Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS
Ronald/Neil I agree with both of you completely, unfortunately the customer does not I rather use the MQI as well, but they want to have the choice, in the mean time we are using MQI calls... Thanks. D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Neil Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAL.COM.AU cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/27/2003 11:48 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Hi Didi, my site are major IMS users, and we use OTMA for messages where IMS is the back end (server) application. When IMS is sending datagram or request messages, we use the MQI rather than DL/I calls so as to avoid the IMS exits. This gives us a compromise which we are hapy with. We can use existing applications (which were written for LU0) unchanged by using OTMA, and we can send messages explicitly to other systems via the MQI, which makes our IMS exit environment simpler. It also makes the code much easier to understand, because it is clear when a request messages is going to hit MQ, rather than someone reading the code needing to understand that some exit in IMS is going to redirect a special destination to an MQ queue. Regards, Neil Casey. |-+ | | Didi Dotan | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | COM | | | Sent by: MQSeries| | | List | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | n.AC.AT | | || | || | | 27/07/2003 23:09 | | | Please respond to| | | MQSeries List| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS | --| Thanks Art, I am aware of these samples, but the customer we are working with wants to see something more detailed, they will develop such exits eventually but they are kind of press for time... Cheers, D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Art Schanz [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT.FRB.ORG cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/24/2003 07:26 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Didi, You can find samples of these exits in 'WebSphere MQ for z/OS - System Setup Guide - V5R3', in Appendix B. I used the samples to develop my own copies of both of these exits. They have been functioning in our shop for more than 5 years in both non-Production Production environments, without any problems. I suggest spending some time on the initial development, as it will be time well spent! Cheers, Art Arthur C. Schanz Operating Systems Programmer I. - Specialist Federal Reserve Information Technology Distributed Systems Engineering IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere MQ V5.3 IBM Certified Solution Designer - WebSphere MQ V5.3 (804) 697-3889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: MQSeries List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Sending 07/24/2003 02:07 PM unsolicited messages from IMS Please respond to MQSeries List Hello all, I the book it says the following To send messages from IMS to a WebSphere MQ queue, you need to invoke an IMS transaction that ISRTs to an ALTPCB. You need to write pre-routing and destination resolution exits to route unsolicited messages from IMS and build the OTMA user data, so that the MQMD of the message can be built correctly Does someone have such an exit? TIA Didi Didi
Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS
Didi, If they want a choice between a BMW and a Mercedes there may be room to argue, but not between a BMW and a FIAT. Did you try explaining the cost benefit in pounds and lirot? With less moving parts the MQ API is much less expensive to maintain. If you gather all the MQ manuals that reference IMS and follow the small pirnt with someone who understands IMS application programming, and everything is standard IMS, it is not hard to do. Be aware of the assumptions made if the IIH header is not used. Working with conversational transactions can be tricky and nothing is ever transparent, but it is all in the manuals.. Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/29/2003 05:29 AM Please respond to MQSeries List Ronald/Neil I agree with both of you completely, unfortunately the customer does not I rather use the MQI as well, but they want to have the choice, in the mean time we are using MQI calls... Thanks. D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Neil Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAL.COM.AU cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/27/2003 11:48 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Hi Didi, my site are major IMS users, and we use OTMA for messages where IMS is the back end (server) application. When IMS is sending datagram or request messages, we use the MQI rather than DL/I calls so as to avoid the IMS exits. This gives us a compromise which we are hapy with. We can use existing applications (which were written for LU0) unchanged by using OTMA, and we can send messages explicitly to other systems via the MQI, which makes our IMS exit environment simpler. It also makes the code much easier to understand, because it is clear when a request messages is going to hit MQ, rather than someone reading the code needing to understand that some exit in IMS is going to redirect a special destination to an MQ queue. Regards, Neil Casey. |-+ | | Didi Dotan | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | COM | | | Sent by: MQSeries| | | List | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | n.AC.AT | | || | || | | 27/07/2003 23:09 | | | Please respond to| | | MQSeries List| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS | --| Thanks Art, I am aware of these samples, but the customer we are working with wants to see something more detailed, they will develop such exits eventually but they are kind of press for time... Cheers, D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Art Schanz [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT.FRB.ORG cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/24/2003 07:26 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Didi, You can find samples of these exits in 'WebSphere MQ for z/OS - System Setup Guide - V5R3', in Appendix B. I used the samples to develop my own copies of both of these exits. They have been functioning in our shop for more than 5 years in both non-Production Production environments, without any problems. I suggest
Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS
Ronald, We don't have a problem with IIH, because we don't use it! We use the IMS bridge as a form of RPC... They have quite a few secondary transactions and we call them, and for this purpose the IMS bridge is very good, we got things moving there in less then a day's work we had over 10 transactions sending data via MQ not something easily done via MQI... Cheers, D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ronald Weinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .COMcc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/29/2003 01:43 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Didi, If they want a choice between a BMW and a Mercedes there may be room to argue, but not between a BMW and a FIAT. Did you try explaining the cost benefit in pounds and lirot? With less moving parts the MQ API is much less expensive to maintain. If you gather all the MQ manuals that reference IMS and follow the small pirnt with someone who understands IMS application programming, and everything is standard IMS, it is not hard to do. Be aware of the assumptions made if the IIH header is not used. Working with conversational transactions can be tricky and nothing is ever transparent, but it is all in the manuals.. Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/29/2003 05:29 AM Please respond to MQSeries List Ronald/Neil I agree with both of you completely, unfortunately the customer does not I rather use the MQI as well, but they want to have the choice, in the mean time we are using MQI calls... Thanks. D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Neil Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAL.COM.AU cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/27/2003 11:48 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Hi Didi, my site are major IMS users, and we use OTMA for messages where IMS is the back end (server) application. When IMS is sending datagram or request messages, we use the MQI rather than DL/I calls so as to avoid the IMS exits. This gives us a compromise which we are hapy with. We can use existing applications (which were written for LU0) unchanged by using OTMA, and we can send messages explicitly to other systems via the MQI, which makes our IMS exit environment simpler. It also makes the code much easier to understand, because it is clear when a request messages is going to hit MQ, rather than someone reading the code needing to understand that some exit in IMS is going to redirect a special destination to an MQ queue. Regards, Neil Casey. |-+ | | Didi Dotan | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | COM | | | Sent by: MQSeries| | | List | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | n.AC.AT | | || | || | | 27/07/2003 23:09 | | | Please respond to| | | MQSeries List| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS | --| Thanks Art, I am aware of these samples, but the customer we are working with wants to see something more detailed, they will develop such exits eventually
Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS
Didi, We chose to use the IMS Bridge because it allowed our development staff to use their existing transactions w/o making any changes. Using the MQI required that new programs be written...and if your developers are anything like ours, they would rather see the technicians do the work (i.e., coding OTMA exits) than have to do it themselves! As for the IIH, we require it because we also require a password (authenticator) on each transaction we send to IMS. We therefore get an IIH on the replies, or build our own for the unsolicited messages from IMS. Our Audit / Security folks saw the input from OTMA (MQ) as no different than that coming from a terminal - which is exactly the way IMS sees the input! Therefore, the requirement for the password. Also, because we are passing both a userid password on every message, we needed to code a set of encryption/decryption programs (w/ the help of IBMGS) to 'hide' the password in the message flow. I must say, it is really pretty neat set-up. Cheers, Art Arthur C. Schanz Operating Systems Programmer I. - Specialist Federal Reserve Information Technology Distributed Systems Engineering IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere MQ V5.3 IBM Certified Solution Designer - WebSphere MQ V5.3 (804) 697-3889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/29/2003 09:07 AM Please respond to MQSeries List To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS Ronald, We don't have a problem with IIH, because we don't use it! We use the IMS bridge as a form of RPC... They have quite a few secondary transactions and we call them, and for this purpose the IMS bridge is very good, we got things moving there in less then a day's work we had over 10 transactions sending data via MQ not something easily done via MQI... Cheers, D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ronald Weinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .COM cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/29/2003 01:43 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Didi, If they want a choice between a BMW and a Mercedes there may be room to argue, but not between a BMW and a FIAT. Did you try explaining the cost benefit in pounds and lirot? With less moving parts the MQ API is much less expensive to maintain. If you gather all the MQ manuals that reference IMS and follow the small pirnt with someone who understands IMS application programming, and everything is standard IMS, it is not hard to do. Be aware of the assumptions made if the IIH header is not used. Working with conversational transactions can be tricky and nothing is ever transparent, but it is all in the manuals.. Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/29/2003 05:29 AM Please respond to MQSeries List Ronald/Neil I agree with both of you completely, unfortunately the customer does not I rather use the MQI as well, but they want to have the choice, in the mean time we are using MQI calls... Thanks. D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Neil Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NAL.COM.AU cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/27/2003 11:48 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Hi Didi, my site are major IMS users, and we use OTMA for messages where IMS is the back end (server) application. When IMS is sending datagram or request messages, we use the MQI rather than DL/I calls so as to avoid the IMS exits. This gives us a compromise which we are hapy with. We can use existing applications (which were written for LU0) unchanged by using OTMA, and we can send messages explicitly to other systems via the MQI, which makes our IMS exit environment simpler. It also makes the code much easier to understand, because it is clear when a request messages is going to hit MQ, rather than someone reading the code needing to understand that some exit in IMS is going to redirect a special destination to an MQ queue. Regards, Neil Casey
Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS
Thank you all for your comments, They were very helpful in placing some recommendation in place Cheers D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Art Schanz [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT.FRB.ORG cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/29/2003 03:57 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Didi, We chose to use the IMS Bridge because it allowed our development staff to use their existing transactions w/o making any changes. Using the MQI required that new programs be written...and if your developers are anything like ours, they would rather see the technicians do the work (i.e., coding OTMA exits) than have to do it themselves! As for the IIH, we require it because we also require a password (authenticator) on each transaction we send to IMS. We therefore get an IIH on the replies, or build our own for the unsolicited messages from IMS. Our Audit / Security folks saw the input from OTMA (MQ) as no different than that coming from a terminal - which is exactly the way IMS sees the input! Therefore, the requirement for the password. Also, because we are passing both a userid password on every message, we needed to code a set of encryption/decryption programs (w/ the help of IBMGS) to 'hide' the password in the message flow. I must say, it is really pretty neat set-up. Cheers, Art Arthur C. Schanz Operating Systems Programmer I. - Specialist Federal Reserve Information Technology Distributed Systems Engineering IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere MQ V5.3 IBM Certified Solution Designer - WebSphere MQ V5.3 (804) 697-3889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: MQSeries List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Sending 07/29/2003 09:07 AMunsolicited messages from IMS Please respond to MQSeries List Ronald, We don't have a problem with IIH, because we don't use it! We use the IMS bridge as a form of RPC... They have quite a few secondary transactions and we call them, and for this purpose the IMS bridge is very good, we got things moving there in less then a day's work we had over 10 transactions sending data via MQ not something easily done via MQI... Cheers, D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ronald Weinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .COMcc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/29/2003 01:43 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Didi, If they want a choice between a BMW and a Mercedes there may be room to argue, but not between a BMW and a FIAT. Did you try explaining the cost benefit in pounds and lirot? With less moving parts the MQ API is much less expensive to maintain. If you gather all the MQ manuals that reference IMS and follow the small pirnt with someone who understands IMS application programming, and everything is standard IMS, it is not hard to do. Be aware of the assumptions made if the IIH header is not used. Working with conversational transactions can be tricky and nothing is ever transparent, but it is all in the manuals.. Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/29/2003 05:29 AM Please respond to MQSeries List Ronald/Neil I agree with both of you completely, unfortunately the customer does not I rather use the MQI as well, but they want to have the choice, in the mean time we are using MQI calls... Thanks. D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile
Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS
Thanks Art, I am aware of these samples, but the customer we are working with wants to see something more detailed, they will develop such exits eventually but they are kind of press for time... Cheers, D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Art Schanz [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT.FRB.ORG cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/24/2003 07:26 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Didi, You can find samples of these exits in 'WebSphere MQ for z/OS - System Setup Guide - V5R3', in Appendix B. I used the samples to develop my own copies of both of these exits. They have been functioning in our shop for more than 5 years in both non-Production Production environments, without any problems. I suggest spending some time on the initial development, as it will be time well spent! Cheers, Art Arthur C. Schanz Operating Systems Programmer I. - Specialist Federal Reserve Information Technology Distributed Systems Engineering IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere MQ V5.3 IBM Certified Solution Designer - WebSphere MQ V5.3 (804) 697-3889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: MQSeries List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Sending 07/24/2003 02:07 PM unsolicited messages from IMS Please respond to MQSeries List Hello all, I the book it says the following To send messages from IMS to a WebSphere MQ queue, you need to invoke an IMS transaction that ISRTs to an ALTPCB. You need to write pre-routing and destination resolution exits to route unsolicited messages from IMS and build the OTMA user data, so that the MQMD of the message can be built correctly Does someone have such an exit? TIA Didi Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS
