Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Antonello Provenzano]

Although it is not free, Omnicore's X-Develop is a good platform for
either Mono or .NET.


On 1/26/07, Madars Vitolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> I have trivial question,
> What IDE you use to develop Mono and (including asp.net) applications?
> Is it MS VS? Or MonoDevelop?
> I have a feeling that Visual Studio 2005 is very slow platform (from point
> of performance)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Madars.
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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Joe Riopel]

> I have trivial question,
> What IDE you use to develop Mono and (including asp.net) applications?
> Is it MS VS? Or MonoDevelop?

I tend to use MS VS the most for .NET development, only because that
is what I am "used" to.  When writing something at home or outside of
work, and always make sure it builds using mono though, on my Linux
box.

> I have a feeling that Visual Studio 2005 is very slow platform (from point
> of performance)

I haven't been able to get MonoDevelop working on my desktop at home
yet, so I can't say which IDE I think is faster. However,  I do think
VS 2005 performs much better than VS2003.

I do plan on getting Monodevelop up and running on my desktop though,
but it doesn't have gnome installed. Gnome didn't ship with my distro
( Slackware 10.2 ), and I have had less than perfect experiences with
using the Drop-line installer.
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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[laas]

On 1/26/07, Madars Vitolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi folks

I have trivial question,
What IDE you use to develop Mono and (including asp.net) applications?
Is it MS VS? Or MonoDevelop?
I have a feeling that Visual Studio 2005 is very slow platform (from point
of performance)



Hi Madars,
for all my projects developed to run under mono I've used Monodevelop+Glade;
for my actual main job I'm using Visual Studio 2005 Express just because
I've to develop a solution that will be run on Win2003 server, SQL Server
and IIS.

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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[ted leslie]

if your a power user, and into vi or emacs
slickedit is the cats ass of IDE's but it doesn't have any graphical 
form creation abilites for WF or ASP/html stuff.

-tl

On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 15:21 +0100, laas wrote:
> 
> On 1/26/07, Madars Vitolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks
> 
> I have trivial question,
> What IDE you use to develop Mono and (including asp.net)
> applications?
> Is it MS VS? Or MonoDevelop? 
> I have a feeling that Visual Studio 2005 is very slow platform
> (from point of performance)
> 
> Hi Madars,
> for all my projects developed to run under mono I've used Monodevelop
> +Glade; for my actual main job I'm using Visual Studio 2005 Express
> just because I've to develop a solution that will be run on Win2003
> server, SQL Server and IIS.
> 
> Regards
> -- 
> [LAAS]
> aka Salvatore
> WebSite: http://laas.altervista.org
> YTSite: http://laas.altervista.org/youtranslate/ytindex.php 
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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Pedro Alves]

It also considers the SharpDevelop (
http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx). Open Source, run on
Windows and very good!




2007/1/26, Antonello Provenzano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Although it is not free, Omnicore's X-Develop is a good platform for
either Mono or .NET.


On 1/26/07, Madars Vitolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks
>
> I have trivial question,
> What IDE you use to develop Mono and (including asp.net) applications?
> Is it MS VS? Or MonoDevelop?
> I have a feeling that Visual Studio 2005 is very slow platform (from
point
> of performance)
>
>
> Thanks,
> Madars.
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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Matt Raffel]

I'm really impressed with SharpDevelop.  The "intellisense" in 
SharpDevelop works, its fast and it doesn't lag the heck outta my 
machine (unlike VS' implementation).   At home, VS is totally 
uninstalled and off my windows box.   I do not use it at all any more.   
My only complaint about SharpDevelop is the debugging.  Debugger is a 
little lacking but I know that will be get better in time.For now, I 
use the visual debugger that comes with the .NET sdk.

Matt

Pedro Alves wrote:
> It also considers the SharpDevelop 
> (http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx). Open Source, 
> run on Windows and very good!
>  
>
>
>  
> 2007/1/26, Antonello Provenzano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >:
>
> Although it is not free, Omnicore's X-Develop is a good platform for
> either Mono or .NET.
>
>
> On 1/26/07, Madars Vitolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> > Hi folks
> >
> > I have trivial question,
> > What IDE you use to develop Mono and (including asp.net
> ) applications?
> > Is it MS VS? Or MonoDevelop?
> > I have a feeling that Visual Studio 2005 is very slow platform
> (from point
> > of performance)
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Madars.
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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Austin Winstanley]

Mono-Develop is ok but kind of a pain to work with, in my experience.
VS 2005 is good but automatically inserts a bunch of code that doesnt
get along well with mono, so that stuff just has to be deleted.
SharpDevelop has been the best option for me so far. I have few
problems with it and it does everything I need it to.



On 1/26/07, Matt Raffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm really impressed with SharpDevelop.  The "intellisense" in
> SharpDevelop works, its fast and it doesn't lag the heck outta my
> machine (unlike VS' implementation).   At home, VS is totally
> uninstalled and off my windows box.   I do not use it at all any more.
> My only complaint about SharpDevelop is the debugging.  Debugger is a
> little lacking but I know that will be get better in time.For now, I
> use the visual debugger that comes with the .NET sdk.
>
> Matt
>
> Pedro Alves wrote:
> > It also considers the SharpDevelop
> > (http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Default.aspx). Open Source,
> > run on Windows and very good!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2007/1/26, Antonello Provenzano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >:
> >
> > Although it is not free, Omnicore's X-Develop is a good platform for
> > either Mono or .NET.
> >
> >
> > On 1/26/07, Madars Vitolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi folks
> > >
> > > I have trivial question,
> > > What IDE you use to develop Mono and (including asp.net
> > ) applications?
> > > Is it MS VS? Or MonoDevelop?
> > > I have a feeling that Visual Studio 2005 is very slow platform
> > (from point
> > > of performance)
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Madars.
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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Adam Tauno Williams]

> Mono-Develop is ok 

I find Monodevelop to be pretty good.

