RE: [Mpls] Steve Belton v. Thandiwe Peebles
Dan McGuire wrote: > The important question is - will the new employment > conditions work, in the short term and for the long > term? Steve Belton is someone who has considerable > experience with the MPS staff. It would be reckless > to discount his opinion. Where do Mr. Belton's loyalties lie? With the staff? With the teachers? With the DFL? Whose loyalties lie with the students? Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Steve Belton v. Thandiwe Peebles
Michael Hohmann wrote: The chief executive,the superintendent in this case, should have a high degree of control over the direct reports that will be helping develop/implement major policy initiatives... seems to me anyway. Do policy/administrative/mgmt -type positions normally hold tenure in the public schools? The important question is - will the new employment conditions work, in the short term and for the long term? Steve Belton is someone who has considerable experience with the MPS staff. It would be reckless to discount his opinion. Dan McGuire REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Teacher turnover, excessive lay offs, and the law
Diane Wiley wrote: I know this is just anecdotal, but I heard, again, from another long time teacher with a GREAT reputation, that s/he after being tranferred due to the mess last year, is now being "excessed" [which means s/he will probably be called back, but who knows] and has just had it and is looking to move to a different district. It makes me sick. Indeed, teachers are being moved around and out. Very little of the movement is because of any state law or to enhance student achievement. Most of the movement is due to the school closings and administrative decisions to lop off teachers and programs without first making qualitative decisions. Dan McGuire Ericsson / (Northrop) ? REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Insanity
I decided that whoever, and I cannot recall if it was Jesse Or Timmy that said it was ok for fireworks to be legal; should be hung upside down- that we know now; in just a tiny way what war sounds like. Even all the fireworks in Powderhorn, probably did not sound as bad as it did in Fallujah. Gina Palandri Standish -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Park Agenda and Eloise Butler update
My limited understanding of the agenda process is that the President of the MPRB as well as the Superintendent ( with help of staff ) set the agenda for the regular meeting. The chair of each committee ( Planning, Admin and Finance, Operations and Environment, Recreation, Legislative and Standards and Conduct) sets the committee agenda with staff. If you are not a chair you can ask to have something brought before a committee but that is at the discretion of the chair. The present chair of the Planning Committee is Commissioner Fine. ( the website could certainly be more specific about this whole agenda procedure) Most (but not all i.e. DeLaSalle) projects follow a planning format http://www.minneapolisparks.org/default.asp?PageID=35 There is a chart you can click to see. Many involve community meetings ( if your address is within 3 blocks of the project you should get mailed notification as well as your neighborhood association receiving something) and then a presentation before the planning committee with a chance for community input. The date of the meeting is sent to those in the radius as well as anyone who attends one of the earlier meetings.This was the process used for the St. Anthony Parkway Plan on tomorrow's agenda. So watch your mail for those little colored postcards and if you are concerned about other projects around town try http://www.minneapolisparks.org/default.asp?PageID=33 This is the list of current projects and the contact person is listed. Though there is a list of current projects, it would be nice to have a link to see what is coming down the pipeline so there are fewer of the "surprises" that create such havoc. I know there is a list of sorts as Director Reitkirk of the Planning Department was kind enough to let me know that the building in my park would not have any renovations until 2007 at the earliest ( and I asked about that last year) and with funding being an issue that date was tentative at best. What I found curious was how Solomon Park jumped into the list so quickly ahead of how many parks? I know that some projects have to be coordinated with federal $$ ( like the Grand Rounds) but just because the MPRB traded some land and ended up with Solomon Park doesn't mean it should jump ahead of Jordan Park , whose delays Commissioner Olson mentions frequently. The MPRB is not known for its transparency in operations, especially where budgeting and planning are concerned. I am hoping that the folks running as reform candidates will do something about this after they are elected in November. The MPRB gets a huge chunk of my property tax dollars and I would like more detailed information about how it is spent Liz Wielinski Columbia Park ( who got 2 postcards for the St. Anthony Parkway Plan at the MPRB tomorrow, one for resident and one to Liz who attended 2 of the 3 meetings) http://www.parkboardreform.org http://www.mplsparkwatch.org REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] REGARDING MY EARLIER POST:COMMENTS
