Re: [MOPO] things that make you go hmmmm....

[Bruce Hershenson]

I have made my point, and Rudy has made his, and I I have no need to pursue
this further. I think the truth of this matter is plainly "out there" for
all to see (and everyone can make up their own minds based on what has been
said).

For some reason, I am reminded of an recent incident with my son Luke. I
told him he could take any cookies from the cookie jar in our kitchen
without permission. I was surprised the other day to come into the kitchen
and to see Luke with his hand deep in the cookie jar. Before I could say
anything, he launched into a long rambling explanation of how he realized it
could *LOOK* like he was taking cookies, but that actually he was merely
counting the cookies, to make certain none of the *OTHER* kids had taken
any!

Kids will be kids, but one hopes that when they grow up they learn to
distinguish right from wrong, and more importantly, to take responsibility
for their actions when they are caught "with their hands in the cookie jar",
but some people apparently never do, and I feel that is their loss. "What
shall it profit a man, if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul?"
seems to apply here.

Bruce

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Rudy Franchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My relationship to Heritage is stated clearly in the sig attached to every
> email I send out. If I recommend  Heritage when contacted by phone, I always
> mention my relationship to Heritage both as a consultant and as their
> representative on Antiques Roadshow,. But that's a big "if." The majority of
> the queries I get through my website are for values of non movie posters
> (travel, war, advertising, etc.). I refer a handful of these to Heritage,
> but the bulk are referred to such outlets as Swann Galleries in New  York,
> Phill Weiss Auctions (also N.Y.), Christie's London (vintage poster dept.)
> and individual dealers. As for movie posters, all sci-fi and horror get
> recommended to Heritage because they consistently get the best prices for
> this material. But if an individual poster or a collection of movie posters
> is a better fit for a different vendor, that's who I recommend. I've
> referred potential sellers to Christie's London (cinema poster dept.), John
> Kisch, Sam Sarowitz, Joe Burtis, Bonhams in L.A., Tony Nourmand, and in the
> not too distant past I've recommended several people who contacted me with
> large collections to Bruce, though I never received a reply from him --- but
> perhaps the owners of the collections did.  I hardly ever follow up with
> individuals who contact me after I have made a suggestion as to how they can
> dispose of their posters. Over half the people who use my site, have no
> desire to sell. They just want to know something about what they own and
> what's it's worth. I also inform everyone who contacts me and wants to sell
> that in some cases I will receive a percentage of the hammer price at
> certain auction houses. This finder's fee is  called an introductory
> commission and it  has no effect on the amount of the money the seller
> receives. I take great pride in my site and spend a lot of time each day
> answering emails. In the spirit of disclosure, aside from the occasional
> commission, because of the site I've also secured several major appraisals
> from institutions and individual collectors plus I've been hired as an
> expert witness in several legal cases involving movie and travel posters.
> Like the Hawaiian missionaries, I came to do good and ended up doing very
> well. Regards, rudy franchi
>
> On Sep 28, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>
>  I would have to think that surely both LAMP and Heritage had no clue as to
>> the misrepresentation presented on this site, and that now that it is
>> revealed they will surely take steps to change the situation (either by
>> removing their links, having the website altered so that it clearly reveals
>> it is simply the website of the "Consignment Directors" of Heritage, and it
>> is NOT impartial in any way, or both).
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:18 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent piece of investigative reporting, Bruce!  Although it is also
>>> clear why you would want to bring this to light.  Part consumer protection,
>>> part self-interest.  NEVERTHELESS, will LAMP now take action to either
>>> clarify the "vested interests" of these experts (The Franchi Family) or will
>>> they remove the reference completely from the LAMP website?
>>>
>>>
>>> Saul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at  8:12 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> What if a person finds an old movie poster, and wants to get a fair
>>> unbiased opinion as to its value and how to best sell it? Well, one might go
>>> to Google and type in "movie poster value" or some similar phrase, and one
>>> of the links you get is to a site that is called www. poster
>>> appraisal.comThere is also a prominent link to that site at the top of
>>> Learnaboutmovieposters.com's page called "Sources a

Re: [MOPO] things that make you go hmmmm....

