Re: mozilla 0.9.6 -- a step back?

2001-11-22 Thread Peter Lairo

Christian Biesinger wrote:

 - the print preview function has no undo (besides doing a reload) ...
 why not opening a separate (browser-)window for the preview?
 
 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109121
 It was decided that a undo isn't necessary.


That was a bad descision. I too had difficulties figuring out how get 
out of print preview. This should be reconsidered - maybe a 
*discoverable* button should appear during print previwe called Close 
Print Preview (or similar).

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Re: mozilla 0.9.6 -- a step back?

2001-11-22 Thread Navneet Karnani

I support this requirement. It is logical to just open a new browser 
window to display the Print Preview. This will fix all the issues raised 
in the bug.

- Navneet

On 11/22/2001 3:01 PM, Peter Lairo wrote:

 Christian Biesinger wrote:
 
 - the print preview function has no undo (besides doing a reload) ...
 why not opening a separate (browser-)window for the preview?


 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109121
 It was decided that a undo isn't necessary.
 
 
 
 That was a bad descision. I too had difficulties figuring out how get 
 out of print preview. This should be reconsidered - maybe a 
 *discoverable* button should appear during print previwe called Close 
 Print Preview (or similar).
 





WARNING: BrowserG could destroy your Mozilla Profile!

2001-11-22 Thread Peter Lairo

I suggest to *not* test or use BrowserG until this serious issue is
resolved.

I have posted a description of this serious problem in the bug shown below:

Installing BrowserG causes Regular Mozilla Profile to Stop Functioning
http://mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=676


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Re: mozilla 0.9.6 -- a step back?

2001-11-22 Thread Peter Lairo

Navneet Karnani wrote:

 I support this requirement. It is logical to just open a new browser 
 window to display the Print Preview. This will fix all the issues raised 
 in the bug.


maybe a *chromeless* window ;)

-- 

Regards,

Peter Lairo





Re: mozilla 0.9.6 -- a step back?

2001-11-22 Thread Peter Lairo

Peter Lairo wrote:

 maybe a *chromeless* window ;)


...with only a *Close* and a *Print* button.

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Re: mozilla 0.9.6 -- a step back?

2001-11-22 Thread Steinar Kaaro

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
   Geraint Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter Lairo wrote:

 Peter Lairo wrote:
 
 maybe a *chromeless* window ;)
 
 
 
 ...with only a *Close* and a *Print* button.
 

You should also have a 'page setup' button.  Currently you can change to 
landscape, modify margins, select printer etc. only when you actually 
print.  In fact I couldn't figure out how to set up a preview in 
landscape mode at all :-(.


Couldn't agree more. The only way to get a landscape preview, is to print the 
page in landscape, and then do a preview...
I also believe there should be some sort of print scaling. The preview often 
show some of the content beyond the edge of the paper, and then what do you 
do?

Steinar Kaarø




yahoo privacy

2001-11-22 Thread Hilkiah Lavinier

Hi, does anyone know how I can get mozilla to store my login info for 
mail.yahoo.com

I know it can cause the first time I switched from NS4.7x to Mozilla 0.9.x 
(can't remember the 'x's), it used to do it.  However, I've never been 
able to replicate this.

Any ideas?

HL





Mozilla 0.9.6 Java Plug-in 1.3.1_01 no go?

2001-11-22 Thread VH

I downloaded the latest Java Plugin from Sun
http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html

It's version 1.3.1_01 but it does not work in Mozilla 0.9.6.

So I had to install the 1.3.1 and now I got 2 java installs and 2
control panel applets.

Is there a way to get version 1.3.1_01 to work?

/VH





Re: Favicon spam

2001-11-22 Thread Ian Davey

Greg Miller wrote:

 Last I heard, the industry averages were supposed to be something 
 like 3:1 pageviews-to-users ratio and 50% repeat visitors. So the 
 number of favicon 404s would be approximately 1/6 of the total number 
 of pageviews.

 That would only be true if every site consisted of just a single page, 
 which is clearly untrue. From what I've read so far, the current 
 implementation requests the favicon once for each domain.
 
 Erm, no. It would be *untrue* if each site consisted of a single page.


Yeah, sorry, I misread what you'd written. Is this per web site, or per 
domain name? I'm not sure how relevant those figures are anyway, they 
certainly don't gell with the patterns I've seen on sites on which I 
have access to the statistics. There are few sites these days on which 
you can navigate to what you what by visiting just three pages, and 
those on which you can are likely to be part of a number of sites hosted 
on a single domain (i.e. geocities.com). I imagine the above industry 
averages are largely influenced by behemoths like AOL and MSN.

 account the average number of images/stylesheets/javascript appearing 
 in external files. As this should be based on resources requested, not 
 pageviews as that is misleading.
 
