[MORPHMET] Re: Appending tps curves to landmarks

2017-11-10 Thread Candice Neves
UPDATE: The problem was that I was working with an older version of 
tpsUtil, I think. Or possibly an error in the original download. After 
re-downloading the software to the newer version my files now open without 
error. Thanks all for your advice

Candice

On Friday, 10 November 2017 12:25:52 UTC+2, Candice Neves wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I'm currently trying to append curves to landmarks using the function in 
> tpsUtil (I want to use the curve information as sliding landmarks) however 
> any time I try to do this tpsUtil gives me an error message saying 
> '0.004149' is not a valid floating point value.' I take this to mean that 
> one of the points I made when digitizing is not "valid" and so tpsUtil 
> cannot read the file? Is this right? When I was digitizing tpsDIG kept 
> popping up error messages but I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong, 
> I was just tracing the outline using the 'draw curve' function. I'd delete 
> the curve and start over, but it happened every time I outlined a molar so 
> eventually I jut kept going. Did this mess me up? Was there a way to fix 
> what I was doing that would have meant my curves would be read in tpsUtil? 
> Is there a way I can manually append my curve data as landmarks that could 
> still be read into Geomorph or Momocs as sliding landmarks? Could I edit 
> the tps file manally to do this or am I going to have to start over 
> redrawing the curves? I need to delete some landmarks as well, so I'm 
> having the same problem with tpsUtil, I was planning on manually deleting 
> the landmarks I no longer want for my specimens (or should I just tell the 
> R packages I use to exclude certain landmarks? I think this might be 
> better).
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated
> Thanks
> Candice Neves
> MSc Candidate
>

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[MORPHMET] Appending tps curves to landmarks

2017-11-10 Thread Candice Neves
Hi All

I'm currently trying to append curves to landmarks using the function in 
tpsUtil (I want to use the curve information as sliding landmarks) however 
any time I try to do this tpsUtil gives me an error message saying 
'0.004149' is not a valid floating point value.' I take this to mean that 
one of the points I made when digitizing is not "valid" and so tpsUtil 
cannot read the file? Is this right? When I was digitizing tpsDIG kept 
popping up error messages but I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong, 
I was just tracing the outline using the 'draw curve' function. I'd delete 
the curve and start over, but it happened every time I outlined a molar so 
eventually I jut kept going. Did this mess me up? Was there a way to fix 
what I was doing that would have meant my curves would be read in tpsUtil? 
Is there a way I can manually append my curve data as landmarks that could 
still be read into Geomorph or Momocs as sliding landmarks? Could I edit 
the tps file manally to do this or am I going to have to start over 
redrawing the curves? I need to delete some landmarks as well, so I'm 
having the same problem with tpsUtil, I was planning on manually deleting 
the landmarks I no longer want for my specimens (or should I just tell the 
R packages I use to exclude certain landmarks? I think this might be 
better).

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Candice Neves
MSc Candidate

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Re: [MORPHMET] Landmarks coming up funny in MorphoJ

2017-11-06 Thread Candice Neves
Hi Guido

Thanks so much for the suggestion, I'll definitely do that. Is there a
particular way to save a wordpad/notepad file as a .tps format file? I've
tried to do this before but it kept saving as a .txt file, or would this
still work?

Thanks for the help
Candice Neves

On 6 November 2017 at 19:44, Guido Rocatti <guidoroca...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Candice,
>
> I think that maybe you should try to organize both coordinate sets
> directly using notepad or wordpad and saving the file as a .tps format
> file. Doing so, you won't depend on the tpsUtil.
> Also, I understand that you have missing data. You can try and estimate
> those missing landmarks with the *estimate.missing *function of
> the  geomorph package for R. It uses thin-plate spline to interpolate
> landmarks, or a linear regression model to predict them (the method
> election is up to you).
> Once you managed to put both sets together and you obtained your missing
> landmarks, you can export your new dataset and open it on MorphoJ.
> Hope this helps somehow.
>
> Good Luck.
>
>
> Guido Rocatti
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> Universidad Nacional de La Plata.
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[MORPHMET] Landmarks coming up funny in MorphoJ

2017-11-06 Thread Candice Neves
Hi All,

I'm trying to analyze measurement error in MorphoJ but I'm running into a 
problem. When I digitized my landmarks I used tpsDIG2, however I had to 
organize those coordinates into a CSV. file because I digitized them in two 
separate .tps files and tpsUtil wouldn't allow me to open the one that required 
I delete some specimens I didn't landmark (I thus couldn't join the two files 
for analysis). So I collated them in a CSV. However, when I look at the 
outliers in MorphoJ the landmarks come out in a horizontal line instead of in 
the shape of a mandible. I can't analyze this. It doesn't seem to take the 
x,y-coordinate as coordinate pairs, from what I can see it places 26 landmarks 
in a horizontal line, instead of the 13 pairs I digitized. Anyone have any 
suggestions?

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