Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS!
I remember the last time someone around here swore their life on a statement. It was a restorer who swore on his life that the 1931 Dracula one-sheet then being offered by Profiles in History was an original. But if you like to offer 2-3x what posters are worth, I certainly hope you will remember to check out our auctions starting this weekend. - Original Message - From: Paul Waines To: Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1:25 AM Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729 I have the correct facts on this and would swear my life on it. The truth will eventually come out and be told to everyone. It's just a matter of time. People already know about it. Prior to last year you co-owed (w/ Heritage) or owned the paperbacked Phantom of the Opera One Sheet poster above and set up the trade for consignment plan with Ken Schacter right around the March 2011 Heritage Signature auction (he consigned many, many posters to this auction but some included the French Horror of Dracula, Fantastic Voyage Teaser, Vertigo 30 X 40 amongst many, many others). Many, Many other items were taken in by Heritage Auctions from Ken Schacter in exchange trading him “The Phantom of the Opera” One Sheet poster above. That is a cold hard fact. In that particular signature auction and others. Please do not try to deny this because last year you negotiated the plan for him to acquire “The Phantom of the Opera” poster above in exchange for consignments to Heritage Auctions (albeit Ken may have pestered you to the point and completely dragged you into this). The consignment deal for The Phantom of the Opera went through last year after taking many months time of Ken negotiating and speaking with you (Grey) over the phone. The deal took months to complete but in then end, Ken got the “Phantom of the Opera” poster from you (I have pictures of the poster hanging on Ken’s wall taken last year on my computer). After the deal went through you then personally flew out to Los Angeles and hand delivered The Phantom of the Opera paperbacked one sheet poster above to him. I also heard the poster was actually sitting in a vault in Los Angeles (or the Heritage offices) waiting on Ken to complete the deal. It went through and he got the poster. Again that is a bonafide cold hard fact (I have photos of Ken with the poster). Why you were there assisting the State of California and the trustee was EXTREMELY bizarre to say the least especially considering he consigned so much poster material through Heritage over the years. I guess this mutual relationship between you all explains why so many times over the years he’d sell through Heritage rather than sell directly to me even when I’d offer him 2X or 3X what a poster he was selling was worth. I'm not saying by any means that Heritage or “sign on the dotted line” Grey Smith knew what was going on, but Grey Smith representing “the state of California and Robert C. Mannheim” presents itself as a MAJOR conflict of interest because he took “bad consignments” from Ken Schacter in exchange for “The Phantom of the Opera” which was not on the truck (amongst other things) when marshalls hauled Ken’s stolen“movie material” off last Wednesday. - Original Message - From: Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: 05/03/12 09:16 PM To: Paul Waines Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Where ever you’re getting your facts, you should do a little bit better fact checking! You obviously have some very poor sources. From: Paul Waines [mailto:pwaine...@gmx.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 8:03 PM To: Smith, Grey - 1367 Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Didn't the vast majority of Heritage's movie poster consignments come from Ken Schacter over the last few years? http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729 For example didn't Ken swing a $200,000 or $300,000 trade with Heritage last year in exchange for this paperbacked One Sheet for The Phantom of the Opera that is shown above and was hauled off last Wednesday? I heard Ken gave them consignments for their Signature auctions in exchange for this one Phantom of the Opera poster over a gradual period of time dating back to a least the last couple of years. That is a fact. Another California collector told me that a motherload of these items were in Heritage's 2011 March Dallas Signature auction. That also is a fact. Wouldn't this be a major confict of interest if Heritage were given the opportunity to sell on behalf of the Trustee if they were tied into this? That is taking in dirty consigments from someone who didn't have a clean title on them or was using laundered money? -P -Original Message- From
Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS!