 I thought I was quite clear about the fact that this was only a matter 
 of pageviews. I don't know of any good web-wide stats for requests or 
 bandwidth, and I suspect no useful stats could be determined since 
 things vary too widely.

Personally I think in this case specific examples would be far more 
useful than industry averages anyway, as they are far to swayed by huge 
hosts.


 You should probably also take into account the % of /favicon.ico 
 associated with domains, as those wouldn't appear as 404s (i.e. 
 Netscape Enterprise Server seems to come with one as default).
 
 
 
  From a bandwidth perspective, those are even worse than 404s. As I 
 mentioned before, averages are no consolation to the people getting hit 
 with worst-case scenarios.


But I thought part of your argument was about 404 errors in weblogs, these

wouldn't occur when favicons already exist, so in that case its no more 
a bandwidth problem than any other image. The 404 issue is the major 
problem with this, requesting resources that don't exist, rather than 
the bandwidth.

ian.








Re: yahoo privacy

2001-11-22 Thread Geraint Edwards

Try

Edit/Preferences/Privacy  Security/Web Passwords/View Stored 
Passwords/Passwords Never Saved and clear mail.yahoo.com from the list :-)

Hilkiah Lavinier wrote:

 Hi, does anyone know how I can get mozilla to store my login info for 
 mail.yahoo.com
 
 I know it can cause the first time I switched from NS4.7x to Mozilla 0.9.x 
 (can't remember the 'x's), it used to do it.  However, I've never been 
 able to replicate this.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 HL
 
 


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Re: Favicon spam

2001-11-22 Thread Ian Davey

Greg Miller wrote:

 
 That's not a terrible increase in bandwidth (the exact figures would 
 depend on protocol overhead and such), but web hosts have a nasty habit 
 of charging for disk space, which often includes the space for those log 
 files that shoot up by over 20% if everyone adopts this favicon practice 
 or 7% with the hypothetical 30% marketshare that was mentioned earlier.


It might be going out on a limb, but it sounds as though the real 
bandwidth problem is the collection of logfiles to generate 
statistics...  I've encountered this, the logfiles tend to take up far 
more space than the websites they cater for and quickly eat up gigabytes 
of space, but this is really a different issue that argues for better 
management of logfiles.

If your site is small I see little point in collecting anything but 
minimal filtered statistics, a summary rather than lots of raw data.

As a user I've found the feature quite useful, especially when using 
tabbed browsing, and I can't see that either Mozilla, Konqueror or even 
Netscape, have the clout to get people to put link's to a favicon on 
every page of their site. Whereas I've been surprised by how many sites 
do have them...

Though, as useful as I find this, I think that checking for favicons when:

1) bookmarking
2) visiting a bookmarked site without a cached 404 for the favicon

would be a better compromise than the current one. The reason being that 
you'd get a favicon for you most visited sites. Why would I want an icon 
cached for any old site I just happened to visit? They're only really 
useful for sites I visit regularly. 2) is for sites I already haved 
bookmarked which may not yet have acquired a favicon. It may cause a bit 
of noise in logs, but a far more acceptable amount, takes advantage of 
the caching of favicon status and only comes from visitors who care 
enough to bookmark your pages. You could also have a pref use favourite 
icons for bookmarks to let this be turned on or off.

ian.





Re: [Fwd: ] you can try this mail

2001-11-22 Thread MADOG

Travis Crump wrote:
 
 It displays perfectly though I can't read Chinese I can pick out that
 they are all valid characters... The subject doesn't display correctly
 in the title bar on Windows, but this is a known limitation and as I
 understand it very hard to fix since the look of it is controlled
 internally by windows. The subject comes out fine in both the header
 pane and the mailbox content's list pane...

exactly !

btw, since both the header pane and the content pane display correctly, 
i wonder why he wants to check the title ? i know i never ...



Re: delete mail

2001-11-22 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.

If netscape 6 / Mozilla works with this as Communicator - and you
haven't emptied  the trash in N6 / Mozilla 
choose view  messages  all you should be able to see all your mail. If
you have emptied the trash and the folder has been compacted then the
mail is gone.

