Re: [MOSAIC] MOT2 book talk BEGINS!!
I must agree with Deb. Why can't we discuss MOT2 right here? It's getting too complicated. Kerry In a message dated 6/13/2007 11:34:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ginger, as you know, I absolutely adore YOU! This idea is NUTS! This ring was set up to discuss MOT. But we have to join a different web to discuss MOT2. What exactly are we 'allowed' to discuss here? Just wondering? I am not starting a flaming war, but I truly don't 'get' it deb ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] assessment
I know. Grades are not ideal. However, I am one that is in a position to not only give grades within the confines of my room but also to report to admin., teachers, parents, and students about grades earned on common assessments the whole grade level uses. I like Daniels' ideas for some of the less formal, interim assessments I do in my indiv. classroom though. Thanks for reminding me. Kerry In a message dated 5/8/2007 6:32:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having just attended a weekend seminar with Harvey Daniels, his advice regarding assessment is ringing in my ears. First, says he, teachers need to let go of the sense that everything a student does must be graded but, realizing that we have grade books and need to leave a few tracks, he called for binary grading. As he described this, it is an all or nothing sytem--19 pots if you do it, 0 if you don't. He was speaking of lit circles, but AI see room for carryover. He also talked about having kids determine what is really important--a list of expectations generated BY the kids--along with a point value system (ALSO--OF BY THE KIDS). These points add up to 100 and there you go--a grade. I am trying to see this with relationship to strategies ??Thinking through my fingers about making connections?? Marks text with thinking using sticky notes where needed. Makes several meaningful connections. Can take connections back to the text. Is able to articulate connections to others. Recognizes that connections can lead a reader astray. ?? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] assessment/grades
In a message dated 5/7/2007 8:59:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have not used them for grades yet. I could after I get more comfortable using the rubric. Since each rubric has 5 statements, you could have each one worth 20 points so 1=20 points, 2=40, 3=60, 4=80, and 5=100. Or I might decide to use something like 1=50, 2=60, 3=80, 4=90, 5= 100 because a grade of 20 or 40 would be so difficult to recover from. Linda W Thanks for sharing your idea, Linda. I might try that and see how it goes... ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] ELL's reading and writing
Give yourself a pat on the back, Donna! Love your assessment idea and it sounds like your students are learning a lot about reading strategies. Kerry/5th ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] assessment
In a message dated 5/7/2007 6:31:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kerry- Since the use of comprehension strategies can be difficult to assess, you have a large task on your hands. I work with students identified as having reading difficulties and we work on the use of strategies in class. I use the strategy interview in the "Mosaic of Thought" book. This has given me valuable feedback about the students use of strategies, and has been very helpful in planning lessons. I agree! This task is not cut and dry to say the least. When you use Keene's interview, do you have to give grades based on it? If so, how do you do that? I feel like we've been asked to put a square peg in a round hole! I know Keene has small book on assessing comprehension out now (can't remember the title), so one of our ideas is to incorporate her work in a written/oral assessment. I work in a middle school where each of us teaches multiple classes so giving an oral assessment to each student is close to impossible. I was thinking perhaps most can take this assessment we come up with in a written form and we administer an oral version to those students whose reading ability wouldn't be accurately assessed through their writing. Hmm...or does everyone fall into this category? Kerry ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] assessment
In a message dated 5/7/2007 6:47:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ellin Keene has a fairly new book of assessments by Shell Educational Publishing called assessing comprehension Thinking Strategies. It has oral assessments,written assessments,rubrics and passages for grades one through eight. These passages assess all 7 thinking strategies as well as thinking aloud, setting a purpose and text structure. I have just started using them, but I like them so far. Linda Wallis Hi Linda! I just got that one! Do you turn these into letter or number grades? If so, how? Kerry ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] assessment FOLLOW-UP
Hi again - I forgot to include that we need these assessments to not only measure student achievement for diagnostic purposes but to result in GRADES used to complete report cards. Kerry/5th In a message dated 5/7/2007 6:27:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi - I guess I have a few separate questions for the group concerning reading assessment. First, how do you assess reading comprehension and your students' strategy use? My school is currently taking a look at how we assess overall reading comprehension and the students' use of the comprehension strategies. We have been charged with creating common assessments that will given by each Lang. Arts teacher (to each student) across the grade level. Therefore, my second question is: does anyone's school have anything like this? Thirdly, does anyone have any ideas for how this could look at the 5th grade level? We've begun brainstorming, but I am looking for some fresh ideas. I'd love to hear how you measure your students' overall comprehension and strategy use. Thanks in advance, Kerry/5th ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
[MOSAIC] assessment
Hi - I guess I have a few separate questions for the group concerning reading assessment. First, how do you assess reading comprehension and your students' strategy use? My school is currently taking a look at how we assess overall reading comprehension and the students' use of the comprehension strategies. We have been charged with creating common assessments that will given by each Lang. Arts teacher (to each student) across the grade level. Therefore, my second question is: does anyone's school have anything like this? Thirdly, does anyone have any ideas for how this could look at the 5th grade level? We've begun brainstorming, but I am looking for some fresh ideas. I'd love to hear how you measure your students' overall comprehension and strategy use. Thanks in advance, Kerry/5th ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
[MOSAIC] OT: standards-based progress reports/report cards
Hi - My school is planning to create progress reports based on the state standards (rather than traditional grades). I am representing our grade for the reading and writing portion. Does anyone else's school have these? Would anyone be willing to email me a copy or send me a web link? I would love to see some examples. Thank you, Kerry/5th/MA ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Amer. Rev. novels
Thanks for the suggestions! Kerry/gr. 5 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
[MOSAIC] Amer. Rev. novels
Hi! I am looking for "LOW" novels to include in my historical fiction unit that focuses on the Revolutionary War. The books needs to be at a third grade level or lower. Any ideas? Thanks, Kerry/gr. 5 ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Word Study
