Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
imcs reminds me of some instant messaging blah, and I don't like the csi either for obvious reasons. I think following the tradition and adding the `sh` suffix is a really good idea because the thing by its nature targets unix-savvy people and not the Visual Studio community. And unix-savvy people know very well what a shell is good for. So yeah, I vote for Juan's second idea: csish. It has 701 hits on Google, I'm pretty sure a wiki page on go-mono.com will be #1 soon. On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:39 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. -- Enver ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
Hi all. What about... * mish: for Google is short for missionary, man on top, face to face. Heheh. 2008/9/22 Enver ALTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: imcs reminds me of some instant messaging blah, and I don't like the csi either for obvious reasons. I think following the tradition and adding the `sh` suffix is a really good idea because the thing by its nature targets unix-savvy people and not the Visual Studio community. And unix-savvy people know very well what a shell is good for. So yeah, I vote for Juan's second idea: csish. It has 701 hits on Google, I'm pretty sure a wiki page on go-mono.com will be #1 soon. On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:39 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. -- Enver ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list -- David kraptor Anes Alcolea http://www.kraptor.com ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
A pun? seashell -Abe On Sep 22, 2008, at 7:13 AM, David Anes wrote: Hi all. What about... * mish: for Google is short for missionary, man on top, face to face. Heheh. 2008/9/22 Enver ALTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: imcs reminds me of some instant messaging blah, and I don't like the csi either for obvious reasons. I think following the tradition and adding the `sh` suffix is a really good idea because the thing by its nature targets unix-savvy people and not the Visual Studio community. And unix-savvy people know very well what a shell is good for. So yeah, I vote for Juan's second idea: csish. It has 701 hits on Google, I'm pretty sure a wiki page on go-mono.com will be #1 soon. On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:39 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. -- Enver ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list -- David kraptor Anes Alcolea http://www.kraptor.com ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
Hey Miguel, On 9/21/08, Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: I like `ics', just like ruby has irb. -- Jb Evain [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
mcsi ? Very similar to mcs, gmcs. Easy to type. Fairly google-able. Miguel de Icaza wrote: Hey folks, The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. Miguel. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
If the highest target is making it googlable: - mcsish - cscish Miguel de Icaza wrote: Hey folks, The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
Just for the record, we shouldn't be deciding the name of a product based on its Googlability. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader as to why that's a ridiculous metric. -Abe On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Enver ALTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: imcs reminds me of some instant messaging blah, and I don't like the csi either for obvious reasons. I think following the tradition and adding the `sh` suffix is a really good idea because the thing by its nature targets unix-savvy people and not the Visual Studio community. And unix-savvy people know very well what a shell is good for. So yeah, I vote for Juan's second idea: csish. It has 701 hits on Google, I'm pretty sure a wiki page on go-mono.com will be #1 soon. On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:39 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. -- Enver ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
I had also suggested (and still like) mish. It doesn't evoke the fact that it's a c# shell but it's a good short name and makes sense: Mono Interactive SHell. David Anes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/22/08 6:37 AM Hi all. What about... * mish: for Google is short for missionary, man on top, face to face. Heheh. 2008/9/22 Enver ALTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: imcs reminds me of some instant messaging blah, and I don't like the csi either for obvious reasons. I think following the tradition and adding the `sh` suffix is a really good idea because the thing by its nature targets unix-savvy people and not the Visual Studio community. And unix-savvy people know very well what a shell is good for. So yeah, I vote for Juan's second idea: csish. It has 701 hits on Google, I'm pretty sure a wiki page on go-mono.com will be #1 soon. On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:39 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. -- Enver ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list -- David kraptor Anes Alcolea http://www.kraptor.com ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
Sorry if there is an obvious reason why you can't do this, but why can't it just be called mono? So if it's called with no arguments it'll run in an interactive mode... If the code for the shell is in a seperate project, then you could either merge it, or dynamically link into it... On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Andrew Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I had also suggested (and still like) mish. It doesn't evoke the fact that it's a c# shell but it's a good short name and makes sense: Mono Interactive SHell. David Anes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/22/08 6:37 AM Hi all. What about... * mish: for Google is short for missionary, man on top, face to face. Heheh. 2008/9/22 Enver ALTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]: imcs reminds me of some instant messaging blah, and I don't like the csi either for obvious reasons. I think following the tradition and adding the `sh` suffix is a really good idea because the thing by its nature targets unix-savvy people and not the Visual Studio community. And unix-savvy people know very well what a shell is good for. So yeah, I vote for Juan's second idea: csish. It has 701 hits on Google, I'm pretty sure a wiki page on go-mono.com will be #1 soon. On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:39 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. -- Enver ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list -- David kraptor Anes Alcolea http://www.kraptor.com ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list -- Mitchel Constantin Weavver. Your voice, just better. Business Development: +1-714-726-8071 XMPP: mitchel.at.weavver.com ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