Sean, you just forwarded a note to the MoPo group that was never posted PUBLICLY to the MoPo group. This is the first time I've seen this exchange between Grey and Paul Waines. Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 03:57:42 -0400 From: s...@platinumposters.com Subject: Re: METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I remember the last time someone around here swore their life on a statement. It was a restorer who swore on his life that the 1931 Dracula one-sheet then being offered by Profiles in History was an original. But if you like to offer 2-3x what posters are worth, I certainly hope you will remember to check out our auctions starting this weekend. - Original Message - From: Paul Waines To: Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1:25 AM Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729 I have the correct facts on this and would swear my life on it. The truth will eventually come out and be told to everyone. It's just a matter of time. People already know about it. Prior to last year you co-owed (w/ Heritage) or owned the paperbacked Phantom of the Opera One Sheet poster above and set up the trade for consignment plan with Ken Schacter right around the March 2011 Heritage Signature auction (he consigned many, many posters to this auction but some included the French Horror of Dracula, Fantastic Voyage Teaser, Vertigo 30 X 40 amongst many, many others). Many, Many other items were taken in by Heritage Auctions from Ken Schacter in exchange trading him “The Phantom of the Opera” One Sheet poster above. That is a cold hard fact. In that particular signature auction and others. Please do not try to deny this because last year you negotiated the plan for him to acquire “The Phantom of the Opera” poster above in exchange for consignments to Heritage Auctions (albeit Ken may have pestered you to the point and completely dragged you into this). The consignment deal for The Phantom of the Opera went through last year after taking many months time of Ken negotiating and speaking with you (Grey) over the phone. The deal took months to complete but in then end, Ken got the “Phantom of the Opera” poster from you (I have pictures of the poster hanging on Ken’s wall taken last year on my computer). After the deal went through you then personally flew out to Los Angeles and hand delivered The Phantom of the Opera paperbacked one sheet poster above to him. I also heard the poster was actually sitting in a vault in Los Angeles (or the Heritage offices) waiting on Ken to complete the deal. It went through and he got the poster. Again that is a bonafide cold hard fact (I have photos of Ken with the poster). Why you were there assisting the State of California and the trustee was EXTREMELY bizarre to say the least especially considering he consigned so much poster material through Heritage over the years. I guess this mutual relationship between you all explains why so many times over the years he’d sell through Heritage rather than sell directly to me even when I’d offer him 2X or 3X what a poster he was selling was worth. I'm not saying by any means that Heritage or “sign on the dotted line” Grey Smith knew what was going on, but Grey Smith representing “the state of California and Robert C. Mannheim” presents itself as a MAJOR conflict of interest because he took “bad consignments” from Ken Schacter in exchange for “The Phantom of the Opera” which was not on the truck (amongst other things) when marshalls hauled Ken’s stolen“movie material” off last Wednesday. - Original Message - From: Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: 05/03/12 09:16 PM To: Paul Waines Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Where ever you’re getting your facts, you should do a little bit better fact checking! You obviously have some very poor sources. - Original Message - From: Paul Waines [mailto:pwaine...@gmx.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 8:03 PM To: Smith, Grey - 1367 Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Didn't the vast majority of Heritage's movie poster consignments come from Ken Schacter over the last few years? http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729 For example didn't Ken swing a $200,000 or $300,000 trade with Heritage last year in exchange for this paperbacked One Sheet for The Phantom of the Opera that is shown above and was hauled off last Wednesday? I heard Ken gave them consignments for their Signature auctions in exchange for this one Phantom of the Opera poster over a gradual period of time dating back to a least the last couple of years. That is a fact. Another California collector told me that a motherload of these items were