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At times it seems as though more police would be needed. However, more police would not be needed if the infrastructure of the area were more economically sound. Or if the city’s empowerment zone would allow dollars to those wishing to start their own businesses, other than nails; liquor; knock off clothing stores, and corner “hood” stores selling outdated WIC (Women Infant‘s and Children), in addition to selling cigarettes cheaper than any other place in the city.<< JP: I agree wholeheartedly with Vanessa. A clear connection can be seen between the economic investment in a community and the amount of crime and poverty that exists there. The higher the investment, the lower the other two become. Sound economic investment is key to diminishing and ultimately eradicating crime from areas. To that end, while the Empowerment Zone has put funding into a number of businesses and initiatives, it has never put money into "nails; liquor; knock off clothing stores, and corner “hood” stores selling outdated WIC (Women Infant‘s and Children)" to my knowledge. In my mind, that approach would be counterproductive to helping the community. What we have funded are places like Café Tata Bunna, El Amin's Fish House, Lucille's Kitchen, the Franklin Bakery, Siyeza and a host of others. We also provide funds through the West Broadway Area Coalition for West Broadway businesses to do façade improvements and we provide free technical assistance and small business loans to EZ business through four providers: NRRC, WomenVenture, MCCD and Whittier CDC. In fact in the course of our 5 1/2 years, $10.4 Million (of our $25.8 Million) has been committed to 34 economic development projects and initiatives, which have served 1,174 persons, trained 170 residents and created or retained 485 resident jobs. 65 EZ business loans have been processed and 441 EZ businesses have received technical assistance. Many people are not fully aware of what we do and don't do, I encourage people to check out our website (www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/ez) or email me directly at work at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any questions. On our end, we're trying to get the word out more of the resources we have to offer. In addition, the City has a great Business Finance division which works with businesses to find resources and funding, they even put out a free guide on how to start a business. Bob Lind heads that up, and is another great person to talk with. Bottom line is that both the EZ and the Business Finance division are here to help and have been assisting people as they start up or expand their business, primarily small businesses. Many people are not aware of the resources available to them, and I would encourage anyone to contact my office or other divisions for assistance. Jonathan Palmer Victory REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Re: previously 'fire at will' discussion
In a message dated 7/2/2005 10:17:15 PM Central Standard Time, Mhohmann writes 'Fire at will' is a bit of a misnomer. 'At will employment' is the correct term and means simply that- if an employee is not under contract, he or she is an at-will employee. An employer can dismiss an at-will employee hired for an indefinite term at any time for any non-discriminatory reason. Doug Mann responds: An employment contract exists if there is an employer-employee relationship, even if there is not a written contract. 'At will employment' is the default status for most types of employment in Minnesota. On the other hand, Union contracts typically do not permit employers to terminate an employment contract except for just cause, lack of work, etc. Ditto for employees covered by the Teacher Tenure Act. RE: [Mpls] Steve Belton v. Thandiwe Peebles [MH] I was under the impression that the employees in question were policy/administrative/mgmt -type positions. If that is the case I see no need for tenure at all. Contracts are one thing, tenure is another (a contract+ if you will). Most public service-type employers seem to make the top administration people (i.e. those reporting directly to the chief exec. officer) 'at will' employees that serve at the pleasure of the top/chief exec. officer... Doug Mann responds: It appears that the administrative / Management types in question are not "tenured" employees. Tenured teachers, for example, may not be fired without just cause, unless their job is eliminated for reasons listed in the Teacher Tenure Act, such as declining student enrollment. However, contracts with top administrative employees have required the superintendent to show just cause for disciplinary actions, including firings. The district has also had a progressive disciplinary policy and some sort of due process for most regular employees, including the superintendents top aides. -Doug Mann, King Field former union steward and griever http://educationright.com/blog REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] re: DFL has gone to Pride/As minority/female housing die
