Re: [MOPO] STOP
No real post, just a note of applause to JR and MoviePosterBid (though I know he's no longer directly involved.) To MoviePosterBid it was a fun auction with really great items.And to Jr, you're one of the least hypocritical people I've gotten to know, even just online. You've always spoken in a certain way about reserves and just because MPB had MANY items not meet them, you didn't discredit yourself by suddenly being pro-reserve.It's nice to see in any business someone actually sticking to standards. Richie seems to believe in reserves, that's his right. You certainly believe in MPB and that's you're right, but you aren't a fan of reserves, and you can be respectful of Richie and his methods. Frankly, it's refreshing. Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] STOP
Weird. I sent this message to MOPO on Tuesday morning, August 1... but for some reason it is only just nowshowing up on the list early Friday morning, August 4... anyway, this thing was timely when it was written... - Original Message - From: JR To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:21 Subject: Re: [MOPO] STOP Toochis, I was waiting for someone to ask. I had a great time on Movie Poster Bid while the Special Event Auctions were closing this weekend. Turns out a last-minute technical glitch kept the sniper program from being available, so you had to bid at the last second the old-fashioned way and I enjoyed the excitement of zipping around from auction to auction, trying to slip in that last-second bid and snatch a nice item. And I managed to snag quite a few quality sci-fi posters atgood prices. But nobody was really stealing anything, as there was a real fury of bidding all day on Sunday, and from what Rich tells me, MPB realized about $30,000 in sales over the weekend! That's easily the best single day... or week... or month...that MPB has ever had. It'sa testament to Rich's determination to bring the site up tothe nextlevel. He's done a great job in just 5 months, to stage an auction of this quality and pull in $30,000 worth of sales. The final sales figure could have been maybe $20,000 higher, except for there were a fair amount of items with reserves... not my favorite thing... but those with reasonable reserves actually had them met and even bid up from there. But some of those hidden reserves looked to me... based on the bids I saw and reserves still not being met... well, some reserves seemed quitea bit too high. I think doing that is self-defeating for sellers and only serves to frustrate bidders when they bid a niceitem up to a very reasonable price and the page is still saying "reserve not met." Once again I want to point out the obvious to the sellers who have read this far: If you are going to set your reserve to high-retail, you shouldn't even bother putting the item up for auction! Just leave it in your store or on your website with the retail price tacked on for all of us to see. Don't put itup for a so-called "auction" that isn't really an auction (because you're not going to take less than high-retail for it, no matter how many bids it gets). When you do this, you make us play this stupid guessing game which no one wins because most people are NOT... repeat NOT going to pay high-retail for most items at most auctions. What's the point? For all but the rarest items, if you want to pay high-retail you don't have to screw around with bidding on a auction -- you just go to someone's website or eBay store and pay the retail price for the damn thing. So, in line with this subject thread, I do wish some sellers wouldSTOP playing these frustrating high-hidden-reserve mind games with the bidders. The purpose of a reserve is to protect yourself in a reasonable fashion against having to sell something at a giveaway price -- it isnot meant to guarantee you a high-retail price at auction. They're called auctions, you know, not retail sales events. If you don't want to hold out the possibility to the bidders of gettingsomething at agenuine buy or at least low-retail price, then don't call it an auction...just putthe itemup on your site with a For Sale sign on it -- and the price clearly marked -- and stop wasting our time. Whoopee... I can say stuff like that now that I'm not running MPB anymore! C'mon, you sellers, keep on paying your rising eBay fees if you insist, but commit at least some of your time and inventory to MPB and stop screwin' around! Those sellers who did it right this weekend at MPB are dividing up the 30 grand in sales among themselves even as you read this. You could have been one of them. JR - Original Message - From: Toochis Morin To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 19:12 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fw: [MOPO] STOP How did people do on the Movieposterbid auction?ToochisWalter Reuben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we were better off when we were commenting on all those fabulous six sheets that Kirby McDaniel has for George Arliss remakes before this detour into non-movie poster territory. Walter - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: [MOPO] STOP OK, back to movie posters. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is
Re: [MOPO] MOPO VENTING Not Poster r related