I think we try to find a googlable name because it means it has an unique name... whichever the search engine or the repository of data... we just try to look for a distinctive name. Anyway, people will find it as c# shell or mono shell, I hope :) Regards JuanCri On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Abe Gillespie [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Just for the record, we shouldn't be deciding the name of a product based on its Googlability. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader as to why that's a ridiculous metric. -Abe On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Enver ALTIN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: imcs reminds me of some instant messaging blah, and I don't like the csi either for obvious reasons. I think following the tradition and adding the `sh` suffix is a really good idea because the thing by its nature targets unix-savvy people and not the Visual Studio community. And unix-savvy people know very well what a shell is good for. So yeah, I vote for Juan's second idea: csish. It has 701 hits on Google, I'm pretty sure a wiki page on go-mono.com will be #1 soon. On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:39 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. -- Enver ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Andrew Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had also suggested (and still like) mish. It doesn't evoke the fact that it's a c# shell but it's a good short name and makes sense: Mono Interactive SHell. But Mono covers far more than C#. How about mono-csharp-shell? Pretty descriptive at least. :) Symlinked or aliased as mcsh? -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
What about CShSh? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2008, at 5:39 PM, Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks, The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. Miguel. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
css is ungoogable because it already has a huge overlap with the C# (because of ASP.NET, etc). We could choose another popular name (like csi) as long as existing results are unlikely to intersect with desired results. Consider the following searches: css iterate csi iterate --Joseph On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 22:59 +0100, Alan McGovern wrote: Major con: it is ungoogable, since everyone talks about the Cascading Style Sheets ;-) 56 million hits to CSI might change your mind about choosing that then ;) Alan. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
[Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
Hey folks, The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. Miguel. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
I vote for csi... (¿codename Las Vegas?). csish (CSharp Inerative Shell) is nice (similar to booish) but complicated :) Regards, JuanCri On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks, The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. Miguel. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
What about css? C Sharp Shell. Pros: *Really* easy to type Cons: It's not a style sheet. Though i think the 'con' on imcs could easily be applied to any name you choose. imcs would be my next choice. Alan. On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Juan C. Olivares [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I vote for csi... (¿codename Las Vegas?). csish (CSharp Inerative Shell) is nice (similar to booish) but complicated :) Regards, JuanCri On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hey folks, The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. Miguel. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type Not for those of us who saw the light and switched to Dvorak. :) Kidding. Sort of. -- Chris Howie http://www.chrishowie.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Crazycomputers ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:39 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: Hey folks, The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. I really like the name csi :) * imcs - interactive Mono C# compiler Pros: similar to `gmcs' and `mcs' Cons: hard to figure out it exists. eh :\ Jeff ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
Hello, What about css? C Sharp Shell. Pros: Really easy to type Cons: It's not a style sheet. Though i think the 'con' on imcs could easily be applied to any name you choose. imcs would be my next choice. Major con: it is ungoogable, since everyone talks about the Cascading Style Sheets ;-) ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
Major con: it is ungoogable, since everyone talks about the Cascading Style Sheets ;-) 56 million hits http://www.google.ie/search?hl=enq=csibtnG=Searchmeta=to CSI might change your mind about choosing that then ;) Alan. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey folks, The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. Not sure if it matters, but at least on Ubuntu, the 'csi' binary name is already used by a program called 'chicken' (Simple Scheme-to-C compiler) -- _ (\o/) Chad 'v3rt1g0' Kittel [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_\ Beaver Dam, WI (USA) [4 8 15 16 23 42] This is who we are. // Lunar Linux developer // عزرایل ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
Miguel de Icaza wrote: What about css? C Sharp Shell. Pros: Really easy to type Cons: It's not a style sheet. Though i think the 'con' on imcs could easily be applied to any name you choose. imcs would be my next choice. Major con: it is ungoogable, since everyone talks about the Cascading Style Sheets ;-) MPS. Mono PowerShell. ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
Re: [Mono-list] Name of the CSharp Shell
On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 17:39 -0400, Miguel de Icaza wrote: The name of the C# shell today is `csharp', but this is awkward to type, we have been considering renaming it, the options are: * csi - stands for C# interactive Pros: short, cute, easy to remember. Cons: popular TV show. Once upon a time (I forget where) you had suggested adding a csc script which would always refer to the most recent version of the language (as making `mcs` use the .NET 2.0 profile broke too much code). So the interactive shell should be csci. :-) Which has the added benefit that there are only 834,000 matches on Google, unlike csi... - Jon ___ Mono-list maillist - Mono-list@lists.ximian.com http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