Keith says; I a m sorry I left out the most important part of the last post. Every bit of the original post was from the archive. Tim, Both your comment and mine were from July 2002; three years ago. Remember, the bones of the DFL Demolition Juggernaut are buried in the vacant lots.The kids selling drugs on 26th Avenue are Jackie C. and SSB's; they created the hyper mobility through implementation of the DFL Demolition Agenda; home wrecking. Still fresh; huh? There are two kinds of people in a street gang; hard-core and wannabe. There are two kinds of folks in our local DFL; hard-core machine; and sincere, blithe, do-gooders. Introspection time on The List, Keith Reitman NearNorth Not affiliated with a Streetgang, nor Machine Keith Reitman NearNorth -- -- Dear Tim and List members: The World changes and stays the same. Yudda. I have found that almost every topic we present on the current List has arisen in some form in the past 4 years. The List Archive is fascinating and highly relevant today's issues. We do not have to reinvent the wheel; although we are discussing new ways to power it. Even that has been covered in the last four years. History matters. And Tim, I am thinking of writing a "day in the life of neither the best nor worst small business person called landlord"; no one would believe the s**t I shoveled just today after The 4th in the hood. Yea, we are busy. eith-Kay eitman-Ray ear-Nay orth-Nay Tim Bonham: Gee, Keith -- digging up an over-2-year-old post, and commenting on it now? Guess those "small business people called landlords" must not have much to keep them busy. Tim Bonham, Ward 12, Standish-Ericsson REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] re: DFL has gone to Pride/As minority/female housing died
Dear Tim and List members: The World changes and stays the same. Yudda. I have found that almost every topic we present on the current List has arisen in some form in the past 4 years. The List Archive is fascinating and highly relevant today's issues. We do not have to reinvent the wheel; although we are discussing new ways to power it. Even that has been covered in the last four years. History matters. And Tim, I am thinking of writing a "day in the life of neither the best nor worst small business person called landlord"; no one would believe the s**t I shoveled just today after The 4th in the hood. Yea, we are busy. eith-Kay eitman-Ray ear-Nay orth-Nay Tim Bonham: Gee, Keith -- digging up an over-2-year-old post, and commenting on it now? Guess those "small business people called landlords" must not have much to keep them busy. Tim Bonham, Ward 12, Standish-Ericsson REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Park Agenda and Eloise Butler update
>Open Time discussion is limited to items that are not scheduled for action >by the Board on the agenda< How does a person find out what is going to be on the agenda before it gets onto the agenda so that public input can be put in? I'm not being scarcastic; I am really curious as to what the process is. Someone has already said that the planning committee is closed to public input. Anne McCandless Jordan REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Bikers of Minneapolis Unite!
Dear List, Please join myself, our neighbors, and fellow bikers of Minneapolis at 6 p.m. Wednesday, July 6, as the Eastside Bicycle Task Force gathers mid-river and mid-bridge with the Northside Bicycle Task Force for a brief meeting. We'll meet at the railroad bridge near Ace Mailing, Marshall Street NE at 17th Avenue NE. We then head out to the middle of the bridge over the Mississippi River to join our Northside neighbors for a commemorative photo launching formal efforts to buy the bridge to complete a much-anticipated bike route joining North Minneapolis and Northeast/Eastside Minneapolis. This is an important event. It is vital to the City of Minneapolis Bikeways Master Plan that this connection be made as to literally bridge the diverse communities of North and Northeast. The bottleneck: Canadian Pacific Railway currently uses this bridge about once per day, and they would have to reroute their line for about a half mile and then share a rail line with a competing Railway. A a key transportation component in our campaign is a bike-friendly city. I state (website) that I support: "City of Minneapolis Bikeways Master Plan, Northeast Quadrant (2001) by authoring, advocating, and passing matching fund request to ensure 2010 completion plan. This also includes the key component (where Council leadership is crucial ) of working with Canadian Pacific Railway on rerouting the limited use railroad bridge over the Mississippi river to create path connection to the Northside." Public support is needed to urge them towards the reroute, and visibly show support for this connection. A tid-bit: Federal matching funds flow freer when connections like this one happen. Let's not miss out on this great opportunity! Of personal note, I was jumped on this bridge entrance area on the Northeast side in April of 2004 by a gang calling themselves the Gansta Disciples. About 5 guys, around 11pm, brass knuckles and all. A neighbor came to my rescue, and the cops actually