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[mou-net] Snowy Owl @ MSP Airport
Snowy was seen perched on bldg just before UPS on Cargo Rd between 3:30 and 4:30 this afternoon. A small group of us were detained by local Police who asked for our ID's and inquired as to the reason for our presence. When I told them we were looking at a bird he was dismayed and told us that we were in a secure area and photography was strictly forbidden. Only 1 of us had a camera and we were quick to point out that we were looking thru bins and not cameras. He also seemed confused by the fact that non of us had ever met before today. "How did we know to come to the airport?", he asked. In unison we replied that we read about it on line @ this site. I told him that had he been 15 minutes earlier he would have encountered a much larger group. At this point there were 2 police cars and 2 officers asking questions. After running our ID's they returned them and thanked us for our cooperation. All in all a not so unpleasant experience except for the fact that he informed us in no uncertain terms that we were trespassing and Cargo Rd. was private for use by employees of local companies only. We were instructed that future transgressions would not be tolerated. My question, which I kept to myself, is: If the road is private shouldn't it be posted as such? When I left the area I stopped at the intersection with Longfellow and could not find any sign denoting restricted access. The bird is there but it might be difficult to walk anywhere without attracted unwanted attention from the authorities. FYI they said they were responding to a report of suspicious behavior. I got my Snowy for the year so I'm happy but concerned about future forays. Good birding to all ! Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Crosby park
Just got back from a few hours at Crosby Park in St PAul. The trail is pretty wet and the trees have definitely leafed out in the past 3 days but there were still birds to be seen. Warblers were staying higher up toward the canopy making for more difficult views but still had 12 species on a midday trip, not bad. Nothing particularly noteworthy. The best bird for me was a yellow-headed blkbird. This was the first time I have seen this bird in the cities. List included: Least Flycatcher Red-eyed Vireo Gray-cheeked Thrush Swainson's Thrush Baltimore Oriole Louisiana Waterthrush Blk-and-White Warbler Canada Warbler Chestnut-Sided Warbler Magnolia Warbler Palm Warbler Wilson's Warbler It's going to get tougher by the day to get good looks. Birding by ear will soon be the rule rather than the exception. Good Birding to All, Griff Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] palm warblers
I was up by Taylors Falls checking out the St Croix River for a future fishing trip. I went to the Osceola landing and the thickets were full of Yellow-rumps. Not unexpected, but low down and in the grass was a group of at least 10 Palm warblers in beautiful fresh plumage. I had forgotten how pretty they are. Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Raptor Species
Thanks for all the input. I, too, have seen evidence of Great Horned predation on crows. I have never seen a GHO hunt @ 2:30 on a bright sunny day. With my brief glimpse I thought Coopers or falcon (long tail) not buteo or owl. I guess I was wondering if a Coop or Peregrine could take a crow. I don't know if a Goshawk is possible this time of year (or any time, for that matter) in the cities. I admit I was surprised to hear that a Red-Tailed would take a crow. Back east I have seen Sharpies harass crows but never carry one off. Again, thanks for all the ideas, Jim _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Raptor Species?
Hi All, Yesterday at about 2 pm I heard a very vocal group of crows from my home office. I went outside thinking they were mobbing a red tail or owl in the spruces in the side yard. As I left the house I saw the group of 6-8 crows harassing a large raptor. I only got the briefest of looks but the raptor had a crow in it's talons! I jumped into the car and tried to relocate the birds to no avail. I live just 2 short blocks from Lilydale park and the bluffs along the Mississippi in St. Paul and my guess is that they went straight into 1 of the many wooded areas. My question is - What local raptor would take a crow? As I said, all I really got a glimpse of was the crow in the talons as the group disappeared behind the tree line. Just the impression of white(or light-colored) belly. I can't ever remember seeing a bird of prey with a crow. Any ideas as to species?Just curious. _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Raptor Species?
