[Mono-list] mcs and mono package

2004-06-08 Thread Melinda
In this page:
http://www.go-mono.org/download.html
.
The Virtual Execution System is available in package `mono'. Please
refer to our Runtime description for more details on this part of the
project. 

Optional packages are `libgdiplus' (if you want to do graphics),
`winelib' (if you want to run the alpha winforms support). The package
`mcs' contains the C# source code to the compilers and class libraries.
.

Ok what is difference between mono and mcs? I am confuse Before
I read that page carefully, I thought mono is same with jre and mcs is
same with javasdk. But after reading the page, here is my thought. The
mono is the runtime and compiler and the class. But mcs is the source
code of the mono. So which one is true. ... Can you explain it to me,
guyz



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RE: [Mono-list] mcs and mono package

2004-06-08 Thread jonathan.cooper
Melinda,

mono is the runtime (class libraries etc)
mcs is the c# compiler
Mbas is the vb.net compiler
mint is the interpreter 

Hope this makes things a little clearer.

Regards,
Jon

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In this page:
http://www.go-mono.org/download.html
.
The Virtual Execution System is available in package `mono'. Please refer to
our Runtime description for more details on this part of the project. 

Optional packages are `libgdiplus' (if you want to do graphics), `winelib'
(if you want to run the alpha winforms support). The package `mcs' contains
the C# source code to the compilers and class libraries.
.

Ok what is difference between mono and mcs? I am confuse Before I
read that page carefully, I thought mono is same with jre and mcs is same
with javasdk. But after reading the page, here is my thought. The mono is the
runtime and compiler and the class. But mcs is the source code of the mono.
So which one is true. ... Can you explain it to me, guyz



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Re: [Mono-list] mcs and mono package

2004-06-08 Thread Giuseppe Greco
The split between mono and mcs is historical...
The mono package contains the execution environment
source code, plus the pre-compiled class library.
To get mono running, you just need this package.

The mcs package contains the class library source
code, and you need it only if you want to compile
the class library by yourself.

j3d.

, in reality the
.NET Framework has deeper dependencies than those that meet the eye.
They should be in fact be considered as one package.

 In this page:
 http://www.go-mono.org/download.html
 .
 The Virtual Execution System is available in package `mono'. Please
 refer to our Runtime description for more details on this part of the
 project.

 Optional packages are `libgdiplus' (if you want to do graphics),
 `winelib' (if you want to run the alpha winforms support). The package
 `mcs' contains the C# source code to the compilers and class libraries.
 .

 Ok what is difference between mono and mcs? I am confuse Before
 I read that page carefully, I thought mono is same with jre and mcs is
 same with javasdk. But after reading the page, here is my thought. The
 mono is the runtime and compiler and the class. But mcs is the source
 code of the mono. So which one is true. ... Can you explain it to me,
 guyz



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RE: [Mono-list] mcs and mono package

2004-06-08 Thread Melinda
On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 18:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Melinda,
 
 mono is the runtime (class libraries etc)
 mcs is the c# compiler
 Mbas is the vb.net compiler
 mint is the interpreter 
 
 Hope this makes things a little clearer.
I m sorry but that's not what I mean. I mean... 
what is difference between mono and mcs as package?
I remember. I don't need mcs-xxx.tar.bz2 package to use this
command:
$ mcs whatever.cs
Compilation successful

So I confuse, why would someone want to install mcs-xxx.tar.bz2 if you
got mcs compiler in mono-xxx.tar.bz2 package? I can compile c sharp file
without installing mcs-xxx.tar.bz2 package.

Thank you.

 
 Regards,
 Jon
 
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 Subject: [Mono-list] mcs and mono package
 
 In this page:
 http://www.go-mono.org/download.html
 .
 The Virtual Execution System is available in package `mono'. Please refer to
 our Runtime description for more details on this part of the project. 
 
 Optional packages are `libgdiplus' (if you want to do graphics), `winelib'
 (if you want to run the alpha winforms support). The package `mcs' contains
 the C# source code to the compilers and class libraries.
 .
 
 Ok what is difference between mono and mcs? I am confuse Before I
 read that page carefully, I thought mono is same with jre and mcs is same
 with javasdk. But after reading the page, here is my thought. The mono is the
 runtime and compiler and the class. But mcs is the source code of the mono.
 So which one is true. ... Can you explain it to me, guyz
 
 
 
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Re: [Mono-list] mcs and mono package

2004-06-08 Thread Melinda
On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 18:30, Giuseppe Greco wrote:
 The split between mono and mcs is historical...
 The mono package contains the execution environment
 source code, plus the pre-compiled class library.
Is it safe to tell people that: mono-xxx.tar.bz2 has compiler for C#
inside? I am writing article about mono but I m still confuse. Do we
need mcs in order to install C# compiler for your computer? The link for
downloading mcs-xxx.tar.gz is: 
Mono Class Libraries and C# Compiler 0.95

You see C# compiler C# compiler...
But with mono and without mcs, you have C# compiler already. YOu could
do something like this: mcs blabla.cs without installing mcs package. I
am confuse. What is mcs? Where  is C# compiler truly? In mono or mcs
package?

