Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-16 Thread luminita hascalovitz

Hi All,

 

On a related note, if you ever get the opportunity to screen "Electric 
Edwardians" I strongly recommend it. Amazing footage:

 

http://movies.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/movies/12elec.html
 

Take Care,

 

Lumi

 

 

 

 



Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:19:50 -0700
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If you were going out on date, the men had to wear a suit even if it was very 
hot outside. The men had to ask their date if they could take off their jackets 
too cool off.

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Phil Edwards  wrote:

From: Phil Edwards 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:54 AM

I have family photos from the 1930s up to pre-war WW2 and there's the whole
family out on a picnic, and all the men are wearing suits.

Even picnics were "going out" and people "dressed" to go
out.

Hats were de rigeur, just as were ties.

We were talking about BRIEF ENCOUNTER a week or so ago.
 Take a look at that for
standard British dress, even at home during the period.

Fascinating stuff, the cinema, as an historical record of fashion, social mores
etc.

My mother's eyebrows never did grow back completely properly after she
plucked them in the early 1930s because the pencil line eyebrow on women was a
major cosmetic fashion statement, mostly fronted by Hollywood.

No wonder Oliver Reed insisted he had a susbtantial insurance policy when he
shot THE DEVILS for Ken Russell and agreed to have his eyebows shaved as part of
the fiery climax of the film... that his eyebrows would grow back after filming.

Phil

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> Amazing how many men wore a suit, interesting to see
 who actually
wasn't wearing one and what they were wearing instead. Hats as well, how
many different ones can you spot.
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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-14 Thread Roland Lataille
If you were going out on date, the men had to wear a suit even if it was very 
hot outside. The men had to ask their date if they could take off their jackets 
too cool off.

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Phil Edwards  wrote:
From: Phil Edwards 
Subject: Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:54 AM

I have family photos from the 1930s up to pre-war WW2 and there's the whole
family out on a picnic, and all the men are wearing suits.

Even picnics were "going out" and people "dressed" to go
out.

Hats were de rigeur, just as were ties.

We were talking about BRIEF ENCOUNTER a week or so ago. Take a look at that for
standard British dress, even at home during the period.

Fascinating stuff, the cinema, as an historical record of fashion, social mores
etc.

My mother's eyebrows never did grow back completely properly after she
plucked them in the early 1930s because the pencil line eyebrow on women was a
major cosmetic fashion statement, mostly fronted by Hollywood.

No wonder Oliver Reed insisted he had a susbtantial insurance policy when he
shot THE DEVILS for Ken Russell and agreed to have his eyebows shaved as part of
the fiery climax of the film... that his eyebrows would grow back after filming.

Phil

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Subject: Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films


> Amazing how many men wore a suit, interesting to see who actually
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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-13 Thread Michael B


We were talking about BRIEF ENCOUNTER a week or so ago. Take a look at that for 
standard British dress, even at home during the period.




BRIEF ENCOUNTER is an awesome film to see:? british railways, movie theatre, 
restaurants (even what was ordered to eat), streets/traffic, small 
home..and just great period themes.?


michael

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Subject: Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films


I have family photos from the 1930s up to pre-war WW2 and there's the whole 
family out on a picnic, and all the men are wearing suits.?
?
Even picnics were "going out" and people "dressed" to go out.?
?
Hats were de rigeur, just as were ties.?
?
We were talking about BRIEF ENCOUNTER a week or so ago. Take a look at that for 
standard British dress, even at home during the period.?
?
Fascinating stuff, the cinema, as an historical record of fashion, social mores 
etc.?
?
My mother's eyebrows never did grow back completely properly after she plucked 
them in the early 1930s because the pencil line eyebrow on women was a major 
cosmetic fashion statement, mostly fronted by Hollywood.?
?
No wonder Oliver Reed insisted he had a susbtantial insurance policy when he 
shot THE DEVILS for Ken Russell and agreed to have his eyebows shaved as part 
of the fiery climax of the film... that his eyebrows would grow back after 
filming.?
?
Phil?
?
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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-13 Thread Phil Edwards
I have family photos from the 1930s up to pre-war WW2 and there's the whole 
family out on a picnic, and all the men are wearing suits.


