[mou] Hummingbird Question

2005-08-13 Thread Ron Green
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I have a couple of questions regarding our resident Ruby-Throated HB's =
(male and female) that I am hoping someone could educate my wife and me =
on regarding a several issues?

1) Last night, my wife and I were eating dinner and watching the male =
HB. Anyway, we just noticed a bright red patch under its throat. I have =
taken quite a few close-up images and have not seen this before. Is the =
probably another male, or is it a change in the one that has been =
hanging around the most?

2) The last week or so it seems that the male has shifted to coming to =
the feeder frequently, but not necessarily to drink. It flys around, and =
darts back and forth. It seems like it is patroling? Is this territorial =
behavior? We do have a female that shows up occaisionally and he does =
tend to chase her off. But, she does come back when he is not around. =
Also, there is another male that does come around but is quickly chased =
by our resident one. However, the one getting chased off seems rather =
persistent and keeps coming back.

3) I was at Wild Birds Unlimited last Sunday to give a talk on Digital =
Photography. I happened to talk with a customer of the store who was =
telling me that she had quite a few HB's at her feeder at one time (I =
thought she said 10, but don't quote me on that). I was surprised based =
on what happens at out feeder and from a talk we had heard from a HB =
expert at the Quarry Hill Nature Center around February or March of this =
year.=20

I would be interested in some inputs on the above. Thank you in advance.


Ron Green
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could=20
educate my wife and me on regarding a several issues?
 
1) Last night, my wife and I were =
eating=20
dinner and watching the male HB. Anyway, we just noticed a bright =
red patch=20
under its throat. I have taken quite a few close-up images =
and have=20
not seen this before. Is the probably another male, or is it a change in =
the one=20
that has been hanging around the most?
 
2) The last week or so it seems that =
the male has=20
shifted to coming to the feeder frequently, but not necessarily to =
drink. It=20
flys around, and darts back and forth. It seems like it =
is patroling?=20
Is this territorial behavior? We do have a female that shows up =
occaisionally=20
and he does tend to chase her off. But, she does come back when he =
is not=20
around. Also, there is another male that does come around but is quickly =
chased=20
by our resident one. However, the one getting chased off seems rather =
persistent=20
and keeps coming back.
 
3) I was at Wild Birds Unlimited last =
Sunday to=20
give a talk on Digital Photography. I happened to talk with a customer =
of the=20
store who was telling me that she had quite a few HB's at her feeder at =
one time=20
(I thought she said 10, but don't quote me on that). I was surprised =
based on=20
what happens at out feeder and from a talk we had heard from a HB expert =
at the=20
Quarry Hill Nature Center around February or March of this year. =

 
I would be interested in some inputs on =
the above.=20
Thank you in advance.
 
 
Ron Greenhttp://www.greensphotoimages.com/gallery";>http://www.greensphotoi=
mages.com/gallery

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[mou] Hummingbird Question

2005-08-13 Thread Tom Crumpton
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I live on the Canadian Border.
I have close to 20 hummingbirds at one time at my feeders now. I just 
can't seem to count them as they move around a lot.   I have 5 feeders 
that are about 1.5 feet out my patio door (28 feeding ports).  I also 
have 2 feeders that are not in view of the main grouping.  I have gone 
through 10# of sugar so far this month (with no waste).  Sometimes I see 
3+ males at one time. The main group of feeders is by far the most 
popular feeding spot.  The males will take off from here soon.  Some of 
the males maybe immatures???  I have a neighbor that gets more 
hummingbirds than I do (15 miles away).  His closest neighbor is about 
10 miles. 
1)  The throat patch changes with the light or angle of the sun I think. 
Also the immatures maybe developing patches???
2) I have some aggressive females that will chase males as well as 
aggressive males. 

I have fed in this location consistently for about 10 years which I am 
sure helps the numbers.  I do not have competition from close neighbors 
feeding to my knowledge.  I do have a neighbor that feeds about 1/2 mile 
away.  The feeders are very busy this time of year as they prepare for 
migration.  Like I said I expect the males to be mostly gone in the next 
10 days and then the volume of  sugar water consumed and numbers will 
decline somewhat.  I went through over 20# of sugar last August.
One interesting observation is they appear to be feeding some in the 
wild sunflowers that come up from spilled bird seed.