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Crikey, it seems that the hobby can't operate without some kind of ongoing scandal. I really hope this situation can be resolved without another major firestorm %/ Neil From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, 4 May 2012, 9:17 Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Sean, you just forwarded a note to the MoPo group that was never posted PUBLICLY to the MoPo group. This is the first time I've seen this exchange between Grey and Paul Waines. Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 03:57:42 -0400 From: s...@platinumposters.com Subject: Re: METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I remember the last time someone around here swore their life on a statement. It was a restorer who swore on his life that the 1931 Dracula one-sheet then being offered by Profiles in History was an original. But if you like to offer 2-3x what posters are worth, I certainly hope you will remember to check out our auctions starting this weekend. - Original Message - From: Paul Waines To: Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1:25 AM Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729 I have the correct facts on this and would swear my life on it. The truth will eventually come out and be told to everyone. It's just a matter of time. People already know about it. Prior to last year you co-owed (w/ Heritage) or owned the paperbacked Phantom of the Opera One Sheet poster above and set up the trade for consignment plan with Ken Schacter right around the March 2011 Heritage Signature auction (he consigned many, many posters to this auction but some included the French Horror of Dracula, Fantastic Voyage Teaser, Vertigo 30 X 40 amongst many, many others). Many, Many other items were taken in by Heritage Auctions from Ken Schacter in exchange trading him “The Phantom of the Opera” One Sheet poster above. That is a cold hard fact. In that particular signature auction and others. Please do not try to deny this because last year you negotiated the plan for him to acquire “The Phantom of the Opera” poster above in exchange for consignments to Heritage Auctions (albeit Ken may have pestered you to the point and completely dragged you into this). The consignment deal for The Phantom of the Opera went through last year after taking many months time of Ken negotiating and speaking with you (Grey) over the phone. The deal took months to complete but in then end, Ken got the “Phantom of the Opera” poster from you (I have pictures of the poster hanging on Ken’s wall taken last year on my computer). After the deal went through you then personally flew out to Los Angeles and hand delivered The Phantom of the Opera paperbacked one sheet poster above to him. I also heard the poster was actually sitting in a vault in Los Angeles (or the Heritage offices) waiting on Ken to complete the deal. It went through and he got the poster. Again that is a bonafide cold hard fact (I have photos of Ken with the poster). Why you were there assisting the State of California and the trustee was EXTREMELY bizarre to say the least especially considering he consigned so much poster material through Heritage over the years. I guess this mutual relationship between you all explains why so many times over the years he’d sell through Heritage rather than sell directly to me even when I’d offer him 2X or 3X what a poster he was selling was worth. I'm not saying by any means that Heritage or “sign on the dotted line” Grey Smith knew what was going on, but Grey Smith representing “the state of California and Robert C. Mannheim” presents itself as a MAJOR conflict of interest because he took “bad consignments” from Ken Schacter in exchange for “The Phantom of the Opera” which was not on the truck (amongst other things) when marshalls hauled Ken’s stolen“movie material” off last Wednesday. - Original Message - From: Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: 05/03/12 09:16 PM To: Paul Waines Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Where ever you’re getting your facts, you should do a little bit better fact checking! You obviously have some very poor sources. - Original Message - From: Paul Waines [mailto:pwaine...@gmx.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 8:03 PM To: Smith, Grey - 1367 Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Didn't the vast majority of Heritage's movie poster consignments come from Ken Schacter over the last few years? http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729 For example didn't Ken swing a $200,000 or $300,000 trade with Heritage last year in exchange for this paperbacked One Sheet for The Phantom of the Opera that is shown above and was hauled off last Wednesday? I heard
Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS!