Hi All, Yesterday at about 2 pm I heard a very vocal group of crows from my home office. I went outside thinking they were mobbing a red tail or owl in the spruces in the side yard. As I left the house I saw the group of 6-8 crows harassing a large raptor. I only got the briefest of looks but the raptor had a crow in it's talons! I jumped into the car and tried to relocate the birds to no avail. I live just 2 short blocks from Lilydale park and the bluffs along the Mississippi in St. Paul and my guess is that they went straight into 1 of the many wooded areas. My question is - What local raptor would take a crow? As I said, all I really got a glimpse of was the crow in the talons as the group disappeared behind the tree line. Just the impression of white(or light-colored) belly. I can't ever remember seeing a bird of prey with a crow. Any ideas as to species?Just curious. _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] TVs
Yesterday pm trip to Lilydale Park yielded 7 turkey vultures and a dozen yellow bellied sapsuckers. I just wanted to see how wet it was. Still a little mucky. I have never seen that many TVs so close together in this area. Stopped by this morning and sapsuckers are still moving thru. Pretty bird! _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Woodcock sites
Thanks for the prompt replies. I don't see my original post in my inbox. Sent a 2nd post and that didn't appear either. Am I sending to the correct address(mou-net@lists.umn.edu)? I just noticed I didn't include a subject. Could that be the cause? Any other ideas why? Sorry for the confusion but I am new to this site. Thanks, Jim _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
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Hi All, forgot to mention that on my morning dog walk along the bluffs in West St. Paul today I had 2 brown creepers and a Pileated along with the usual stuff. Yesterday was a decent Flicker flight day with 16 being seen in the aforementioned 20 min walk. Spent an hour or so hiking around Lilydale with nothing of note to report. Finally, I wonder if anyone could help with Shorebird spots in and around the Metro. I have a copy of Birders Guide to Mn but lots of options listed and some may be outdated, things change. A current shortlist of locations would be most appreciated. Can't wait for the warblers to arrive.Good Birding to All, Jim _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
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Just moved to St Paul last July. I was wondering if anyone could supply a reliable location to watch American Woodcock display. My step daughter is just getting into birding and expressed an interest. I used to see them back east regularly but don't want to spend a lot of time searching with an inpatient 14 yr old. Success in this venture may breed future interest, hopefully. Thanks, Jim _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
Re: [mou-net] Owls and People
The problem of posting owl and raptor locations is not new in the birding community. I started birding when I lived on Eastern Long Island, N.Y.. As a new young, enthusiastic birder I spent untold hours cruising Dune Rd. and other beach locations searching for Snowy and Saw-whet Owls. I was lucky enough to find a Saw-whet in some cedars near Jones Beach. I immediately notified members of my Audubon group(Moriches Bay). Since this took place in the pre internet days(early 80's) I called the local RBA and gave directions to the bird. I had no reservations about doing this since I had used this source to observe many staked out rarities. I went back, with several friends, the following afternoon. To my amazement someone had decided to drastically prune the tree that the bird was still roosting in, obviously to facilitate a photo. I couldn't believe my eyes. Since that day I have always struggled with the decision to post locations. Ultimately, I decided to continue communicating with my fellow birders. I have to believe that the people who abuse this info are the small minority. It is clearly a difficult(and personal) decision but as I said I had some very memorable experiences using info from RBA's and I feel a need to return the favor whenever possible. Good Birding to all. Jim _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/ Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Bluebirds
Sorry for the delay but didn't have access to laptop till this morning. I went to Carpenter St Croix Nature Center Sunday afternoon. Nothing great but did have a late Palm Warbler. The #'s of Bluebirds and Waxwings were what was impressive. Along the trail to the bluff is a thicket of red osier dogwood and several trees with significant grapes still on the vine. My best estimate was 150-170 Bluebirds and slightly less 120-130 Waxwings. Quite a sight in beautiful afternoon light. Further down the loop trail there are 2 nice size stands of White Pine. A small mixed flock of Nuthatches and Kinglets flitting about. Predominately Red-Breasted Nuthatches with at least 25-30 present. On the way out there were still a few RW Blkbirds at the small pond by the entrance. A really nice spot with beautiful vistas overlooking the St. Croix. Has anyone been there in the spring during migration. Seems like a likely spot. _ New Windows 7: Find the right PC for you. Learn more. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pc-scout/default.aspx?CBID=wl&ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_pcscout:102009 Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Fall Migration
I have been reading posts for a few days. I am new to the Cities and Mn. Can someone please take a moment to provide some normally productive locales for fall migration of songbirds and shorebirds(I know it's late in the season). I have a good supply of info on spring hotspots. Are these spots also productive in the fall? I was able to visit Hawk Ridge for a day trip mid Sept. and had a slow day. Did have 1 Goshawk which made it worth all the effort. Thanks in advance for any replies. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Grosbeak