 To get mono running, you just need this package.
 
 The mcs package contains the class library source
 code, and you need it only if you want to compile
 the class library by yourself.
Why would someone want to do this?

Thank you, guyz I just hope I can clarify this in my article so my
readers are not confuse just like me.
 
 j3d.
 
 , in reality the
 .NET Framework has deeper dependencies than those that meet the eye.
 They should be in fact be considered as one package.
 



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Re: [Mono-list] mcs and mono package

2004-06-08 Thread KiOrKY
this is my way fir mono
compile mono-cvs-snapshot and do make install
compile mcs and do make install
 and re do make install  in mono-cvs-snapshot
for me, both are installed, and thats no problem ;)
(checkinstall -D is very nice)

if you have packages what about do this (install mono then mcs then re mono)  (even 
with force option)

regards

Melinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 18:30, Giuseppe Greco wrote:
 gt; The split between mono and mcs is historical...
 gt; The mono package contains the execution environment
 gt; source code, plus the pre-compiled class library.
 Is it safe to tell people that: mono-xxx.tar.bz2 has compiler for C#
 inside? I am writing article about mono but I m still confuse. Do we
 need mcs in order to install C# compiler for your computer? The link for
 downloading mcs-xxx.tar.gz is: 
 Mono Class Libraries and C# Compiler 0.95
 
 You see C# compiler C# compiler...
 But with mono and without mcs, you have C# compiler already. YOu could
 do something like this: mcs blabla.cs without installing mcs package. I
 am confuse. What is mcs? Where  is C# compiler truly? In mono or mcs
 package?
 
 gt; To get mono running, you just need this package.
 gt; 
 gt; The mcs package contains the class library source
 gt; code, and you need it only if you want to compile
 gt; the class library by yourself.
 Why would someone want to do this?
 
 Thank you, guyz I just hope I can clarify this in my article so my
 readers are not confuse just like me.
 gt; 
 gt; j3d.
 gt; 
 gt; , in reality the
 gt; .NET Framework has deeper dependencies than those that meet the eye.
 gt; They should be in fact be considered as one package.
 gt; 
 
 
 
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Re: [Mono-list] mcs and mono package

2004-06-08 Thread Fred Blaise
wow... I open my mailbox... and

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Quoting KiOrKY [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 this is my way fir mono
 compile mono-cvs-snapshot and do make install
 compile mcs and do make install
  and re do make install  in mono-cvs-snapshot
 for me, both are installed, and thats no problem ;)
 (checkinstall -D is very nice)

 if you have packages what about do this (install mono then mcs then re mono)
 (even with force option)

 regards

 Melinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

  On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 18:30, Giuseppe Greco wrote:
  gt; The split between mono and mcs is historical...
  gt; The mono package contains the execution environment
  gt; source code, plus the pre-compiled class library.
  Is it safe to tell people that: mono-xxx.tar.bz2 has compiler for C#
  inside? I am writing article about mono but I m still confuse. Do we
  need mcs in order to install C# compiler for your computer? The link for
  downloading mcs-xxx.tar.gz is:
  Mono Class Libraries and C# Compiler 0.95
 
  You see C# compiler C# compiler...
  But with mono and without mcs, you have C# compiler already. YOu could
  do something like this: mcs blabla.cs without installing mcs package. I
  am confuse. What is mcs? Where  is C# compiler truly? In mono or mcs
  package?
 
  gt; To get mono running, you just need this package.
  gt;
  gt; The mcs package contains the class library source
  gt; code, and you need it only if you want to compile
  gt; the class library by yourself.
  Why would someone want to do this?
 
  Thank you, guyz I just hope I can clarify this in my article so my
  readers are not confuse just like me.
  gt;
  gt; j3d.
  gt;
  gt; , in reality the
  gt; .NET Framework has deeper dependencies than those that meet the eye.
  gt; They should be in fact be considered as one package.
  gt;
 
 
 
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RE: [Mono-list] mcs and mono package

2004-06-08 Thread Miguel de Icaza
Hello,

  mono is the runtime (class libraries etc)
  mcs is the c# compiler
  Mbas is the vb.net compiler
  mint is the interpreter 
  
  Hope this makes things a little clearer.
 I m sorry but that's not what I mean. I mean... 
 what is difference between mono and mcs as package?
 I remember. I don't need mcs-xxx.tar.bz2 package to use this
 command:
 $ mcs whatever.cs
 Compilation successful
 
 So I confuse, why would someone want to install mcs-xxx.tar.bz2 if you
 got mcs compiler in mono-xxx.tar.bz2 package? I can compile c sharp file
 without installing mcs-xxx.tar.bz2 package.

As someone pointed out before, it is a historical difference.  The C
code lives in `mono', the C# code lived in `mcs'.

Mono ships with everything you need to start working;  You only need
the mcs-XXX.tar.gz if you want to recompile from source code the class
libraries.
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Re: [Mono-list] mcs and mono package

2004-06-08 Thread Raja R Harinath
Hi,

Melinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 18:30, Giuseppe Greco wrote:
 The split between mono and mcs is historical...
 The mono package contains the execution environment
 source code, plus the pre-compiled class library.
 Is it safe to tell people that: mono-xxx.tar.bz2 has compiler for C#
 inside? I am writing article about mono but I m still confuse. Do we
 need mcs in order to install C# compiler for your computer? The link for
 downloading mcs-xxx.tar.gz is: 
 Mono Class Libraries and C# Compiler 0.95

 You see C# compiler C# compiler...
 But with mono and without mcs, you have C# compiler already. YOu could
 do something like this: mcs blabla.cs without installing mcs package. I
 am confuse. What is mcs? Where  is C# compiler truly? In mono or mcs
 package?

 To get mono running, you just need this package.
 
 The mcs package contains the class library source
 code, and you need it only if you want to compile
 the class library by yourself.

 Why would someone want to do this?

'mono' and 'mcs' are open source.  So, we provide the source code.

The source code for the C# compiler, VB compiler, and the mono libraries
is found in the 'mcs-*.tar.gz' file.  The source code for the mono
runtime is found in the 'mono-*.tar.gz' file.

To make things convenient for you, we also distribute pre-built versions
of the C# compiler, VB compiler and the mono libraries in
'mono-*.tar.gz'.  So, basically, once you compile and 'make install' in
the 'mono-*' directory, you have a fairly complete mono working
environment.

If you want to inspect the source code, improve and/or re-build the
compilers and the mono libraries, you will have to get 'mcs-*.tar.gz'.

HTH
- Hari
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Re: [Mono-list] Mcs vs Mono package

2004-02-23 Thread Miguel de Icaza
 I would like to know why there is a mono package and a mcs package if
 they create equal files:

It is a historical difference.

C-source code lives in `mono', C#-source code lives in `mcs'.

To simplify the lives of those who do not have an existing working
environment the compiled and portable binaries from the module `mcs' are
shipped in pre-compiled form in the `mono' module.

Someone compiling and installing mono only needs the `mono-XXX.tar.gz'
package.  The `mcs-XXX' package is only needed if you need to rebuild
yourself any of the C#-based code.
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[Mono-list] Mcs vs Mono package

2004-02-05 Thread Nuno Afonso
Hi,

I would like to know why there is a mono package and a mcs package if
they create equal files:

snip
usr/bin/al.exe
usr/bin/chktrust.exe
usr/bin/cilc.exe
usr/bin/disco.exe
usr/bin/genxs.exe
usr/bin/ilasm.exe
usr/bin/mbas.exe
usr/bin/mcs.exe
usr/bin/monoresgen.exe
usr/bin/secutil.exe
usr/bin/signcode.exe
usr/bin/soapsuds.exe
usr/bin/sqlsharp.exe
usr/bin/wsdl.exe
usr/bin/xsd.exe
usr/lib/Accessibility.dll
usr/lib/ByteFX.Data.dll
usr/lib/Commons.Xml.Relaxng.dll
usr/lib/Cscompmgd.dll
usr/lib/I18N.CJK.dll
usr/lib/I18N.MidEast.dll
usr/lib/I18N.Other.dll
usr/lib/I18N.Rare.dll
usr/lib/I18N.West.dll
usr/lib/I18N.dll
usr/lib/ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib.dll
usr/lib/Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll
usr/lib/Microsoft.VisualC.dll
usr/lib/Microsoft.Vsa.dll
usr/lib/Mono.CSharp.Debugger.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Cairo.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Data.DB2Client.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Data.MySql.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Data.PostgreSqlClient.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Data.SqliteClient.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Data.SybaseClient.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Data.Tds.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Data.TdsClient.dll
usr/lib/Mono.GetOptions.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Http.dll
usr/lib/Mono.PEToolkit.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Posix.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Security.Win32.dll
usr/lib/Mono.Security.dll
usr/lib/NUnit.Framework.dll
usr/lib/NUnit.Util.dll
usr/lib/Novell.Directory.Ldap.dll
usr/lib/Npgsql.dll
usr/lib/PEAPI.dll
usr/lib/System.Configuration.Install.dll
usr/lib/System.Data.OracleClient.dll
usr/lib/System.Data.dll
usr/lib/System.Design.dll
usr/lib/System.DirectoryServices.dll
usr/lib/System.Drawing.Design.dll
usr/lib/System.Drawing.dll
usr/lib/System.EnterpriseServices.dll
usr/lib/System.Management.dll
usr/lib/System.Messaging.dll
usr/lib/System.Runtime.Remoting.dll
usr/lib/System.Runtime.Serialization.Formatters.Soap.dll
usr/lib/System.Security.dll
usr/lib/System.ServiceProcess.dll
usr/lib/System.Web.Services.dll
usr/lib/System.Web.dll
usr/lib/System.Windows.Forms.dll
usr/lib/System.Xml.dll
usr/lib/System.dll
usr/lib/mscorlib.dll
/snip

these files are created (and installed) with both mcs-0.30.tar.gz and
mono-0.30.tar.gz.

Nuno Afonso
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