[Bruce Hershenson]

I would have to think that surely both LAMP and Heritage had no clue as to
the misrepresentation presented on this site, and that now that it is
revealed they will surely take steps to change the situation (either by
removing their links, having the website altered so that it clearly reveals
it is simply the website of the "Consignment Directors" of Heritage, and it
is NOT impartial in any way, or both).

Bruce

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 9:18 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Excellent piece of investigative reporting, Bruce!  Although it is also
> clear why you would want to bring this to light.  Part consumer protection,
> part self-interest.  NEVERTHELESS, will LAMP now take action to either
> clarify the "vested interests" of these experts (The Franchi Family) or will
> they remove the reference completely from the LAMP website?
>
> Saul
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at  8:12 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>
> What if a person finds an old movie poster, and wants to get a fair
> unbiased opinion as to its value and how to best sell it? Well, one might go
> to Google and type in "movie poster value" or some similar phrase, and one
> of the links you get is to a site that is called *www. poster
> appraisal.com* There is also a prominent
> link to that site at the top of Learnaboutmovieposters.com's page called
> "Sources and Resources for Movie Poster Collectors".
>
> Going to that site, near the very top of the page is a disclaimer that
> reads, "Nothing is bought or sold on this site". and "but if you do wish to
> sell, I will be happy to suggest the best way to market the item you own"
> and even better, "I do not charge for this service or for the actual
> evaluation"
>
> Great! A completely free and unbiased appraisal of your old movie poster.
> The page says that "The site is owned and run by rudy franchi" and a list of
> his credentials are given, including that the owner and his wife (Barbara)
> "have organized poster auctions for Skinner of Boston, Heritage Galleries of
> Dallas and Christie's, New York and continue to appear on Antiques Roadshow"
> (note the past tense on the poster organizing, and the present tense on the
> Antiques Roadshow).
>
> Later on the page is the promise that "And to repeat, I do not make offers
> for the material you inquire about nor do I get involved in its eventual
> disposition". It seems that one could not ask for a more expert opinion, and
> you have an absolute promise of impartiality from people who promise to not
> "get involved".
>
> But perhaps all is not exactly as is stated above? When one goes to the
> "Meet our Experts" page on Heritage's movie poster section of their website
> at 
> *http://movieposters.ha.com/common/consignment_directors.php*,
> Grey Smith is listed as "Director", followed by Bruce Carteron as "Auction
> Coordinator" and then there are two "Consignment Directors" (both of whom
> can be contacted  through e-mails or 800 phone numbers that are housed at
> Heritage's headquarters) and these "Consignment Directors" are Barbara
> Franchi and Rudy Franchi. That clearly directly contradicts the statement on
> the *posterappraisal.com* site.
> 
>   
> Or are perhaps these different people who happen to have the same name as
> the owners of the *posterappraisal.com* site?
> If so, they should clear up this confusion, so no one could think they are
> being deceptive, or hiding a major conflict of interest.
> 
>   
> H 
>   
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Re: [MOPO] things that make you go hmmmm....

[shchapman]

Excellent piece of investigative reporting, Bruce!  Although it is also 
clear why you would want to bring this to light.  Part consumer 
protection, part self-interest.  NEVERTHELESS, will LAMP now take action 
to either clarify the "vested interests" of these experts (The Franchi 
Family) or will they remove the reference completely from the LAMP 
website?


Saul

On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at  8:12 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

What if a person finds an old movie poster, and wants to get a fair 
unbiased opinion as to its value and how to best sell it? Well, one 
might go to Google and type in "movie poster value" or some similar 
phrase, and one of the links you get is to a site that is called www. 
poster appraisal.com  There is also a 
prominent link to that site at the top of Learnaboutmovieposters.com's 
page called "Sources and Resources for Movie Poster Collectors".