Jim, Delta was one of the last hold-outs of decent customer service, but has deteriorated since they had to declare bankruptcy. I take it you haven't flown recently? Your story, sad and stupid and unnecessary as it is, has become very commonamong air travelers these days. A very similar thing happened to me 6 months ago when I flew to California and back. Both ways, through no fault of my own, I was unable to get onmy connecting flight and was stranded in airports overnight... no offer fromthe airline for compensation or to put me up in a hotel or pay for a mea... not even an simple apology or hollow "we're sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused you". In fact, they made me feel damn lucky that they were even trying to get me on another flight the next day. I got the impression they would have gladly just let me sit in the airport indefinitely like Tom Hanks in TERMINAL. My sister-in-law had an identical experience two months ago. Last week my wife's boss and his entire family (including a very young baby) were stranded in Miami overnight... again through absolutely no fault of their own. Welcome to the Third World country called America... the airlines are symptomatic of what our country has become under the holy grail of so-called"free market global economy" stewardship of 24 years of neo-conservative administration (on economic issues I consider Clinton to have proven himselfaneocon in liberal's clothing -- he was the one who pushed NAFTA through Congress and offered the Big Oil companies no-cost leases to drill for oil in the publicly-owned waters of the Gulf of Mexico). Don't believe it has happened here, tothe good old USA? Check this out: Even though it's been a year, the Southeast's main railroad freight and passenger line from New Orleans east into Florida is STILL NOT REPAIREDfrom the damage hurricane Katrina did to it. This isThe Major shipping artery for 20% of the country. I can tell you that in the America I grew up in, it would have been back in service in 3 or 4 months, no matter how badly it was damaged. But these days it's still "temporarily out of service" after a year!That's the kind of thing I mighthave expected in Mexico or Columbia or some Africannation, but here?On the other hand,our federal government has no problem authorizing spending $1.5 BILLION dollars PER WEEK in Iraq!!! Sorry for speaking so bluntly and venting myself... but I'm sick to death of what they've done to my country under their false flag of phony patriotism... and we were off-topic anyway. I'm done now, officer... I go along quietly... "OK folks...Move along... nothing more to see here..." -- JR - Original Message - From: jim episale To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 14:50 Subject: [MOPO] MOPO VENTING Not Poster r related read all about my experience with Delta Airlines last night!!! 220 Pulley Ave Manahawkin, NJ 08050 August 2, 2006 Delta Airlines Customer Care PO Box 20980 Dept 980 Atlanta, GA 30320 Dear Sir, We had the most awful experience today with your airline. We are frequent travelers on Delta and have not had any major issues before. My husband was reunited with his 15yer old granddaughter after 13 yrs this spring. We decided to bring her to New Jersey for a two week visit this summer. On July 12, 2006 we booked a flight for her using our SkyMiles account to pay for the tickets. The confirmation number is DSKC9I, flight 5591 out of Burlington to JFK and the flight 6188 from JFK to Philadelphia. At the time of the reservation the Delta Representative was told that Isabella Faulstick would be an unaccompanied minor. This was made note of and contact information for both her mother and us was obtained. All pertinent information for her was given to Delta. We were issued the tickets and SkyMiles and credit card information was given to the Delta Representative to take care of the fees involved. Isabellas experience started in Burlington, VT. They did not have the information that she was an unaccompanied minor traveling. This was straightened out b at the airport in Vermont. She was almost not put on the flight due to overbooking. When she left Burlington it was with the understanding that her connecting flight was still available. At 4pm when we checked the status of her flight we found out that her connecting flight was canceled. No one from the airline contacted either her mother or us to inform us of this problem. We then called the airline and were directed to the re-issue department. We started dealing with Jill in the reissue department at 4pm. At this point Isabellas nightmare began. Jill managed to book her on a van to Newark from JFK. When we reached Isabella to explain the situation she had already been to the Gate counter and been told to take the bus to LaGuardia. Jill had already put the information into the computer and it was
Re: [MOPO] MOPO VENTING Not Poster r related
Honestly, I'm slightly surprised anyone books directly with airlines or hotels anymore. No amount or traveling seems to earn customer respect today. Recently I booked a flight and motel through Expedia. My experience was HORRIBLE. Horrible.I wrote Expedia a strongly worded letter about it all. They REFUNDED my trip, and gave me a $100 coupon for use through their network,To me, that's quality customer service above and beyond. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA: 20 Yugo posters on eBay, low start at 3.99: spaghetti, western, wwII, ....
