Re: MPLS-ISSUES digest 804

2000-10-02 Thread doodle

We have not had the opportunity to discuss this as a Board issue of yet,
however I have always held the opinion that discrimination hurts and
intolerance is unacceptable.  

The Boy Scouts are a private organization and are not subject to the same
scrutiny as publicly funded organizations.  I do recognize that the Boy
Scouts help some boys.  But they do not help everyone or anyone who wishes
to participate.  They have the right to run things as they see fit and they
are determined enough to take such a position to the Supreme Court.  We
have the obligation to adhere to our philosophy in the School District of
inclusiveness.  I would not continue to support any organization that
promotes discrimination and intolerance.  

As a child I wanted to join the Boy Scouts because the Girl Scout troop in
my area was not well run.  I was told I was crazy for even thinking such a
thing, they didn't want "girls" messing up their club.  Since then, I have
been very aware of such non-inclusive rules in organizations and have
spoken up against them.


Audrey Johnson, 10th Ward
School Board Member 


And what about it school board members?   You ask gay people 
>for support on your referendum, but your silence on this issue is
deafening.   
>
>Allan Spear
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>Ward 10
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Re: MPLS-ISSUES digest 804

2000-09-30 Thread Bensonale

Good for you Catherine!  I too admire the good work done by the Boy Scouts.  
But, as Sen. Allan Spear pointed out in response to Mr. Chandler's post, we 
certainly would not tolerate a public subsidy to a Nazi youth group in the 
name of "diversity," regardless of the number of "at risk" children that it 
connected with "safe" adults in order to work on projects of benefit to the 
community.  

I was thrilled to read in the Star/Tribune this morning that Rabbi Joseph 
Edelheit is calling his congregation to work for change in the Scout's policy 
of excluding openly gay leaders.  I hope other people of faith in Minneapolis 
will join with Rabbi Edelheit. I also hope that other Minneapolis school 
board members will join with Ms. Shreves in opposing continued distribution 
or use of Minneapolis Public School facilities until the Boy Scout policy 
changes.

Scott Benson
Ward 11
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In a message dated 9/30/00 7:55:32 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< I don't know if you posted your piece before you read my posting of
 Carol Johnson's speech to the Boy Scouts, Allan, in which Carol
 registered the district's concern about the BSA's non-inclusive
 policies.  
 
 The Minneapolis Public Schools is in the process of reviewing the
 criteria used to approve flyers and promotional material for the
 schools. We do have non-discrimination policies, and while no decision
 has yet been made, it is unlikely that we will continue to distribute
 Boy Scout and Cub Scout materials through the schools until the
 organization changes its position to include all individuals as scout
 leaders.  
 
 Both of my boys have participated in scouting, and my family has felt
 that scouting has reinforced many of our values.  But, in spite of this,
 I and my family disagree with the non-inclusive policy on scout leaders
 that the scouts have adopted.  While I am only one board member and so I
 cannot speak for the board as a whole, I will not support continued
 distribution or use of Minneapolis Public School facilities until the
 Boy Scout policy changes.
 
 Catherine Shreves
 Minneapolis School Board >>



Re: MPLS-ISSUES digest 804

2000-09-30 Thread Catherine Shreves



"Sen.Allan Spear" wrote:

> And what about it school board members?   You ask gay people
> for support on your referendum, but your silence on this issue is deafening.
> 

I don't know if you posted your piece before you read my posting of
Carol Johnson's speech to the Boy Scouts, Allan, in which Carol
registered the district's concern about the BSA's non-inclusive
policies.  

The Minneapolis Public Schools is in the process of reviewing the
criteria used to approve flyers and promotional material for the
schools. We do have non-discrimination policies, and while no decision
has yet been made, it is unlikely that we will continue to distribute
Boy Scout and Cub Scout materials through the schools until the
organization changes its position to include all individuals as scout
leaders.  

Both of my boys have participated in scouting, and my family has felt
that scouting has reinforced many of our values.  But, in spite of this,
I and my family disagree with the non-inclusive policy on scout leaders
that the scouts have adopted.  While I am only one board member and so I
cannot speak for the board as a whole, I will not support continued
distribution or use of Minneapolis Public School facilities until the
Boy Scout policy changes.

Catherine Shreves
Minneapolis School Board



Re: MPLS-ISSUES digest 804

2000-09-29 Thread Sen.Allan Spear

0100,0100,0100The argument that efforts to withhold funding from 
the Boy Scouts reflect a 
disrespect for diversity is simply ludicrous.  Does diversity require a tolerance 
for bigotry?  Would the Minneapolis school system be required to provide 
facilities for a white supremacist group or a Nazi group?  The basis of the Boy 
Scouts case before the Supreme Court was that their anti-gay policies were 
part of their organizational philosophy.  If so, than they are a bigoted group 
and institutions with non-discriminatory policies should not work with them -
whatever good that may do with "at risk" kids.


Eva and Dana are absolutely right.  It is very disappointing to see the 
Burnsville School District and the Duluth United Way and Medtronics take 
principled stands on this issue, while we hear nothing from the Minneapolis 
School District or the Minneapolis United Way.  (Yes, I know that the 
Minneapolis United Way is allowing contributors to designate that their money 
not go to the Boy Scouts.  But that is meaningless if they just shift funds 
around and give the Boy Scouts the same amount they would otherwise have 
received.)  And what about it school board members?   You ask gay people 
for support on your referendum, but your silence on this issue is deafening.   

Allan Spear

Ward 10