Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

2016-08-22 Thread Phillip Ayling
There is no real official authority for all of this, but there is a small
nuance to consider. The country in question is Canada and from an exhibition
and marketing standpoint US film producers consider Canada as part of the
United States Domestic market. That is how BO receipts and profit
participation is calculated (except for the Quebec/French speaking part of
the country). While International campaigns for a big Hollywood film may
roll out differently in other English speaking countries like Britain or
Australia, the publicity materials are almost always identical in the US and
Canada, even if the wide release dates are staggered (though they usually
aren't).  

 

Ratings for US films are done in the US by the MPAA (Motion Picture
Association of America). While the MPAA is rather well known, it is
generally not so well known that they are just the political lobbying arm of
the AMPTP (The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers). This is
just a business practice/PR move that the studios put in place to do away
with local and regional censorship boards that once existed in many US
states and cities.

 

While ratings are almost always on a US poster, it is only a requirement if
you want MPAA certification.  The fact that a poster doesn't have a rating
box on it, doesn't mean that the poster was not intended for domestic US
consumption. It is very common for advance posters to be made without
ratings boxes (even if an MPAA ratings box will be desired for the release
version). Often times, release posters (with contractual credits and release
artwork) are prepared for premieres prior to a final MPAA rating but before
the printing of a large general release run of posters. 

 

Those posters often say something like "This film is not yet rated", however
that disclaimer is a more recent practice and is not to be found on all
advances. In times past there have certainly been plenty of posters made in
the US (with artwork identical to the eventual release poster) with no
ratings reference box at all. Most of those were (and are) sent to US
theatres for premieres, benefits and festivals. This advertises the film
with all of the appropriate star and director credits even before the final
cut/answer print is completed and available to be sent to the MPAA for
review. Those posters were definitely intended for domestic use and in many
cases they may be absolutely identical to posters identified as "the
international" version.   

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of filip de
volder
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 12:10 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

 

Hi Daniel and all , the thing is that i've had quite a bit of "international
"US 1 sheets (and 3 sheets) and in general the blue rubberstamp on the back
sais so (sometimes it's printed on the front of the poster in a bottomcorner
too that it's "int'l" ) , this one doesn't   but sure a poster printed
in the usa that is being send out worldwide to say 30 different countries
makes it a US  poster , if say 30 were used in belgium those would become
belgian posters , 15 of the same poster used in switzerland would become
swiss posters ??? 

also the guy sais , and  who knows how he got that idea  " in most cases, it
is impossible to determine where a poster was manufactured. "









 

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From: Daniel Edward Kinske mailto:colorfulcomedi...@me.com> >
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:15 PM
To: filip de volder
Cc: MoPo
Subject: Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ? 

 

Filip, 

 

It is a good question, but I would tend to lean towards your summation. I
think you can tell an overseas poster that was printed in the US by the
artwork being exact. There are some posters that essentially copy the US
artwork-I see that a lot with Hirschfeld's work, which I guess is a form of
flattery (and indolence.) 

 

I'll see an "A Day at the Races" one sheet with the exact stone-litho US art
and just the Spanish copy-it is usually the "Espana" posters, not something
from Mexico, as those posters definitely vary from the US ones-and some
variations are interesting, like the adding of color to artwork, that wasn't
color before, etc.

 

The "Phantom of the Paradise" is a cult-classic, so not surprised there are
"experts" on the posters, but it is a strange beast as you have commercial
posters that are odd sizes like 33x33" (see filmartgallery seller on eBay)
and there is a one-sheet revised with new art released in 1975. It has the
"PG Guidance" on it-I guess it is a bit scary to see a guy dressed like a
bird on a mixing board climbing and crowing. 

 

As a seller, the bird seller Swan could be a little more polite-especially
to a customer. It isn't "nonsense" as their are validities to both
statements and a difference in codification shouldn't elicit consternation. 

 

I've seen US artwork on Belgian posters as well. There is a great example of
a "What? No Beer!" Belgian poster (sold by 

Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

2016-08-22 Thread Daniel Edward Kinske
Filip,

That is cool, I’ve seen censor stamps, but haven’t noticed the blue 
rubber-stamps (did they stamp Chaplin films? Would that be an international 
Tramp Stamp?)