Hello,I have posted 20 posters on eBay with low start price of $3.99. This is mypromo sale and you will be able to find those title with this starting priceONLY this time. Please take a look into my list:Alfio Caltabiano UNA SPADA PER BRANDO Cimarosa YUGOCarroll Baker HARLOW Red Buttons YUGO very rareDan Duryea BOUNTY KILLER Rod Cameron YUGO very rareDarren McGavin THE CHALLENGERS Anne Baxter race YUGODirk Bogarde OUR MOTHER'S HOUSE Jack Clayton YUGO rareGeorge Segal KING RAT James Fox YUGO poster very rareGlenn Ford DAY OF THE EVIL GUN Jerry Thorpe YUGO rareGregory Peck MACKENNA'S GOLD Omar Shariff YUGO rareJack Palance THE DESPERADOS Vince Edwards YUGO rareKing Vidor TEXAS RANGERS Jack Oakie YUGO very rareLancaster, Clift, FROM HERE TO ETERNITY Kerr YUGO rareMarlon Brando APOCALIPSE NOW Martin Sheen YUGOMichael Caine BEYOND THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE Savalas YURobert Altman MCCABE MRS MILLER Beatty Christie YUGORobert Redford ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN Dustin HoffmanRobert Redford HAVANA Sydney Pollack YUGO rareRod Taylor THE DEADLY TRACKERS Richard Harris YUGOSpaghetti CLINT EL SOLITARIO Alfonso Balcazar YUGO rareWilliam Holden THE DEVIL's BRIGADE Vince Edwards YUGOWilliam Hurt BODY HEAT Kathleen Turner YUGO very rareAll those posters you can find on URL:http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZabposterQQhtZ-1Thank you for your time.Regards,Andrija How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! MessengerÂ’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] fa: ENDING TODAY and NEW LISTINGS ALL NO RESERVE!!! CINEMASTERPIECES
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZcinemasterpieces David A. LiebermanCineMasterpieces.com602 309 0500 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA - GREAT MOVIE PAPER - ENDING SATURDAY MORNING!
HI MOPO'S - ENDING SATURDAY MORNING ON EBAY! (AND SOME A WEEK FROM SATURDAY) MANY WITH SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN PRICE! MOST IN AMAZING CONDITION! http://stores.ebay.com/Museum-Store-Gifts_MOVIE-POSTERS SELECTED TITLES - BUT THERE'S LOTS MORE! INSERTS: NOT OF THIS EARTH - A C10 MINT BEAUTY! REAR WINDOW - R62 LAWRENCE OF ARABIA - STYLE B LET'S MAKE LOVE ABBOTT AND COSTELLO IN THE FOREIGN LEGION WEST SIDE STORY - R62 - BASS JOE LOUIS STORY MUSIC LAND COUNTRY GIRL - GRACE KELLY TALES OF TERROR BONJOUR TRISTESSE - BASS ROOGIE'S BUMP (REDUCED) MAD WEDNESDAY - HAROLD LLOYD DAVID AND BATHSHEBA TWO FOR THE ROAD +MORE HALF SHEETS: ROMAN HOLIDAY - GORGEOUS ORIGINAL RELEASE (REDUCED) NORTH BY NORTHWEST - RARE R66 MT. RUSHMORE WITH HITCHCOCK HEAD (REDUCED) REFORM SCHOOL GIRL - AIP BAD GIRL PRISON CLASSIC SHOULD A GIRL MARRY - 1939 BAND WAGON + MORE! ONE SHEETS: WICKER MAN - RARE ORIGINAL STAR WARS - STYLE D AND A SPANISH C 12 ANGRY MEN WILD ANGELS ASPHALT JUNGLE - R54 HEAD - RARE STYLE A THE BIG KNIFE - NOIR HOLLYWOOD BEHIND PRISON GATES - 1939 BUS STOP (REDUCED) TORN CURTAIN - 3S + MORE! LOBBIES: ABBOTT AND COSTELLO GO TO MARS - TITLE CARD - BRIDES OF DRACULA - TITLE CARD AND MORE BOWERY AT MIDNIGHT - R CLIMAX - KARLOFF BEAST WITH FIVE FINGERS DEAD MAN'S EYES ABBOTT AND COSTELLO MEET THE KILLER CURSE OF THE WEREWOLF DEMENTIA 13 BLOOD OF THE VAMPIRE BLUEBEARD - 1944 + BAD GIRL, TEEN, BLACK AND KUNG FU TITLES! + A GREAT SELECTION OF WARDROBE AND PROPS AND ORIGINAL ART! + GREAT STORE SELECTION AND LOTS OF BUY IT NOW PRICES! BID WITH CONFIDENCE AND ENJOY COLLECTOR SINCE THE 1950'S- DEALER SINCE THE 1970'S. ALAN ADLER Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] WTB: Taxi Driver OS
