Barbara Lickness:
Nice history on the 1st Ave diversion. Id never
heard that before.
One small item that puzzles me. Where does the
1st Ave traffic come from? Is it people driving
East on Lake who turn onto 1st Avenue? Is it
people who live south of Lake? Is it both? I
cant see why anyone would get off 35W and take
1st Ave into downtown? And I really cant see
suburbanites taking that route in place of
freeways. I sometimes went that way to get on
28th Street to drive west to my neighborhood.
But just as often I would do that swerve on
Bryant or Harriet or some other disused street.
So some of that neighborhood traffic is
Minneapolis residents going to other parts of the
city. Just as people go through my neighborhood
to get to other parts.
Dave Stack:I am a firm believer that natural
greenspace corridors and oases scattered
throughout the urban landscape enrich the lives
of the city's poor, as well as the better-off.
The poor probably benefit more because the local
neighborhoods are where they spend more of their
lives. The rich more often can afford to take
vacation trips, own lake cabins, and get out to
more distant natural areas.
And when there is insufficient housing, they can
even SLEEP in those green spaces. Minneapolis
already has more green spaces than most cities in
the land. But it does not have enough living
spaces that a poor person can pay to live in. I
think a strong consideration ought to be to
affordable housing over green spaces. If not,
dont compalin when the homeless take over these
public spaces. What other choice do they have?
Jim Young: Realistically, I agree that cars are
here to stay but that doesn't mean that the
transportation system we've built in the past 50
years is what will work well in the next 50
years. We need to think about what life will be
like when the metro area has double the
population it does now and even more than double
the number of cars.
Cars and mass transit can live together. For
decades, I used buses with a car parked at home
for trips where mass transit wasnt an option
(such as those involving moving bulky loads).
But as Jim says, the end of the days where we
just assume we can jump in the car on a whim are
coming to an end.
Dyna Sluyter: So what happens when our police
departments fleet of Crown Vics gets parked due
to lack of gasoline? Can we hack their engine
controls and run them on ethanol? If petroleum
diesel fuel becomes unavailable, can we get
enough soy diesel to power our snowplows this
winter?
How about killing two birds with one stone.
Switch the cop cars to natural gas or propane.
They hav eto drive a LOT of miles, so the
reduction in pollutants would be a bonus.
James Jacobsen: If it is cool to say that the US
is bad for discussing and intending to defend
itself from 9/11 types, -our own city and yes the
mall -with lots of Minneapolitans always in the
Mall- a possible terrorist target- then it is at
least equally cool to say that the US -to avoid
the 9/11 type of massive destruction right here
in Minneapolis- is very good and appropriate to
do what the President and now the Congress is
talking about and moving ahead with reference
Iraq.
The issue here is not Iraq, the terrorists, or
the war against them. The issue is democracy.
So why dont we attack China, North Korea,
and..Florida? No, the issue is
Bushs poll numbers and our habit of gobbling up
petroleum products. This pattern is as old as
the USA. The country is built on seized assets.
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Jim Mork (Cooper Neighborhood)
Vote Wellstone! One of the few people in Washington who'll stick his neck out for
BOTH the stockholders (combatting management fraud) AND the working
people.
Why do corporations always love war? Easy: They don't bleed and they don't
pay.*
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