Going to that site, near the very top of the page is a disclaimer that 
reads, "Nothing is bought or sold on this site". and "but if you do wish 
to sell, I will be happy to suggest the best way to market the item you 
own" and even better, "I do not charge for this service or for the 
actual evaluation"


Great! A completely free and unbiased appraisal of your old movie 
poster. The page says that "The site is owned and run by rudy franchi" 
and a list of his credentials are given, including that the owner and 
his wife (Barbara) "have organized poster auctions for Skinner of 
Boston, Heritage Galleries of Dallas and Christie's, New York and 
continue to appear on Antiques Roadshow" (note the past tense on the 
poster organizing, and the present tense on the Antiques Roadshow).


Later on the page is the promise that "And to repeat, I do not make 
offers for the material you inquire about nor do I get involved in its 
eventual disposition". It seems that one could not ask for a more expert 
opinion, and you have an absolute promise of impartiality from people 
who promise to not "get involved".


But perhaps all is not exactly as is stated above? When one goes to the 
"Meet our Experts" page on Heritage's movie poster section of their 
website at http://movieposters.ha.com/common/consignment_directors.php 
 , Grey 
Smith is listed as "Director", followed by Bruce Carteron as "Auction 
Coordinator" and then there are two "Consignment Directors" (both of 
whom can be contacted  through e-mails or 800 phone numbers that are 
housed at Heritage's headquarters) and these "Consignment Directors" are 
Barbara Franchi and Rudy Franchi. That clearly directly contradicts the 
statement on the posterappraisal.com  site. 


   
Or are perhaps these different people who happen to have the same name 
as the owners of the posterappraisal.com  
site? If so, they should clear up this confusion, so no one could think 
they are being deceptive, or hiding a major conflict of interest. 


   
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[MOPO] things that make you go hmmmm....

[Bruce Hershenson]

What if a person finds an old movie poster, and wants to get a fair unbiased
opinion as to its value and how to best sell it? Well, one might go to
Google and type in "movie poster value" or some similar phrase, and one of
the links you get is to a site that is called
www.*poster*appraisal.com There
is also a prominent link to that site at the top of
Learnaboutmovieposters.com's page called "Sources and Resources for Movie
Poster Collectors".

Going to that site, near the very top of the page is a disclaimer that
reads, "Nothing is bought or sold on this site". and "but if you do wish to
sell, I will be happy to suggest the best way to market the item you own"
and even better, "I do not charge for this service or for the actual
evaluation"

Great! A completely free and unbiased appraisal of your old movie poster.
The page says that "The site is owned and run by rudy franchi" and a list of
his credentials are given, including that the owner and his wife
(Barbara) "have organized poster auctions for Skinner of Boston, Heritage
Galleries of Dallas and Christie's, New York and continue to appear on
Antiques Roadshow" (note the past tense on the poster organizing, and the
present tense on the Antiques Roadshow).

Later on the page is the promise that "And to repeat, I do not make offers
for the material you inquire about nor do I get involved in its eventual
disposition". It seems that one could not ask for a more expert opinion, and
you have an absolute promise of impartiality from people who promise to not
"get involved".

But perhaps all is not exactly as is stated above? When one goes to the
"Meet our Experts" page on Heritage's movie poster section of their website
at http://movieposters.ha.com/common/consignment_directors.php, Grey Smith
is listed as "Director", followed by Bruce Carteron as "Auction Coordinator"
and then there are two "Consignment Directors" (both of whom can be
contacted  through e-mails or 800 phone numbers that are housed at
Heritage's headquarters) and these "Consignment Directors" are Barbara
Franchi and Rudy Franchi. That clearly directly contradicts the statement on
the posterappraisal.com site.

Or are perhaps these different people who happen to have the same name as
the owners of the posterappraisal.com site? If so, they should clear up this
confusion, so no one could think they are being deceptive, or hiding a major
conflict of interest.

H

Bruce Hershenson

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