Grey Smith and Heritage auctions are NOT the bad guy here. They are one of the primary experts in our field. Therefore, it is logical for a legal firm to request their assistance. I can tell you for a fact that Grey was very helpful in piecing together the Haggard plot. I am grateful for Grey's expertise in our hobby. And, if I was having problems with someone, he is the expert I would try to obtain to secure posters. I have no idea what the arrangement was, but lets not villainize the guy trying to keep our hobby on track. In a hobby that seems to have increasing problems, I can tell you Grey is one of the good guys here. Jim Gresham On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Sean Linkenback s...@platinumposters.comwrote: ** I remember the last time someone around here swore their life on a statement. It was a restorer who swore on his life that the 1931 Dracula one-sheet then being offered by Profiles in History was an original. But if you like to offer 2-3x what posters are worth, I certainly hope you will remember to check out our auctions starting this weekend. - Original Message - *From:* Paul Waines pwaine...@gmx.com *To:* Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com *Sent:* Friday, May 04, 2012 1:25 AM *Subject:* RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729 *I have the correct facts on this and would swear my life on it*. The truth will eventually come out and be told to everyone. It's just a matter of time. People already know about it. Prior to last year you co-owed (w/ Heritage) or owned the paperbacked Phantom of the Opera One Sheet poster above and set up the trade for consignment plan with Ken Schacter right around the March 2011 Heritage Signature auction (he consigned many, many posters to this auction but some included the French Horror of Dracula, Fantastic Voyage Teaser, Vertigo 30 X 40 amongst many, many others). Many, Many other items were taken in by Heritage Auctions from Ken Schacter in exchange trading him “The Phantom of the Opera” One Sheet poster above. That is a cold hard fact. In that particular signature auction and others. Please do not try to deny this because last year you negotiated the plan for him to acquire “The Phantom of the Opera” poster above in exchange for consignments to Heritage Auctions (albeit Ken may have pestered you to the point and completely dragged you into this). The consignment deal for The Phantom of the Opera went through last year after taking many months time of Ken negotiating and speaking with you (Grey) over the phone. The deal took months to complete but in then end, Ken got the “Phantom of the Opera” poster from you (I have pictures of the poster hanging on Ken’s wall taken last year on my computer). After the deal went through you then personally flew out to Los Angeles and hand delivered The Phantom of the Opera paperbacked one sheet poster above to him. I also heard the poster was actually sitting in a vault in Los Angeles (or the Heritage offices) waiting on Ken to complete the deal. It went through and he got the poster. Again that is a bonafide cold hard fact (I have photos of Ken with the poster). Why you were there assisting the State of California and the trustee was EXTREMELY bizarre to say the least especially considering he consigned so much poster material through Heritage over the years. *I guess this mutual relationship between you all explains why so many times over the years he’d sell through Heritage rather than sell directly to me even when I’d offer him 2X or 3X what a poster he was selling was worth.* I'm not saying by any means that Heritage or “sign on the dotted line” Grey Smith knew what was going on, but Grey Smith representing “the state of California and Robert C. Mannheim” presents itself as a MAJOR conflict of interest because he took “bad consignments” from Ken Schacter in exchange for “The Phantom of the Opera” which was not on the truck (amongst other things) when marshalls hauled Ken’s stolen“movie material” off last Wednesday. - Original Message - From: Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: 05/03/12 09:16 PM To: Paul Waines Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Where ever you’re getting your facts, you should do a little bit better fact checking! You obviously have some very poor sources. *From:* Paul Waines [mailto:pwaine...@gmx.com] *Sent:* Thursday, May 03, 2012 8:03 PM *To:* Smith, Grey - 1367 *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Didn't the vast majority of Heritage's movie poster consignments come from Ken Schacter over the last few years? http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729lang=en For example didn't Ken swing a $200,000 or $300,000 trade with Heritage last
