLETE questions.
Deciphering your intentions is hard.

Answers:
Component Services are provided by COM+ in windows, and tie with .NET
with the help of the classes in System.EnterpriseServices namespace. We
don't have such a beast as a COM+ infraestructure in Linux, so Mono does
implement very little of what is in the System.EnterpriseServices
namespace. Try alternative approaches to develop your applications (COM+
is also being abandoned in favor of Longhorn's Indigo, even by
Microsoft).

What parameters are you refering to? Most things in .NET around
Component Services is just dealt by tagging classes with specific
Attributes, so that the com-wrappers that System.EnterpriseServices put
in place expose the correct COM face to the COM+ container. Don't even
try that with Mono, we won't implement COM Wrappers, period.

Hope it clarifies a bit,

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Re: [Mono-list] Component services

2004-05-26 Thread KiOrKY
Yeah, 
so i want just to test for example a "mutli base" operation:
   i soustract X from base A and add these X to base B.
BTW i want to assure integrity of this operation.

   This is simple under .net and as you say component servives using COM+ MTS

Is that possible?
regards

A Rafael D Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

> On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 10:09, KiOrKY wrote:
> > Hi
> > I ask myself about:
> > How do the component services work in mono?
> > where can we give the parameters?
> > Regards
> 
> Hi Kiorky,
> 
> IMPORTANT: It would help a lot if you could write COMPLETE questions.
> Deciphering your intentions is hard.
> 
> Answers:
> Component Services are provided by COM+ in windows, and tie with .NET
> with the help of the classes in System.EnterpriseServices namespace. We
> don't have such a beast as a COM+ infraestructure in Linux, so Mono does
> implement very little of what is in the System.EnterpriseServices
> namespace. Try alternative approaches to develop your applications (COM+
> is also being abandoned in favor of Longhorn's Indigo, even by
> Microsoft).
> 
> What parameters are you refering to? Most things in .NET around
> Component Services is just dealt by tagging classes with specific
> Attributes, so that the com-wrappers that System.EnterpriseServices put
> in place expose the correct COM face to the COM+ container. Don't even
> try that with Mono, we won't implement COM Wrappers, period.
> 
> Hope it clarifies a bit,
> 
> -- 
> Rafael "Monoman" Teixeira 
> Mono Hacker since 16 Jul 2001 - http://www.go-mono.org/
> Mono Brasil Founding Member - http://monobrasil.redesolbrasil.org/
> English Blog: http://monoblog.blogspot.com/
> Brazilian Portuguese Blog: http://monoblog.weblogger.terra.com.br/

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[Fwd: Re: [Mono-list] Component services]

2004-05-26 Thread A Rafael D Teixeira
Oops, forgot to copy the list...

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> From: A Rafael D Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: KiOrKY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Component services
> Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:59:41 -0300
> 
> On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 11:36, KiOrKY wrote:
> > Yeah, 
> > so i want just to test for example a "mutli base" operation:
> >i soustract X from base A and add these X to base B.
> > BTW i want to assure integrity of this operation.
> 
> Well, we support ADO.NET Transactions, but as we currently don't have a
> DTC (Distributed Transaction Coordinator), distributed transactions
> aren't supported. Care to implement a DTC for Mono?
> 
> > 
> >This is simple under .net and as you say component servives using COM+ MTS
> > 
> > Is that possible?
> > regards
> > 
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Mono Brasil Founding Member - http://monobrasil.redesolbrasil.org/
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [Mono-list] Component services]

2004-05-26 Thread Gregory Junker
I am actually considering implementing a DTC for Linux at all (LAMP
stack, specifically, but could be bound to .NET I'm sure)...I can't
believe no one has done it yet, but my search thus far has been
fruitless.

IMO, the fact that the LAMP stack is missing that key piece of
functionality is a large part of what keeps it from being considered
"industrial strength" in many circles...and the utility of a DTC is
inarguable to anyone seriously considering non-trivial and reliable
busniess applications.

Greg

> Oops, forgot to copy the list...
>
> -Forwarded Message-
>> From: A Rafael D Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: KiOrKY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Component services
>> Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:59:41 -0300
>>
>> On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 11:36, KiOrKY wrote:
>> > Yeah,
>> > so i want just to test for example a "mutli base" operation:
>> >i soustract X from base A and add these X to base B.
>> > BTW i want to assure integrity of this operation.
>>
>> Well, we support ADO.NET Transactions, but as we currently don't have
>> a DTC (Distributed Transaction Coordinator), distributed transactions
>> aren't supported. Care to implement a DTC for Mono?
>>
>> >
>> >This is simple under .net and as you say component servives
>> using
>> COM+ MTS
>> >
>> > Is that possible?
>> > regards
>> >
> --
> Rafael "Monoman" Teixeira
> Mono Hacker since 16 Jul 2001 - http://www.go-mono.org/
> Mono Brasil Founding Member - http://monobrasil.redesolbrasil.org/
> English Blog: http://monoblog.blogspot.com/
> Brazilian Portuguese Blog: http://monoblog.weblogger.terra.com.br/
>
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Re: [Fwd: Re: [Mono-list] Component services]

2004-05-26 Thread Gregory Junker
I am actually considering implementing a DTC for Linux at all (LAMP stack,
specifically, but could be bound to .NET I'm sure)...I can't believe no
one has done it yet, but my search thus far has been fruitless.

IMO, the fact that the LAMP stack is missing that key piece of
functionality is a large part of what keeps it from being considered
"industrial strength" in many circles...and the utility of a DTC is
inarguable to anyone seriously considering non-trivial and reliable
busniess applications.

Greg

> Oops, forgot to copy the list...
>
> -Forwarded Message-
>> From: A Rafael D Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: KiOrKY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Mono-list] Component services
>> Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 11:59:41 -0300
>>
>> On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 11:36, KiOrKY wrote:
>> > Yeah,
>> > so i want just to test for example a "mutli base" operation:
>> >i soustract X from base A and add these X to base B.
>> > BTW i want to assure integrity of this operation.
>>
>> Well, we support ADO.NET Transactions, but as we currently don't have
>> a DTC (Distributed Transaction Coordinator), distributed transactions
>> aren't supported. Care to implement a DTC for Mono?
>>
>> >
>> >This is simple under .net and as you say component servives using
>> COM+ MTS
>> >
>> > Is that possible?
>> > regards
>> >
> --
> Rafael "Monoman" Teixeira
> Mono Hacker since 16 Jul 2001 - http://www.go-mono.org/
> Mono Brasil Founding Member - http://monobrasil.redesolbrasil.org/
> English Blog: http://monoblog.blogspot.com/
> Brazilian Portuguese Blog: http://monoblog.weblogger.terra.com.br/
>
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