arrested two of the youth involved. In fact, I got a chance to meet one perpetrator through the Restorative Justice Program and actually talked about the event and our lives, and then forgave him (as well as advocated for a lighter sentence of probation). It was quite powerful, and he is now on a much, much better path in life. Public Safety is more than a policy position for me. I have a personal connection to gang violence and am deeply committed to a just, sustainable and peaceful Minneapolis that our grandchildren can enjoy. This bike-path connection is all about that. So please. bring your friends, family, neighbors and kids of all ages, and come on your bikes. The meeting will be brief (one hour or less) so that we'll have plenty of time to get out and enjoy some bicycling and our riverfront! See you there! Aaron Neumann Candidate for Minneapolis City Council Ward 3 (Green) Neighbors for Neumann! 1828 Marshall St. NE #18 Minneapolis, MN 55418-4211 612.788.1284 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://VoteNeumann.org "Bridging Diverse Communities/Standing with People" Effective Government * Healthy Environment * Safe Communities * Arts Advocacy "Politics isn't about big money or power games; it's about the improvement of people's lives." - Paul Wellstone REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Steve Belton v. Thandiwe Peebles
Re 'at will' vs. 'contracted' employees at MPS, Michael Atherton states, in part: > There's nothing that would prohibit giving "at will" employees > more secure contracts sometime in the future. Indeed, it's > easier to go from "fire at will" to tenure, than from tenure to > "fire at will." > [MH] I was under the impression that the employees in question were policy/administrative/mgmt -type positions. If that is the case I see no need for tenure at all. Contracts are one thing, tenure is another (a contract+ if you will). Most public service-type employers seem to make the top administration people (i.e. those reporting directly to the chief exec. officer) 'at will' employees that serve at the pleasure of the top/chief exec. officer. Why should the MPS be any different? The chief executive, the superintendent in this case, should have a high degree of control over the direct reports that will be helping develop/implement major policy initiatives... seems to me anyway. Do policy/administrative/mgmt -type positions normally hold tenure in the public schools? Mike Hohmann Linden Hills REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Park Agenda and Eloise Butler update
I was able to go the Park Board and get more information about the Eloise Butler buffer issue and what is on the agenda. There were problems with getting the agenda posted online. It is now posted. There is a public hearing about the Saint Anthony Parkway Regional Park Master Plan Wed. July 6 at 5:30- this is an opportunity for the public to comment about the plan. For the Eloise Butler issue- I want to thank Planning staff for their assistance with these issues and the approx. 60 pages of background material and suggested recommendations. >From what I understand the public can speak to the action item 4.1- the approval of staff recommendations at the 5:00 planning committee meeting. What is at issue is the balance of a nature conservancy, trails and buckthorn removal and the restoration of biodiversity. The Recommendations: "Reaffirm the Board's 1964 action declaring that the primary purpose for the land surrounding Eloise Butler Wildflower Garden and Bird Sanctuary is that of a native conservatory AND that as a nature conservatory, the MPRB will work to protect and restore biodiversity within Wirth Park and balance human recreational desires with ecological needs. Recreational activities appropriate to this area include nature study, birding, hiking, walking, snowshoeing, cross country skiing, environmental education, nature focused art activities, picnicking and others deemed appropriate. This action reaffirms that biking is not allowed in the native conservancy." "The action would direct staff to develop a preferred trail overlay for this area integrated with an invasive species removal and ecosystem restoration plan for Wirth Park." In 1964 the Park Board added territory adjacent to the wildflower garden to have these areas remain in their natural state. After reading all the staff reports and documentation the thing that really strikes me are the problems of forest management and how "unhealthy" and degraded our urban forest in Wirth park has become. One letter about this issue noted the appalling condition from an ecological perspective. Buckthorn and invasive aggressive species are doing more harm to our urban forests than Dutch elm disease, but few are yet aware of how big a problem this is. Thanks, Scott VreelandSeward As a few folks have pointed out "Open time" rules are now- you can sign up before 4pm the day of the Park Board meeting, but rules still include the following- Open Time discussion is limited to items that are not scheduled for action by the Board on the agenda. REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] List members in the news