Hello Mopo, Looking for one in MINT condition, thanx. -- Regards, Stanley Oh Posteritati 239 Centre Street New York, NY 10013 212-226-2207/ Fax: 212-226-2102 http://www.posteritati.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] FA: Dr. No, Cool Hand Luke, Beach Party, Viva Las Vegas, 437 more
Hello, just wanted to remind everybody - Heritage Auctions Internet Movie Poster Auctions currently features 437 poster lots (almost all one sheets) closing this Sunday, August 6th at 10 PM (CT). To view all 437 items click below. http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/auction/catalog.php?Sale_No=56081 This week we are featuring a great collection of one sheet original posters from the 1960's and early 70's. Four classic James Bond with Sean Connery - Dr. No, From Russia With Love, Thunderball and You Only Live Twice. Sixteen different Elvis one sheets - including Viva Las Vegas, Paradise Hawaiian Style, Spinout and Speedway. Classics like Cool Hand Luke, Blow-Up, Nevada Smith, The Professionals, El Dorado, The Dirty Dozen and Charade. Cult classics like The Wild Angels, Beach Party, Hey There It's Yogi Bear, and Muscle Beach Party. Rare horror and science fiction including Fantastic Voyage, One Million Years B.C., The Gorgon, King Kong Vs. Godzilla, Godzilla Vs. The Thing, Tales of Terror, Mysterious Island, Kiss of the Vampire, Konga, and Reptilicus. These are only some of the rare and wonderful items we have for auction this week. Please click On the links below to see some of the highlights. Thanks, Bruce Carteron Dr. No Near Mint 1962 Original One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26105 Cool Hand Luke 1967 One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26079 El Dorado John Wayne One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26113 King Kong Vs. Godzilla Original One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26210 Beach Party 1963 Frankie Annette One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26027 Charade 1963 Original One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26070 The Dirty Dozen 1967 One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26097 Kiss of the Vampire 1963 One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26212 Thunderball 1965 Original One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26385 Viva Las Vegas Elvis One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26406 You Only Live Twice 1967 Original One Sheet http://movieposters.heritageauctions.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=56081Lot_No=26436 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
[MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question.
I was just wondering how others employ terms describing areas of paper loss on poster borders. I generally use the term "nick" for anything under, say, a quarter-inch at its widest end, usually triangular or V-shaped. I use the term "paper loss" for anything larger than that and/or of a different shape (half-moon or some such, most often). I've never used the word "chip," though I've seen many other vendors do so (auction houses in particular), and often for quite large and significant areas of paper loss, like missing corners. "Chip" would seem to imply a smaller, less significantarea of paper loss to me. I'm wondering whether other sellers and collectors have specific criteria for how they use or read these terms. Sorry if this seems like a pedantic question, but any opinions would be welcome. Thanks, Dave Posteropolis www.posteropolis.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question.
