Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
On 1/3/07, Corbin Hoenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think that with Novell's recent deal with Microsoft that there could be some extra leverage to get this to happen? We've been spending lots of time on the CAB and I don't know how I built apps without some kind of plugin/composite framework before. Just checked out the licence for Smart Client/CAB at http://www.codeplex.com/smartclient/Project/License.aspx, and it is different from the one for Web Client Software Factory (http://www.codeplex.com/websf/Project/License.aspx). It seems that WebSF can only be run on Windows, but no such restriction on CAB. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
Tom Opgenorth wrote: On 1/3/07, Corbin Hoenes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think that with Novell's recent deal with Microsoft that there could be some extra leverage to get this to happen? We've been spending lots of time on the CAB and I don't know how I built apps without some kind of plugin/composite framework before. Just checked out the licence for Smart Client/CAB at http://www.codeplex.com/smartclient/Project/License.aspx, and it is different from the one for Web Client Software Factory (http://www.codeplex.com/websf/Project/License.aspx). It seems that WebSF can only be run on Windows, but no such restriction on CAB. Check section 3(F) of CAB's license. You've basically no rights to run this software on a platform != Windows. Robert ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
On 1/4/07, Robert Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check section 3(F) of CAB's license. You've basically no rights to run this software on a platform != Windows. IANAL, but there seems to be some wiggle room there: Mono can run on Windows. If you use Mono, and make sure you support Windows, then you should be okay still to use CAB in your Mono application. However, probably best to get advice from a lawyer in your area. :) ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
Hi Guys, The Mono will give support to CAB model (http://www.codeplex.com/websf and http://www.codeplex.com/smartclient? The idea of the CAB is very good but it will be that it would be good for adopting? []s Pedro, Brazil. * Sorry my bad english. :) ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
Pedro Alves wrote: Hi Guys, The Mono will give support to CAB model (http://www.codeplex.com/websf and http://www.codeplex.com/smartclient? The idea of the CAB is very good but it will be that it would be good for adopting? As mentioned in section 10 of the license: http://www.codeplex.com/websf/Project/License.aspx the code can't be used on Linux. Robert ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
:( The old problem of the licenses… []s 2007/1/3, Robert Jordan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Pedro Alves wrote: Hi Guys, The Mono will give support to CAB model (http://www.codeplex.com/websfand http://www.codeplex.com/smartclient? The idea of the CAB is very good but it will be that it would be good for adopting? As mentioned in section 10 of the license: http://www.codeplex.com/websf/Project/License.aspx the code can't be used on Linux. Robert ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
Hello, :( The old problem of the licenses… I once spoke with Scott about this issue (it was related to the license chosen for the starter kits) and he said that it was probably an oversight and that they would not mind changing the license. You could try contacting them and asking them to use the other SharedSousrce license that does not include the Only on Windows clause. Miguel ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
Hi Pedro, Both projects are covered by the Microsoft EULA, iirc. If so, it's not allowed to use them on non-windows operating systems. Pedro Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Guys, The Mono will give support to CAB model (http://www.codeplex.com/websf and http://www.codeplex.com/smartclient? The idea of the CAB is very good but it will be that it would be good for adopting? []s Pedro, Brazil. * Sorry my bad english. :) -- ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
Please send your answer here, others might be interested in the outcome too Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, :( The old problem of the licenses I once spoke with Scott about this issue (it was related to the license chosen for the starter kits) and he said that it was probably an oversight and that they would not mind changing the license. You could try contacting them and asking them to use the other SharedSousrce license that does not include the Only on Windows clause. Miguel ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
Scott Guthrie? I'll put in my word for changing the license to SharedSource but in my experience Microsoft has never been very good at listening to their forums / users :) Do you think that with Novell's recent deal with Microsoft that there could be some extra leverage to get this to happen? We've been spending lots of time on the CAB and I don't know how I built apps without some kind of plugin/composite framework before. The other option is to have the MonoDevelop add-in architecture be a seperate enough that people can build plugin architectures with it rather than something like CAB. The nice thing about CAB is ObjectBuilder and it's dependency injection On 1/3/07, Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, :( The old problem of the licenses… I once spoke with Scott about this issue (it was related to the license chosen for the starter kits) and he said that it was probably an oversight and that they would not mind changing the license. You could try contacting them and asking them to use the other SharedSousrce license that does not include the Only on Windows clause. Miguel ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Composit UI Application Block and Mono
The CAB is really very good. Now they are creating the CAB for ASP.NET that will be extremely useful. The Novell could try to change this license for us. ;) hehehhe []s 2007/1/3, Corbin Hoenes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Scott Guthrie? I'll put in my word for changing the license to SharedSource but in my experience Microsoft has never been very good at listening to their forums / users :) Do you think that with Novell's recent deal with Microsoft that there could be some extra leverage to get this to happen? We've been spending lots of time on the CAB and I don't know how I built apps without some kind of plugin/composite framework before. The other option is to have the MonoDevelop add-in architecture be a seperate enough that people can build plugin architectures with it rather than something like CAB. The nice thing about CAB is ObjectBuilder and it's dependency injection On 1/3/07, Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, :( The old problem of the licenses… I once spoke with Scott about this issue (it was related to the license chosen for the starter kits) and he said that it was probably an oversight and that they would not mind changing the license. You could try contacting them and asking them to use the other SharedSousrce license that does not include the Only on Windows clause. Miguel ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
