Re: WMQI Versions

2003-12-09 Thread Christopher Frank
Andre,

>>>Basically it has to do with our local IBM support that did not really
know WBI 5.0 and
>>>could not tell us if we are able to migrate from MQSI 2.0.1 to WBI 5.0.
They suggested
>>>we first upgrade to 2.1. I did however speak to someone else at IBM
earlier this afternoon,
>>>and we are now going to investigate the possibility of upgrading
directly to 5.0.

The WBI MB 5.0 Migration Guide is quite explicit in stating that migration
to 5.0 from MQSeries Integrator Version 2.0.2 or earlier releases is not
supported.

Of course, that doesn't mean that it can't be made to work. However, even
if it worked, remember that only a 2.1 broker can coexist in a 5.0 broker
domain. So you cannot do an incremental upgrade from a pre-2.1 broker to
2.0 in any case.

If you discover otherwise it would be interesting to hear your experience.

Regards,

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Re: WMQI Versions

2003-12-09 Thread Robert Broderick
So do you have to BUY 2.1 just to migrate or does IBM offer some help in the
upgrade. HUMM that would suck!!!
bobbee


From: "Rodrmguez Alvarez-Querol, Manuel Carlos"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WMQI Versions
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:25:28 +0100
There is no possible migration from 2.0.1 to 5.0. The only migration
documented is 2.1 to 5.0.
> -Mensaje original-
> De:   Robert Broderick [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviado el:   martes 9 de diciembre de 2003 15:33
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto:   Re: WMQI Versions
>
> Thans good. I would watch the "End of Service" dates. You may be forced
to
> do twice the work. I didn't read the chapter yet BUTI have a
sneaking
> suspecision that the upgrade, given there is no NEON, may just be an
> export
> and import. But as we all know, nothing is quite as simple as it sounds.
> GOOD LUCK!!
>
>  bobbee
>
>
> >From: "van Zyl, Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: WMQI Versions
> >Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:15:57 +0200
> >
> >Hi Robert,
> >
> >Basically it has to do with our local IBM support that did not really
> know
> >WBI 5.0 and could not tell us if we are able to migrate from MQSI 2.0.1
> to
> >WBI 5.0. They suggested we first upgrade to 2.1.
> >I did however speak to someone else at IBM earlier this afternoon, and
we
> >are now going to investigate the possibility of upgrading directly to
> 5.0.
> >
> >Andre
> >
> >Sappi Integration Team
> >Tel. Direct: +27 (0)11 407 4088
> >Tel. Mobile: +27 (0)82 880 6860
> >Fax: +27 (0)11 403 8105
> >eMail (Sappi): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Robert Broderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: 09 December 2003 02:46
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: WMQI Versions
> >
> >
> >Surprised nobody said this. The current version of WBI is 5.0. Is there
a
> >reason you are not moving to that?? Except for the slight learning
curve
> >for
> >the Eclipse interface!!
> >
> >
> >bobbee
> >
> >
> > >From: "van Zyl, Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: WMQI Versions
> > >Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:42:57 +0200
> > >
> > >
> > > > We are in the process of upgrading from MQSI 2.0.1 to WMQI 2.1.
> > > >
> > > > I would just like to clarify something regarding the WMQI
versions.
> > > > On the support summary page of IBM website I see that there is a
> > >Websphere
> > > > MQ Integrator for Windows NT 2.1 (latest CSD level 5) and also a
> > >Websphere
> > > > MQ Integrator Broker for Windows NT and Windows 2000 2.1 (latest
CSD
> > >level
> > > > 6).
> > > > What is the difference - the local IBM represenative here has told
> me
> > >that
> > > > there is no difference, but why are they at different CSD levels?
-
> >why
> > > > are there seperate CSD's if these products are the same?
> > > > I would really appreciate it if someone could assist.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Andre
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
>=
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Re: WMQI Versions

2003-12-09 Thread "Rodríguez Alvarez-Querol, Manuel Carlos"
There is no possible migration from 2.0.1 to 5.0. The only migration
documented is 2.1 to 5.0.

