Re: MACZ SupportPack 64bit HPUX Client Libs

2004-08-06 Thread David C. Partridge
We were very successfully running the AIX version of the 64-bit client
support pack on an AIX 5.2 system with the QM on the same system - what's
more I can't see any reason whatsoever that this shouldn't work for HP!
After all the client is running in its own 64-bit process and communicating
to the QM using TCP - why on earth shouldn't it work?

What's more one of our major banking clients is now running this in
production.

Cheers,
David C. Partridge
Technical Products Director
Primeur Security Services
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MACZ SupportPack 64bit HPUX Client Libs

2004-08-04 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203uid=swg24005901loc=en_UScs
=utf-8lang=en

I have an HP-UX server running a queue manager at 5.3 CSD07 at 32bit. The
app needs to run at 64bit. They are OK running as an MQClient even though
thet are local to the QM. The server will allow both 32bit and 64bit apps to
run. But MQ will not allow 5.3 (the QM) to run on the same machine as 5.2
(the client if I compile it with the MACZ libs).

Why in the world would the support pack, released after 5.2 was no longer
supported, be based on 5.2?

Any rumors as to when the server version of MQ for HPUX will allow 64bit? Or
if this support pack will be rereleased based on 5.3?

Short of uninstalling 5.3 MQ server and reinstalling 5.2 client only, which
isn't officially supported, and having the QM installed on a separate server
(more $$$), am I S.O.L?






 Peter Potkay
 MQSeries Specialist
 The Hartford Financial Services
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Re: MACZ SupportPack 64bit HPUX Client Libs

2004-08-04 Thread David C. Partridge
Strange - I can't comment for sure on the HP version, but the AIX version of
the 64 bit client will co-reside on the same machine as the MQ 5.3 server.

So I'd suggest that it's PMR time.

Dave

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Peter M (ISD, IT)
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Subject: MACZ SupportPack 64bit HPUX Client Libs


http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203uid=swg24005901loc=en_UScs
=utf-8lang=en

I have an HP-UX server running a queue manager at 5.3 CSD07 at 32bit. The
app needs to run at 64bit. They are OK running as an MQClient even though
thet are local to the QM. The server will allow both 32bit and 64bit apps to
run. But MQ will not allow 5.3 (the QM) to run on the same machine as 5.2
(the client if I compile it with the MACZ libs).

Why in the world would the support pack, released after 5.2 was no longer
supported, be based on 5.2?

Any rumors as to when the server version of MQ for HPUX will allow 64bit? Or
if this support pack will be rereleased based on 5.3?

Short of uninstalling 5.3 MQ server and reinstalling 5.2 client only, which
isn't officially supported, and having the QM installed on a separate server
(more $$$), am I S.O.L?






 Peter Potkay
 MQSeries Specialist
 The Hartford Financial Services
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 x77906
 IBM MQSeries Certified



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Re: MACZ SupportPack 64bit HPUX Client Libs

2004-08-04 Thread David C. Partridge
Are you sure that you're compiling and linking the client app correctly for
64 bit?

I think for a regular app (not a shared lib) you need to use:

c89 +DD64 -c -D_HPUX_SOURCE -o appl.o appl.c -I/opt/mqm/inc64

You also need to link with options:

for non-threaded:

 +noenvvar appl.o -o appl -L/opt/mqm/lib64 -L/usr/lib/pa20_64 -lmqic

for threaded:

 +noenvvar appl.o -o
appl -L/opt/mqm/lib64 -L/usr/lib/pa20_64 -lmqic_r -lpthread

(NOTE: Not sure about the +noenvvar option - probably only relevant for suid
appls.)

This is derived from the instructions on how to link MCA exits for 64bit
clients which can be found at:

http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=171context=SSFKSJq1=1172220ui
d=swg21172220loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en+en

I just modified this for linking an application - so if I got it wrong I
apologise

Note also that the above instructions are in error as they say to use:

-I/opt/mqm/inc

rather than

-I/opt/mqm/inc64

on the compile options.


Dave

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Re: MACZ SupportPack 64bit HPUX Client Libs

2004-08-04 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Dave, I opened an ETR on this question and was told that the 64 bit MQ 5.2
client app could not run on the same server as the 5.3 queue manager. And it
has lways been my understanding that you could not run 2 version of MQ
(regardless of bit#) on the same machine.

The AIX 64 bit support pack is also based on 5.2. Are you saying you
succesfully ran it on the same server that 5.3 code was installed and
running? Did IBM say it was supported?



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Strange - I can't comment for sure on the HP version, but the AIX version of
the 64 bit client will co-reside on the same machine as the MQ 5.3 server.

So I'd suggest that it's PMR time.

Dave

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From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Potkay,
Peter M (ISD, IT)
Sent: 04 August 2004 15:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MACZ SupportPack 64bit HPUX Client Libs


http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203uid=swg24005901loc=en_UScs
=utf-8lang=en

I have an HP-UX server running a queue manager at 5.3 CSD07 at 32bit. The
app needs to run at 64bit. They are OK running as an MQClient even though
thet are local to the QM. The server will allow both 32bit and 64bit apps to
run. But MQ will not allow 5.3 (the QM) to run on the same machine as 5.2
(the client if I compile it with the MACZ libs).

Why in the world would the support pack, released after 5.2 was no longer
supported, be based on 5.2?

Any rumors as to when the server version of MQ for HPUX will allow 64bit? Or
if this support pack will be rereleased based on 5.3?

Short of uninstalling 5.3 MQ server and reinstalling 5.2 client only, which
isn't officially supported, and having the QM installed on a separate server
(more $$$), am I S.O.L?






 Peter Potkay
 MQSeries Specialist
 The Hartford Financial Services
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 x77906
 IBM MQSeries Certified



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