Re: Junk Mail Controls Documentation
Rob wrote: The online help contains this explanation of Junk Mail Controls Junk Mail Controls runs after mail mail filters and applies only to the Inbox folder and its sub-folders. Use this to your advantage, for example, you can filter mail you are sure not to be Junk to a special folder outside of Inbox so that the messages will not be classified as Junk (especially useful if you subscribe to newsletters or if you are on a moderated mailing list). This explanation appears incorrect. Junk Mail Controls in fact also run whenever any folder is opened, resulting in mail previously sorted by message filters being marked as Junk and moved to the Junk folder or deleted, depending on the settings. There is an ongoing discussion of whether the current behavior is appropriate or whether there should be some enhancement to the Junk Mail Controls. In any event, I think the description above is misleading and should be corrected to match the actual behavior of the Junk Mail Controls. I am the author of this doc, but I no longer read this newsgroup or have time to fix it. Please file a bug at bugzilla.mozilla.org so that other interested people can fix this bug. -- Daniel Wang danielwang(at)mozillanews.org ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list mozilla-documentation@mozilla.org http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Migrating from Netscape 7.2 Mail to Outlook Express 6
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. I'm migrating from Netscape 7.2 mail to Outlook Express 6. Here's the problem: Netscape 7.2 mail doesn't have an Export function and and OE 6's import wizard doesn't recognize Netscape 7.2 salted files (*.slt). So, when one tries to import FROM Netscape 7.2 to OE 6, OE can't see the files. Basically, I'm stuck with Netscape unless I wanted to go with Thunderbird. Thunderbird will import the messages though I'm not intereested in Thunderbird. I want OE or outlook. Any thoughts? ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list mozilla-documentation@mozilla.org http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Re: Available: draft revision for Mail Menus spec
M Cowperthwaite wrote: I've put this up for comment: http://members.toast.net/4PF/MailMenus.html We need more context before making the effort to follow this link :-) Is this Mozilla or Thunderbird? Who are you, and why are you writing such a spec? How is it different to the specs on www.mozilla.org? Has the module owner blessed your work? Etc. etc. Gerv ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Available: draft revision for Mail Menus spec
I've put this up for comment: http://members.toast.net/4PF/MailMenus.html -- Mike Cowperthwaite To send mail, remove 'Z's from the poster's email address. ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Web site and e-mail :-)
throwing some stone at the still pond http://www.theslot.com/ finally, a respectable editor agrees with me. Time to change all web site to Web site on Help and m.o site? ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Re: Web site and e-mail :-)
On 2004-02-25, Clover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: throwing some stone at the still pond http://www.theslot.com/ finally, a respectable editor agrees with me. Time to change all web site to Web site on Help and m.o site? keep your stones to yourself. ;P http://www.googlefight.com/ says website beats web site by 141m to 15m. e-mail scores just 22m, while email gets 271m. So usage on the web clearly favours the shortened forms. The dictionaries I just checked acknowledge the existance of the shortened versions. That article says Established publications edited by grown-ups are holding on to the original terms - mozilla's website is not an established publication (the grown-ups part is probably arguable ;) So I think we're fine with either. A more serious point would be consistency - there should really be a consistent usage across the mozilla.org site, but currently we have a mix of the two (e-mail occurs 4000 times vs email 3400 times according to google). But that's not a significant issue compared to many of the problems with the site :) -- Michael ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
mail-newsgroups
I cant find any documentation about co/decoding binaries from newsgroups! Req any links! Thx -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- SaSHa SHokovic E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IRC: SH0x @ QuakeNet ICQ: 67504461 ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Re: mail-newsgroups
On 2003-11-15, SaSHa SHockovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant find any documentation about co/decoding binaries from newsgroups! Req any links! Thx There is no documentation, because combining isn't implemented. If you get a single part binary, it should be obvious how it works (but there's probably something in the help file). -- Michael ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
about mozilla mail tools bar
