Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-16 Thread Heather_Waymouth
I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and kids 
with this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they 
reach the secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the 
skills themselves.  I am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid 
can comprehend at grade level, our job is done as there is no problem. 
Working in a high school, I run into at least a kid or two every year that 
fits a profile similar to this and has seemed to slip through the cracks. 
Yet, I realize that teachers in the lower grades have generally noticed 
the same weaknesses I see, but do not remediate them because of a child's 
overall academic performance at the time.  Once these kids get to high 
school, it is VERY HARD to go back and fill these basic skill gaps. 
They've learned many coping strategies independently, which is great. 
Generally, however, what I find is that these skills are more so AVOIDANCE 
skills rather than coping skills - gathering everything you "need to know" 
about a  novel through listening to classroom discussion, not actually 
reading, does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading requirements 
in the common core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but it does 
help you pass .  Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient 
than actually learning the skill, yet there's always a point at which it 
comes back to bite them and they need to nail down the skills.  Doing so 
at the high school level has to be very much so more individualized than 
at lower grades because they have all found unique ways around skills so 
one must find unique ways to slide in appropriate strategies.  Yet, in 
earlier grades, if these weak skills are identified but are not severely 
impacting a kid's success, I do wonder how we provide this preventative 
support in light of the fact that there are plenty of "right now" issues 
in any given classroom.

Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2013-05-16 Thread Heather_Waymouth
I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and kids with 
this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they reach the 
secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the skills themselves. 
I am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid can comprehend at grade 
level, our job is done as there is no problem. Working in a high school, I run 
into at least a kid or two every year that fits a profile similar to this and 
has seemed to slip through the cracks. Yet, I realize that teachers in the 
lower grades have generally noticed the same weaknesses I see, but do not 
remediate them because of a child's overall academic performance at the time. 
Once these kids get to high school, it is VERY HARD to go back and fill these 
basic skill gaps. They've learned many coping strategies independently, which 
is great. Generally, however, what I find is that these skills are more so 
AVOIDANCE skills rather than coping skills - gathering everything you "need to 
know" about a novel through listening to classroom discussion, not actually 
reading, does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading requirements in 
the common core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but it does help you 
pass . Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient than actually 
learning the skill, yet there's always a point at which it comes back to bite 
them and they need to nail down the skills. Doing so at the high school level 
has to be very much so more individualized than at lower grades because they 
have all found unique ways around skills so one must find unique ways to slide 
in appropriate strategies. Yet, in earlier grades, if these weak skills are 
identified but are not severely impacting a kid's success, I do wonder how we 
provide this preventative support in light of the fact that there are plenty of 
"right now" issues in any given classroom.


Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

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Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia

2013-05-16 Thread Mena
To truly understand you need to watch any Richard Lavoie youtube on the 
difficult student with LD have with processing.
 

 

Philomena Marinaccio, Ph.D.
Florida Atlantic University  
Dept. of Teaching and Learning
College of Education
2912 College Ave. ES 214
Davie, FL  33314
Phone:  954-236-1070
Fax:  954-236-1050
 

 

-Original Message-
From: Heather_Waymouth 
To: mosaic 
Sent: Thu, May 16, 2013 10:07 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] dyslexia


I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and kids with 
this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they reach the 
secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the skills themselves. 
I 
am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid can comprehend at grade 
level, 
our job is done as there is no problem. Working in a high school, I run into at 
least a kid or two every year that fits a profile similar to this and has 
seemed 
to slip through the cracks. Yet, I realize that teachers in the lower grades 
have generally noticed the same weaknesses I see, but do not remediate them 
because of a child's overall academic performance at the time. Once these kids 
get to high school, it is VERY HARD to go back and fill these basic skill gaps. 
They've learned many coping strategies independently, which is great. 
Generally, 
however, what I find is that these skills are more so AVOIDANCE skills rather 
than coping skills - gathering everythin
 g you "need to know" about a novel through listening to classroom discussion, 
not actually reading, does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading 
requirements in the common core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but 
it does help you pass . Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient 
than actually learning the skill, yet there's always a point at which it comes 
back to bite them and they need to nail down the skills. Doing so at the high 
school level has to be very much so more individualized than at lower grades 
because they have all found unique ways around skills so one must find unique 
ways to slide in appropriate strategies. Yet, in earlier grades, if these weak 
skills are identified but are not severely impacting a kid's success, I do 
wonder how we provide this preventative support in light of the fact that there 
are plenty of "right now" issues in any given classroom.


Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

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Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

2013-05-16 Thread Foltermann, Marsha
Very well said!

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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Dyslexia

I think the issues brought up by this discussion are quite valid and kids with 
this type of learning profile frequently go "unnoticed" until they reach the 
secondary grades when efficiency counts just as much as the skills themselves.  
I am concerned by the thought that so long as a kid can comprehend at grade 
level, our job is done as there is no problem. 
Working in a high school, I run into at least a kid or two every year that fits 
a profile similar to this and has seemed to slip through the cracks. 
Yet, I realize that teachers in the lower grades have generally noticed the 
same weaknesses I see, but do not remediate them because of a child's overall 
academic performance at the time.  Once these kids get to high school, it is 
VERY HARD to go back and fill these basic skill gaps. 
They've learned many coping strategies independently, which is great. 
Generally, however, what I find is that these skills are more so AVOIDANCE 
skills rather than coping skills - gathering everything you "need to know" 
about a  novel through listening to classroom discussion, not actually reading, 
does not prepare a student for more rigorous reading requirements in the common 
core, in college, and on all those pesky tests, but it does help you pass .  
Their way of "getting by" is certainly more efficient than actually learning 
the skill, yet there's always a point at which it comes back to bite them and 
they need to nail down the skills.  Doing so at the high school level has to be 
very much so more individualized than at lower grades because they have all 
found unique ways around skills so one must find unique ways to slide in 
appropriate strategies.  Yet, in earlier grades, if these weak skills are 
identified but are not severely impacting a kid's success, I do wonder how we 
provide this preventative support in light of the fact that there are plenty of 
"right now" issues in any given classroom.

Heather Waymouth
High School Literacy Specialist
Honeoye Falls - Lima High School
heather_waymo...@hflcsd.org
(585)-624-7050

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2013-05-16 Thread Dan Tobin

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