I saw an immature male Rose-breasted Grosbeak at the Bog @ Wirth Park yesterday. I'm new to the cities and Mn.. Is it late for this species? Also, I must admit that my first impression was female Black-headed due to the extent of the buffiness, all the way down thru the belly, and the lack of streaking. The bird posed long enough for me to note the lack other field marks to confirm Blk-headed. I am aware that Blk-headed grosbeaks are accidental here. When I got home I cked some guides and was not able to find an accurate depiction of the bird I saw. I picked up my copy of A Birder's Guide to Mn. and checked the grosbeaks. Kudos to Kim Eckert for noting exactly what I had observed, a juvy male Rose-breasted with extensive buffiness sans visible streaking. _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] gray partridge/Rochester
With the new snow cover I decided to try for gray partridge by the airport radar tower. No luck. This is my 3rd attempt in that area. Any other Rochester area suggestions. I did see the post for Dakota Cty. Maybe I will take the ride this afternoon. _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_022009 Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] GW
derek, point well taken. I 1st heard about the report on NPR. the reporter used purple finch as his example stating that they were now wintering in Milwaukee vs Missouri. Just ! factoid gleened from the report and a questionable 1 at that. If the general public can think of other plausible reasons for the range expansion then they might extrapolate that Gw is not real & that would be a very bad thing. _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_022009 Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] re global warming
Hi again, I understand and agree that GW is responsible for alot of range expansion, just not all range expansion. I am also aware that GW started long before it was a popular topic. That said, I (and almost every other birder on LI) was at a loss to explain the cardinal expansion and even in hindsight I don't think GW had as much impact as the "new" food sources. NB 77 -83 were some of the coldest winters on record on LI. At that time we had redpolls at many feeders and flocks of WW crossbills regularly along the beach. Both these species became much less common in the next 20 yrs (GW?). Another species to consider is cattle egret, now on LI. How much of their expansion is due to GW vs normal range expansion of an introduced species. Finally, I do think using Turkeys as an example of GW expansion is dangerous at best due to all the reintroduction programs. Currently my area is overrun with turkeys and they are definately not here because of GW. _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] global warming
Hi, just read Rick's post. I am from LI, NY and I can remember having to travel out to Eastern LI to see a cardinal in the winter. They started their expansion in the mid 70's long before any mention of global warming. This has always been attributed to greater availability of food, both natural & from feeders. I just think the Audubon article is guilty of oversimplifying the issue of range expansion. _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] Sax -Zim
general info wanted. I am in Rochester and would like to go to Sax-Zim before I leave the area in the spring. I can go this wkend(7-8) but will only have sat pm andsun am to bird. I can spend more time there if I wait till wkend of 2/28. Is that too late 4 winter resident species. I am after the obvious draws to the bog namely owls, boreal species and northern finches. any input greatly appreciated. thanks, JIM _ Hotmail® goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/versatility.aspx#mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_WL_HM_versatility_121208 Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] merlin
HI ALL, ON SUNDAY I WAS ON MY WAY HOME FROM HASTINGS,NE. AND PULLED INTO A REST STOP ON RTE 90 IN SW MN BY BLUE MOUNDS. WHEN I GOT BACK INTO THE CAR I CAUGHT A GLIMPSE OF A GRAY BACKED BIRD. 1ST IMPRESSION WAS MOURNING DOVE BUT FLIGHT &BODY SHAPE DIDN'T FIT. I AM NEW TO MN FROM LI,NY SO I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH WINTER RESIDENTS. I GRABBED MY BINOCS AND DROVE TO WHERE I THOUGHT THE BIRD LANDEDE. HE FLUSHED AS I WAS SCANNING FOR HIM AND I WAS ONLY ABLE TO SEE HIM FROM BEHIND. DEFINATELY A FALCON BUT TOO BIG & WRONG COLOR(COMPLETELY GRAY BACK) TO BE A KESTREL. HE ALSO LEFT IN A HURRY. I USED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE HAWK COUNTS ON THE BEACH BACK HOME AND IT WAS EASY TO ID THE MERLINS BY FLIGHT. THEY WERE BULLETS AND THE KESTRELS WOULD MEANDER AMONG THE DUNES AS THEY WERE HEADING WEST. I DID SEE THAT THERE IS A PALE PRAIRIE FORM IN THIS AREA BUT ARE THEY WINTER RESIDENTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN. TOO SMALL FOR COOPERS AND FEMALE SHARPIE AND I HAVE SEEN TONS OF SHARPSHINS BACK EAST AND I HONESTLY DON'T THINK IT COULD HAVE BEEN AN ACCIPITER. MERLIN OR ? _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howitworks_012009 Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] GRAY PARTRIDGE
HI AGAIN, SINCE I MIGHT CANCEL TRIP TO MANKATO DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE GRAY PARTRIDGES ON THE ROCHESTER WERE SEEN. EITHER EXACTLY WHERE OR IN WHAT SECTOR OF THE COUNT. I AM NEW TO THE AREA FROM LI,NY AND GP IS A VERY GOOD BIRD 4 ME. AS R THE WW CROSSBILLS AND SISKINS. ANY LOCAL INFO WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. I AM TRYING TO FIND MY WAY AROUND WITH THE HELP OF BOB EKBLAD'S EXCELLENT HELP(FROM HIS WEBSITE). ANY LOCAL BIRDERS LOOKING FOR COMPANY ON A LOCAL WEEKDAY TRIP DROP ME A LINE. Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
[mou-net] mankato hawk-owl
HI ALL, I'M IN ROCHESTER AND WAS PLANNING ON LEAVING WORK AT AROND 2 PM TO HEAD OUT TO LOOK FOR THIS BIRD. I JUST SAW THE POST THAT IT WASMIA THIS MORNING. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF IT HAS BEEN FOUND OR HOW MUCH EFFORT(HOW MANY PAIRS OF BINOCS) WERE THERE FOR THIS MORNINGS SEARCH. I DON'T WANT TO DRIVE 4 HRS RT FOR NAUGHT Join or Leave mou-net:http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html