A recent example I can think of (relatively recent) is when “Star Wars: The 
Phantom Menace” (Lucasfilm, 1999) was released the regular one sheet poster art 
(by Drew Struzan) was per contract the only art George Lucas would let the 
international distributors use—only the copy could be changed to the foreign 
countries native language (s), so simultaneously you would see that art all 
over the world, an interesting tid-bit, that is also mentioned in the 2013 
documentary “Drew.”

-d…




On Aug 22, 2016, at 12:10 PM, filip de volder  wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel and all , the thing is that i've had quite a bit of "international 
> "US 1 sheets (and 3 sheets) and in general the blue rubberstamp on the back 
> sais so (sometimes it's printed on the front of the poster in a bottomcorner 
> too that it's "int'l" ) , this one doesn't   but sure a poster printed in 
> the usa that is being send out worldwide to say 30 different countries makes 
> it a US  poster , if say 30 were used in belgium those would become  belgian 
> posters , 15 of the same poster used in switzerland would become swiss 
> posters ??? 
> also the guy sais , and  who knows how he got that idea  " in most cases, it 
> is impossible to determine where a poster was manufactured. "
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Daniel Edward Kinske 
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:15 PM
> To: filip de volder
> Cc: MoPo
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?
>  
> Filip,
> 
> It is a good question, but I would tend to lean towards your summation. I 
> think you can tell an overseas poster that was printed in the US by the 
> artwork being exact. There are some posters that essentially copy the US 
> artwork—I see that a lot with Hirschfeld’s work, which I guess is a form of 
> flattery (and indolence.) 
> 
> I’ll see an “A Day at the Races” one sheet with the exact stone-litho US art 
> and just the Spanish copy—it is usually the “Espana” posters, not something 
> from Mexico, as those posters definitely vary from the US ones—and some 
> variations are interesting, like the adding of color to artwork, that wasn’t 
> color before, etc.
> 
> The “Phantom of the Paradise” is a cult-classic, so not surprised there are 
> “experts” on the posters, but it is a strange beast as you have commercial 
> posters that are odd sizes like 33x33” (see filmartgallery seller on eBay) 
> and there is a one-sheet revised with new art released in 1975. It has the 
> “PG Guidance” on it—I guess it is a bit scary to see a guy dressed like a 
> bird on a mixing board climbing and crowing. 
> 
> As a seller, the bird seller Swan could be a little more polite—especially to 
> a customer. It isn’t “nonsense” as their are validities to both statements 
> and a difference in codification shouldn’t elicit consternation. 
> 
> I’ve seen US artwork on Belgian posters as well. There is a great example of 
> a “What? No Beer!” Belgian poster (sold by eMovieposter) that has the same US 
> stone-litho art of Buster Keaton and Jimmy Durante that are one the US 
> three-sheet (Style “B”) and I’ve never seen the US three sheet, so sometimes 
> if you want the US art, you need to look globally. 
> 
> That is why I like to pursue Benito’s yellowish orange website as he has 
> examples of posters with US art that are US period, or examples of the 
> aforementioned posters. He has a three sheet to “The Wizard of Oz” (Style 
> “A”, not the elusive—but extant—Style “B”)
> 
> I would just take his “nonsense” advice, say thank you, and purchase 
> elsewhere—from one who doesn’t live in a ivory palace or act like a phallus.
> 
> -d…
>  
>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:27 AM, filip de volder > > wrote:
>> 
>> i  had this exchange on ebay with someone who really seems a bit of a 
>> posterexpert regarding a pantom of the paradise 1sheet i have up :
>> 
>> Hi - this is not a US 1-sheet. This one was for the Canadian market. The US 
>> 1-sheet would have the PG ("Parental Guidance") logo.
>> 
>> - swanarchives
>> 
>> 
>> hi, it is a US one sheet , please use the zoom function to see bottom 
>> details on the poster
>> filip
>> 
>> - runbuffy
>> 
>> I promise you, it is the Canadian version. National Screen Service 
>> distributed the posters to both the USA and Canada. The USA version has the 
>> PG logo in the lower left corner, like this one: 
>> https://www.swanarchives.org/ImagePopup.asp?image=onesheetstylea_lrg.jpg 
>>  
>> The Canadian version does not.
>> 
>> - swanarchives
>> 
>> hi, the poster was made in the usa therefor is a US poster , before the 70s 
>> a lot of US 1 sheets were made for south america with the text in spanish , 
>> that doesn't make the posters colombian or venezuelan , they were american 1 
>> sheets for the south americ

Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

2016-08-22 Thread filip de volder
Hi Daniel and all , the thing is that i've had quite a bit of "international 
"US 1 sheets (and 3 sheets) and in general the blue rubberstamp on the back 
sais so (sometimes it's printed on the front of the poster in a bottomcorner 
too that it's "int'l" ) , this one doesn't   but sure a poster printed in 
the usa that is being send out worldwide to say 30 different countries makes it 
a US  poster , if say 30 were used in belgium those would become  belgian 
posters , 15 of the same poster used in switzerland would become swiss posters 
???

also the guy sais , and  who knows how he got that idea  " in most cases, it is 
impossible to determine where a poster was manufactured. "





From: Daniel Edward Kinske 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 6:15 PM
To: filip de volder
Cc: MoPo
Subject: Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

Filip,

It is a good question, but I would tend to lean towards your summation. I think 
you can tell an overseas poster that was printed in the US by the artwork being 
exact. There are some posters that essentially copy the US artwork—I see that a 
lot with Hirschfeld’s work, which I guess is a form of flattery (and indolence.)

I’ll see an “A Day at the Races” one sheet with the exact stone-litho US art 
and just the Spanish copy—it is usually the “Espana” posters, not something 
from Mexico, as those posters definitely vary from the US ones—and some 
variations are interesting, like the adding of color to artwork, that wasn’t 
color before, etc.

The “Phantom of the Paradise” is a cult-classic, so not surprised there are 
“experts” on the posters, but it is a strange beast as you have commercial 
posters that are odd sizes like 33x33” (see filmartgallery seller on eBay) and 
there is a one-sheet revised with new art released in 1975. It has the “PG 
Guidance” on it—I guess it is a bit scary to see a guy dressed like a bird on a 
mixing board climbing and crowing.

As a seller, the bird seller Swan could be a little more polite—especially to a 
customer. It isn’t “nonsense” as their are validities to both statements and a 
difference in codification shouldn’t elicit consternation.

I’ve seen US artwork on Belgian posters as well. There is a great example of a 
“What? No Beer!” Belgian poster (sold by eMovieposter) that has the same US 
stone-litho art of Buster Keaton and Jimmy Durante that are one the US 
three-sheet (Style “B”) and I’ve never seen the US three sheet, so sometimes if 
you want the US art, you need to look globally.

That is why I like to pursue Benito’s yellowish orange website as he has 
examples of posters with US art that are US period, or examples of the 
aforementioned posters. He has a three sheet to “The Wizard of Oz” (Style “A”, 
not the elusive—but extant—Style “B”)

I would just take his “nonsense” advice, say thank you, and purchase 
elsewhere—from one who doesn’t live in a ivory palace or act like a phallus.

-d…

On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:27 AM, filip de volder 
mailto:runbuffy...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

i  had this exchange on ebay with someone who really seems a bit of a 
posterexpert regarding a pantom of the paradise 1sheet i have up :

Hi - this is not a US 1-sheet. This one was for the Canadian market. The US 
1-sheet would have the PG ("Parental Guidance") logo.

- swanarchives


hi, it is a US one sheet , please use the zoom function to see bottom details 
on the poster
filip

- runbuffy


I promise you, it is the Canadian version. National Screen Service distributed 
the posters to both the USA and Canada. The USA version has the PG logo in the 
lower left corner, like this one: 
https://www.swanarchives.org/ImagePopup.asp?image=onesheetstylea_lrg.jpg The 
Canadian version does not.

- swanarchives


hi, the poster was made in the usa therefor is a US poster , before the 70s a 
lot of US 1 sheets were made for south america with the text in spanish , that 
doesn't make the posters colombian or venezuelan , they were american 1 sheets 
for the south american movie theaters so the phantom of the paradise is an 
american poster for the canadian theaters , the poster was not made in canada
thanks, filip

- runbuffy


No, that's just nonsense. Movie posters are always referred to by the geography 
where they are intended to be used, not where they were manufactured. This is 
because, in most cases, it is impossible to determine where a poster was 
manufactured. If the US studios started having some posters made in China for 
use in the USA, nobody would call these "Chinese movie posters." A poster with 
Danish language intended for use in Denmark would be called a "Danish movie 
poster," regardless where it was printed. Good luck with your auction, though.