Even picnics were "going out" and people "dressed" to go out.

Hats were de rigeur, just as were ties.

We were talking about BRIEF ENCOUNTER a week or so ago. Take a look at that 
for standard British dress, even at home during the period.


Fascinating stuff, the cinema, as an historical record of fashion, social 
mores etc.


My mother's eyebrows never did grow back completely properly after she 
plucked them in the early 1930s because the pencil line eyebrow on women was 
a major cosmetic fashion statement, mostly fronted by Hollywood.


No wonder Oliver Reed insisted he had a susbtantial insurance policy when he 
shot THE DEVILS for Ken Russell and agreed to have his eyebows shaved as 
part of the fiery climax of the film... that his eyebrows would grow back 
after filming.


Phil

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Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films


Amazing how many men wore a suit, interesting to see who actually wasn't 
wearing one and what they were wearing instead. Hats as well, how many 
different ones can you spot.


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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-13 Thread JANET ORAM
Amazing how many men wore a suit, interesting to see who actually wasn't 
wearing one and what they were wearing instead. Hats as well, how many 
different ones can you spot.


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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-13 Thread Paul Gerrard
 
Yes I love those small historical details like seeing which  
shops/fashion/food were popular at the time. Suits and ties and cigarettes  
certainly, but 
don't forget all the hats! Funnily enough, if a movie theatre  shows up, I 
always strain my eyes trying to spot the posters. Thank God for  DVDs where 
you can get a decent paused image (also handy for the tight-sweatered  
ladies).
As for technology, not actually a location shot but one of my favourites  
is Mike Hammer's cutting edge answering machine in Kiss Me Deadly -  
basically a big shiny wall-mounted reel-to-reel tape machine with all the  
associated whirring and clunking. I want one.
The further back you go, the more I'm amazed at how cameramen  actually 
achieved some of the more extreme location shots, given how  cumbersome the 
early equipment was, and how much light was needed to keep  things in focus. 
Strapped to cars, dangling off tall  buildings, sitting in small boats in 
choppy seas. Of  course, camera trickery was rife - editing, back  projection, 
undercranking etc - but not always. I was watching Hitchcock's  silent The 
Ring over the weekend, where he appears to have placed a camera in a  
fairground ride for a brief shot, but then even some of the pioneers from  the 
very 
early 1900s experimented with such things.
 
Paul
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In a message dated 13/05/2009 01:48:55 GMT Daylight Time,  
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I like  that question.  Personally I love looking at vintage gadgets such 
as old  radios, phonographs as well as the cars and bikes.  I also love 
catching  scenes of old theatres themselves especially during the days of the 
huge  extravagent palaces when everyone went to the movies in suit and tie.   
When the theatre was a getaway itself as much as the film.  I like to see  
the old ice cream shops just as much.  I always say I was born in the  wrong 
time but I know I could never jump in a 'way-back' machine and live then  
after living with what I have now.  I could live without phones and fast  cars 
but I really need my internet :-) .


 

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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-12 Thread Richard Halegua Comic Art

my co-focus is the cinematography and camera movement

so cinematographers like Russell Metty, Greg Toland, Rudolph Mate, 
Karl Freund and Winton Hoch really hit my buttons..


Robert  Surtees and his son Bruce are also photographers making 
excellent use of the camera


there are many others.

These days, too many cinematographers use these ultra-tight shots to 
make the star's faces more intense, and they also like to make too 
much use of dark lighting and dark filters. In Dark Knight.. did you 
ever see the Sun pop out???