Also with Imap you need to go to Mail set up locate the command  remove
mail from mail server when removed locally or something equiv.  Be sure
to check this on periodically or else you imap provider will be an
unhappy camper.

lambliu wrote:
 
 apparently, Netscape marked this mail instead remove it
 but can you tell me what mark netscape used?
 I want get my mail back.
 
 thanks.
 
 Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:
 
  Garth Wallace wrote:
 
  lambliu wrote:
 
   Hi,
When I delete a mail from imap server or local folder,
   it seems that netscape dose not really delete it, in stead,
   it  delete something so I can not see that mail in netscape
   but my mailbox  become larger and larger.
   How can netscape delete the mail really for me?
  
  Compact Folders
 
  Should that not be a bug?
  In Communicator everytime you empty the trash within communicator it
  automatically Compacts the folders.
  Just asking. Not trying to start a fight.
 

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Re: Can't get to Hotmail

2001-11-22 Thread Christopher Jahn

[posted and mailed]

And it came to pass that CSM Dave wrote:

 Using Win98 and Netscape 4.7.5, for the past few days each
 time I try to access Hotmail.com, I get the message no data
 found. I can access Hotmail using IE 5.5. Why can't I get
 to Hotmail? TIA
 
 

Communicator 4.7 is off topic here.  This group is for 
discussion of the new Mozilla browser package, which is 
unrelated to Communicator.

SEE snews://secnews.netscape.com/netscape.communicator


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Re: Moz mail

2001-11-22 Thread alpha

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], n@a says...
 alpha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 20 Nov 2001: 
  
  I see that you think that I'm a idiot who can't set up a mail
  account. But after been using alot of difftrent mail clients and
  when using mozilla mail and when I cannot set it up in the normal
  time (WITH THE CORRECT) L/PW,mail  smtp servers and it still does
  not work. 
  
  Then who is it to blame, me or... maybe is this to difficult to
  setup. 
  
 
 You are to blame:
 Edit, ...Account Settings, Add Account:
 ISP or Email provider, Name  Email address, POP/IMAP, server name, 
 Username, account name.  Why is this hard?

After really diggin into mozilla I did finaly last night get moz mail to 
work!.

But the problems have not had anyhting to do with the tips I have been 
given here!.






Re: Finding talkback incident data

2001-11-22 Thread Christian Biesinger

Michael Gratton wrote:

 Is there anyway to get at the stack trace reported in a Talkback 
 incident? I clicked Send accidently before looking at the trace and 
 I'd really like to see where the thing is crashing.

The talkback client itself does not give a stack trace anyway.

The only way to get it would be to file a bugzilla bug, give the 
talkback id there and then somebody can get the stack trace and attach 
it to the bug.





Re: Permission denied to get property Window.scriptglobals

2001-11-22 Thread Jeff Miller

I was wondering if anyone ever found a solution for this error. I am
encountering the same problem, however it is when I try an change a
location of a frameset using JavaScript.
Thanks,
Jeff

Yatsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:9rh2dk$ltv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Can someone tell me what this means, or rather what (generally) triggers 
 this?
 
 I recall getting this error when trying to use javascript to fillin a form 
 in a different frame, on a different site. This shouldn't be possible, 
 should it?
 
 Asking too many questions again :)
 
 - William




Printing page setup

2001-11-22 Thread ZZT

Hi,

in NS 4.x there was an option to set the border and the includes on the 
printout. I miss this option in mozilla 0.9x / NS6. Can anybody help me?

thanks a lot





Re: mozilla 0.9.6 -- a step back?

2001-11-22 Thread Jay Garcia

Andrea Monni wrote:

 Peter Lairo wrote:
 

 maybe a *chromeless* window ;)


 ...with only a *Close* and a *Print* button.
 
 
 
 ... and a button for choosing how many pages show in the screen, a' la
 MS Office.
 
 Andrea

I use FinePrint http://www.fineprint.com .. It installs as a Printer
and has all the features of print preview, multiple pages, etc .

This of course isn't a fix but rather a nice alternative.


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Re: Printing page setup

2001-11-22 Thread Christopher Jahn

And it came to pass that ZZT wrote:

 Hi,
 
 in NS 4.x there was an option to set the border and the
 includes on the printout. I miss this option in mozilla 0.9x
 / NS6. Can anybody help me? 
 
 thanks a lot
 

JAy just posted this in re: mozilla 0.9.6 - a step back?;


I use FinePrint http://www.fineprint.com .. It installs as a 
Printer
and has all the features of print preview, multiple pages, etc 
.

This of course isn't a fix but rather a nice alternative.



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is there any way to get past this script?