Dear, How can I customize mozilla mail tools bar and key binding. Because I want to use mozilla mail without mouse, I need modify tools bar as tips of Function key let user know how to use. Thanks !!! Regards, Ming ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Re: mozilla web site and mail server upgrades
Dawn Endico wrote: We're planning to move www.mozilla.org and our mail server to a new machine today. This new machine is a lot faster. It runs Apache and its mailing lists are handled by Mailman so they should be easier to join, leave and administer. Ah, now that'd be about the time our rsync access broke and so our public Mozilla mirror is out of date! :( Gary. ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Re: Mail account POP password
Rod Carty wrote: How do I set or change the password on a mail account in Mozilla 1.4? to change password, you have to clear it, in tools | password manager | manage stored password. ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Re: mozilla web site and mail server upgrades
Dawn Endico wrote: We're planning to move www.mozilla.org and our mail server to a new machine today. This new machine is a lot faster. It runs Apache and its mailing lists are handled by Mailman so they should be easier to join, leave and administer. Dawn, Now that we have a) a fast machine and b) Apache (!)... What are the Foundation's plans or opinions regarding hosting international content and perhaps language negotiation for documents which may have different translations? There are several independent efforts to produce documentation (especially end user) for different languages/regions. It would be nice imo if such efforts potentially had a home on www.mozilla.org. /bc ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Re: mozilla web site and mail server upgrades
Dawn Endico wrote: We're planning to move www.mozilla.org and our mail server to a new machine today. This new machine is a lot faster. It runs Apache and its mailing lists are handled by Mailman so they should be easier to join, leave and administer. Dawn, Now that we have a) a fast machine and b) Apache (!)... What are the Foundation's plans or opinions regarding hosting international content and perhaps language negotiation for documents which may have different translations? There are several independent efforts to produce documentation (especially end user) for different languages/regions. It would be nice imo if such efforts potentially had a home on www.mozilla.org. /bc ___ mozilla-documentation mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-documentation
Re: Getting his hotmail e-mail adress with Mozilla
Dirk Feytons wrote: Warren Ant. wrote: Hi How can you create an account of a hotmail e-mail adress in Mozilla? Mozilla ask for a POP3 or a IMAP reception server adress, but these of hotmail is an http one: http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp I'm french , sorry for my english Thanks for any of your answer. You can't. Hotmail uses a proprietary protocol for accessing mail through an email program. Currently only Outlook Express (and a recent Outlook IIRC) have this built in. Blame Microsoft. There is a prog called hotmail Popper that acts as a proxy for Hotmail that lets you use any POP/SMTP-compatible email program (such as Mozilla). You might have some luck with it. http://www.boolean.ca/hotpop/
Re: Getting his hotmail e-mail adress with Mozilla
Warren Ant. wrote: Hi How can you create an account of a hotmail e-mail adress in Mozilla? Mozilla ask for a POP3 or a IMAP reception server adress, but these of hotmail is an http one: http://services.msn.com/svcs/hotmail/httpmail.asp I'm french , sorry for my english Thanks for any of your answer. You can't. Hotmail uses a proprietary protocol for accessing mail through an email program. Currently only Outlook Express (and a recent Outlook IIRC) have this built in. Blame Microsoft. -- Dirk (PGP keyID: 0x448BC5DD - http://www.gnupg.org - http://www.pgp.com) .oO° Your parts are showing. °Oo.
Re: Documentation E-Mail Client softwarearchitecture
André Grothues wrote: On mozilla.org we only find descriptions of functionality and the source code itself is quite hard to deal with to get a start. Does anybody have an idea, where we could find an analysis dealing with this topic, we might use as a basic document for our work There's some good stuff linked from here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/embedding/ Gerv
Documentation E-Mail Client softwarearchitecture
Standing at the beginning of a software developement project, we (6 students from the university of Essen) may prepare a documentation of the softwarearchitecture of Mozilla's Webbrowser (especially the e-mail-client). On mozilla.org we only find descriptions of functionality and the source code itself is quite hard to deal with to get a start. Does anybody have an idea, where we could find an analysis dealing with this topic, we might use as a basic document for our work Thanks for your help in advance Regards André Grothues ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mozilla Mail!
Biswajit Gupta wrote: Hi, Greetings to all! Can any one tell me how to configure Netscape Mail Account in MOZILLA MAIL? i.e. incomming and outgoing server address. Thanks in Advance
Re: Mozilla Mail!
Daniel Wang wrote: You can't. You have to use Netscape 7. (Remember not to share profile between Netscape and Mozilla) Please help me, how to configure that!
Error in HelpFile regardinglocation of importing mail/settings entry
Greetings, I would like to mention that the Mozilla Messenger Help file incorrectly indicates that the import entry is in the File dropdown menu. The import entry is in the Tools dropdown menu. Please forgive me if this has been posted already, but I searched the newsgroup and did not find anything related (used import keyword on the subject field). Marco A. A. de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error in HelpFile regardinglocation of importing mail/settingsentry
Marco A A de Oliveira wrote: I would like to mention that the Mozilla Messenger Help file incorrectly indicates that the import entry is in the File dropdown menu. The import entry is in the Tools dropdown menu. Problem file is /help/locale/mail_help.html
Changing local mail fodlers
Hi. After browsing around Mozilla Mail preferences I still could not find how to do this. I would like to change the local disk folder where the downloaded (Inbox and others) mail goes to, for example, to z:\mozilla_mail. Does any one knows how to do this? Cheers, Rui Pedro
Re: Changing local mail fodlers
Hi. After browsing around Mozilla Mail preferences I still could not find how to do this. because it's not in Preferences. I would like to change the local disk folder where the downloaded (Inbox and others) mail goes to, for example, to z:\mozilla_mail. Does any one knows how to do this? you can set Local Directory for each account in Mozilla Mail | Edit | Mail Newsgroups Account Setting | (account address) | Server Settings | Local Directory . --behnam.esfahbod
Changing homepage when starting mail
When I click on the mailicon the homepage I am looking on schanges to http://apps5.oingo.com/apps/domainpark/domainpark.cgi? ... and a lot more. Is it possible to change this funny behaviour. I am a new user of mozzilla have been using Netscape but changed to Mozzilla because of its danish interface. Thanks Willem
Re: Changing homepage when starting mail
On 11 Aug 2002, it is alleged that Willem de Zweiger sauntered in to netscape.public.mozilla.documentation and loudly proclaimed: When I click on the mailicon the homepage I am looking on schanges to http://apps5.oingo.com/apps/domainpark/domainpark.cgi? ... and a lot more. Is it possible to change this funny behaviour. I am a new user of mozzilla have been using Netscape but changed to Mozzilla because of its danish interface. Thanks Willem Either disable keyword search or up-grade to a more recent build. Please note that user questions are more appropriately asked in one of the fora listed below. /b. -- Mozilla end-user questions should be directed to: snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.general snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.win32 snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.mac snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.unix Note that you need to have SSL enabled and the port set to 563.
Re: word usage (e-mail vs email, log-in vs log in, add-on vs plug-in, performance, etc.)
dwx wrote: or WWW (incorrect acronym) vs. W3 (correct acronym) for World Wide Web which isn't world-wide web or worldwide web. Ask Tim Bernes-Lee acronym is word fromed from the initial letters of a group of words WWW is an acronym. W3 is some fancy word that few understands. See http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/FAQ.html#Spelling for more information here from the inventor of the World Wide Web. -- Brant Langer Gurganus Editor, Open Directory Project Default QA Contact, Mozilla Evangelism Technician, Protonic.com Webmaster, troop545.cjb.net Webmaster, www.firecrafter.org Webmaster, www.msdpt.k12.in.us/etspages/ph Junior Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 545 Eagle Scout, Boy Scouts of America Member, Internet Society
word usage (e-mail vs email, log-in vs log in, add-on vs plug-in,performance, etc.)