First day of filings: Terrell Brown has filed for the Ward 7 seat held by Lisa Goodman. Terrell has filed as a DFLer. Doug Mann has filed as a Green candidate for Ward 8 (has the party endorsed Reggie Birts or is that endorsement still open)? Others of note: Mark Koscielski (former gun shop owner, coiner of "Murderapolis") is running under the Pissed Off Taxpayer banner. Paul Ostrow and Gary Schiff are the first incumbents to file. Cara Letofsky in the 2nd, Diane Hofstede in the 3rd, and the indefatigable Dick Franson for mayor. David Brauer List manager REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] re: DFL has gone to Pride/As minority/female housing died
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 19:04:21 EDT In a message dated 6/8/02 4:37:15 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Nowadays, DFL delegates & voters generally will not support candidates who do not believe in equality for GLBT people, any more than they would support racist or anti-women candidates. Those candidates go to other parties for endorsement. >> Keith says; The DFL endorsed candidates ruled this City during the last 15 years. They were the 'homewreckers' who callously boarded up and demolished the affordable housing in this town. A vast percentage of poor people, those who need affordable housing, are minority and/or single female heads of household. They are the direct victims of this racist and sexist policy endorsed by the DFL. Secondary victims include small business people called landlord whose property was commandeered and destroyed; and the City as a whole. Keith ReitmanTake a close look NearNorth Gee, Keith -- digging up an over-2-year-old post, and commenting on it now? Guess those "small business people called landlords" must not have much to keep them busy. Tim Bonham, Ward 12, Standish-Ericsson REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Teacher turnover, excessive lay offs, and the law
I know this is just anecdotal, but I heard, again, from another long time teacher with a GREAT reputation, that s/he after being tranferred due to the mess last year, is now being "excessed" [which means s/he will probably be called back, but who knows] and has just had it and is looking to move to a different district. It makes me sick. Diane Wiley Tangletown REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Insanity
Connie Beckers wrote: I second Roberta Englund's post. Who's brainchild was it to legalize fireworks, anyway?!? I completely agree with Ms. Beakers' evaluation of people's situation on the northside, having been there and still there to a certain extent on the southside. The usual has been interrupted for a minute by the Lake St. Repaving Project. (I was hoping this would happen, since we have to put up with the dust, noise, and strangeness of such a major project.) After dinner at Passage to India, a friend and I drove back to Central Neighborhood and parked at the corner of 33rd and Park to watch the Powderhorn Park display. When it was over, we tootled around and saw some kids behaving very responsibly and supervisedly with sparklers and rockets. After parking across from my house, we sat on the front steps and watched an hour-long display put on by one of the neighbors across in Phillips behind the Goodyear Tire shop. It was awesome. They didn't go as high, but they went often and prolongedly. What a nice gift to the area that person gave. He must have spent a bundle too, since it lasted an hour. There were probably gunshots among the rockets red glare, but I ignored them since I could do nothing about it at the moment and just had a peaceful, rocket noise and sight filled hour on my own front porch. What a gift. WizardMarks, Central Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Prospect Park Adopts its NRP-2 Action Plan
Steve Cross wrote: The Prospect Park East River Road neighborhood has adopted its action plan under NRP-2. Some of the highlights of our Action Plan are: The work was the culmination of the work of a Steering Committee elected by the neighborhood last October and which has been meeting multiple times for each month since then to reach its recommendations. Give those people a cheer. It is a bear coming to any agreement on neighborhood issues when so little money is involved and so many needs. Huzzahs! WizardMarks, Central Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Election filings open today
Here's the handy link to check on filings for city races; the filing period closes July 19, 5 p.m.: http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/elections/voter-information/candidate-filing s.asp#TopOfPage If that breaks, try: http://tinyurl.com/bslxg David Brauer List manager REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Insanity