Just my personal take on descriptions: I'd place a"nick" at 1/8" or less and not necessarily mean that it was including paper loss. A "small" border tear means that there's no paper loss and the tear does not intrude into the image area of the poster. Any paper loss would be indicated. If a poster has a wide white border, and has tear/tears over an inch, I'd probably be inclined to give a better idea of size of tear/s. Paper loss means missing paper, whether coursed through fold separations (i.e. not a clean split, but actually missing image or white border paper loss) or tears. Anything bigger than that comes more under the term "papr out" or "paper missing". Of course the more detail one gives often gives a misleading idea of the overall condition of a poster making it sound far, far worse than itactually is. We routinely receive feedback that says, "far better condition than described". Maybve we'd sell more if we were less pedantic about describing condition issues. Even big digital images "lie" as to seeing what's what with a poster, and while it takes longer, we prefer a verbal description. If we say Near Mint-Mint (our top rating, rarely given) it means that there's nothing discernible. Of course when one is wading through several hundred items a week and not using a batallion of "buddy graders" to do the work, itis possible that through eyestrain one misses something. But we also live in the age of "condition freak" where 50, 60, 70 year old posters are supposed to still look perfect. And if they don't, through the fact that they were used for the purpose for which they were designed, and werenever intended for public collectability, they can have a facelift through linen backing and cosmetic enhancement so they LOOK perfect. It has to look "perfect" because we live in an age of "perfection". One only has to look at the degree that many films are "cleaned up" to for DVD release, but where the "clean-up" has actually removed detail through removal of grain texture from the film as it was shot. It's like the hard, cold sound that so many CDs have when conpared to the "warmth" of the original analog vinyl versions. There are some collectors who cannot stand the sight of a single fold line, completely forgetting that this is EXACTLY how movie posters were made to be seen when created for the use for which they were created. Condition is sometimes (often?) in the eye of the beholder. And that eye can be determined whether it's someone trying to sell it or someone trying to find reasons to get a price down. All sorts of stuff. Phil - Original Message - From: Dave Rosen To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question. I was just wondering how others employ terms describing areas of paper loss on poster borders. I generally use the term "nick" for anything under, say, a quarter-inch at its widest end, usually triangular or V-shaped. I use the term "paper loss" for anything larger than that and/or of a different shape (half-moon or some such, most often). I've never used the word "chip," though I've seen many other vendors do so (auction houses in particular), and often for quite large and significant areas of paper loss, like missing corners. "Chip" would seem to imply a smaller, less significantarea of paper loss to me. I'm wondering whether other sellers and collectors have specific criteria for how they use or read these terms. Sorry if this seems like a pedantic question, but any opinions would be welcome. Thanks, Dave Posteropolis www.posteropolis.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question.
The word "chip" come from the world book collecting, where it has been used to describe paper loss forever. Many auctioneers sold books before moving into other areas of paper collecting the term carried over. But there's no question that condition and condition terms/description are so subjective that to really do a good job you often make the poster sound far worse than it really is. This is why I think Bruce has the right idea -- don't give much of a written condition description at all, just put up an extremely large-size, well-lit and well-photographed high-resolution picture and tell people to examine it closely and letthem make their own condition evaluation. That way you only have to mention anything unusual on the back. If you try to be conscientious and accurately describe every tiny little condition detail of a poster, you always end up with something that makes your C8 sound like a C5. -- JR - Original Message - From: Phil Edwards Cinema Arts To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 21:02 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question. Just my personal take on descriptions: I'd place a"nick" at 1/8" or less and not necessarily mean that it was including paper loss. A "small" border tear means that there's no paper loss and the tear does not intrude into the image area of the poster. Any paper loss would be indicated. If a poster has a wide white border, and has tear/tears over an inch, I'd probably be inclined to give a better idea of size of tear/s. Paper loss means missing paper, whether coursed through fold separations (i.e. not a clean split, but actually missing image or white border paper loss) or tears. Anything bigger than that comes more under the term "papr out" or "paper missing". Of course the more detail one gives often gives a misleading idea of the overall condition of a poster making it sound far, far worse than itactually is. We routinely receive feedback that says, "far better condition than described". Maybve we'd sell more if we were less pedantic about describing condition issues. Even big digital images "lie" as to seeing what's what with a poster, and while it takes longer, we prefer a verbal description. If we say Near Mint-Mint (our top rating, rarely given) it means that there's nothing discernible. Of course when one is wading through several hundred items a week and not using a batallion of "buddy graders" to do the work, itis possible that through eyestrain one misses something. But we also live in the age of "condition freak" where 50, 60, 70 year old posters are supposed to still look perfect. And if they don't, through the fact that they were used for the purpose for which they were designed, and werenever intended for public collectability, they can have a facelift through linen backing and cosmetic enhancement so they LOOK perfect. It has to look "perfect" because we live in an age of "perfection". One only has to look at the degree that many films are "cleaned up" to for DVD release, but where the "clean-up" has actually removed detail through removal of grain texture from the film as it was shot. It's like the hard, cold sound that so many CDs have when conpared to the "warmth" of the original analog vinyl versions. There are some collectors who cannot stand the sight of a single fold line, completely forgetting that this is EXACTLY how movie posters were made to be seen when created for the use for which they were created. Condition is sometimes (often?) in the eye of the beholder. And that eye can be determined whether it's someone trying to sell it or someone trying to find reasons to get a price down. All sorts of stuff. Phil - Original Message - From: Dave Rosen To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question. I was just wondering how others employ terms describing areas of paper loss on poster borders. I generally use the term "nick" for anything under, say, a quarter-inch at its widest end, usually triangular or V-shaped. I use the term "paper loss" for anything larger than that and/or of a different shape (half-moon or some such, most often). I've never used the word "chip," though I've seen many other vendors do so (auction houses in particular), and often for quite large and significant areas of paper loss, like missing corners. "Chip" would seem to imply a smaller, less significantarea of paper loss to me. I'm wondering whether other sellers and collectors have specific criteria for how they use or read these terms. Sorry if this seems like a pedantic question, but any opinions would be welcome. Thanks, Dave Posteropolis www.posteropolis.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question.