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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-12 Thread Tom A. Pennock
This really is not older films but 1960 tv shows. I watch a  lot of the 
Andy Griffith Shows and just recently saw a person of color on there  for the 
first time I have watched it. Maybe as I progress through the series I  will 
see more things. Also I have never EVER seen it RAIN in Mayberry? Does it  
EVER rain there? Also in the jail where is the bathroom in the  cell?
 
--Tom Pennock 
 
In a message dated 5/12/2009 9:55:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
p...@cinemarts.com writes:

No  question that seing older (and the older the better) films that use  
locatiom shooting, how often one sees the general public standing around  
in 
the background gawping at filming going on.

It's like  spectacular car chases in films where there appears to be almost 
no other  major traffic to get in the way.

RONIN was a fun film of the old school  in many ways, but as well edited as 
the car chase is, where are all the  other cars?

Phil


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Subject: Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films


> In the  older films, it's the incredible amount of cigarette smoking that 
>  always amazes me. How did anyone live past 40 with all that second-hand  
> smoke? Like Phil, I also love the tight-sweatered women with boobs  
that'd 
> poke your eyes out (who engineered those bras?) and the  occasional 
glimpse 
> of vintage lingerie. And have you noticed in old  movies that, even on a 
> crowded city street, there were apparently no  people of color?
> Greg Douglass
> Michael B wrote:
>>  WHEN YOU WATCH AN OLDER FILM THAT WAS TRULY FILMED ON LOCATION, WHAT IS 
 
>> YOUR FAVORITE DIVERSION FROM THE STORY?
>>
>>  do you like looking at the:
>>
>> old street  scenes?
>> clothing/fashion?
>> menu or grocery store  prices?
>> that 1940 big buick?
>> those tiny  airplanes?
>> airport security of yesteryear?
>> appliances,  b&w televisions, radios, dial  telephones?
>>
>>
>> what  else?
>>
>> michael
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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-12 Thread Phil Edwards
No question that seing older (and the older the better) films that use 
locatiom shooting, how often one sees the general public standing around in 
the background gawping at filming going on.


It's like spectacular car chases in films where there appears to be almost 
no other major traffic to get in the way.


RONIN was a fun film of the old school in many ways, but as well edited as 
the car chase is, where are all the other cars?


Phil


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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films


In the older films, it's the incredible amount of cigarette smoking that 
always amazes me. How did anyone live past 40 with all that second-hand 
smoke? Like Phil, I also love the tight-sweatered women with boobs that'd 
poke your eyes out (who engineered those bras?) and the occasional glimpse 
of vintage lingerie. And have you noticed in old movies that, even on a 
crowded city street, there were apparently no people of color?

Greg Douglass
Michael B wrote:
WHEN YOU WATCH AN OLDER FILM THAT WAS TRULY FILMED ON LOCATION, WHAT IS 
YOUR FAVORITE DIVERSION FROM THE STORY?


do you like looking at the:

old street scenes?
clothing/fashion?
menu or grocery store prices?
that 1940 big buick?
those tiny airplanes?
airport security of yesteryear?
appliances, b&w televisions, radios, dial telephones?


what else?

michael



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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-12 Thread Richard Auras
Michael,

I like that question.  Personally I love looking at vintage gadgets such as old 
radios, phonographs as well as the cars and bikes.  I also love catching scenes 
of old theatres themselves especially during the days of the huge extravagent 
palaces when everyone went to the movies in suit and tie.  When the theatre was 
a getaway itself as much as the film.  I like to see the old ice cream shops 
just as much.  I always say I was born in the wrong time but I know I could 
never jump in a 'way-back' machine and live then after living with what I have 
now.  I could live without phones and fast cars but I really need my internet 
:-)    .