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Agree as well -Original Message- From: Doug Taylor douglasbtay...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Fri, May 4, 2012 8:20 am Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Ditto. Regards, DBT From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 10:46 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Agreed. Completely. Kirby Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On May 4, 2012, at 7:48 AM, James Gresham wrote: Grey Smith and Heritage auctions are NOT the bad guy here. They are one of the primary experts in our field. Therefore, it is logical for a legal firm to request their assistance. I can tell you for a fact that Grey was very helpful in piecing together the Haggard plot. I am grateful for Grey's expertise in our hobby. And, if I was having problems with someone, he is the expert I would try to obtain to secure posters. I have no idea what the arrangement was, but lets not villainize the guy trying to keep our hobby on track. In a hobby that seems to have increasing problems, I can tell you Grey is one of the good guys here. Jim GreshamOn Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Sean Linkenback lt;s...@platinumposters.comgt; wrote:I remember the last time someone around here swore their life on a statement. It was a restorer who swore on his life that the 1931 Dracula one-sheet then being offered by Profiles in History was an original. But if you like to offer 2-3x what posters are worth, I certainly hope you will remember to check out our auctions starting this weekend. - Original Message - From: Paul Waines To: Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1:25 AM Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695amp;lotNo=85729I have the correct facts on this and would swear my life on it. The truth will eventually come out and be told to everyone. It's just a matter of time. People already know about it. Prior to last year you co-owed (w/ Heritage) or owned the paperbacked Phantom of the Opera One Sheet poster above and set up the trade for consignment plan with Ken Schacter right around the March 2011 Heritage Signature auction (he consigned many, many posters to this auction but some included the French Horror of Dracula, Fantastic Voyage Teaser, Vertigo 30 X 40 amongst many, many others). Many, Many other items were taken in by Heritage Auctions from Ken Schacter in exchange trading him “The Phantom of the Opera” One Sheet poster above. That is a cold hard fact. In that particular signature auction and others. Please do not try to deny this because last year you negotiated the plan for him to acquire “The Phantom of the Opera” poster above in exchange for consignments to Heritage Auctions (albeit Ken may have pestered you to the point and completely dragged you into this). The consignment deal for The Phantom of the Opera went through last year after taking many months time of Ken negotiating and speaking with you (Grey) over the phone. The deal took months to complete but in then end, Ken got the “Phantom of the Opera” poster from you (I have pictures of the poster hanging on Ken’s wall taken last year on my computer). After the deal went through you then personally flew out to Los Angeles and hand delivered The Phantom of the Opera paperbacked one sheet poster above to him. I also heard the poster was actually sitting in a vault in Los Angeles (or the Heritage offices) waiting on Ken to complete the deal. It went through and he got the poster. Again that is a bonafide cold hard fact (I have photos of Ken with the poster). Why you were there assisting the State of California and the trustee was EXTREMELY bizarre to say the least especially considering he consigned so much poster material through Heritage over the years. I guess this mutual relationship between you all explains why so many times over the years he’d sell through Heritage rather than sell directly to me even when I’d offer him 2X or 3X what a poster he was selling was worth. I'm not saying by any means that Heritage or “sign on the dotted line” Grey Smith knew what was going on, but Grey Smith representing “the state of California and Robert C. Mannheim” presents itself as a MAJOR conflict of interest because he took “bad consignments” from Ken Schacter in exchange for “The Phantom of the Opera” which was not on the truck (amongst other things) when marshalls hauled Ken’s stolen“movie material” off last Wednesday. - Original Message - From: Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: 05/03/12 09:16 PM To: Paul Waines Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Where ever you’re getting your facts, you should do a little bit better
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I really don't understand why anyone would doubt that Grey could be a neutral, uninvolved agent in the job that was before him on 4/25 the facts are that movie posters is a very small business and that most dealers know most other dealers, especially if you've been doing them as long as Grey has. Who else would be up for this particular job?? Would Bruce do it? I don't think he could take the time. Sean or Peter couldn't do it because they are (or should I say were) too close to Ken to be involved. Morrie Everett? I can't see Morrie wanting to bother.. Joe Maddalena, Ron Borst, Larry Edmonds I mean, who could be available, would be available for the price and be acceptable due to the knowledge needed?? It really is a very very very short list and considering that Grey is an extremely fair-minded person, I think it would have been very difficult for My Mannheim to find a better suited individual for the work. Rich At 09:50 AM 5/4/2012, peter contarino wrote: Grey was there, as a top expert in the field, to authenticate the material, plain and simple. I doubt it was pleasurable experience for him. Peter From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of John Waldman Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 12:15 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Grey is indeed a class act. Mr Schacter on the the other hand is a case of don't judge a book by it's cover. Who would think by looking at the guy that he could put together a $200,000. - 300,000. deal? JW From: Kirby McDaniel mailto:ki...