- swanarchives



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Re: [MOPO] Gentlemen Prefer Blondes one sheet wanted

2016-08-22 Thread Michael Danese
Hi Sam,
I have one. Condition is poor. I can send a photo if you are interested. 

Thanks,
MD

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Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

2016-08-22 Thread Helmut Hamm
I'm sorry to say, but the below statement from swanarchives is utter nonsense. 
Movie posters are ALWAYS referred to the geography where they were PRINTED.

Traditionally, some countries produced their own posters and other advertising 
material, others did not. For the countries that did not print their own 
posters, the production company would either use the domestic material and send 
it along with the film prints, OR they would print international versions of 
the posters: Sometimes in english, sometimes in a foreign language. 

Printed in USA posters for the international market were predominantly english 
and spanish. Japanese export posters were in english. Heck, I have even seen 
east-german export posters in english. 

Here's an example, a japanese poster for GOKE, printed in Japan for 
international use:

http://www.filmposter.net/en/goke-body-snatcher-from-hell-original-release-japanese-export-movie-poster/
 


It was printed in Japan, so it's a japanese poster, period. These were used in 
the US, but that does not make this a US poster.

Canada always imported at least 99% of their movie posters, so the chance that 
the PHANTOM OF PARADISE was indeed printed in Canada is about 1%. I'll say this 
is a US International poster. 

Helmut

www.filmposter.net


> Am 22.08.2016 um 17:27 schrieb filip de volder :
> 
> No, that's just nonsense. Movie posters are always referred to by the 
> geography where they are intended to be used, not where they were 
> manufactured. This is because, in most cases, it is impossible to determine 
> where a poster was manufactured. If the US studios started having some 
> posters made in China for use in the USA, nobody would call these "Chinese 
> movie posters." 


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Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

2016-08-22 Thread Tommy Barr
Just as a matter of interest I checked to see how HA and Bruce listed this,
and it appears that sometimes it is described as 'international' and
sometimes not, so seems nobody is quite sure what to call it.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Tommy Barr  wrote:

> Sorry, Filip, but I think Swanarchives is making a valid point.
> International one sheets, although mostly all printed in USA, are referred
> to as 'international', not 'U.S.'. The intended location for the display of
> a poster must surely be a prime consideration, regardless of where it was
> printed.
>
> Tommy
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:27 PM, filip de volder 
> wrote:
>
>> i  had this exchange on ebay with someone who really seems a bit of a
>> posterexpert regarding a pantom of the paradise 1sheet i have up :
>>
>>
>> Hi - this is not a US 1-sheet. This one was for the Canadian market. The
>> US 1-sheet would have the PG ("Parental Guidance") logo.
>>
>> - swanarchives
>>
>>
>> hi, it is a US one sheet , please use the zoom function to see bottom
>> details on the poster
>> filip
>>
>> - runbuffy
>>
>> I promise you, it is the Canadian version. National Screen Service
>> distributed the posters to both the USA and Canada. The USA version has the
>> PG logo in the lower left corner, like this one:
>> https://www.swanarchives.org/ImagePopup.asp?image=onesheetstylea_lrg.jpg
>> The Canadian version does not.
>>
>> - swanarchives
>>
>> hi, the poster was made in the usa therefor is a US poster , before the
>> 70s a lot of US 1 sheets were made for south america with the text in
>> spanish , that doesn't make the posters colombian or venezuelan , they were
>> american 1 sheets for the south american movie theaters so the phantom of
>> the paradise is an american poster for the canadian theaters , the poster
>> was not made in canada
>> thanks, filip
>>
>> - runbuffy
>>
>> No, that's just nonsense. Movie posters are always referred to by the
>> geography where they are intended to be used, not where they were
>> manufactured. This is because, in most cases, it is impossible to determine
>> where a poster was manufactured. If the US studios started having some
>> posters made in China for use in the USA, nobody would call these "Chinese
>> movie posters." A poster with Danish language intended for use in Denmark
>> would be called a "Danish movie poster," regardless where it was printed.
>> Good luck with your auction, though.
>>
>>
>> - swanarchives
>>
>>
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Re: [MOPO] Gentlemen Prefer Blondes one sheet wanted