Have a great w/e
Tom

Ron Green wrote:

> I have a couple of questions regarding our resident Ruby-Throated HB's 
> (male and female) that I am hoping someone could educate my wife and 
> me on regarding a several issues?
>  
> 1) Last night, my wife and I were eating dinner and watching the male 
> HB. Anyway, we just noticed a bright red patch under its throat. I 
> have taken quite a few close-up images and have not seen this before. 
> Is the probably another male, or is it a change in the one that has 
> been hanging around the most?
>  
> 2) The last week or so it seems that the male has shifted to coming to 
> the feeder frequently, but not necessarily to drink. It flys around, 
> and darts back and forth. It seems like it is patroling? Is this 
> territorial behavior? We do have a female that shows up occaisionally 
> and he does tend to chase her off. But, she does come back when he is 
> not around. Also, there is another male that does come around but is 
> quickly chased by our resident one. However, the one getting chased 
> off seems rather persistent and keeps coming back.
>  
> 3) I was at Wild Birds Unlimited last Sunday to give a talk on Digital 
> Photography. I happened to talk with a customer of the store who was 
> telling me that she had quite a few HB's at her feeder at one time (I 
> thought she said 10, but don't quote me on that). I was surprised 
> based on what happens at out feeder and from a talk we had heard from 
> a HB expert at the Quarry Hill Nature Center around February or March 
> of this year.
>  
> I would be interested in some inputs on the above. Thank you in advance.
>  
>  
> Ron Green
> http://www.greensphotoimages.com/gallery


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I live on the Canadian Border.
I have close to 20 hummingbirds at one time at my feeders now. I just
can't seem to count them as they move around a lot.   I have 5 feeders
that are about 1.5 feet out my patio door (28 feeding ports).  I also
have 2 feeders that are not in view of the main grouping.  I have gone
through 10# of sugar so far this month (with no waste).  Sometimes I
see 3+ males at one time. The main group of feeders is by far the most
popular feeding spot.  The males will take off from here soon.  Some 
of
the males maybe immatures???  I have a neighbor that gets more
hummingbirds than I do (15 miles away).  His closest neighbor is about
10 miles.  
1)  The throat patch changes with the light or angle of the sun I
think. Also the immatures maybe developing patches???
2) I have some aggressive females that will chase males as well as
aggressive males.  

I have fed in this location consistently for about 10 years which I am
sure helps the numbers.  I do not have competition from close neighbors
feeding to my knowledge.  I do have a neighbor that feeds about 1/2
mile away.  The feeders are very busy this time of year as they prepare
for migration.  Like I said I expect the males to be mostly gone in the
next 10 days and then the volume of  sugar water consumed and numbers
will decline somewhat.  I went through over 20# of sugar last August.
One interesting observation is they appear to be feeding some in the
wild sunflowers that come up from spill

[mou] Hummingbird Question

2005-08-13 Thread Judith Sparrow
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Hello All,

=20

I have 3 Hummingbird feeders up-all 3 feeders have 8 feeding ports.  One =
of
the feeders often has birds at all feeding ports plus some hummer =
waiting in
the air for a free spot.  I've seen as many as 16 hummers around that
feeder.  The other two feeders are each "guarded" by a hummer that has =
laid
claim to it.  No other hummers are allowed at the other two feeders =
except
the guard hummer.  The guard hummers at my place do fly around =
"patrolling"
their feeders.  The 3 feeders are about 10 ft. apart.

=20

Judith Sparrow

=20

"The world is a book, and those who do not travel, read only a page."

--Saint Augustine of Hippo (A. D. 354-430)

=20

=20

-Original Message-
From: mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu [mailto:mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu] On =
Behalf
Of Ron Green
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:33 AM
To: mou-...@cbs.umn.edu; mnb...@lists.mnbird.net
Subject: [mou] Hummingbird Question

=20

I have a couple of questions regarding our resident Ruby-Throated HB's =
(male
and female) that I am hoping someone could educate my wife and me on
regarding a several issues?

=20

1) Last night, my wife and I were eating dinner and watching the male =
HB.
Anyway, we just noticed a bright red patch under its throat. I have =
taken
quite a few close-up images and have not seen this before. Is the =
probably
another male, or is it a change in the one that has been hanging around =
the
most?

=20

2) The last week or so it seems that the male has shifted to coming to =
the
feeder frequently, but not necessarily to drink. It flys around, and =
darts
back and forth. It seems like it is patroling? Is this territorial =
behavior?
We do have a female that shows up occaisionally and he does tend to =
chase
her off. But, she does come back when he is not around. Also, there is
another male that does come around but is quickly chased by our resident
one. However, the one getting chased off seems rather persistent and =
keeps
coming back.