@movieart.netki...@movieart.net To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Agreed. Completely. Kirby Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 http://www.movieart.net/www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On May 4, 2012, at 7:48 AM, James Gresham wrote: Grey Smith and Heritage auctions are NOT the bad guy here. They are one of the primary experts in our field. Therefore, it is logical for a legal firm to request their assistance. I can tell you for a fact that Grey was very helpful in piecing together the Haggard plot. I am grateful for Grey's expertise in our hobby. And, if I was having problems with someone, he is the expert I would try to obtain to secure posters. I have no idea what the arrangement was, but lets not villainize the guy trying to keep our hobby on track. In a hobby that seems to have increasing problems, I can tell you Grey is one of the good guys here. Jim Gresham On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Sean Linkenback mailto:s...@platinumposters.coms...@platinumposters.com wrote: I remember the last time someone around here swore their life on a statement. It was a restorer who swore on his life that the 1931 Dracula one-sheet then being offered by Profiles in History was an original. But if you like to offer 2-3x what posters are worth, I certainly hope you will remember to check out our auctions starting this weekend. - Original Message - From: mailto:pwaine...@gmx.comPaul Waines To: mailto:gre...@ha.comSmith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 1:25 AM Subject: RE: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=695lotNo=85729 I have the correct facts on this and would swear my life on it. The truth will eventually come out and be told to everyone. It's just a matter of time. People already know about it. Prior to last year you co-owed (w/ Heritage) or owned the paperbacked Phantom of the Opera One Sheet poster above and set up the trade for consignment plan with Ken Schacter right around the March 2011 Heritage Signature auction (he consigned many, many posters to this auction but some included the French Horror of Dracula, Fantastic Voyage Teaser, Vertigo 30 X 40 amongst many, many others). Many, Many other items were taken in by Heritage Auctions from Ken Schacter in exchange trading him âThe Phantom of the Operaâ One Sheet poster above. That is a cold hard fact. In that particular signature auction and others. Please do not try to deny this because last year you negotiated the plan for him to acquire âThe Phantom of the Operaâ poster above in exchange for consignments to Heritage Auctions (albeit Ken may have pestered you to the point and completely dragged you into this). The consignment deal for The Phantom of the Opera went through last year after taking many months time of Ken negotiating and speaking with you (Grey) over the phone. The deal took months to complete but in then end, Ken got the âPhantom of the Operaâ poster from you (I have pictures of the poster hanging on Kenâs wall taken last year on my computer). After the deal went
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David is correct, My response to Paul Waines this morning was a reply to what I thought had been a public posting and I was trying to tell him to be sure of what you are saying before you bet your life on something (as even the small amount of facts he posted are incorrect). If I had realized it was a private message that I had been forwarded I would not have responded at all. I still do not know Paul's reasons for sending me a copy of conversation between he and Grey, nor do I know of his reasons for hiding behind an alias. When Peter and I first envisioned Movie Poster Exchange over a year ago, we initially included Ken in our plans because of his prior relationship with Peter from Majestic Posters. During the course of the year, Ken was unable to be involved with the site as we had originally planned and the business was/is organized with Peter and me as the sole shareholders. At the time, Peter and I were unaware of any of Ken's legal problems (and I can't blame him as I am sure no one wishes for this sort of thing to surface), we assumed that life as a newly single father and other time demands were pulling his interests away from ours and amicably split. Ken later approached us about featuring the Metropolis poster on our website during our launch, and Peter was actually opposed to this, feeling (correctly) that we have built a sound business model and a fantastic site that will be able to stand on it's own. But the price was reasonable based on its prior sale and it did allow us to take advantage of some publicity opportunities we may not have had otherwise, so Peter relented and we did spotlight the poster. Peter and I first became aware of potential problems with the poster in an email that was sent to us (and copied to Bruce, Sotheby's, Christie's, and others) dated March 25th. I quickly called and spoke with the trustee where I was assured that we were allowed to continue to accept offers on the poster, but Peter and I decided to remove it from the site so that focus could shift to the hundreds of other great items listed for sale by our consignors and our upcoming auctions (starting Sunday May 6th if you don't recall) on www.MoviePosterExchange.com Grey was hired by the trustee to assist the Federal Government