Didi, Have you looked into using the MQ API from IMS without OTMA? It might be easier to modify the existing code to call an IMS module that can issue the API calls than deal with ISRTs and ALT PCBs. Check the MQ manuals for restrictions though. Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/27/2003 09:09 AM Please respond to MQSeries List Thanks Art, I am aware of these samples, but the customer we are working with wants to see something more detailed, they will develop such exits eventually but they are kind of press for time... Cheers, D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Art Schanz [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT.FRB.ORG cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/24/2003 07:26 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Didi, You can find samples of these exits in 'WebSphere MQ for z/OS - System Setup Guide - V5R3', in Appendix B. I used the samples to develop my own copies of both of these exits. They have been functioning in our shop for more than 5 years in both non-Production Production environments, without any problems. I suggest spending some time on the initial development, as it will be time well spent! Cheers, Art Arthur C. Schanz Operating Systems Programmer I. - Specialist Federal Reserve Information Technology Distributed Systems Engineering IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere MQ V5.3 IBM Certified Solution Designer - WebSphere MQ V5.3 (804) 697-3889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: MQSeries List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Sending 07/24/2003 02:07 PM unsolicited messages from IMS Please respond to MQSeries List Hello all, I the book it says the following To send messages from IMS to a WebSphere MQ queue, you need to invoke an IMS transaction that ISRTs to an ALTPCB. You need to write pre-routing and destination resolution exits to route unsolicited messages from IMS and build the OTMA user data, so that the MQMD of the message can be built correctly Does someone have such an exit? TIA Didi Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS
Hi Didi, my site are major IMS users, and we use OTMA for messages where IMS is the back end (server) application. When IMS is sending datagram or request messages, we use the MQI rather than DL/I calls so as to avoid the IMS exits. This gives us a compromise which we are hapy with. We can use existing applications (which were written for LU0) unchanged by using OTMA, and we can send messages explicitly to other systems via the MQI, which makes our IMS exit environment simpler. It also makes the code much easier to understand, because it is clear when a request messages is going to hit MQ, rather than someone reading the code needing to understand that some exit in IMS is going to redirect a special destination to an MQ queue. Regards, Neil Casey. |-+ | | Didi Dotan | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | COM | | | Sent by: MQSeries| | | List | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | n.AC.AT | | || | || | | 27/07/2003 23:09 | | | Please respond to| | | MQSeries List| | || |-+ --| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS | --| Thanks Art, I am aware of these samples, but the customer we are working with wants to see something more detailed, they will develop such exits eventually but they are kind of press for time... Cheers, D Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Art Schanz [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT.FRB.ORG cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS List [EMAIL PROTECTED] n.AC.AT 07/24/2003 07:26 PM Please respond to MQSeries List Didi, You can find samples of these exits in 'WebSphere MQ for z/OS - System Setup Guide - V5R3', in Appendix B. I used the samples to develop my own copies of both of these exits. They have been functioning in our shop for more than 5 years in both non-Production Production environments, without any problems. I suggest spending some time on the initial development, as it will be time well spent! Cheers, Art Arthur C. Schanz Operating Systems Programmer I. - Specialist Federal Reserve Information Technology Distributed Systems Engineering IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere MQ V5.3 IBM Certified Solution Designer - WebSphere MQ V5.3 (804) 697-3889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: MQSeries List To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Sending 07/24/2003 02:07 PM unsolicited messages from IMS Please respond to MQSeries List Hello all, I the book it says the following To send messages from IMS to a WebSphere MQ queue, you need to invoke an IMS transaction that ISRTs to an ALTPCB. You need to write pre-routing and destination resolution exits to route unsolicited messages from IMS and build the OTMA user data, so that the MQMD of the message can be built correctly Does someone have such an exit? TIA Didi Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
Re: Sending unsolicited messages from IMS
Didi, You can find samples of these exits in 'WebSphere MQ for z/OS - System Setup Guide - V5R3', in Appendix B. I used the samples to develop my own copies of both of these exits. They have been functioning in our shop for more than 5 years in both non-Production Production environments, without any problems. I suggest spending some time on the initial development, as it will be time well spent! Cheers, Art Arthur C. Schanz Operating Systems Programmer I. - Specialist Federal Reserve Information Technology Distributed Systems Engineering IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere MQ V5.3 IBM Certified Solution Designer - WebSphere MQ V5.3 (804) 697-3889 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Didi Dotan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/24/2003 02:07 PM Please respond to MQSeries List To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Sending unsolicited messages from IMS Hello all, I the book it says the following To send messages from IMS to a WebSphere MQ queue, you need to invoke an IMS transaction that ISRTs to an ALTPCB. You need to write pre-routing and destination resolution exits to route unsolicited messages from IMS and build the OTMA user data, so that the MQMD of the message can be built correctly Does someone have such an exit? TIA Didi Didi Dotan, Multiconn International Ltd. 43 Ha' Aliya Hashniya St., Azor 55003 ISRAEL Tel: (972) 3 556 4415 Fax: (972) 3 556 3010 Mobile:(972) 53 803908 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive
