Re: Error on Mozilla Install

2001-03-30 Thread Daniel Veditz

Ian Davey wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neville Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Installed mozilla 0.8.1 using mozilla-installer and experienced the
> >following error, but mozilla operates.
> >
> >Error [-621] An installation module (.xpi) failed to install.
> >
> >Curious as to what this may be or mean in respect to lost functionality
> >as everything seems to be OK.
> 
> I've been getting the same thing for the nightlies. I've no idea what causes
> it. It's not even clear which particular xpi is causing the message.

I believe it's the talkback module, which hasn't been built correctly lately
due to server problems.

-Dan Veditz




Re: Porting javascript to Mozilla

2001-03-30 Thread jesus X

Daniel Veditz wrote:
> The "javascript engine" has nothing to do with most people's site
> scripting problems.

Right, I mentioned it's the engine group, as opposed to a Javascript
newsgroup.

> That group has to do with the internal workings of javascript, not
> with specific browser objects or DHTML coding. Avoiding misdirected
> questions like this is part of why they chose the cryptic "jseng" name
> for the group.

Yes, I seem to have forgotten to point him to comp.lang.javascript. Sorry
about that. =-]

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Re: Porting javascript to Mozilla

2001-03-30 Thread jesus X

Rick wrote:
> If anyone wants to take a look at a short page, let me know.  I'd like
> Mozilla users to be able to use this government site.

Ok, let' try this again. URL please? :) If you post the URL, we can look at
it, and make recommendations.

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why wont mozilla open??

2001-03-30 Thread mark edwards

extreme newbie question:

i am using msn.  mozilla will NOT open when my msn window is open; instead,
it waits until my msn window closes first.

(netscape6 is doing the same thing)

any thoughts or suggestions??  windows/me 4.90.3000


thank you,  mark edwards






Re: Error on Mozilla Install

2001-03-30 Thread Neville Cobb

Simon Fraser wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey) wrote:
> 
> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neville Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Installed mozilla 0.8.1 using mozilla-installer and experienced the 
>>> following error, but mozilla operates.
>>> 
>>> Error [-621] An installation module (.xpi) failed to install.
>>> 
>>> Curious as to what this may be or mean in respect to lost functionality 
>>> as everything seems to be OK.
>> 
>> I've been getting the same thing for the nightlies. I've no idea what causes 
>> it. It's not even clear which particular xpi is causing the message.
> 
> 
> You can look at the install log files to obtain this information; they
> are in the destination directory, I believe. Please do so, and file a 
> bug.
> 
> Simon

After viewing the log it's the talkback.xpi





Correct behavior?

2001-03-30 Thread Rick

I've inherited some code that uses DHTML to display columns and rows.
Each row alternates the background color.
With IE, if the column value is empty, a background is still painted.
With Netscape and Mozilla, if the column value is empty the background is
not painted.
Which is the correct behavior?






Re: Start-Up behavior

2001-03-30 Thread Christian Mattar

Hi!

JTK wrote:
> 
> Christopher Jahn wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > I see no evidence that XP will be any better than any other MS
> > peice of bloatware.
> >
> 
> Memory required for Mozilla to display a blank page: ~20MB.
> 
> Don't cry to Redmond or anybody else about 'bloatware' until you remove
> that beam from your eye, friend.

Yes, but: Is Mozilla 1.0, i.e. ready for prime time? NS thinks so,
Mozilla obviously doesn't.
And did you pay $$$ for Mozilla? Nope, you haven't (at least I hope you
haven't :-) ). Basically you get something for nothing, so how can
anybody complain?
(Don't get me wrong, please *do* complain about stuff that doesn't get
fixed or mozilla.org politics, or else it won't change)

Christian




Re: Start-Up behavior

2001-03-30 Thread JTK

Christopher Jahn wrote:

[snip]
 
> I see no evidence that XP will be any better than any other MS
> peice of bloatware.
>

Memory required for Mozilla to display a blank page: ~20MB.

Don't cry to Redmond or anybody else about 'bloatware' until you remove
that beam from your eye, friend.




Re: Error on Mozilla Install

2001-03-30 Thread Simon Fraser

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Davey) wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neville Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >Installed mozilla 0.8.1 using mozilla-installer and experienced the 
> >following error, but mozilla operates.
> >
> >Error [-621] An installation module (.xpi) failed to install.
> >
> >Curious as to what this may be or mean in respect to lost functionality 
> >as everything seems to be OK.
> 
> I've been getting the same thing for the nightlies. I've no idea what causes 
> it. It's not even clear which particular xpi is causing the message.

You can look at the install log files to obtain this information; they
are in the destination directory, I believe. Please do so, and file a 
bug.

Simon

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We need janitors

2001-03-30 Thread Gervase Markham

This is a "think piece" :-)

This is abridged from this week's Linux Weekly News (http://lwn.net). Do
we need something like this? Having three patches waiting for review and
another three for super-review, how can we lower the barrier to entry for
contribution while maintaining code quality?

Can we remove the sr= restriction for all whitespace and comment-only
changes? Can we give people checkin rights on the understanding that they
only check in such changes? Polish is getting more and more important as
we approach 1.0, and the core developers just don't have time.

Ideas welcomed...

"The last few months have seen a flurry of activity from a group of
developers known, informally, as "kernel janitors." As suggested by their
name, the janitors make it their job to clean up messes in the kernel code
base. Recent contributions include fixing a mass of erroneous user space
pointer dereferences, straightening out inconsistent treatment of kernel
locks, and even hundreds of spelling fixes. 

This project raises an interesting question. The need for janitorial work
is reasonably clear. Any large body of code is going to have its dark,
dusty areas in need of a serious sweeping, and the kernel is a larger and
more complex body than many. And the janitors have noted an important
point: an error pattern that is found in one section of code has a high
likelihood of recurring in other places. Once a particular type of mistake
has been found, it makes great sense to go looking for instances of the
same mistake elsewhere. This is essentially the same approach as that used
by the OpenBSD team to root out security problems before they are
exploited. 

In fact, janitorial work can be a good entry path for aspiring kernel
hackers. Performing major surgery on the kernel and getting the changes
past the gatekeepers can be an intimidating prospect; small and obvious
bug fixes are a much easier start. And they can lead to bigger things: 

The organization of the janitors can be seen as another sign of "growing
up" in the Linux community. As the kernel grows and evolves, organizations
develop around it to keep things clean and ensure the quality and
stability of the code base. At some point, the kernel may even have an
organized patch management scheme, regression tests, and other tools that
many development projects have taken for granted for some time.

The kernel, meanwhile, is far from the only large development project in
the free software community. No doubt, many other projects should look at
the kernel janitors organization and consider setting up something
similar. The benefits, in terms of improved code and a better supply of
new hackers, could be both large and
immediate."





Sidebar is transparent to X server

2001-03-30 Thread Charlie Zender

Hi,

I've been running the Linux nightly builds and for about the past month
the sidebar on my navigator and mail windows (under "bookmarks") has
been full of X garbage. I gather this is a known bug on the ATI rage
card but it also occurs on my
Diamond Viper 770D AGP PCI video adapter with 16Mb of SGRAM
(NVidia RIVA TNT2 chipset).

My US$0.02,
Charlie





Re: Porting javascript to Mozilla

2001-03-30 Thread Rick

No code has changed, but it works now.  I have no idea why.  The rest of the
note was typed before I tried it again.

--
I don't think it's a javascript problem.  It may be the way IBM Enterprise
Information Portal forwards you
to it's dynamic pages.  The checkFields() code gets called, as I've hit it
when entering invalid data.
When submit is called, the browser tries to read the current directory (a
href="") which is not allowed.

I've removed the angle brackets to try to keep viewers from running the
code.

META content="MSHTML 5.00.2920.0" name=GENERATOR
...
/script
form action="./logon.jsp" name="form"  method="post"
INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="action" VALUE=""
...
TD align=middle colSpan=2 width="100%"
a href="" onClick="if(checkFields()){ submit(); return false;} else return
false;"img src="./images/LogInButton.jpg" height=27 width=80
border=0/a 
a href="" onclick="reset(); return false;"IMG src="./images/ClearButton.jpg"
height=27 width=80 border=0/A 
a href="" onClick="actionlogout(); if(checkFields()){ submit(); return
false;} else return false;"img src="./images/LogOffButton.jpg" height=27
width=80 border=0/a