2016-08-22 Thread Daniel Edward Kinske
Sure, here’s six of them—just hard to separate…

https://www.movieart.com/gentlemen-prefer-blondes-1953-14186/

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> 
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> 
> thx.
> sam
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Re: [MOPO] WTB: Goonies teaser poster

2016-08-22 Thread Daniel Edward Kinske
Cory,

Here’s another one, but I’m at my max posts for today, so you might want to try 
the Internet ;)

https://www.movieposterworks.com/products/copy-of-butch-cassidy-the-sundance-kid-1969-us-one-sheet-style-b-linenbacked

-d…

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> Please send photos and prices 
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Re: [MOPO] WTB: Goonies teaser poster

2016-08-22 Thread Daniel Edward Kinske
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/161369956628?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

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Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

2016-08-22 Thread Daniel Edward Kinske
Filip,

It is a good question, but I would tend to lean towards your summation. I think 
you can tell an overseas poster that was printed in the US by the artwork being 
exact. There are some posters that essentially copy the US artwork—I see that a 
lot with Hirschfeld’s work, which I guess is a form of flattery (and 
indolence.) 

I’ll see an “A Day at the Races” one sheet with the exact stone-litho US art 
and just the Spanish copy—it is usually the “Espana” posters, not something 
from Mexico, as those posters definitely vary from the US ones—and some 
variations are interesting, like the adding of color to artwork, that wasn’t 
color before, etc.

The “Phantom of the Paradise” is a cult-classic, so not surprised there are 
“experts” on the posters, but it is a strange beast as you have commercial 
posters that are odd sizes like 33x33” (see filmartgallery seller on eBay) and 
there is a one-sheet revised with new art released in 1975. It has the “PG 
Guidance” on it—I guess it is a bit scary to see a guy dressed like a bird on a 
mixing board climbing and crowing. 

As a seller, the bird seller Swan could be a little more polite—especially to a 
customer. It isn’t “nonsense” as their are validities to both statements and a 
difference in codification shouldn’t elicit consternation. 

I’ve seen US artwork on Belgian posters as well. There is a great example of a 
“What? No Beer!” Belgian poster (sold by eMovieposter) that has the same US 
stone-litho art of Buster Keaton and Jimmy Durante that are one the US 
three-sheet (Style “B”) and I’ve never seen the US three sheet, so sometimes if 
you want the US art, you need to look globally. 

That is why I like to pursue Benito’s yellowish orange website as he has 
examples of posters with US art that are US period, or examples of the 
aforementioned posters. He has a three sheet to “The Wizard of Oz” (Style “A”, 
not the elusive—but extant—Style “B”)

I would just take his “nonsense” advice, say thank you, and purchase 
elsewhere—from one who doesn’t live in a ivory palace or act like a phallus.

-d…
 
> On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:27 AM, filip de volder  wrote:
> 
> i  had this exchange on ebay with someone who really seems a bit of a 
> posterexpert regarding a pantom of the paradise 1sheet i have up :
> 
> Hi - this is not a US 1-sheet. This one was for the Canadian market. The US 
> 1-sheet would have the PG ("Parental Guidance") logo.
> 
> - swanarchives
> 
> 
> hi, it is a US one sheet , please use the zoom function to see bottom details 
> on the poster
> filip
> 
> - runbuffy
> 
> I promise you, it is the Canadian version. National Screen Service 
> distributed the posters to both the USA and Canada. The USA version has the 
> PG logo in the lower left corner, like this one: 
> https://www.swanarchives.org/ImagePopup.asp?image=onesheetstylea_lrg.jpg 
>  
> The Canadian version does not.
> 
> - swanarchives
> 
> hi, the poster was made in the usa therefor is a US poster , before the 70s a 
> lot of US 1 sheets were made for south america with the text in spanish , 
> that doesn't make the posters colombian or venezuelan , they were american 1 
> sheets for the south american movie theaters so the phantom of the paradise 
> is an american poster for the canadian theaters , the poster was not made in 
> canada 
> thanks, filip
> 
> - runbuffy
> 
> No, that's just nonsense. Movie posters are always referred to by the 
> geography where they are intended to be used, not where they were 
> manufactured. This is because, in most cases, it is impossible to determine 
> where a poster was manufactured. If the US studios started having some 
> posters made in China for use in the USA, nobody would call these "Chinese 
> movie posters." A poster with Danish language intended for use in Denmark 
> would be called a "Danish movie poster," regardless where it was printed. 
> Good luck with your auction, though.
> 
> 
> - swanarchives
> 
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[MOPO] Gentlemen Prefer Blondes one sheet wanted