=20

3) I was at Wild Birds Unlimited last Sunday to give a talk on Digital
Photography. I happened to talk with a customer of the store who was =
telling
me that she had quite a few HB's at her feeder at one time (I thought =
she
said 10, but don't quote me on that). I was surprised based on what =
happens
at out feeder and from a talk we had heard from a HB expert at the =
Quarry
Hill Nature Center around February or March of this year.=20

=20

I would be interested in some inputs on the above. Thank you in advance.

=20

=20

Ron Green
http://www.greensphotoimages.com/gallery


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Hello All,

 

I have 3 Hummingbird feeders =
up—all
3 feeders have 8 feeding ports.  One of the feeders often has birds =
at all
feeding ports plus some hummer waiting in the air for a free spot.  =
I’ve
seen as many as 16 hummers around that feeder.  The other two =
feeders are each
“guarded” by a hummer that has laid claim to it.  No =
other
hummers are allowed at the other two feeders except the guard =
hummer.  The
guard hummers at my place do fly around “patrolling” their
feeders.  The 3 feeders are about 10 ft. apart.

 

Judith Sparrow

 

"The world is a book, and =
those who
do not travel, read only a page."

--Saint =
Augustine of Hippo
(A. D. 354-430)

 

 

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Message-
From: =
mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu
[mailto:mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu] On Behalf
Of Ron Green
Sent: Saturday, August =
13, 2005
10:33 AM
To: mou-...@cbs.umn.edu;
mnb...@lists.mnbird.net
Subject: [mou] =
Hummingbird
Question

 



I have a couple of =
questions
regarding our resident Ruby-Throated HB's (male =
and female) that I am
hoping someone could educate my wife and me on regarding a several =
issues?





 





1) Last night

[mou] Hummingbird Question

2005-08-14 Thread patrick.beau...@ndsu.edu
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Here is an excellent website on the ruby-throated hummingbird.

http://www.rubythroat.org/RTHUMain.html

Hummingbirds use a form of daily hibernation called "torpor" which is a
rest period where body temperature drops and metabolism is slowed down. 
This usually occurs at night, but can also occur during the day.  Torpor
is energy-saving, but hummers in a torpid state are more susceptible to
predation.  Also, because their metabolism is slowed down, they cannot
make fat as they can when they are fully active.  I just read a paper in
which the authors studied feeding territory and fat formation in the
blue-throated hummingbird.  They found that dominant hummers that guard
nectar sources tend to use torpor to a lesser degree and form more body
fat.  This is particularly important in migration when food sources may be
difficult to find.

A note about color.  The metallic reds and greens seen in hummers are not
caused by red or green pigments.  The color is "structural".  That is, the
microscopic spaces between the structural components of the feather allow
only a certain wavelength of light to be transmitted (reflected) back to
the viewer.  When viewed at an oblique angle, the microscopic spacings
change size relative to the viewer and that is why the red throat, for
example, appears black.  This type of coloration is quite common in
nature, especially among insects like butterflies and tiger beetles.

Hope I haven't been too long-winded!

Cheers,

Pat


Patrick Beauzay
Department of Entomology
217 Hultz Hall, Bolley Drive
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105
701-231-9491
patrick.beau...@ndsu.nodak.edu








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Hello All,

 

I have 3 Hummingbird feeders up—all
3 feeders have 8 feeding ports.  One of the feeders often has birds at all
feeding ports plus some hummer waiting in the air for a free spot.  
I’ve
seen as many as 16 hummers around that feeder.  The other two feeders are 
each
“guarded” by a hummer that has laid claim to it.  No other
hummers are allowed at the other two feeders except the guard hummer.  The
guard hummers at my place do fly around “patrolling” their
feeders.  The 3 feeders are about 10 ft. apart.

 

Judith Sparrow

 

"The world is a book, and those who
do not travel, read only a page."

--Saint 
Augustine of Hippo
(A. D. 354-430)

 

 

-Original Message-
From: mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu
[mailto:mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu] On Behalf
Of Ron Green
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005
10:33 AM
To: mou-...@cbs.umn.edu;
mnb...@lists.mnbird.net
Subject: [mou] Hummingbird
Question

 



I have a couple of questions
regarding our resident Ruby-Throated HB's (male and female) that I am
hoping someone could educate my wife and me on regarding a several 
issues?





 





1) Last night, my wife and I
were eating dinner and watching the male HB. Anyway, we just noticed
a bright red patch under its throat. I have taken quite a
few close-up images and have not seen this before. Is the probably
another male, or is it a change in the one that has been hanging around the
most?