> -Mensaje original-
> De:   Robert Broderick [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviado el:   martes 9 de diciembre de 2003 15:33
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto:   Re: WMQI Versions
>
> Thans good. I would watch the "End of Service" dates. You may be forced to
> do twice the work. I didn't read the chapter yet BUTI have a sneaking
> suspecision that the upgrade, given there is no NEON, may just be an
> export
> and import. But as we all know, nothing is quite as simple as it sounds.
> GOOD LUCK!!
>
>  bobbee
>
>
> >From: "van Zyl, Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: WMQI Versions
> >Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:15:57 +0200
> >
> >Hi Robert,
> >
> >Basically it has to do with our local IBM support that did not really
> know
> >WBI 5.0 and could not tell us if we are able to migrate from MQSI 2.0.1
> to
> >WBI 5.0. They suggested we first upgrade to 2.1.
> >I did however speak to someone else at IBM earlier this afternoon, and we
> >are now going to investigate the possibility of upgrading directly to
> 5.0.
> >
> >Andre
> >
> >Sappi Integration Team
> >Tel. Direct: +27 (0)11 407 4088
> >Tel. Mobile: +27 (0)82 880 6860
> >Fax: +27 (0)11 403 8105
> >eMail (Sappi): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Robert Broderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: 09 December 2003 02:46
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: WMQI Versions
> >
> >
> >Surprised nobody said this. The current version of WBI is 5.0. Is there a
> >reason you are not moving to that?? Except for the slight learning curve
> >for
> >the Eclipse interface!!
> >
> >
> >bobbee
> >
> >
> > >From: "van Zyl, Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: WMQI Versions
> > >Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:42:57 +0200
> > >
> > >
> > > > We are in the process of upgrading from MQSI 2.0.1 to WMQI 2.1.
> > > >
> > > > I would just like to clarify something regarding the WMQI versions.
> > > > On the support summary page of IBM website I see that there is a
> > >Websphere
> > > > MQ Integrator for Windows NT 2.1 (latest CSD level 5) and also a
> > >Websphere
> > > > MQ Integrator Broker for Windows NT and Windows 2000 2.1 (latest CSD
> > >level
> > > > 6).
> > > > What is the difference - the local IBM represenative here has told
> me
> > >that
> > > > there is no difference, but why are they at different CSD levels? -
> >why
> > > > are there seperate CSD's if these products are the same?
> > > > I would really appreciate it if someone could assist.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Andre
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >=
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Re: WMQI Versions

2003-12-09 Thread Robert Broderick
Thans good. I would watch the "End of Service" dates. You may be forced to
do twice the work. I didn't read the chapter yet BUTI have a sneaking
suspecision that the upgrade, given there is no NEON, may just be an export
and import. But as we all know, nothing is quite as simple as it sounds.
GOOD LUCK!!
bobbee


From: "van Zyl, Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WMQI Versions
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:15:57 +0200
Hi Robert,

Basically it has to do with our local IBM support that did not really know
WBI 5.0 and could not tell us if we are able to migrate from MQSI 2.0.1 to
WBI 5.0. They suggested we first upgrade to 2.1.
I did however speak to someone else at IBM earlier this afternoon, and we
are now going to investigate the possibility of upgrading directly to 5.0.
Andre

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-Original Message-
From: Robert Broderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09 December 2003 02:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WMQI Versions
Surprised nobody said this. The current version of WBI is 5.0. Is there a
reason you are not moving to that?? Except for the slight learning curve
for
the Eclipse interface!!
bobbee

>From: "van Zyl, Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: WMQI Versions
>Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:42:57 +0200
>
>
> > We are in the process of upgrading from MQSI 2.0.1 to WMQI 2.1.
> >
> > I would just like to clarify something regarding the WMQI versions.
> > On the support summary page of IBM website I see that there is a
>Websphere
> > MQ Integrator for Windows NT 2.1 (latest CSD level 5) and also a
>Websphere
> > MQ Integrator Broker for Windows NT and Windows 2000 2.1 (latest CSD
>level
> > 6).
> > What is the difference - the local IBM represenative here has told me
>that
> > there is no difference, but why are they at different CSD levels? -
why
> > are there seperate CSD's if these products are the same?
> > I would really appreciate it if someone could assist.
> > Thanks
> > Andre
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>=
>
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Re: WMQI Versions

2003-12-09 Thread van Zyl, Andre
Title: RE: WMQI Versions





Hi Robert,


Basically it has to do with our local IBM support that did not really know WBI 5.0 and could not tell us if we are able to migrate from MQSI 2.0.1 to WBI 5.0. They suggested we first upgrade to 2.1.