2016-08-22 Thread Posteritati
Hi,

We are looking for a Gentlemen Prefer Blondes one sheet.

thx.
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[MOPO] WTB: Goonies teaser poster

2016-08-22 Thread Cory Glaberson
Looking for the map version of the Goonies poster
Please send photos and prices 
Thanks
Cory

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Re: [MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

2016-08-22 Thread Tommy Barr
Sorry, Filip, but I think Swanarchives is making a valid point.
International one sheets, although mostly all printed in USA, are referred
to as 'international', not 'U.S.'. The intended location for the display of
a poster must surely be a prime consideration, regardless of where it was
printed.

Tommy

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:27 PM, filip de volder 
wrote:

> i  had this exchange on ebay with someone who really seems a bit of a
> posterexpert regarding a pantom of the paradise 1sheet i have up :
>
>
> Hi - this is not a US 1-sheet. This one was for the Canadian market. The
> US 1-sheet would have the PG ("Parental Guidance") logo.
>
> - swanarchives
>
>
> hi, it is a US one sheet , please use the zoom function to see bottom
> details on the poster
> filip
>
> - runbuffy
>
> I promise you, it is the Canadian version. National Screen Service
> distributed the posters to both the USA and Canada. The USA version has the
> PG logo in the lower left corner, like this one:
> https://www.swanarchives.org/ImagePopup.asp?image=onesheetstylea_lrg.jpg
> The Canadian version does not.
>
> - swanarchives
>
> hi, the poster was made in the usa therefor is a US poster , before the
> 70s a lot of US 1 sheets were made for south america with the text in
> spanish , that doesn't make the posters colombian or venezuelan , they were
> american 1 sheets for the south american movie theaters so the phantom of
> the paradise is an american poster for the canadian theaters , the poster
> was not made in canada
> thanks, filip
>
> - runbuffy
>
> No, that's just nonsense. Movie posters are always referred to by the
> geography where they are intended to be used, not where they were
> manufactured. This is because, in most cases, it is impossible to determine
> where a poster was manufactured. If the US studios started having some
> posters made in China for use in the USA, nobody would call these "Chinese
> movie posters." A poster with Danish language intended for use in Denmark
> would be called a "Danish movie poster," regardless where it was printed.
> Good luck with your auction, though.
>
>
> - swanarchives
>
>
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[MOPO] do i babble nonsense ?

2016-08-22 Thread filip de volder
i  had this exchange on ebay with someone who really seems a bit of a 
posterexpert regarding a pantom of the paradise 1sheet i have up :


Hi - this is not a US 1-sheet. This one was for the Canadian market. The US 
1-sheet would have the PG ("Parental Guidance") logo.


- swanarchives



hi, it is a US one sheet , please use the zoom function to see bottom details 
on the poster
filip


- runbuffy


I promise you, it is the Canadian version. National Screen Service distributed 
the posters to both the USA and Canada. The USA version has the PG logo in the 
lower left corner, like this one: 
https://www.swanarchives.org/ImagePopup.asp?image=onesheetstylea_lrg.jpg The 
Canadian version does not.


- swanarchives


hi, the poster was made in the usa therefor is a US poster , before the 70s a 
lot of US 1 sheets were made for south america with the text in spanish , that 
doesn't make the posters colombian or venezuelan , they were american 1 sheets 
for the south american movie theaters so the phantom of the paradise is an 
american poster for the canadian theaters , the poster was not made in canada
thanks, filip


- runbuffy


No, that's just nonsense. Movie posters are always referred to by the geography 
where they are intended to be used, not where they were manufactured. This is 
because, in most cases, it is impossible to determine where a poster was 
manufactured. If the US studios started having some posters made in China for 
use in the USA, nobody would call these "Chinese movie posters." A poster with 
Danish language intended for use in Denmark would be called a "Danish movie 
poster," regardless where it was printed. Good luck with your auction, though.



- swanarchives


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