2001-11-22 Thread Patrick Gallagher

A website (www.canadasportswear.com) is using this script to ban all 
Netscape and Mozilla branded browsers from their site, or rather the 
webdesigner they hired to do their web design did so.  I've managed to 
get into pages beyond the frontpage, and for the most part Mozilla 
handles it perfectly (there are a couple IE Only features, but nothing 
integral to the functionality or appearance of the site) - but I can't 
figure out how to get into the site through the front door using Moz, 
changing the UA string doesn't seem to work - is there anything else 
that might do the trick?

If anyone wants to pull an Evangelism trip, his phone number is on the 
website.

/script
csbrowser href=netscape.html ns=0,0,0,0,0 ie=0,0,1,1,1
script!--
var skipPage = true; bAgent = window.navigator.userAgent; bAppName = 
window.navigator.appName; bMozIdx = bAgent.indexOf(Mozilla/);
if ((bAppName.indexOf(Explorer) = 0)  (bAgent.indexOf(Mozilla/4) 
 = 0)) skipPage = false;
if ((bAppName.indexOf(Explorer) = 0)  (bAgent.indexOf(Mozilla/5) 
 = 0)) skipPage = false;
if ((bAppName.indexOf(Explorer) = 0)  (bMozIdx = 0) 
(parseInt(bAgent.substring(bMozIdx+8, bMozIdx+10)) = 6)) skipPage = 
false;
if (skipPage) { location = /*URL*/'netscape.html'; }

//--/script

Patrick





Re: mozilla 0.9.6 -- a step back?

2001-11-22 Thread Alejandro Alvarez Melcon

Yes but this does not work other than windows

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Mozilla 0.9.6, ummmm

2001-11-22 Thread Alejandro Alvarez Melcon

I have upgraded to 0.9.6 from 0.9.5. Things work pretty nice,
but about:plugins seems to not like plugger.so. The page
just shows plugger.so and then it stops; it does not show
any other plugins. If I remove plugger.so then it shows all
plugins in the system. What if more curious is that plugins
seems to work even if they are not displayed in about:plugins.
Anyone has the same problem?.

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Re: is there any way to get past this script?

2001-11-22 Thread Henri Sivonen

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patrick Gallagher 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A website (www.canadasportswear.com) is using this script to ban all 
 Netscape and Mozilla branded browsers from their site

In addition, it has got:
* a Flash intro
* a script that makes the window cover the entire screen
* meta name=generator content=Adobe GoLive 5

Anyway, the site works in Opera if the UA string is spoofed. 
Apparently, they want document.all in addition to the browser name.

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Re: is there any way to get past this script?

2001-11-22 Thread Ryan

Will do :)


Christopher Jahn wrote:

 And it came to pass that Ryan wrote:
 
 
I sent them an e-mail message,

 
 If you hear back, I'd love to read their response.
 
 






Updated Spel checker faq

2001-11-22 Thread Gerv

Does Mozilla have a spell checker?

Yes, but the only copy is on my computer, send me your emails and I will 
check them for you.




I mean does it include one with the distribution

No. I alreedy no how to spel.





Will Version 1.0 of Mozila include a spel cheker?

No, version 1 will only include a telnet client for mail.  You may 
telnet to the smtp port you wish to send an email  and type your email. 
I don't need to recieve mail so thats all I'm programming.

Version 2 will include a copy of Pine but we will remove the spell 
checker to saave space. Remember, open source code must alway use the 
least lines of code even if critial features are missing.

Version 3 will include an arabic only spel checker.  The mail reader in 
mozilla is such a piece of shit only people in third world countries 
will use it anyway.





I wont use Mozilla if it doesn't have a spel checker.

Good, we don't want anyone to use it.  The only reason I wrote a mail 
client was to pass my highschool BASIC programming class.




Well I am your customer and the customer is alway right.

Mozilla does not have customers, users and hardly any developers.  In 
fact, we are suprised the web site is still up.




Couldn't someone post a reasonable explaination of why there isn't a 
spel checker on mozilla's web site insead of these dumb faqs?

Look, I hardly have enough time get to school and code the mail class. 
After programing class I only have 10 minutes to get changed for gym 
class.  If I'm late the basketball team will give me another atomic wedgy.


-Gerv





Re: Updated Spel checker faq

2001-11-22 Thread DeMoN LaG

Gerv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 22 Nov 2001: 

 
 Does Mozilla have a spell checker?
 
 -Gerv
 

I dunno, I think the last one was more sarcastic...

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