What auction isn't buyer beware, viz., use your own judgmentbut even that is ameliorated by fair sellers offering unconditional refunds. So there's generallyan outfor buyers and sellers avoid negative feedback, if mistakes are made. If there's a substitute - a photo - for having to explain what the relative condition of a poster is, then why have grading? If there's a time cost savings by not having to spend time or thought explaining the condition of the front, then why bother describing the back? Why not spend the money saved in time and use a photo of the back as well? Many times, having bought an older poster, I have been taken aback by the large amount of tape and usually bad tape at that, on the back, plus writing, both of which are often described as "some tape on back" and "small amount of writing that might bleed thru". I'd rather have had a picture of the back. Sellers might well use a photo of the back (and a photo of the front) rather than expect people to read through dense explanations that relate - sometimes - to a series of condition opinions on which not everyone agrees and that really just are meant to state - look at the photo(s) and make your own judgment. Most buyers end up doing that anyway. Craig - Original Message - From: JR To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question. The word "chip" come from the world book collecting, where it has been used to describe paper loss forever. Many auctioneers sold books before moving into other areas of paper collecting the term carried over. But there's no question that condition and condition terms/description are so subjective that to really do a good job you often make the poster sound far worse than it really is. This is why I think Bruce has the right idea -- don't give much of a written condition description at all, just put up an extremely large-size, well-lit and well-photographed high-resolution picture and tell people to examine it closely and letthem make their own condition evaluation. That way you only have to mention anything unusual on the back. If you try to be conscientious and accurately describe every tiny little condition detail of a poster, you always end up with something that makes your C8 sound like a C5. -- JR - Original Message - From: Phil Edwards Cinema Arts To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 21:02 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Nicks, chips and paper loss - A question. Just my personal take on descriptions: I'd place a"nick" at 1/8" or less and not necessarily mean that it was including paper loss. A "small" border tear means that there's no paper loss and the tear does not intrude into the image area of the poster. Any paper loss would be indicated. If a poster has a wide white border, and has tear/tears over an inch, I'd probably be inclined to give a better idea of size of tear/s. Paper loss means missing paper, whether coursed through fold separations (i.e. not a clean split, but actually missing image or white border paper loss) or tears. Anything bigger than that comes more under the term "papr out" or "paper missing". Of course the more detail one gives often gives a misleading idea of the overall condition of a poster making it sound far, far worse than itactually is. We routinely receive feedback that says, "far better condition than described". Maybve we'd sell more if we were less pedantic about describing condition issues. Even big digital images "lie" as to seeing what's what with a poster, and while it takes longer, we prefer a verbal description. If we say Near Mint-Mint (our top rating, rarely given) it means that there's nothing discernible. Of course when one is wading through several hundred items a week and not using a batallion of "buddy graders" to do the work, itis possible that through eyestrain one misses something. But we also live in the age of "condition freak" where 50, 60, 70 year old posters are supposed to still look perfect. And if they don't, through the fact that they were used for the purpose for which they were designed, and werenever intended for public collectability, they can have a facelift through linen backing and cosmetic enhancement so they LOOK perfect. It has to look "perfect" because we live in an age of "perfection". One only has to look at the degree that many films are "cleaned up" to for DVD release, but where the "clean-up" has actually removed detail through removal of grain texture from the film as it was shot. It's like the hard, cold sound that so many CDs have when conpared to the "warmth" of the original analog vinyl versions. There are some collectors who cannot stand the sight of a single fold line,