If everything works well, the logon jsp's HTML ends up being:

 %>
jsp:forward page="./hello.jsp" /
<%

"Daniel Veditz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> jesus X wrote:
> >
> > Rick wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm updating some javascript for a government site, and I'd like to
make
> > > any changes necessary for it to run with Mozilla.  The code was
> > > originally generated with Microsoft tools, so I'm suprised that it
even
> > > works under Netscape.  The logon page fails when loaded with Mozilla,
so
> > > I'd like to know where I can post the code and have it evaluated.
> >
> > Well, the netscape.public.mozilla.jseng is the Javascript engine
newsgroup
> > (not Javascript english as the name would suggest), but it'd be best to
post
> > an URL to the code, as opposed to the whole code. I'd like a peek at it
as
> > well.
>
> The "javascript engine" has nothing to do with most people's site
scripting
> problems. That group has to do with the internal workings of javascript,
not
> with specific browser objects or DHTML coding. Avoiding misdirected
> questions like this is part of why they chose the cryptic "jseng" name for
> the group.
>
> -Dan Veditz






Re: Porting javascript to Mozilla

2001-03-30 Thread Rick

Nope, Palm Beach County, of US Presidential election fame.

"Gervase Markham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > While I'm able to slipstream changes to make the page Mozilla friendly,
I
> > don't have project time to debug :-(.
>
> Then whoever specced the timings for your project needs their head
> examining :-)
>
> > If anyone wants to take a look at a short
> > page, let me know.  I'd like Mozilla users to be able to use this
> > government site.
>
> If you are doing a government (I assume you mean US Government) project,
> you have to major on accessibility - which should mean writing to
> standards all the way through, right? :-)
>
> Gerv






Re: Start-Up behavior

2001-03-30 Thread Christopher Jahn

And it came to pass that Wayne Alligood wrote:

>Jahn,
>
>What OS do you suggest that I use?
>
Use whatever suits you.  Windows no longer suits me.
Me, I'm in the process of switching to Linux.

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Re: Error on Mozilla Install

2001-03-30 Thread Ian Davey

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neville Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Installed mozilla 0.8.1 using mozilla-installer and experienced the 
>following error, but mozilla operates.
>
>Error [-621] An installation module (.xpi) failed to install.
>
>Curious as to what this may be or mean in respect to lost functionality 
>as everything seems to be OK.

I've been getting the same thing for the nightlies. I've no idea what causes 
it. It's not even clear which particular xpi is causing the message.

ian.

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Error on Mozilla Install

2001-03-30 Thread Neville Cobb

Installed mozilla 0.8.1 using mozilla-installer and experienced the 
following error, but mozilla operates.

Error [-621] An installation module (.xpi) failed to install.

Curious as to what this may be or mean in respect to lost functionality 
as everything seems to be OK.

Nev





Re: Incoming messages problem

2001-03-30 Thread Neville Cobb

Neville Cobb wrote:

> I'm running mozilla 0.8.1 and am experiencing the same problem as i've 
> had with the others in that when mail arrives it shows the 1st one in 
> the folders they are filtered into - even though there could be any 
> number that just cam into that folder it only shows that 1 arrived. When 
> I click on the folder I just see the one. It makes no difference if I 
> shut down mozzilla. I've tried new installs of linux mandrake and every 
> combination that I can think of but it still behaves the same. The news 
> folders display the correct ammounts but the mail folders don't. Any clues?
> 
> Nev

I just completed a reinstall of 0.8.1 using mozilla-installer and have 
notived that the inbox mesage counter ticks over but where the messages 
are sent to other folders using the filters, the counter remains at (1) 
even though many messges have been filtered into that folder.





Re: downtime for news.mozilla.org, Friday March 30

2001-03-30 Thread hume . spamfilter

Gervase Markham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeeha! New newsgroup names, here we come...

And perhaps Xref: included in the overview data?  Pretty please?  :)

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Re: downtime for news.mozilla.org, Friday March 30

2001-03-30 Thread Gervase Markham

> The mozilla news server will be down Friday,
> March 30 while the machine is moved to a new
> facility.
> 
> The move should begin between 5:00-6:00pm PST
> and last anywhere between 30 minutes and 3 hours.

Yeeha! New newsgroup names, here we come...

Gerv