Rick
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bunch.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 6:58:31 PM
Subject: [MOPO] side interests of older films

WHEN YOU WATCH AN OLDER FILM THAT WAS TRULY FILMED ON LOCATION, WHAT IS YOUR 
FAVORITE DIVERSION FROM THE STORY?

do you like looking at the:

old street scenes?
clothing/fashion?
menu or grocery store prices?
that 1940 big buick?
those tiny airplanes?
airport security of yesteryear?
appliances, b&w televisions, radios, dial telephones?


what else?

michael

   



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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-12 Thread Dave Rosen
I always like to watch the background action. On occasion I've spotted movie 
stars working as extras or doing bit parts before they were famous.

I always look at signs, too. Once, watching Sterling Hayden come out of a pawn 
shop in the The Killing, I noticed a sign in the background on a strip joint 
advertising Lenny Bruce as the emcee. And this was when Lenny was a nobody! His 
fame was still a few years away. It just so happened Kubrick shot the scene on 
location on a real LA (or was it SF?) street in front of a REAL club! I thought 
that was cool.

Dave

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  WHEN YOU WATCH AN OLDER FILM THAT WAS TRULY FILMED ON LOCATION, WHAT IS YOUR 
FAVORITE DIVERSION FROM THE STORY?

  do you like looking at the:

  old street scenes?
  clothing/fashion?
  menu or grocery store prices?
  that 1940 big buick?
  those tiny airplanes?
  airport security of yesteryear?
  appliances, b&w televisions, radios, dial telephones?


  what else?

  michael




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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-12 Thread jbirddouglass
In the older films, it's the incredible amount of cigarette smoking that 
always amazes me. How did anyone live past 40 with all that second-hand 
smoke? Like Phil, I also love the tight-sweatered women with boobs 
that'd poke your eyes out (who engineered those bras?) and the 
occasional glimpse of vintage lingerie. And have you noticed in old 
movies that, even on a crowded city street, there were apparently no 
people of color?

Greg Douglass
Michael B wrote:
WHEN YOU WATCH AN OLDER FILM THAT WAS TRULY FILMED ON LOCATION, WHAT 
IS YOUR FAVORITE DIVERSION FROM THE STORY?


do you like looking at the:

old street scenes?
clothing/fashion?
menu or grocery store prices?
that 1940 big buick?
those tiny airplanes?
airport security of yesteryear?
appliances, b&w televisions, radios, dial telephones?


what else?

michael

  



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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-12 Thread Toochis Morin
How the actors worked in the space.  How it made them more natural or startled 
them a bit.





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Tight sweaters on the ladies.
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From: Michael B 
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Subject: [MOPO] side interests of older  films
WHEN YOU WATCH AN OLDER FILM THAT WAS TRULY FILMED ON LOCATION,  WHAT IS YOUR 
FAVORITE DIVERSION FROM THE STORY?

do you like looking at  the:

old street scenes?
clothing/fashion?
menu or grocery store  prices?
that 1940 big buick?
those tiny airplanes?
airport security  of yesteryear?
appliances, b&w televisions, radios, dial  telephones?


what else?

michael

   



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Re: [MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-12 Thread Phil Edwards
Tight sweaters on the ladies.
Phil


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  From: Michael B 
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  WHEN YOU WATCH AN OLDER FILM THAT WAS TRULY FILMED ON LOCATION, WHAT IS YOUR 
FAVORITE DIVERSION FROM THE STORY?

  do you like looking at the:

  old street scenes?
  clothing/fashion?
  menu or grocery store prices?
  that 1940 big buick?
  those tiny airplanes?
  airport security of yesteryear?
  appliances, b&w televisions, radios, dial telephones?


  what else?

  michael




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[MOPO] side interests of older films

2009-05-12 Thread Michael B
WHEN YOU WATCH AN OLDER FILM THAT WAS TRULY FILMED ON LOCATION, WHAT IS YOUR 
FAVORITE DIVERSION FROM THE STORY?

do you like looking at the:

old street scenes?
clothing/fashion?
menu or grocery store prices?
that 1940 big buick?
those tiny airplanes?
airport security of yesteryear?
appliances, b&w televisions, radios, dial telephones?


what else?

michael

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