I sympathize. I lost sleep last night because of the non-stop barrage of illegal fireworks in my neighborhood. The fireworks season has actually been a little quieter than usual in my part of north Minneapolis. The pops and bangs of firecrackers usually start up in earnest in early June and continue into August. I've learned that firecrackers generally sound more erratic (ie: pop puh-puh pop pop!) Gunshots are more deliberate (ie: blam-blam-blam!) one thing you learn quickly around here. although in the cacophony of fireworks they're really hard to pick out. Brandt Williams Jordan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Connie Beckers Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:17 AM To: Roberta Englund; mpls@mnforum.org Subject: RE: [Mpls] Insanity I second Roberta Englund's post. Who's brainchild was it to legalize fireworks, anyway?!? I swear 9/10th's of what I've been listening to for the past week or so has been the illegal kind! I've called 911 several times and while the operators are now much more receptive, it still made no difference. The few cops we do have over North here are busy answering shooting and domestic violence and robbery and prostitution calls. I couldn't even tell which were fireworks and which were gunshots. There were some pretty loud bangs going off. One house around 35th & Dupont was shooting exploding fireworks into the sky -- big ones -- I didn't see what they were using but it sounded like the canon at a professional display! How can people be so bold?!? I suppose they just assume the cops are going to be so busy, they couldn't possibly catch them, huh? We went down to Broadway and the River to see the downtown display and I was surprised to see so many folks setting off illegal fireworks down there, as well. Kids running around and folks are lighting an entire pack of firecrackers! And then they're going to sue the maker and blame everyone else if they blow off a finger or their child is killed. And now we're knee-deep in fireworks debris because do you think anyone is going to pick up after themselves? The parking lot at the end of my block on Lowry and Girard is filled with it and the folks who left it all there most likely live in the apartments across the street. Why shouldn't someone roust them from bed and haul them out there to clean up after themselves? I pick up trash from my yard every single day ... condoms, food wrappers and even shell casings sometimes. It's not my trash but I care about how my place looks so I clean up after the losers who don't know any better. I used to be a bleeding heart liberal ... now I'm an angry liberal. This stuff is intolerable ... no one should have to live in fear like this. I didn't move into a war-zone; this was a quiet and peaceful neighborhood 22 years ago when I bought my home. Now we're being taken over many of my former neighbors fled in fear years ago letting their homes go to investors and now the places are dumps. One of my old neighbors visited recently and was heartbroken to see the home she'd raised her family in ... there's no grass in the front yard, just the garbage dumpster, kitchen table and chairs and lots of empty liquor cans and bottles. And now I find the need to leave, too ... who's going to be left to keep the city clean, Mr Mayor? What's going to happen to the city you say you love so much without proper law enforcement and decent, law-abiding neighbors? Who's going to be left to vote for you, RT? Who's going to want to move into a city that's overrun by thugs and prostitutes ... except other thugs and prostitutes, of course? And I don't think they're known for making it to the polls on election day either ... especially if they're convicted felons. Your future as our Mayor is in jeopardy, RT. It's time to step up the plate and do something important for the city. And I'll be selfish to nominate my part of the city as the place to get started. Forget airplane noise; forget the stadium; let's get neighborhoods back on track and encourage families to take over again. Let's get back to the business of living in peace, quiet and harmony. I miss those days and if they don't return to the city, I'll go find it somewhere else. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Connie Beckers - Folwell THE GODDESS OF GLASS www.goddessofglass.com "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one." John Lennon REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion -
Re: [Mpls] What kind of person steals (can't spell) a compost barrel?
Spelling correction! Steal not Steel ken bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Minneapolis Issues Folks, Some delightful individual stole my compost barrel between 10:00 pm last night and 7:30 this morning. It was one of the more expensive purchases for me this spring, and thus very disappointing to see it had been taken from next to our garage. I had just about completely emptied it last night feeding my garden and was preparing to refill it this evening. So it was light and easy to walk off with. What kind of values does a person have that stealing is acceptable outcome if it leads to better waste management, and protection of the environment? I haven't called the police because it seemed like a fairly ridiculous crime that would probable not lead the list for the week. So, if anyone happens to notice a black compost barrel with a black holder in their neighborhood please contact me at 612-824-2825 or day 651-726-7568. I love my compost! Ken Bradley - Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls - Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] What kind of person steels a compost barrel?