> but kind of a pain to work with, in my experience.

It can be;  occasionally code completion stops working in the editor and
when you build your project it frequently doesn't catch the messages so
you have to look at the Build Output tab rather than the errors/warnings
tab and navigate to the errors yourself.  Those are the two things I've
noticed.  Otherwise recent versions are very stable;  it is certainly
the best solution if you don't run Windows.  The included Stetic
designer for Gtk# is quite nice as well.

> VS 2005 is good but automatically inserts a bunch of code that doesnt
> get along well with mono, so that stuff just has to be deleted.
> SharpDevelop has been the best option for me so far. I have few
> problems with it and it does everything I need it to.

Does SharpDevelop have much in the way of Gtk# support?

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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Austin Winstanley]

[Quote]> Does SharpDevelop have much in the way of Gtk# support?[/Quote]

It supports building anything that mono will build, so in that regard,
yes. But I dont know about the designer support. I just build in
WinForms for Mono and so far I have not been able to get the
SharpDevelop designer for that working. I do find that an unintended
benefit of being forced to not use a designer is that my coding skills
have improved overall in regards to manually or dynamically designing
a layout.

Google has a bunch of good info on sharpdevelop and GTK#
http://www.google.com/search?q=sharpdevelop+gtk%23+support&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


On 1/26/07, Adam Tauno Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mono-Develop is ok
>
> I find Monodevelop to be pretty good.
>
> > but kind of a pain to work with, in my experience.
>
> It can be;  occasionally code completion stops working in the editor and
> when you build your project it frequently doesn't catch the messages so
> you have to look at the Build Output tab rather than the errors/warnings
> tab and navigate to the errors yourself.  Those are the two things I've
> noticed.  Otherwise recent versions are very stable;  it is certainly
> the best solution if you don't run Windows.  The included Stetic
> designer for Gtk# is quite nice as well.
>
> > VS 2005 is good but automatically inserts a bunch of code that doesnt
> > get along well with mono, so that stuff just has to be deleted.
> > SharpDevelop has been the best option for me so far. I have few
> > problems with it and it does everything I need it to.
>
> Does SharpDevelop have much in the way of Gtk# support?
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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Martin Trejo]

Well, as usually I work mainly in Windows, VS 2005 is my default IDE
although I don't think is the best. I feel it slower than VS2003.

SharpDevelop didn't fullfil my expectatives neither.

In Linux distros, MonoDevelop does a fair job but I feel it slow.

In a rush, there is nothing like vi :D

2007/1/26, Madars Vitolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi folks

I have trivial question,
What IDE you use to develop Mono and (including asp.net) applications?
Is it MS VS? Or MonoDevelop?
I have a feeling that Visual Studio 2005 is very slow platform (from point
of performance)


Thanks,
Madars.

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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Ben Timby]

SharpDevelop runs only on Windows, so I can't use it.

VS.NET is a hog and only runs on Windows.

MonoDevelop constantly crashes on my machine with the experimental 
ASPNET and ASPNETEDITOR extensions. Without these it is really just 
another editor.

csharp-plugin for eclipse is very shaky, it only provides syntax 
highlighting and that is all, everything else must be configured 
manually (builds etc). If you are not familar with Eclipse, this is a 
tough row to hoe.

X-Develop is non-free and I ran into an issue getting it to work 
smoothly for mono. I am sure with time I could have worked out the 
issues, but I moved on before trying too hard.

Anjuta would not compile on my amd64 machine due to scintilla errors and 
KDevelop has no features for C#/mono.

A few weeks ago I tried out SciTE, it does syntax highlighting for C#, I 
configured it to invoke nant for builds (F7) and invoke xsp for the GO 
command (F5). It provides everything I need for development (multiple 
buffers, tabs, very fast, very configurable, very simple). Furthermore, 
it is able to parse the output of the compiler so it can jump right to 
the file/line where the error occurred. You can save your workspace, so 
it remembers the files you have open, this works like a poor man's project.

I would like to use MonoDevelop once again when it becomes more stable. 
For now I will use SciTE. I am used to using VS.NET 2003 at work, but I 
don't really *NEED* any of the crap it has that the other editors do 
not. Further I run Linux at home, so this is not an option for me 
anymore. I might miss the debugger but those mostly make you lazy anyway.

Madars Vitolins wrote:
> Hi folks
> 
> I have trivial question,
> What IDE you use to develop Mono and (including asp.net) applications?
> Is it MS VS? Or MonoDevelop?
> I have a feeling that Visual Studio 2005 is very slow platform (from point
> of performance)
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Madars.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Jonathan Gilbert]

At 11:50 AM 1/26/2007 -0500, Ben Timby wrote:
>I might miss the debugger but those mostly make you lazy anyway.

I prefer the word "productive" ;-)

Jonathan Gilbert
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Re: [Mono-list] IDE developing .net applications

[Trofimich]

If you don't use .NET 2.0 fetures you can try on of turbos at
http://turboexplorer.com/

Generally, as for me, Burland's Delphi is more powerfull than VS. But thay
still have no version for .NET 2.0. Hope they will release new version of
Delphi (and Turbos after that) soon.
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