Re: [Monotone-devel] Ubuntu 6.06

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas Moschny
On Wednesday 29 August 2007, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
> A simpler solution than all this might be to just use one of the
> standalone binaries from the web site:
>   http://monotone.ca/downloads/0.36/mtn-0.36-linux-x86.bz2
>   http://monotone.ca/downloads/0.36/mtn-0.36-linux_2.6-static.bz2
> Just uncompress, rename to "mtn", make executable, and put somewhere
> in your path, and they should work.
>
> (Why do we have two of these now?  I can't tell which one I would
> need or what the real difference is; do we expect that users can?  It
> would be better to just provide whichever single binary works on the
> greatest variety of possible systems...)

Well, the first is linked statically to all libs but libc, and thus needs a 
glibc 2.4 at runtime, while the second is completely static, and only needs a 
system with a 2.6 kernel. 

So, in theory, the second would be the preferred binary, because it runs on a 
wider variety of possible systems. But for static binaries, NSS is limited, 
see http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/FAQ.html#s-2.22.

Therefore, I'd suggest using the first binary, where possible :)

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Ubuntu 6.06

2007-08-29 Thread Brian May
> "Ludovic" == Ludovic Brenta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Ludovic> If you absolutely must have the latest version, upgrade to Debian
Ludovic> unstable by editing your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at the 
Debian
Ludovic> repository instead of the Ubuntu ones.  Then, do "apt-get update;
Ludovic> apt-get dist-upgrade".  monotone 0.36-1 is in unstable but has not
Ludovic> migrated to testing yet, and is being blocked by test failures on 
some
Ludovic> architectures (this is intentional).

There is a version of the package available for Debian etch, on the
main website.

I don't know if it will work or not under Ubuntu 6.06, but I would try
that first.
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Ubuntu 6.06

2007-08-29 Thread Nathaniel Smith
A simpler solution than all this might be to just use one of the
standalone binaries from the web site:
  http://monotone.ca/downloads/0.36/mtn-0.36-linux-x86.bz2
  http://monotone.ca/downloads/0.36/mtn-0.36-linux_2.6-static.bz2
Just uncompress, rename to "mtn", make executable, and put somewhere
in your path, and they should work.

(Why do we have two of these now?  I can't tell which one I would
need or what the real difference is; do we expect that users can?  It
would be better to just provide whichever single binary works on the
greatest variety of possible systems...)

On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 01:01:39PM +0200, Julio M. Merino Vidal wrote:
> On Aug 29, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Ludovic Brenta wrote:
> 
> >dtempw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>Hi Ludovic
> >>
> >>Thanks for getting back to me. As you can see in the attached
> >>screenshot, Ubuntu reports 0.33 as the latest version, I'd like to
> >>upgrade all my systems (MacOS, Windows and Linux) to 0.36, but Linux
> >>is holding me back.
> >
> >No, Linux is not holding you back.  What is holding you back is that
> >you are using a stable "long-term support" version of Ubuntu: this
> >means no package upgrades unless absolutely necessary (i.e. critical
> >bug fixes but not new features).  In fact, your Linux is also being
> >held back unless you've compiled and installed the latest version
> >(2.6.22.4) manually.
> >
> >If you absolutely must have the latest version, upgrade to Debian
> >unstable by editing your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at the Debian
> >repository instead of the Ubuntu ones.  Then, do "apt-get update;
> >apt-get dist-upgrade".  monotone 0.36-1 is in unstable but has not
> >migrated to testing yet, and is being blocked by test failures on some
> >architectures (this is intentional).
> 
> OR simply build monotone 0.36 yourself and install it in /usr/local.   
> No need to switch the whole system to unstable to get a more recent  
> version of a single package, specially if it is a tool that nothing  
> else relies on.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Monotone-devel] Ubuntu 6.06

2007-08-29 Thread Julio M. Merino Vidal

On Aug 29, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Ludovic Brenta wrote:


dtempw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Hi Ludovic

Thanks for getting back to me. As you can see in the attached
screenshot, Ubuntu reports 0.33 as the latest version, I'd like to
upgrade all my systems (MacOS, Windows and Linux) to 0.36, but Linux
is holding me back.


No, Linux is not holding you back.  What is holding you back is that
you are using a stable "long-term support" version of Ubuntu: this
means no package upgrades unless absolutely necessary (i.e. critical
bug fixes but not new features).  In fact, your Linux is also being
held back unless you've compiled and installed the latest version
(2.6.22.4) manually.

If you absolutely must have the latest version, upgrade to Debian
unstable by editing your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at the Debian
repository instead of the Ubuntu ones.  Then, do "apt-get update;
apt-get dist-upgrade".  monotone 0.36-1 is in unstable but has not
migrated to testing yet, and is being blocked by test failures on some
architectures (this is intentional).


OR simply build monotone 0.36 yourself and install it in /usr/local.   
No need to switch the whole system to unstable to get a more recent  
version of a single package, specially if it is a tool that nothing  
else relies on.


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Re: [Monotone-devel] Ubuntu 6.06

2007-08-29 Thread Ludovic Brenta
dtempw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi Ludovic
>
> Thanks for getting back to me. As you can see in the attached
> screenshot, Ubuntu reports 0.33 as the latest version, I'd like to
> upgrade all my systems (MacOS, Windows and Linux) to 0.36, but Linux
> is holding me back.

No, Linux is not holding you back.  What is holding you back is that
you are using a stable "long-term support" version of Ubuntu: this
means no package upgrades unless absolutely necessary (i.e. critical
bug fixes but not new features).  In fact, your Linux is also being
held back unless you've compiled and installed the latest version
(2.6.22.4) manually.

If you absolutely must have the latest version, upgrade to Debian
unstable by editing your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at the Debian
repository instead of the Ubuntu ones.  Then, do "apt-get update;
apt-get dist-upgrade".  monotone 0.36-1 is in unstable but has not
migrated to testing yet, and is being blocked by test failures on some
architectures (this is intentional).

Of course, by migrating to unstable, you take a risk as the name
implies.  As far as I'm concerned, I run Debian testing on my laptop
and I am content with monotone 0.33-8 and linux 2.6.21-6.

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Re: [Monotone-devel] Ubuntu 6.06

2007-08-28 Thread Ludovic Brenta
dtempw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dear Monotone developers
>
> Is there a debian package for Ubuntu 6.06? This is the LTS version and
> is what our servers use.

There is a Debian package, yes, and there has been one since 2004 or
so.  I believe Ubuntu contains it, but I have no idea what version or
in what section.  What does "apt-cache search monotone" tell you?

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[Monotone-devel] Ubuntu 6.06

2007-08-28 Thread dtempw

Dear Monotone developers

Is there a debian package for Ubuntu 6.06? This is the LTS version 
and is what our servers use.


thanks

tasdev


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