 





2) The last week or so it seems that
the male has shifted to coming to the feeder frequently, but not necessarily to
drink. It flys around, and darts back and forth. It seems like it
is patroling? Is this territorial behavior? We do have a female that shows
up occaisionally and he does tend to chase her off. But, she does come
back when he is not around. Also, there is another male that does come around
but is quickly chased by our resident one. However, the one getting chased off
seems rather persistent and keeps coming back.





 





3) I was at Wild Birds Unlimited
last Sunday to give a talk on Digital Photography. I happened to talk with a
customer of the store who was telling me that she had quite

[mou] Hummingbird Question

2005-08-16 Thread Andrew Longtin
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Lanny is my Hummingbird expert...
See his excelent web site at: www.hummingbirds.net  
He also has a migration map to help you know when to fill the feeders in the
sping and report first sightings..
He also bands the little guys..
 
Andrew
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Minnesota Ornithologists Union Member
http://moumn.org/ <http://biosci.cbs.umn.edu/~mou/> 
Cornell Lab Member (PFW)
http://birds.cornell.edu/pfw/

along...@worldnet.att.net
See My WEB pages at: http://home.att.net/~alongtin/Index.htm

NO SPAM NEEDED HERE PLEASE!

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From: mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu [mailto:mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu] On Behalf
Of Ron Green
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:33 AM
To: mou-...@cbs.umn.edu; mnb...@lists.mnbird.net
Subject: [mou] Hummingbird Question


I have a couple of questions regarding our resident Ruby-Throated HB's (male
and female) that I am hoping someone could educate my wife and me on
regarding a several issues?
 
1) Last night, my wife and I were eating dinner and watching the male HB.
Anyway, we just noticed a bright red patch under its throat. I have taken
quite a few close-up images and have not seen this before. Is the probably
another male, or is it a change in the one that has been hanging around the
most?
 
2) The last week or so it seems that the male has shifted to coming to the
feeder frequently, but not necessarily to drink. It flys around, and darts
back and forth. It seems like it is patroling? Is this territorial behavior?
We do have a female that shows up occaisionally and he does tend to chase
her off. But, she does come back when he is not around. Also, there is
another male that does come around but is quickly chased by our resident
one. However, the one getting chased off seems rather persistent and keeps
coming back.
 
3) I was at Wild Birds Unlimited last Sunday to give a talk on Digital
Photography. I happened to talk with a customer of the store who was telling
me that she had quite a few HB's at her feeder at one time (I thought she
said 10, but don't quote me on that). I was surprised based on what happens
at out feeder and from a talk we had heard from a HB expert at the Quarry
Hill Nature Center around February or March of this year. 
 
I would be interested in some inputs on the above. Thank you in advance.
 
 
Ron Green
http://www.greensphotoimages.com/gallery

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Lanny is my Hummingbird =
expert...
See his excelent web site at: http://www.hummingbirds.net";>www.hummingbirds.net =20

He also has a migration map to help you know =
when to fill=20
the feeders in the sping and report first =
sightings..
He also bands the little =
guys..
 
Andrew

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(PFW)    http://birds.cornell.edu/pfw/";>http://birds.cornell.edu/pfw/<=
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From: mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu=20
[mailto:mou-net-ad...@cbs.umn.edu] On Behalf Of Ron =
GreenSent:=20
Saturday, August 13, 2005 10:33 AMTo: mou-...@cbs.umn.edu;=20
mnb...@lists.mnbird.netSubject: [mou] Hummingbird=20
Question

I have a couple of questions regarding =
our resident=20
Ruby-Throated HB's (male and female) that I am hoping someone =
could=20
educate my wife and me on regarding a several issues?
 
1) Last night, my wife and I were =
eating=20
dinner and watching the male HB. Anyway, we just noticed a bright =
red patch=20
under its throat. I have taken quite a few close-up images =
and have=20
not seen this before. Is the probably another male, or is it a change in =
the one=20
that has been hanging around the most?
 
2) The last week or so it seems that =
the male has=20
shifted to coming to the feeder frequently, but not necessarily to =
drink. It=20
flys around, and darts back and forth. It seems like it =
is patroling?=20
Is this territorial behavior? We do have a female that shows up =
occaisionally=20
and he does tend to chase her off. But, she does come back when he =
is not=20
around. Also, there is another male that does come around but is quickly =
chased=20
by our resident one. However, the one getting chased off seems rather =
persistent=20
and keeps coming back.
 
3) I was at Wild Birds Unlimited last =
Sunday to=20
give a talk on Digital Photography. I happened to talk with a customer