Re: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana

2020-10-03 Thread Kathryn Rudd
Simply Beautiful, Travis! 
Thank you -  Kathryn Rudd Eagan

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> On Oct 2, 2020, at 10:55 PM, PalmerLakeGuy  wrote:
> 
> I have seen and photographed American Goldfinch eating hemp:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/palmerlakeguy2010/48772583756/in/album-72157679072868235/
> 
> Travis Bonovsky
> Brooklyn Center, MN
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:58 PM  wrote:
>> 
>> And there must be many versions of hemp. I have a wild version that is
>> impossible to kill off. My great grandpa in Morrison County used to have a
>> difficult time getting rid of his version so livestock wouldn’t get into
>> it. Grandpa had to slash n burn. I at least have the advantage of weed
>> killers. And I would guess what is being licensed to grow for CBD and other
>> commercial use is different too. From my farm publications it is a variety
>> that doesn’t produce the THC that is mind altering. It’s pretty strictly
>> regulated.
>> 
>> Back to bird feeding I’ve not seen birds taking seed from what we have
>> here that’s wild. But then I try to burn it down before it seeds. I do have
>> another invasive weed that I watched white throated sparrows feed on seeds
>> yesterday. I’m just glad someone appreciates that noxious invasive.
>> 
>> Charlene Nelson
>> Grant County
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Jared Del Rosso 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently, pigeons will eat hemp seeds. When the U.S. Congress first
>> began
>> criminalizing marijuana use in the late-1930s (first by issuing a tax on
>> it, not actually criminalizing it), bird seed companies (at the last
>> minute) tried to interject, seeking an exception for seed production for
>> pigeons. They argued that the seeds were indispensible to the production of
>> healthy squabs; other seeds "changed the character" of the bird. (My source
>> is the sociologist Howard Becker's book *Outsiders: Studies in the
>> Sociology of Deviance.)*
>> 
>> - Jared Del Rosso
>> Centennial, Colorado (formerly, part-time in St. Paul and Cloquet)
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 1:18 PM Kathryn Rudd 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are the birds lounging about on the fallen leaves and giggling?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Laura Erickson <
>> chickadee.erick...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
 
 I was one of the people in Carrol Henderson's study offering the hemp
>>> seeds
 at my feeder in Duluth--didn't have any takers, either. But it's
>> possible
 the difference is that the hemp seed in the experiment was "industrial
 hemp," not "psychoactive hemp."
 
 Best, Laura Erickson
 Duluth, MN
 
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:08 PM sparky stensaas <
>>> sparkystens...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> Ha! This is exactly what Carrol Henderson was working on...
> Hemp seeds were used as a bird seed many years ago.
> Last year he had many of us test hemp seeds in our feeders to see if
>> 
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Re: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana

2020-10-02 Thread PalmerLakeGuy
I have seen and photographed American Goldfinch eating hemp:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/palmerlakeguy2010/48772583756/in/album-72157679072868235/

Travis Bonovsky
Brooklyn Center, MN

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:58 PM  wrote:

> And there must be many versions of hemp. I have a wild version that is
> impossible to kill off. My great grandpa in Morrison County used to have a
> difficult time getting rid of his version so livestock wouldn’t get into
> it. Grandpa had to slash n burn. I at least have the advantage of weed
> killers. And I would guess what is being licensed to grow for CBD and other
> commercial use is different too. From my farm publications it is a variety
> that doesn’t produce the THC that is mind altering. It’s pretty strictly
> regulated.
>
> Back to bird feeding I’ve not seen birds taking seed from what we have
> here that’s wild. But then I try to burn it down before it seeds. I do have
> another invasive weed that I watched white throated sparrows feed on seeds
> yesterday. I’m just glad someone appreciates that noxious invasive.
>
> Charlene Nelson
> Grant County
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Jared Del Rosso 
> wrote:
>
> Apparently, pigeons will eat hemp seeds. When the U.S. Congress first
> began
> criminalizing marijuana use in the late-1930s (first by issuing a tax on
> it, not actually criminalizing it), bird seed companies (at the last
> minute) tried to interject, seeking an exception for seed production for
> pigeons. They argued that the seeds were indispensible to the production of
> healthy squabs; other seeds "changed the character" of the bird. (My source
> is the sociologist Howard Becker's book *Outsiders: Studies in the
> Sociology of Deviance.)*
>
> - Jared Del Rosso
> Centennial, Colorado (formerly, part-time in St. Paul and Cloquet)
>
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 1:18 PM Kathryn Rudd 
> wrote:
> >
> > Are the birds lounging about on the fallen leaves and giggling?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Laura Erickson <
> chickadee.erick...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I was one of the people in Carrol Henderson's study offering the hemp
> > seeds
> >> at my feeder in Duluth--didn't have any takers, either. But it's
> possible
> >> the difference is that the hemp seed in the experiment was "industrial
> >> hemp," not "psychoactive hemp."
> >>
> >> Best, Laura Erickson
> >> Duluth, MN
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:08 PM sparky stensaas <
> > sparkystens...@hotmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Ha! This is exactly what Carrol Henderson was working on...
> >>> Hemp seeds were used as a bird seed many years ago.
> >>> Last year he had many of us test hemp seeds in our feeders to see if
>
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Re: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana

2020-10-02 Thread birdnird57
And there must be many versions of hemp. I have a wild version that is 
impossible to kill off. My great grandpa in Morrison County used to have a 
difficult time getting rid of his version so livestock wouldn’t get into it. 
Grandpa had to slash n burn. I at least have the advantage of weed killers. And 
I would guess what is being licensed to grow for CBD and other commercial use 
is different too. From my farm publications it is a variety that doesn’t 
produce the THC that is mind altering. It’s pretty strictly regulated. 

Back to bird feeding I’ve not seen birds taking seed from what we have here 
that’s wild. But then I try to burn it down before it seeds. I do have another 
invasive weed that I watched white throated sparrows feed on seeds yesterday. 
I’m just glad someone appreciates that noxious invasive. 

Charlene Nelson 
Grant County

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Jared Del Rosso  wrote:

Apparently, pigeons will eat hemp seeds. When the U.S. Congress first began
criminalizing marijuana use in the late-1930s (first by issuing a tax on
it, not actually criminalizing it), bird seed companies (at the last
minute) tried to interject, seeking an exception for seed production for
pigeons. They argued that the seeds were indispensible to the production of
healthy squabs; other seeds "changed the character" of the bird. (My source
is the sociologist Howard Becker's book *Outsiders: Studies in the
Sociology of Deviance.)*

- Jared Del Rosso
Centennial, Colorado (formerly, part-time in St. Paul and Cloquet)

> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 1:18 PM Kathryn Rudd  wrote:
> 
> Are the birds lounging about on the fallen leaves and giggling?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Laura Erickson 
> wrote:
>> 
>> I was one of the people in Carrol Henderson's study offering the hemp
> seeds
>> at my feeder in Duluth--didn't have any takers, either. But it's possible
>> the difference is that the hemp seed in the experiment was "industrial
>> hemp," not "psychoactive hemp."
>> 
>> Best, Laura Erickson
>> Duluth, MN
>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:08 PM sparky stensaas <
> sparkystens...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ha! This is exactly what Carrol Henderson was working on...
>>> Hemp seeds were used as a bird seed many years ago.
>>> Last year he had many of us test hemp seeds in our feeders to see if


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Re: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana

2020-10-02 Thread Jared Del Rosso
Apparently, pigeons will eat hemp seeds. When the U.S. Congress first began
criminalizing marijuana use in the late-1930s (first by issuing a tax on
it, not actually criminalizing it), bird seed companies (at the last
minute) tried to interject, seeking an exception for seed production for
pigeons. They argued that the seeds were indispensible to the production of
healthy squabs; other seeds "changed the character" of the bird. (My source
is the sociologist Howard Becker's book *Outsiders: Studies in the
Sociology of Deviance.)*

- Jared Del Rosso
Centennial, Colorado (formerly, part-time in St. Paul and Cloquet)

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 1:18 PM Kathryn Rudd  wrote:

> Are the birds lounging about on the fallen leaves and giggling?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Laura Erickson 
> wrote:
> >
> > I was one of the people in Carrol Henderson's study offering the hemp
> seeds
> > at my feeder in Duluth--didn't have any takers, either. But it's possible
> > the difference is that the hemp seed in the experiment was "industrial
> > hemp," not "psychoactive hemp."
> >
> > Best, Laura Erickson
> > Duluth, MN
> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:08 PM sparky stensaas <
> sparkystens...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ha! This is exactly what Carrol Henderson was working on...
> >> Hemp seeds were used as a bird seed many years ago.
> >> Last year he had many of us test hemp seeds in our feeders to see if
> this
> >> was still a viable commercial operation.
> >> Results were mixed...No birds ate it up in Sax-Zim Bog feeders.
> >> But obviously Rochester chickadees like it!
> >>
> >> Sparky Stensaas
> >> 2515 Garthus Road
> >> Wrenshall MN 55797
> >> 218.341.3350
> >> sparkystens...@hotmail.com
> >>
> >> www.ThePhotoNaturalist.com
> >> www.KollathStensaas.com
> >> www.SaxZim.org
> >>
> >> 
> >> From: Minnesota Birds  on behalf of Joel H.
> >> Dunnette 
> >> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 1:28 PM
> >> To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU 
> >> Subject: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana
> >>
> >> In a park under development in Rochester, I watched several chickadees
> >> feeding avidly on seeds of marijuana plants.
> >> I was able to sit in the open less than 10 feet from them, and they kept
> >> coming back for more.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else noticed this sort of thing?
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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Re: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana

2020-10-02 Thread Kathryn Rudd
Are the birds lounging about on the fallen leaves and giggling?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 2, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Laura Erickson  
> wrote:
> 
> I was one of the people in Carrol Henderson's study offering the hemp seeds
> at my feeder in Duluth--didn't have any takers, either. But it's possible
> the difference is that the hemp seed in the experiment was "industrial
> hemp," not "psychoactive hemp."
> 
> Best, Laura Erickson
> Duluth, MN
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:08 PM sparky stensaas 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Ha! This is exactly what Carrol Henderson was working on...
>> Hemp seeds were used as a bird seed many years ago.
>> Last year he had many of us test hemp seeds in our feeders to see if this
>> was still a viable commercial operation.
>> Results were mixed...No birds ate it up in Sax-Zim Bog feeders.
>> But obviously Rochester chickadees like it!
>> 
>> Sparky Stensaas
>> 2515 Garthus Road
>> Wrenshall MN 55797
>> 218.341.3350
>> sparkystens...@hotmail.com
>> 
>> www.ThePhotoNaturalist.com
>> www.KollathStensaas.com
>> www.SaxZim.org
>> 
>> ____________
>> From: Minnesota Birds  on behalf of Joel H.
>> Dunnette 
>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 1:28 PM
>> To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU 
>> Subject: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana
>> 
>> In a park under development in Rochester, I watched several chickadees
>> feeding avidly on seeds of marijuana plants.
>> I was able to sit in the open less than 10 feet from them, and they kept
>> coming back for more.
>> 
>> Has anyone else noticed this sort of thing?
>> 
>> --
>> Joel Dunnette
>> 
>> “The purpose of argument should not be victory, but progress”
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Re: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana

2020-10-02 Thread Laura Erickson
I was one of the people in Carrol Henderson's study offering the hemp seeds
at my feeder in Duluth--didn't have any takers, either. But it's possible
the difference is that the hemp seed in the experiment was "industrial
hemp," not "psychoactive hemp."

Best, Laura Erickson
Duluth, MN

On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 2:08 PM sparky stensaas 
wrote:

> Ha! This is exactly what Carrol Henderson was working on...
> Hemp seeds were used as a bird seed many years ago.
> Last year he had many of us test hemp seeds in our feeders to see if this
> was still a viable commercial operation.
> Results were mixed...No birds ate it up in Sax-Zim Bog feeders.
> But obviously Rochester chickadees like it!
>
> Sparky Stensaas
> 2515 Garthus Road
> Wrenshall MN 55797
> 218.341.3350
> sparkystens...@hotmail.com
>
> www.ThePhotoNaturalist.com
> www.KollathStensaas.com
> www.SaxZim.org
>
> 
> From: Minnesota Birds  on behalf of Joel H.
> Dunnette 
> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 1:28 PM
> To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU 
> Subject: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana
>
> In a park under development in Rochester, I watched several chickadees
> feeding avidly on seeds of marijuana plants.
> I was able to sit in the open less than 10 feet from them, and they kept
> coming back for more.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this sort of thing?
>
> --
> Joel Dunnette
>
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Re: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana

2020-10-02 Thread sparky stensaas
Ha! This is exactly what Carrol Henderson was working on...
Hemp seeds were used as a bird seed many years ago.
Last year he had many of us test hemp seeds in our feeders to see if this was 
still a viable commercial operation.
Results were mixed...No birds ate it up in Sax-Zim Bog feeders.
But obviously Rochester chickadees like it!

Sparky Stensaas
2515 Garthus Road
Wrenshall MN 55797
218.341.3350
sparkystens...@hotmail.com

www.ThePhotoNaturalist.com
www.KollathStensaas.com
www.SaxZim.org


From: Minnesota Birds  on behalf of Joel H. Dunnette 

Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 1:28 PM
To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU 
Subject: [mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana

In a park under development in Rochester, I watched several chickadees
feeding avidly on seeds of marijuana plants.
I was able to sit in the open less than 10 feet from them, and they kept
coming back for more.

Has anyone else noticed this sort of thing?

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[mou-net] Chickadees on marijuana

2020-10-02 Thread Joel H. Dunnette
In a park under development in Rochester, I watched several chickadees
feeding avidly on seeds of marijuana plants.
I was able to sit in the open less than 10 feet from them, and they kept
coming back for more.

Has anyone else noticed this sort of thing?

-- 
Joel Dunnette

“The purpose of argument should not be victory, but progress”


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