Hello Minneapolis Issues Folks, Some delightful individual stole my compost barrel between 10:00 pm last night and 7:30 this morning. It was one of the more expensive purchases for me this spring, and thus very disappointing to see it had been taken from next to our garage. I had just about completely emptied it last night feeding my garden and was preparing to refill it this evening. So it was light and easy to walk off with. What kind of values does a person have that steeling is acceptable outcome if it leads to better waste management, and protection of the environment? I haven't called the police because it seemed like a fairly ridiculous crime that would probable not lead the list for the week. So, if anyone happens to notice a black compost barrel with a black holder in their neighborhood please contact me at 612-824-2825 or day 651-726-7568. I love my compost! Ken Bradley - Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Insanity
I second Roberta Englund's post. Who's brainchild was it to legalize fireworks, anyway?!? I swear 9/10th's of what I've been listening to for the past week or so has been the illegal kind! I've called 911 several times and while the operators are now much more receptive, it still made no difference. The few cops we do have over North here are busy answering shooting and domestic violence and robbery and prostitution calls. I couldn't even tell which were fireworks and which were gunshots. There were some pretty loud bangs going off. One house around 35th & Dupont was shooting exploding fireworks into the sky -- big ones -- I didn't see what they were using but it sounded like the canon at a professional display! How can people be so bold?!? I suppose they just assume the cops are going to be so busy, they couldn't possibly catch them, huh? We went down to Broadway and the River to see the downtown display and I was surprised to see so many folks setting off illegal fireworks down there, as well. Kids running around and folks are lighting an entire pack of firecrackers! And then they're going to sue the maker and blame everyone else if they blow off a finger or their child is killed. And now we're knee-deep in fireworks debris because do you think anyone is going to pick up after themselves? The parking lot at the end of my block on Lowry and Girard is filled with it and the folks who left it all there most likely live in the apartments across the street. Why shouldn't someone roust them from bed and haul them out there to clean up after themselves? I pick up trash from my yard every single day ... condoms, food wrappers and even shell casings sometimes. It's not my trash but I care about how my place looks so I clean up after the losers who don't know any better. I used to be a bleeding heart liberal ... now I'm an angry liberal. This stuff is intolerable ... no one should have to live in fear like this. I didn't move into a war-zone; this was a quiet and peaceful neighborhood 22 years ago when I bought my home. Now we're being taken over many of my former neighbors fled in fear years ago letting their homes go to investors and now the places are dumps. One of my old neighbors visited recently and was heartbroken to see the home she'd raised her family in ... there's no grass in the front yard, just the garbage dumpster, kitchen table and chairs and lots of empty liquor cans and bottles. And now I find the need to leave, too ... who's going to be left to keep the city clean, Mr Mayor? What's going to happen to the city you say you love so much without proper law enforcement and decent, law-abiding neighbors? Who's going to be left to vote for you, RT? Who's going to want to move into a city that's overrun by thugs and prostitutes ... except other thugs and prostitutes, of course? And I don't think they're known for making it to the polls on election day either ... especially if they're convicted felons. Your future as our Mayor is in jeopardy, RT. It's time to step up the plate and do something important for the city. And I'll be selfish to nominate my part of the city as the place to get started. Forget airplane noise; forget the stadium; let's get neighborhoods back on track and encourage families to take over again. Let's get back to the business of living in peace, quiet and harmony. I miss those days and if they don't return to the city, I'll go find it somewhere else. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Connie Beckers - Folwell THE GODDESS OF GLASS www.goddessofglass.com "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one." John Lennon REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Insanity
For most of the past week and all of last night, until 4:30 this morning, many blocks in north Minneapolis were a lesson in war-zone! A continuous explosion of fireworks and gun fire was the sound track for mobs of teens and adults who invaded residential intersections and alleys in a celebration of riot! Does it seem odd to anyone else that the media is focused on hot dog eating contests while Live-Aid - Live-8 is focused on ending world hunger and poverty..or that the Minnesota Legislature was taking a holiday break from their own dysfunction while some Minneapolis residents prayed for a break from their lawful decision to allow firework sales to individuals - while reducing funds that could have provided enough police to enforce the law, much less keep the peace? Roberta Englund Folwell Neighborhood REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
