Re: [Mpls] Trench for Lake Street Greenway Swap

2002-08-22 Thread Eric Bartz

I use the Greenway every day and I have to point out
that its appearance is greatly improved over even a
year ago.  There is still a very small amount of
broken glass, but not nearly as bad as kavidor would
have us believe.  To Linda, I'd suggest that she rides
four short blocks to Nicollet when she's going east
and five short blocks to Bryant when going west to
access the Greenway.  If more people like kavidor and
Linda rode the Greenway more often, it wouldn't be so
"boring."  Even with its MINIMAL drawbacks, it is
still 100 TIMES better than traveling east-west
through the city with traffic.

Eric Bartz
East Calhoun


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 8/21/2002 9:20:23 AM Central
> Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > Very few people, it seems bike
> >  the Greenway and it's no wonder. In spite of the
> heroic efforts of the
> >  people who work on the Greenway, it remains an
> ugly, broken glass ,
> >  graffiti and litter strewn, subterranean
> wasteland..no shops, no
> >  peopleBORING.
> 
> Another reason nobody uses the Greenway is the lack
> of entrances and exits. 
> From Grand Avenue, the only choice I have is either
> an entrance at Nicollet 
> or one at Bryant. I would much rather take the
> Greenway than Lake St. but 
> there's no place accessible for me to get on it.
> 
> Linda Mann
> Kingfield
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Re: [Mpls] Trench for Lake Street Greenway Swap

2002-08-21 Thread Gypsycurse7

In a message dated 8/21/2002 9:20:23 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Very few people, it seems bike
>  the Greenway and it's no wonder. In spite of the heroic efforts of the
>  people who work on the Greenway, it remains an ugly, broken glass ,
>  graffiti and litter strewn, subterranean wasteland..no shops, no
>  peopleBORING.

Another reason nobody uses the Greenway is the lack of entrances and exits. 
>From Grand Avenue, the only choice I have is either an entrance at Nicollet 
or one at Bryant. I would much rather take the Greenway than Lake St. but 
there's no place accessible for me to get on it.

Linda Mann
Kingfield
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[Mpls] Trench for Lake Street Greenway Swap

2002-08-21 Thread ken avidor

I was riding my bike on the Midtown Greenway yesterday and I noticed
the tracks that used to run along the bikeway are being pulled up. I
presume a busway will occupy that space. Very few people, it seems bike
the Greenway and it's no wonder. In spite of the heroic efforts of the
people who work on the Greenway, it remains an ugly, broken glass ,
graffiti and litter strewn, subterranean wasteland..no shops, no
peopleBORING. Now, bus riders will get to share the bleak, boring
Trench with bicyclistsunless...

We do a swapturn the trench into an auto and truck only
freeway and put the bike/pedestrian and transit only Greenway on Lake
Street

Motorists are used to traveling in ugly trenches like 35W. Motorists
are too busy staying alive to look at their surroundings. The Trench
doesn't have street lights to hold up traffic.. 35W and Hwy 55 could be
connected to the trench and the the Trench feeds right into the new
Wells Fargo Ramp and the Sears complex  making the 35W Access
Project people happy. Stores on Lake Street would have parking in the
rear accessed by a frontage road on the south edge of the trench.

And bicyclists, pedestrians and  trolley riders would flock to the
new Lake Street Greenway...outdoor cafes, festivals.it's a win-win.

Ken Avidor
Kingfield

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