In a message dated 3/31/2007 12:42:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a curriculum for each grade for word study? How are you assessing student needs for word study? Maxine Are you familiar with Words Their Way? It is a great resource that will answer many of your questions. Kerry ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Strategies THAT work - second edition!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi - How exciting! How is this edition different from the first one? Kerry ** Check out free AOL at http://free.aol.com/thenewaol/index.adp. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, millions of free high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and much more. ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] art/music/p.e. & strategies
In a message dated 12/28/2006 3:40:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone have any neat ideas for the art, music and p.e. teachers in their support of all the great comprehension and literacy strategies we all talk about on this listserv? Carrie I don't have it home with me, but there is a book called something like Teaching Comprehension Through the Arts that sounds exactly what you're looking for. I think it's an International Reading Association book. Good luck! Kerry ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Determining Importance
Does anyone have any successful lessons with helping kids identify main ideas of nonfiction text? Looking for some fresh lessons and strategies! Thanks, Kerry/5th ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] synthesizing
Thanks to those who have taken the time to share some of your ideas about teaching synthesizing. Any picture book recommendations for modeling? Kerry/5th ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Question regarding word study
In a message dated 11/8/2006 7:07:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anyone using any other program for spelling or vocabulary development that you think is something my district should review? I would love to hear any ideas. Thanks, Sue Grade 4 Many of us use Words Their Way, a developmental spelling program that focuses on spelling patterns through sorting and other activities. You can find a wealth of info. on the web by doing a search. Good Luck! Kerry/ gr. 5 ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Fix up strategies
In a message dated 11/6/2006 8:05:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking for some ideas on how to teach fix up or monitoring your comprehensio strategies to my sixth graders. The first day I plan on modeling what I do. Af ter that I would like to find some lesson ideas how to continue practice on this.Thanks. Pat Cris Tovani has some ideas in I Read It But I Don't Get It. Kerry/5th ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
[MOSAIC] synthesizing
Hi! Does anyone have any lesson ideas for teaching synthesizing to 5th graders? This is the strategy I struggle with the most. Any ideas at all would be appreciated. Thanks, Kerry/5th ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] Chapter Books
In a message dated 9/27/2006 6:47:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wonder about how your school uses Chapter Books. There was a recent question about doing whole class novels/chapter books in grades 3-5. When working with the comprehension strategies...how may find it effect doing it as "whole class". Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Ro I'm not sure if would ever be effective doing whole class unless you were using a SHARED READING approach. Students need to learn and practice the strategies using a text on their instructional level. Therefore, since all your students have varying reading levels, differentiation is needed. Can you try grouping the kids according to reading level and have a few different chapter books being read at once? Kerry/5th/MA ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
Re: [MOSAIC] persuasive texts
In a message dated 9/19/2006 6:28:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've used Should there be zoos? by Tony Stead The kid love it. They can write passionately about one side or the other. Sue M I second that text! There is also a picture book called Earrings! that's good for that. I think the author might be Judith Viorst. Kerry/5th ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
[MOSAIC] short story collections
Hello - I LOVE using short stories for shared reading experiences with a focus on the strategies with my 5th graders. My favorite collections are Birthday Surprises edited by J. Hurwitz and Every Living Thing by C. Rylant. Can anyone recommend some more short story collections or even just the names of short stories I can hunt down? I am looking for stories with reading levels that range from early 4th grade to late 6th. Thanks! Kerry/5th/MA ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.
Re: [MOSAIC] monitoring
Hi - After spending the first couple weeks of school establishing routines and doing independent reading lessons like those of Fountas and Pinnell's, I am ready to begin my explicit instruction of the Monitoring and Using Fix-Up Strategies strategy. Gina, I really like your click and clunk terminology! I am finding Tovani's book to be a good resource for teaching this. I think that first we must brainstorm together as a class how one knows that his/her comprehension is breaking down. Then I must model, perhaps with a book that is truly difficult for me, how I know I am having trouble and what I do to fix it. Again, a list of fix-up strategies can be brainstormed. Then what? Would anyone else be willing to share how they teach this strategy? I am looking for new ideas. Thanks, Kerry/5th/MA ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.
Re: [MOSAIC] reflections
In a message dated 9/15/2006 3:24:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also..I have grades that simply must be given. Every 3 weeks a progress report goes out. I am in middle school, so credit for applying the strategies just won't fly. Can we actually grade strategy use? And if not there goes some of my strategy time while I find other products to do and assess. Your thoughts? Hi Gina - I have been wrestling with the same problem for the past 5 years. How can we measure the students' strategy use, and the how can we magically turn these assessments into a number/letter grade? In the past I created rubrics that assess the strategy use. The points earned on the rubric were then totaled to equal a grade equivalent...not exactly how rubrics were intended to be used but you do what you have to. I have lost the electronic files of these at this point but data was gathered from conferences, discussions, and written responses to make judgments on how proficient the students were at each strategy. It is something but I dare say there must be a better way. One answer may be given with the push for standards-based report cards. Here in Massachusetts they are becoming increasingly popular, even in the middle schools. My middle school is going to be creating a first draft using the state standards this year. Some of the 7 strategies are listed in our state standards so we can use data collected through conferences, written responses, etc. to gauge whether a student is proficient. No letter or number grades needed. I guess I could ramble about this forever but don't have the time or the answers. I'd love to hear how other people grade their students on strategy use! Kerry/MA ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org.