see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53153 For consistancy with (English) documentation, I think we need a style guide to word choices and grammar. Below is just a short list of words that we should watch out for. Feel free to add more entries. Also feel free to disagree with me. e-mail and email: n. electronic mail Both variants are commonly accepted. The general public seems drop the hyphen while editors (and probably English professors) seems to favor e-mail. (I favor e-mail because it retains the original meaning and because it's more readable.) However, since email is used in mozilla more than e-mail is, the hyphen-ized form should be used. Usage: the e in e-mail (or email) should not be capitalized unless it is the first word in a sentence. (Even though Email is more readable than email) Usage: (please prove me wrong if I am) e-mail (or email) is a noun, not a verb. So please e-mail us is incorrect and should be please send us a e-mail. wrong and incorrect: usage: had to point this out because I just made this mistake (had 'please e-mail us is wrong'). Use incorrect, improper, insufficient, etc. log-in: noun e.g. log-in is complete log in: verb e.g. please log in Since log in is not a commonly used word (a person who knows little about computer usually knows e-mail but doesn't know log in), the hyphen should be retained. log-off: noun log off: verb add-on: -- just what the hack this is? alert: all developers in www.mozdev.org plug-in: -- and this? e.g. if Sherlock is a plug-in, what are the search engine things we add to the Search sidebar? Again, hyphen should be retained helper application: needs definition performance use with caution. see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126600 while we are on the subject of performance, here is a list of some defintions from ISO 9000:2000 (slightly edited) efficiency relationship between the result achieved and the resources used effectiveness extent to which planned activities are realized and planned results achived quality: degree to which a set of inherent characteristics fulfils *requirements* (/implied, stated, or oblgatory needs or expectation/) quality assurance (QA): part of quality management, focused on providing confidence that quality requirements will be fulfilled note: QA does not guarantee that quality will be achived, that's quality control (QC) document *information* (/meaningful data/) and its supporting medium specification *document* stating *requirements* verification confirmation, the the provision of objective evidence, that specified *requirements* have been fulfilled validation confirmation, the the provision of objective evidence, that the *requirements* for a specific intended use or application have been fulfilled e.g. verify the code against the specification e.g. validate the code against the intended use shall, must, may, etc. see http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2119.txt standard see http://hebb.cis.uoguelph.ca/~dave/343/Lectures/standards.html mozilla a W3C standard-compliant browser? or just another browser (what's up with document.all and marquee)? or something that every other browser should have been? lizard what mozilla is - looks scary, but in fact is friendly :)
Re: word usage (e-mail vs email, log-in vs log in, add-on vs plug-in, performance, etc.)
On Thursday 2002-08-01 19:42 -0700, dwx wrote: see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53153 For consistancy with (English) documentation, I think we need a style guide to word choices and grammar. Below is just a short list of words that we should watch out for. Feel free to add more entries. Also feel free to disagree with me. http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/Essentials/AquaHIGuidelines/AppBTerms/index.html is an example of such a style guide (it links to another guide that may be more thorough, although it's in PDF format). For what types of documentation are you suggesting we need such a style guide? I can see the use of one for end-user documentation and for web developer documentation, although the two would probably need different guides. Then again, I only really see the advantage of such a level of consistency in a world where we have more thorough docs than we do now. -David -- L. David BaronURL: http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~dbaron/
Re: word usage (e-mail vs email, log-in vs log in, add-on vs plug-in, performance, etc.)
dwx wrote: see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53153 For consistancy with (English) documentation, I think we need a style guide to word choices and grammar. I agree. Below is just a short list of words that we should watch out for. Feel free to add more entries. Also feel free to disagree with me. e-mail and email: n. electronic mail Both variants are commonly accepted. The general public seems drop the hyphen while editors (and probably English professors) seems to favor e-mail. (I favor e-mail because it retains the original meaning and because it's more readable.) However, since email is used in mozilla more than e-mail is, the hyphen-ized form should be used. Usage: the e in e-mail (or email) should not be capitalized unless it is the first word in a sentence. (Even though Email is more readable than email) I say e-mail is the noun and email is the verb. How about Internet (correct for the global network we all use) vs. internet (any large network) or WWW (incorrect acronym) vs. W3 (correct acronym) for World Wide Web which isn't world-wide web or worldwide web. Ask Tim Bernes-Lee Also, how about webmaster (correct) or web master (incorrect)? -- Brant Langer Gurganus Default QA Contact, Mozilla Evangelism Technician, Protonic.com Webmaster, troop545.cjb.net Webmaster, www.firecrafter.org Webmaster, www.msdpt.k12.in.us/etspages/ph Junior Assistant Scoutmaster, Troop 545 Eagle Scout, Boy Scouts of America Member, Internet Society
Re: word usage (e-mail vs email, log-in vs log in, add-on vs plug-in, performance, etc.)
