Re: Old School RUNMQLSR

2003-01-16 Thread Paul Clarke
>Paul,

>Does this (channel pools) also apply to the other 5.3 distributed
platforms?

>Dave

Yes, it applies to all 5.3 distributed platforms (not z/OS clearly).

Cheers,
P.

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Re: Old School RUNMQLSR

2003-01-16 Thread David C. Partridge
Paul,

Does this (channel pools) also apply to the other 5.3 distributed platforms?

Dave

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Re: Old School RUNMQLSR

2003-01-16 Thread Mike Davidson

Thanks, Paul.

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>I've always started my MQ listeners (on Windows) via the command prompt -
mainly b/c I learned on version 5.0. I recently upgraded this W2K machine
to WMQ 5.3 and I continue to start
>the listeners this way - however, I'm noticing something different now.
With previous versions, the listener window would give little status
messages as things would happen concerning the
>listener program (such as: "Channel program started."). I thought that to
be pretty useful at times. With 5.3, there are no longer any of these
messages showing up in the listener
>command prompt window. No big deal, really. I just was wondering what has
happened, or what am I doing wrong. I checked out the syntax in the manual
to see if there was some new >parameter(s) that needed to be typed in, but
I found nothing mentioning this feature.

>Just curious.

>Mike Davidson

Hi Mike,

MQ 5.3 has changed to use what we call channel pools. Essentially when an
inbound channel connects to a listener, MQ passes the connection to one of
a pool of processes rather than just start a thread inside the listener.
Consequently the channel actually now runs inside a background process
(AMQRMPPA) which does not have a console window. We made this change for
scaleability reasons. In 5.2 it is possible to run out of per process
resource (ie. maximum number of threads) when you start many connections
into your listener. In 5.3, since this restriction is removed, you can now
keep on connecting channels until you run out of some system wide resource
which is fixable by buying a bigger machine (:-) though not always).

As mentioned before the channel still writes the channel start message, it
just goes to the event log (on Windows) and the AMQERR01.LOG file.

Cheers,
P.

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WebSphere MQ Development
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Re: Old School RUNMQLSR

2003-01-16 Thread Paul Clarke
>I've always started my MQ listeners (on Windows) via the command prompt -
mainly b/c I learned on version 5.0. I recently upgraded this W2K machine
to WMQ 5.3 and I continue to start
>the listeners this way - however, I'm noticing something different now.
With previous versions, the listener window would give little status
messages as things would happen concerning the
>listener program (such as: "Channel program started."). I thought that to
be pretty useful at times. With 5.3, there are no longer any of these
messages showing up in the listener
>command prompt window. No big deal, really. I just was wondering what has
happened, or what am I doing wrong. I checked out the syntax in the manual
to see if there was some new >parameter(s) that needed to be typed in, but
I found nothing mentioning this feature.

>Just curious.

>Mike Davidson

Hi Mike,

MQ 5.3 has changed to use what we call channel pools. Essentially when an
inbound channel connects to a listener, MQ passes the connection to one of
a pool of processes rather than just start a thread inside the listener.
Consequently the channel actually now runs inside a background process
(AMQRMPPA) which does not have a console window. We made this change for
scaleability reasons. In 5.2 it is possible to run out of per process
resource (ie. maximum number of threads) when you start many connections
into your listener. In 5.3, since this restriction is removed, you can now
keep on connecting channels until you run out of some system wide resource
which is fixable by buying a bigger machine (:-) though not always).

As mentioned before the channel still writes the channel start message, it
just goes to the event log (on Windows) and the AMQERR01.LOG file.

Cheers,
P.

Paul G Clarke
WebSphere MQ Development
IBM Hursley

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Re: Old School RUNMQLSR

2003-01-16 Thread Mike Davidson

Yep...I know about those. I just thought it was neat how they would show up in the actual Listener window. Is this 'functionality' no longer there.
Not trying to be picky - just curious.

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You do get 'channel started' messages in the W2K event log..




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I've always started my MQ listeners (on Windows) via the command prompt -
mainly b/c I learned on version 5.0. I recently upgraded this W2K machine
to WMQ 5.3 and I continue to start the listeners this way - however, I'm
noticing something different now. With previous versions, the listener
window would give little status messages as things would happen concerning
the listener program (such as: "Channel program started."). I thought that
to be pretty useful at times. With 5.3, there are no longer any of these
messages showing up in the listener command prompt window. No big deal,
really. I just was wondering what has happened, or what am I doing wrong. I
checked out the syntax in the manual to see if there was some new
parameter(s) that needed to be typed in, but I found nothing mentioning
this feature.

Just curious.

Mike Davidson
TSYS MQSeries Tech Support
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Re: Old School RUNMQLSR

2003-01-16 Thread Peter Heggie
You do get 'channel started' messages in the W2K event log..




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I've always started my MQ listeners (on Windows) via the command prompt -
mainly b/c I learned on version 5.0. I recently upgraded this W2K machine
to WMQ 5.3 and I continue to start the listeners this way - however, I'm
noticing something different now. With previous versions, the listener
window would give little status messages as things would happen concerning
the listener program (such as: "Channel program started."). I thought that
to be pretty useful at times. With 5.3, there are no longer any of these
messages showing up in the listener command prompt window. No big deal,
really. I just was wondering what has happened, or what am I doing wrong. I
checked out the syntax in the manual to see if there was some new
parameter(s) that needed to be typed in, but I found nothing mentioning
this feature.

Just curious.

Mike Davidson
TSYS MQSeries Tech Support
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Old School RUNMQLSR

2003-01-16 Thread Mike Davidson

I've always started my MQ listeners (on Windows) via the command prompt - mainly b/c I learned on version 5.0. I recently upgraded this W2K machine to WMQ 5.3 and I continue to start the listeners this way - however, I'm noticing something different now. With previous versions, the listener window would give little status messages as things would happen concerning the listener program (such as: "Channel program started."). I thought that to be pretty useful at times. With 5.3, there are no longer any of these messages showing up in the listener command prompt window. No big deal, really. I just was wondering what has happened, or what am I doing wrong. I checked out the syntax in the manual to see if there was some new parameter(s) that needed to be typed in, but I found nothing mentioning this feature.

Just curious.

Mike Davidson
TSYS MQSeries Tech Support
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