I did however speak to someone else at IBM earlier this afternoon, and we are now going to investigate the possibility of upgrading directly to 5.0.

Andre


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-Original Message-
From: Robert Broderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 December 2003 02:46
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WMQI Versions



Surprised nobody said this. The current version of WBI is 5.0. Is there a
reason you are not moving to that?? Except for the slight learning curve for
the Eclipse interface!!



bobbee



>From: "van Zyl, Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: WMQI Versions
>Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:42:57 +0200
>
>
> > We are in the process of upgrading from MQSI 2.0.1 to WMQI 2.1.
> >
> > I would just like to clarify something regarding the WMQI versions.
> > On the support summary page of IBM website I see that there is a
>Websphere
> > MQ Integrator for Windows NT 2.1 (latest CSD level 5) and also a
>Websphere
> > MQ Integrator Broker for Windows NT and Windows 2000 2.1 (latest CSD
>level
> > 6).
> > What is the difference - the local IBM represenative here has told me
>that
> > there is no difference, but why are they at different CSD levels? - why
> > are there seperate CSD's if these products are the same?
> > I would really appreciate it if someone could assist.
> > Thanks
> > Andre
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>=
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Re: WMQI Versions

2003-12-09 Thread Jeff A Tressler
Dont forget WebSphere Business Integration Message Broker v5.0.
I believe this is the latest version and uses Eclipse.

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Re: WMQI Versions

2003-12-09 Thread Robert Broderick
Surprised nobody said this. The current version of WBI is 5.0. Is there a
reason you are not moving to that?? Except for the slight learning curve for
the Eclipse interface!!
bobbee


From: "van Zyl, Andre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: MQSeries List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WMQI Versions
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 08:42:57 +0200
> We are in the process of upgrading from MQSI 2.0.1 to WMQI 2.1.
>
> I would just like to clarify something regarding the WMQI versions.
> On the support summary page of IBM website I see that there is a
Websphere
> MQ Integrator for Windows NT 2.1 (latest CSD level 5) and also a
Websphere
> MQ Integrator Broker for Windows NT and Windows 2000 2.1 (latest CSD
level
> 6).
> What is the difference - the local IBM represenative here has told me
that
> there is no difference, but why are they at different CSD levels? - why
> are there seperate CSD's if these products are the same?
> I would really appreciate it if someone could assist.
> Thanks
> Andre
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: WMQI Versions

2003-12-09 Thread "Rodríguez Alvarez-Querol, Manuel Carlos"
Andre,

WebSphere MQ Integrator Broker doesn´t contain NEON (upps, New Era of
Networks) components.
So, WebSphere MQ Integrator is  WebSphere MQ Integrator Broker and NEON.



> -Mensaje original-
> De:   van Zyl, Andre [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviado el:   martes 9 de diciembre de 2003 07:43
> Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Asunto:   WMQI Versions
> Importancia:  Alta
> 
> 
> We are in the process of upgrading from MQSI 2.0.1 to WMQI 2.1. 
> 
> I would just like to clarify something regarding the WMQI versions. 
> On the support summary page of IBM website I see that there is a Websphere
> MQ Integrator for Windows NT 2.1 (latest CSD level 5) and also a Websphere
> MQ Integrator Broker for Windows NT and Windows 2000 2.1 (latest CSD level
> 6).
> 
> What is the difference - the local IBM represenative here has told me that
> there is no difference, but why are they at different CSD levels? - why
> are there seperate CSD's if these products are the same?
> 
> I would really appreciate it if someone could assist. 
> Thanks 
> Andre
> 
> 
> 
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WMQI Versions

2003-12-09 Thread van Zyl, Andre
Title: WMQI Versions






We are in the process of upgrading from MQSI 2.0.1 to WMQI 2.1.


I would just like to clarify something regarding the WMQI versions. 
On the support summary page of IBM website I see that there is a Websphere MQ Integrator for Windows NT 2.1 (latest CSD level 5) and also a Websphere MQ Integrator Broker for Windows NT and Windows 2000 2.1 (latest CSD level 6).

What is the difference - the local IBM represenative here has told me that there is no difference, but why are they at different CSD levels? - why are there seperate CSD's if these products are the same?

I would really appreciate it if someone could assist.
Thanks
Andre






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