in the recovery of assets in this case. It does not mean that Heritage has anything else to do with the case, and Grey certainly was not representing the State of California or Robert Mannheim. It is up to the Federal District Court to decide what is best to do, not Grey, not myself, not the creditors, or anyone else. But considering the quality of Ken's collection, if it (or portions) are made available for sale, I would not be surprised if Heritage, Paul Waines (who apparently wants to pay double to triple value for items), or any number of other parties, express interest in it's content. - Original Message - From: David Kusumoto To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! * This latest saga explains why I, like many others perhaps, suffer from occasional MoPo fatigue. It's too f draining. I have a day job totally UNRELATED to posters. And just now, my first time online today, I discover more than a dozen private messages in my inbox asking me to analyze what just happened with Sean's posting of the so-called private e-mail exchange between Grey and Paul Waines. Guys, I don't have the answers nor do I understand Sean's motives posting this (perhaps it was an accident) - nor do I understand the motives of Paul Waines other than he's obviously steamed at Heritage while presenting his facts in a way that's meant to be READ by the public. Grey is an upstanding and honest guy who I PERSONALLY know and like. With his personality and demeanor, I often wonder what could POSSIBLY make some individuals want to drive a stake through his big Texas heart. * Note that I put quotes around the name, Paul Waines - and also around the word, facts. I'm always skeptical of the credibility of people who won't sign their names to their opinions - OR - who use an alias that sounds too similar to a REAL person. Paul Waines is NOT the same Paul Waines associated with the All Poster Forum. The real Paul Waines is in the U.K. with a logistical inability to be on scene with all that's detailed in the notes below sent to Grey. What's the fallout to signing your real name? Truth is the best defense in a libel case, and everything that's couched as an opinion is protected. * It's my view that the Waines cited below is an alias for someone in the U.S. Why? Because over the past few days, the alias Waines has been blind-copying several MoPo members with his posts. He obviously feels he has something to lose by revealing himself. I only get curious, 1) if I have time, WHICH ON MOST DAYS I DON'T, and, 2) if I do have time, if I can
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One heckuva way to find out. BTW ... who owns midsystems.com? ad From: glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Folks-Anyone wishing to know the whereabouts of the Metropolis three-sheet ( Movie Poster Exchange's former silent partner) should go to www.midsystems.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Whoever it is doesn't know how to spell Inventory. Looks like somebody ain't too fond of K.S. I thought it was a joke at first... In a message dated 5/3/2012 7:05:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, aday_5...@yahoo.com writes: One heckuva way to find out. BTW ... who owns midsystems.com? ad From: glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Folks-Anyone wishing to know the whereabouts of the Metropolis three-sheet ( Movie Poster Exchange's former silent partner) should go to _www.midsystems.com_ (http://www.midsystems.com/) Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at _www.filmfan.com_ (http://www.filmfan.com/) ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: _listserv@listserv.american.edu_ (mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu) In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Gavelsnipe? -Original Message- From: allen day [mailto:aday_5...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:05 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! One heckuva way to find out. BTW ... who owns midsystems.com? ad From: glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Folks-Anyone wishing to know the whereabouts of the Metropolis three-sheet ( Movie Poster Exchange's former silent partner) should go to www.midsystems.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: listserv@listserv.american.eduIn the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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A fellow named Mannheim owns the site, fellas. He was the victim of the "alleged" fraud-Original Message- From: Sean Linkenback <s...@platinumposters.com> Sent: May 3, 2012 10:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Gavelsnipe? -Original Message-From: allen day [mailto:aday_5...@yahoo.com]Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:05 AMTo: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUSubject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS!One heckuva way to find out.BTW ... who owns midsystems.com?adFrom: glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Folks-Anyone wishing to know the whereabouts of the "Metropolis" three-sheet ( Movie Poster Exchange's former "silent" partner) should go to www.midsystems.comVisit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Is that Grey standing in the background? Please visit our website: www.mpagallery.com 90 Oak St. E. Rutherford, NJ 07073 201-635-1444 - Original Message - From: allen day To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! One heckuva way to find out. BTW ... who owns midsystems.com? ad -- From: glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Folks-Anyone wishing to know the whereabouts of the Metropolis three-sheet ( Movie Poster Exchange's former silent partner) should go to www.midsystems.