I say e-mail is the noun and email is the verb. can you find any dictionary or style guide that says e-mail or email can be used as a verb? How about Internet (correct for the global network we all use) vs. internet (any large network) good, but in documentation we should avoid such distinction or WWW (incorrect acronym) vs. W3 (correct acronym) for World Wide Web which isn't world-wide web or worldwide web. Ask Tim Bernes-Lee acronym is word fromed from the initial letters of a group of words WWW is an acronym. W3 is some fancy word that few understands. Also, how about webmaster (correct) or web master (incorrect)? how about mark Webmaster as /avoid/? (see message titled Re: word usage... [documentation and GUI style guide])
Re: mail client change
On 21 Jul 2002, it is alleged that Stephan Hensel sauntered in to netscape.public.mozilla.documentation and loudly proclaimed: hello, i dont know if this is the correct place to ask, but how can i change the default email client used by Netscape from the internal mailer to sylpheed? i am using slackware linux (2.4.18), sylpheed-claws (0.7.8claws) and Netscape (7.0 pr1). i have found a solution for mozilla, but it seems that there is none for NS. any help is appreciated. The Moz solution should in this case also hold for NS 7 PR-1. Please note that user questions are more properly addressed to one of the fora listed below. /b. -- Mozilla end-user questions should be directed to: snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.general snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.win32 snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.mac snews://secnews.netscape.com:563/netscape.mozilla.user.unix Note that you need to have SSL enabled and the port set to 563.
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need user docs re transferring/importing archived mail
Hi, I noticed a big gap in your documentation on netscape mail. (I posted it also as a bug report with mozilla). (And by the way, I'm suffering now trying to figure out the right way to do it) Often I backup my mail to a CD and have a need for viewing them on other machines. I can copy the folders to the local system, but for the life of me, I have no clue what steps to take to be able to view archived mail on the new system. I've done it once before way back when, and I'm sure I'll figure it out, but the online help documentation needs to contain specific directions about how to import old folders to the mail client. For example, what is the necessary directory structure and what settings need to be added or modified? Ironically, it's significantly easier to import Outlook or Eudora mail than to import old Netscape/Mozilla folders. In fact, the import button doesn't do anything for old Netscape mail. This is an extremely common need, and quite frankly, my difficulty in importing old netscape folders has made me reluctant to use Mozilla mail very much. I know the answer exist somewhere on a newsgroup, but this needs to be in the documentation itself. Below are the major categories for documentation. I would propose that Exporting and Transferring old Mail to Netscape be an additional category on the same level as the categories below. Using the Mail Account Setup Wizard Setting Up Additional Mail and News Accounts Changing the Settings for an Account Viewing or Changing Your Identity Settings Choosing Between IMAP and POP3 Mail Servers Setting POP Server Information Setting IMAP Server Information Setting Newsgroup Server Information Choosing Settings for Copies and Folders Choosing Offline and Disk Space Settings Choosing Addressing Settings Choosing Outgoing SMTP Server Settings Using Instant Messenger with Netscape Mail
Re: Shortcut Keys - Sending Mail
CTRL-S, I believe, has always saved a copy of the msg as draft (NS 4.x). CTRL-Enter is what I knew from NS 4.x (to send a composed email) and there's some discussion about the whole affair. Examine bug 20336 , and cast a vote for that bug, if it's important to ya! Cheeers, scott James wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> Hello,I have recently installed the latest milestone version of Mozilla0.9.3 and have been enjoying using it immensley.The one thing that I am finding frustrating is that when I write anemail I have to actually use the mouse and there is so shortcut key.using Ctrl-S saves the darn message to drafts!I have searched the preferences menus but have found no enlightenmentCan anyone help?ThanksJames
Shortcut Keys - Sending Mail
Hello, I have recently installed the latest milestone version of Mozilla 0.9.3 and have been enjoying using it immensley. The one thing that I am finding frustrating is that when I write an email I have to actually use the mouse and there is so shortcut key. using Ctrl-S saves the darn message to drafts! I have searched the preferences menus but have found no enlightenment ... Can anyone help? Thanks James
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