Re: [good] Re: [Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-11 Thread ted leslie
My thinking and choice to use Mono is just the opposite of (below), I 
use it for web servers
(not deployed), running on my own servers (hosting customers web sites),
as if in years to come there is a licensing issue, it effects only a few 
of my "web servers",
if i was making a app. that could have a wide commercial audience, then 
i'd be a bit more worried,
so I believe Mono is a very safe choice for web services based on a 
worst case licensing scenerio,
and if that issue ever came to pass, hopefully I could jump to a 
different class stack for those services.

-tl
Melinda wrote:
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 08:23, Rodrigo B. de Oliveira wrote:
 

The question was not about how good the asp.net support on mono is right
now. The question, a valid one, was what's the recommended approach to
write web applications since asp.net is not covered by the ECMA spec, in
other words, what's the equivalent piece of technology in the mono
stack?
I guess the answer is that right now we don't have one.
   

That is what I mean. That is what keep me away from Mono. Mono is good
to write desktop applications with GTK# but for web services :(
 

all the best,
Rodrigo
Em Qui, 2004-06-10 às 21:54, Cory Nelson escreveu:
   

ASP.NET is mainly just a collection of classes.
The hack they call PHP doesn't even compare to it haha.  Mono's
ASP.NET support is actually very good.
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:39:35 +0700, Melinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

Ok, in FAQ page of go-mono website, there are statements like this:
The controversial elements are the ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows.Forms
subsets. Those are convenient for people who need full compatibility
with the Windows platform, but are not required for the open source Mono
platform, nor integration with today's Mono's rich support of Linux.

Ok, it said ASP.NET is just for people who need full compatibility for
Winblows platform, but not required for the open source Mono.
So what is the alternative for ASP.NET in open source platform? Maybe
PHP.NET? :)
   

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Re: [Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-10 Thread Melinda
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 08:23, Rodrigo B. de Oliveira wrote:
> The question was not about how good the asp.net support on mono is right
> now. The question, a valid one, was what's the recommended approach to
> write web applications since asp.net is not covered by the ECMA spec, in
> other words, what's the equivalent piece of technology in the mono
> stack?
> 
> I guess the answer is that right now we don't have one.
That is what I mean. That is what keep me away from Mono. Mono is good
to write desktop applications with GTK# but for web services :(

> 
> all the best,
> Rodrigo
> 
> Em Qui, 2004-06-10 às 21:54, Cory Nelson escreveu:
> > ASP.NET is mainly just a collection of classes.
> > 
> > The hack they call PHP doesn't even compare to it haha.  Mono's
> > ASP.NET support is actually very good.
> > 
> > On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:39:35 +0700, Melinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Ok, in FAQ page of go-mono website, there are statements like this:
> > > The controversial elements are the ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows.Forms
> > > subsets. Those are convenient for people who need full compatibility
> > > with the Windows platform, but are not required for the open source Mono
> > > platform, nor integration with today's Mono's rich support of Linux.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ok, it said ASP.NET is just for people who need full compatibility for
> > > Winblows platform, but not required for the open source Mono.
> > > 
> > > So what is the alternative for ASP.NET in open source platform? Maybe
> > > PHP.NET? :)
> > > 
> 
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Re: [Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-10 Thread John Luke
On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 22:23 -0300, Rodrigo B. de Oliveira wrote:
> The question was not about how good the asp.net support on mono is right
> now. The question, a valid one, was what's the recommended approach to
> write web applications since asp.net is not covered by the ECMA spec, in
> other words, what's the equivalent piece of technology in the mono
> stack?
> 
> I guess the answer is that right now we don't have one.
> 

There are some ports of some Java stuff already and some in progress.
For example spring.net, but I am not really sure if those are the
equivalent of ASP.NET, etc.

http://www.springframework.net/

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Re: [Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-10 Thread Rodrigo B. de Oliveira
The question was not about how good the asp.net support on mono is right
now. The question, a valid one, was what's the recommended approach to
write web applications since asp.net is not covered by the ECMA spec, in
other words, what's the equivalent piece of technology in the mono
stack?

I guess the answer is that right now we don't have one.

all the best,
Rodrigo

Em Qui, 2004-06-10 às 21:54, Cory Nelson escreveu:
> ASP.NET is mainly just a collection of classes.
> 
> The hack they call PHP doesn't even compare to it haha.  Mono's
> ASP.NET support is actually very good.
> 
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:39:35 +0700, Melinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, in FAQ page of go-mono website, there are statements like this:
> > The controversial elements are the ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows.Forms
> > subsets. Those are convenient for people who need full compatibility
> > with the Windows platform, but are not required for the open source Mono
> > platform, nor integration with today's Mono's rich support of Linux.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ok, it said ASP.NET is just for people who need full compatibility for
> > Winblows platform, but not required for the open source Mono.
> > 
> > So what is the alternative for ASP.NET in open source platform? Maybe
> > PHP.NET? :)
> > 

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Re: [Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-10 Thread Cory Nelson
ASP.NET is mainly just a collection of classes.

The hack they call PHP doesn't even compare to it haha.  Mono's
ASP.NET support is actually very good.

On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:39:35 +0700, Melinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Ok, in FAQ page of go-mono website, there are statements like this:
> The controversial elements are the ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows.Forms
> subsets. Those are convenient for people who need full compatibility
> with the Windows platform, but are not required for the open source Mono
> platform, nor integration with today's Mono's rich support of Linux.
> 
> I understand if Windows.Forms is controversial because to implement it,
> you have to use emulation so why bother. Just use something like Gtk#.
> 
> What about Web services? ASP.NET is controversial according to the FAQ
> page. And it said:  are not required for the open source Mono
> platform, nor 
> 
> Ok, it said ASP.NET is just for people who need full compatibility for
> Winblows platform, but not required for the open source Mono.
> 
> So what is the alternative for ASP.NET in open source platform? Maybe
> PHP.NET? :)
> 
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[Mono-list] Is ASP.NET safe?

2004-06-10 Thread Melinda
Ok, in FAQ page of go-mono website, there are statements like this:
The controversial elements are the ASP.NET, ADO.NET and Windows.Forms
subsets. Those are convenient for people who need full compatibility
with the Windows platform, but are not required for the open source Mono
platform, nor integration with today's Mono's rich support of Linux.

I understand if Windows.Forms is controversial because to implement it,
you have to use emulation so why bother. Just use something like Gtk#. 

What about Web services? ASP.NET is controversial according to the FAQ
page. And it said:  are not required for the open source Mono
platform, nor  

Ok, it said ASP.NET is just for people who need full compatibility for
Winblows platform, but not required for the open source Mono. 

So what is the alternative for ASP.NET in open source platform? Maybe
PHP.NET? :)


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