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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In my view, it's pretty humiliating for everyone involved. The contempt of court hearing in two weeks should be interesting, though I'm not sure if it'll determine who the bankruptcy trustee will give first dibs to steward Metropolis to a buyer with no prior connection to K.S. Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:02:42 -0400 From: glenndam...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU A fellow named Mannheim owns the site, fellas. He was the victim of the alleged fraud -Original Message- From: Sean Linkenback Sent: May 3, 2012 10:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Gavelsnipe? -Original Message- From: allen day [mailto:aday_5...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 10:05 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! One heckuva way to find out. BTW ... who owns midsystems.com? ad From: glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Folks-Anyone wishing to know the whereabouts of the Metropolis three-sheet ( Movie Poster Exchange's former silent partner) should go to www.midsystems.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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That's what I was wondering, too. It looks like him. -KL On 5/3/12, Joe Burtis jbur...@mpagallery.com wrote: Is that Grey standing in the background? Please visit our website: www.mpagallery.com 90 Oak St. E. Rutherford, NJ 07073 201-635-1444 - Original Message - From: allen day To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! One heckuva way to find out. BTW ... who owns midsystems.com? ad -- From: glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Folks-Anyone wishing to know the whereabouts of the Metropolis three-sheet ( Movie Poster Exchange's former silent partner) should go to www.midsystems.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Ha-ha! You know I think Kenny, despite his smart-ass flip-the-bird gesture, can't really be thrilled that Grey is there, hence I'd surmise Heritage got the honors to turn Metropolis and what's left of his collection into cash, with a check cut to the trustee afterwards to distribute to Kenny's creditors. I'm kind of glad but I wonder how much more stuff he's got stashed away? Jeez, what a weird guy. -d. -Original Message- Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:43:40 -0400 From: glenndam...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Grey, you photographed rather well... -Original Message- From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com Sent: May 3, 2012 4:40 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Yes, this is yours truly. There on the behalf of the State of California and its trustee. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of lovenoir2 Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 3:36 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! That's what I was wondering, too. It looks like him. -KL On 5/3/12, Joe Burtis jburtis@mpagallery.comwrote: Is that Grey standing in the background? Please visit our website: www.mpagallery.com 90 Oak St. E. Rutherford, NJ 07073 201-635-1444 -Original Message- Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 13:28:33 -0700 From: davidmkusum...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU In my view, it's pretty humiliating for everyone involved. The contempt of court hearing in two weeks should be interesting, though I'm not sure if it'll determine who the bankruptcy trustee will give first dibs to steward Metropolis to a buyer with no prior connection to K.S. -Original Message- Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 11:02:42 -0400 From: glenndam...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU A fellow named Mannheim owns the site, fellas. He was the victim of the alleged fraud -Original Message- From: Sean Linkenback Sent: May 3, 2012 10:56 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Gavelsnipe? - Original Message - From: allen day To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! One heckuva way to find out. BTW ... who owns midsystems.com? ad - Original Message - From: glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:36 AM Subject: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! Folks-Anyone wishing to know the whereabouts of the Metropolis three-sheet ( Movie Poster Exchange's former silent partner) should go to www.midsystems.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Sweet Jiminy Cricket, memorabilia inventory and display system? Is this whole thing about a frame? I'll stick with Sue for all my framing, thank you very much. Note to self: Don't stiff MidiSystems... --- On Thu, 5/3/12, glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net wrote: From: glenndamato glenndam...@earthlink.net Subject: [MOPO] METROPOLIS THREE-SHEET WHEREABOUTS! To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 6:36 AM Folks-Anyone wishing to know the whereabouts of the Metropolis three-sheet ( Movie Poster Exchange's former silent partner) should go to www.midsystems.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
