[Mpls] Hood Pot Market to relocate DT; RT hopes gang violence abates; Hardcore Commute?
Mayor Rybak's quote (paraphrased) by Jason Samuels: Anybody buying marijuana is paying to put a bullet in the head of a kid on the North Side. Chris Johnson said: By all means, fight for marijuana legalization. Just stop buying it in gang-afflicted neighborhoods of Minneapolis. Otherwise, you are part of the violence problem. Mark Wilde said: And I would argue against the idea that all the buyers are from the suburbs as people like to claim. The people buying live right next store to the people selling. -- --- Keith Reitman NearNorthDigesting the List REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Hood Pot Market to relocate DT; RT hopes gang violence abates; Hardcore Commute?
Mark Wilde said: And I would argue against the idea that all the buyers are from the suburbs as people like to claim. The people buying live right next store to the people selling. Me: Mark you are only partly correct. According to the stats, 60% of the people buying the drugs drive in from the suburbs or other rural areas in Minnesota and Wisconsin. 40% are local. Perhaps if the dealers set up satellite operations at Ridgedale or Southdale or the Eden Prairie Center it would be more convenient for them and our incidents of violence would decrease dramatically. Barb Lickness, Whittier Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Hood Pot Market to relocate DT; RT hopes gang violence abates; Hardcore Commute?
On Saturday, April 30, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Barbara Lickness wrote: Mark Wilde said: And I would argue against the idea that all the buyers are from the suburbs as people like to claim. The people buying live right next store to the people selling. Me: Mark you are only partly correct. According to the stats, 60% of the people buying the drugs drive in from the suburbs or other rural areas in Minnesota and Wisconsin. 40% are local. Perhaps if the dealers set up satellite operations at Ridgedale or Southdale or the Eden Prairie Center it would be more convenient for them and our incidents of violence would decrease dramatically. Barb Lickness, Whittier It is futile to speculate where the buyers come from in what percentages. We might just agree that the public is complicit in illegal sales by supplying the demand and thus the market growth. True, Target and Walmart need to know where their customer base comes from. Drug dealers and distributors probably do too. We can argue endlessly whether they are local or suburban. But it is what it is, whatever we might speculate. The market is there is sufficient depth to make this business profitable. Illegal or legal will have little effect on the under 18 market in a future legal scenario. For now, the buyer age spectrum is under 18 to no ceiling. There are just too many in the public who are buyers and thus there is a ready supply of dealers and sellers that the larger scale distributors can rely on. Bullets in the head are part of the risk category. The mayor was exhorting a reduction in public buying to decrease demand. Otherwise law abiding citizens and others should pay attention to this. Best, Laura Laura Waterman Wittstock Minneapolis, MN 612-387-4915 www.laurawatermanwittstock.com http://laurawatermanwittstock.blogspot.com/ REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Hood Pot Market to relocate DT; RT hopes gang violence abates; Hardcore Commute?
Laura Waterman Wittstock wrote: The mayor was exhorting a reduction in public buying to decrease demand. Otherwise law abiding citizens and others should pay attention to this. The mayor could also exhort us to obey the speed limits on our freeways (55 mph in most of the Metro) and it would be just as efficacious and ineffective of a public safety strategy, i.e. it would have no impact whatsoever. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Hood Pot Market to relocate DT; RT hopes gang violence abates; Hardcore Commute?
No speculation here. The statistics were provided by the police based on the resident addresses of the people they arrest. Those of us who live with this stuff year after year become quite well educated on just who and what we are dealing with. Barb Lickness, Whittier Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Hood Pot Market to relocate DT; RT hopes gang violence abates; Hardcore Commute?
The mayor says, If everyone stopped buying drugs then we wouldn't have a drug problem. Translates to: If you would just conform to my value system we could all live happily together. I say, If you would just honor my right to make my own choices, you wouldn't need to imprison me to try and force me to conform to yours. Translates to: If I'm not hurting anyone, then please have the decency to leave me alone. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. For state and national discussions see: http://e-democracy.org/discuss.html For external forums, see: http://e-democracy.org/mninteract Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City-focused Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: mailto:mpls@mnforum.org Subscribe, Un-subscribe, etc. at: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
