Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread minoshi
Hello!
Sorry for late answer - my host was hacked, and host admins only now 
restore my site.
 On Friday 26 July 2013 04:23:13 minoshi wrote:
 [...]

 Should I add a git repository for your MSEgui projects at MSEuniverse?
 https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse
 It could be named for example alminsoft and would be the most convenient way
 to get your current sources and to fix bugs in MSEgui. What do you think?

 Martin

Thank you, Martin. But I have enough space on my site. And i not so good 
programmer to take my code for searching bugs in mseide. :)

Anyway there is link to working material of xelplayer. 
http://almin-soft.fsay.net/data/files/tmp/xelplayer15prealfa.zip
It`s only prealfa :)


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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Saturday 27 July 2013 15:48:58 minoshi wrote:
  Do you have a git repository? I think your projects are a valuable
  contribution to MSEuniverse.
  Here is a git repository for you:
  https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/alminsoft

 Ok, maybe i shall use it.

Do you already work with a version control system? If not I can make a first 
push with your sources.

Martin

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Saturday 27 July 2013 15:48:58 minoshi wrote:

  Source for tmplayer seems to be missing.
 

 In attachment. I installed it on component palette

After some minor changes it compiles and basically runs with MSEgui git 
master. How can I play a mpg file for testing?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread minoshi

 After some minor changes it compiles and basically runs with MSEgui git
 master. How can I play a mpg file for testing?

 Martin

First of all mplayer (or mplayer2) must be installed.
mplayer must be searched via path parameter.
If not, click Settings - Mplayer tab and set mplayer path in 
mplayer path parameter.
Setting call be called via popup menu or click Show library button 
(second from right on bottom panel) and click Settings button on the 
left or click button in top-left conner of window.

Now add files in playlist :
-from internal file manager
- drag and drop from another file manager (thunar, etc)
-or click Menu button above playlist - add - files


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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Saturday 27 July 2013 17:20:22 minoshi wrote:
  After some minor changes it compiles and basically runs with MSEgui git
  master. How can I play a mpg file for testing?
 
  Martin

 First of all mplayer (or mplayer2) must be installed.
 mplayer must be searched via path parameter.
 If not, click Settings - Mplayer tab and set mplayer path in
 mplayer path parameter.
 Setting call be called via popup menu or click Show library button
 (second from right on bottom panel) and click Settings button on the
 left or click button in top-left conner of window.

 Now add files in playlist :
 -from internal file manager
 - drag and drop from another file manager (thunar, etc)
 -or click Menu button above playlist - add - files

I pushed the modified files for MSEgui git master to
https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/alminsoft

A mpg file which plays OK in Mplayer does not work in xelplayer. The error 
messages:


*** (player) VOLUME: 50
*** (player) stop : stop_it := true
update}}})
*** (player) play : stop_it := false
*** (player) 
*** (player) ALSMPLAYER VERSION 0.13.2 beta
*** (player) NOTE: strings with *** is output of alsmmplayer class,
*** (player)   without is output of mplayer
*** (player) 
*** (player) PLAY ***
*** (player) stop : stop_it := true
*** (player) CHECK PLAYER: mplayer found : /usr/bin/mplayer
*** (player) CHECKSOUCE: source is local file
*** (player) PLAY:  /usr/bin/mplayer -softvol -quiet -slave -volume 50 -wid 
106958540   -nodouble -stop-xscreensaver  -nocache -framedrop -af 
equalizer=0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0 -brightness 0 -contrast 0 -hue 0 -saturation 
0 -vf screenshot  -ss 0  /home/mse/test/DELTA.MPG
*** (player) MPlayer dev-SVN-r33030-4.5-openSUSE Linux 11.4 (i686)-Packman (C) 
2000-2011 MPlayer Team
Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0: No such file or directory
Can't init input joystick
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
*** (player) Loading extension-related profile 'vo.vdpau'
*** (player) Playing /home/mse/test/DELTA.MPG.
*** (player) MPEG-ES file format detected.
*** (player) VIDEO:  MPEG1  320x200  (aspect 1)  23.976 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0 
kbyte/s)
*** (player) Load subtitles in /home/mse/test/
Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r200.so: cannot open shared object file: 
No such file or directory
[vdpau] Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 1
The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
Try appending the scale filter to your filter list,
e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp.
*** (player) Opening video filter: [screenshot]
==
Forced video codec: ffmpeg12vdpau
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffmpeg12vdpau] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-1/2 (VDPAU))
==
Audio: no sound
Starting playback...
[VD_FFMPEG] XVMC-accelerated MPEG-2.
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
*** (player) RECEIVE TEXT: Starting playback
*** (player) RECEIVE TEXT: Try get video resolution ...
*** (player) SEND CMD DIRECTLY : get_video_resolution
[mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
Error while decoding frame!
[mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
Error while decoding frame!
[mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
Error while decoding frame!
[mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
Error while decoding frame!
[mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
Error while decoding frame!
[mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
Error while decoding frame!
[mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
Error while decoding frame!
[mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
Error while decoding frame!
[mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
Error while decoding frame!

FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
*** (player) 
*** (player) Exiting... (End of file)
*** (player) 
*** (player) pipe is broken
*** (player) End of track
*** (player) ON PROGFINISHED : Request for next ...
*** (player) ON PROGFINISHED : Assepted
*** (player) TIMER : Call next
*** (player) stop : stop_it := true
*** (player) NEXT: stop_it := 0
*** (player) NEXT: End of playlist
*** (player) NEXT: Repeat playlist not allowed


I'll investigate later, I must leave now.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread minoshi
27.07.2013 23:22, Martin Schreiber пишет:
 On Saturday 27 July 2013 17:20:22 minoshi wrote:
 After some minor changes it compiles and basically runs with MSEgui git
 master. How can I play a mpg file for testing?

 Martin
 First of all mplayer (or mplayer2) must be installed.
 mplayer must be searched via path parameter.
 If not, click Settings - Mplayer tab and set mplayer path in
 mplayer path parameter.
 Setting call be called via popup menu or click Show library button
 (second from right on bottom panel) and click Settings button on the
 left or click button in top-left conner of window.

 Now add files in playlist :
 -from internal file manager
 - drag and drop from another file manager (thunar, etc)
 -or click Menu button above playlist - add - files

 I pushed the modified files for MSEgui git master to
 https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/alminsoft

 A mpg file which plays OK in Mplayer does not work in xelplayer. The error
 messages:

 
 *** (player) VOLUME: 50
 *** (player) stop : stop_it := true
 update}}})
 *** (player) play : stop_it := false
 *** (player) 
 *** (player) ALSMPLAYER VERSION 0.13.2 beta
 *** (player) NOTE: strings with *** is output of alsmmplayer class,
 *** (player)   without is output of mplayer
 *** (player) 
 *** (player) PLAY ***
 *** (player) stop : stop_it := true
 *** (player) CHECK PLAYER: mplayer found : /usr/bin/mplayer
 *** (player) CHECKSOUCE: source is local file
 *** (player) PLAY:  /usr/bin/mplayer -softvol -quiet -slave -volume 50 -wid
 106958540   -nodouble -stop-xscreensaver  -nocache -framedrop -af
 equalizer=0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0 -brightness 0 -contrast 0 -hue 0 -saturation
 0 -vf screenshot  -ss 0  /home/mse/test/DELTA.MPG
 *** (player) MPlayer dev-SVN-r33030-4.5-openSUSE Linux 11.4 (i686)-Packman (C)
 2000-2011 MPlayer Team
 Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0: No such file or directory
 Can't init input joystick
 mplayer: could not connect to socket
 mplayer: No such file or directory
 Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
 *** (player) Loading extension-related profile 'vo.vdpau'
 *** (player) Playing /home/mse/test/DELTA.MPG.
 *** (player) MPEG-ES file format detected.
 *** (player) VIDEO:  MPEG1  320x200  (aspect 1)  23.976 fps0.0 kbps ( 0.0
 kbyte/s)
 *** (player) Load subtitles in /home/mse/test/
 Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r200.so: cannot open shared object file:
 No such file or directory
 [vdpau] Error when calling vdp_device_create_x11: 1
 The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
 Try appending the scale filter to your filter list,
 e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp.
 *** (player) Opening video filter: [screenshot]
 ==
 Forced video codec: ffmpeg12vdpau
 Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
 Selected video codec: [ffmpeg12vdpau] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG-1/2 (VDPAU))
 ==
 Audio: no sound
 Starting playback...
 [VD_FFMPEG] XVMC-accelerated MPEG-2.
 Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
 Opening video filter: [scale]
 *** (player) RECEIVE TEXT: Starting playback
 *** (player) RECEIVE TEXT: Try get video resolution ...
 *** (player) SEND CMD DIRECTLY : get_video_resolution
 [mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
 Error while decoding frame!
 [mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
 Error while decoding frame!
 [mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
 Error while decoding frame!
 [mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
 Error while decoding frame!
 [mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
 Error while decoding frame!
 [mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
 Error while decoding frame!
 [mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
 Error while decoding frame!
 [mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
 Error while decoding frame!
 [mpegvideo_vdpau @ 0x88e2220]get_buffer() failed (-1 0 0 (nil))
 Error while decoding frame!

 FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
 *** (player)
 *** (player) Exiting... (End of file)
 *** (player)
 *** (player) pipe is broken
 *** (player) End of track
 *** (player) ON PROGFINISHED : Request for next ...
 *** (player) ON PROGFINISHED : Assepted
 *** (player) TIMER : Call next
 *** (player) stop : stop_it := true
 *** (player) NEXT: stop_it := 0
 *** (player) NEXT: End of playlist
 *** (player) NEXT: Repeat playlist not allowed
 
What video output used? (settings - mplayer - video output)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Saturday 27 July 2013 21:12:20 minoshi wrote:


 What video output used? (settings - mplayer - video output)

Default. It works with X11.
What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

Martin

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Issue with

2013-07-27 Thread Sieghard
Hallo Martin,

Du schriebst am Sat, 27 Jul 2013 07:11:05 +0200:

 The underline in caption properties is a marker for the
 Alt+CharacterKey input focus change target, a Delphi relict. In order

Yes, I realize that. But I realize also that this is a very useless
feature for a _label_ that cannot get an input focus, and I'm not sure
whether it even has the marker property in Delphi (and it's somewhat
painful to check that under Linux).

 to display simple text use tstringdisp (as I advised minoshi), in

But this is a different control for a different purpose - it's meant
for display of dynamic content, and advertises its presence through
graphical elements - elements that a label is lacking, as that's meant
to just label (hence the name) something that cannot display the text
itself, and it's not meant to be very dynamic (although it might have
to change sometimes or be filled with text constructed from external
data).
At least, that's _my_ view of the elements, judging from _my_
understanding of their names.

  situation, and the system author responded with a suggestion for
  another feature or option, immediately followed by the announcement
  of its (experimental, yet in the main branch) implementation - and a
  user's response to the effect that the issue was solved otherwise.
  Too late...
 
 I try to fullfill the user needs in a most universal and orthogonal

Fine, and everybody will be so grateful about that. Although noone
remebers what some specific option might be good for (do you? For _all_
of them?), it's rewarding that about everyone got his own special
options... (Yes, I _do_ remeber that you did reward me some as well,
I was just too slow with even reading your response to be able to avoid
that...)
In my view, introducing yet another option isn't really universal
(especially when this requires to sort out all the options by using
some arbitrary prefix to avoid name clashes), and the option space soon
gets cluttered up quite some, with some options not _quite_ orthogonal
to all the others, because they require some and contradict others.
Spaces of high dimensionality get very involved quite soon, even if the
dimensions are just binary.

 way. Often instead to implement a special feature I remove a
 limitation of a already existing functionality or add a flag in

Fine, removing a limitation should be helpful most of the time.
_If_ the restriction was not really neccessary in the first place, to
avoid some clash or other undesirable effect. But then, the restriction
shouldn't be in place at all, because there was no neccessity for it?

 option set property. Option flags use a single bit in a 32 bit number
 only and are memory efficient.

They still require code to process, and they add to the combinatorial
complexity of the system. (Hah - add: they potentiate it.)

  (You certainly know the german phrase voreilender Gehorsam? :-)
  Yes, indeed, I think you're often overresponsive.
 
 I try to make MSEgui so that the users can work with it in the manner
 they like, they should not be forced to use a specific pattern. So I

That's a very nice trait of you, and I don't even mean that ironic.
But - this is a trait that can bring one in deep trouble quite fast, as
there are so many ways someone can want to do something. If you want to
support _all_ of them, you might get tied up in huge mess of
contradictory functions (thinking of the historical Gordic Knot;)
that require even more restrictions to keep the whole mess working
somehow. I won't judge how far away from such a state MSEIDE+MSEGUI
is right now, I just want to express my concern that it might be going
in such a direction or might even be on its way there already.
(Can you tell for _every_ option of a moderatly complex component
immediately what it effects? If not, this might be somewhat overly
complicated already.)
Sometimes, they say, less is more - you can relate this to complexity
versus usability here.

Sorry for the longwinded treatise...

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread minoshi

 Default. It works with X11.
 What are the steps to reproduce the problem?

 Martin

Copy command in the terminal and removing one parameter after another to 
find what option does not work for you system:

usr/bin/mplayer -softvol -quiet -slave -volume 50 -wid 106958540 
-nodouble -stop-xscreensaver -nocache -framedrop -af 
equalizer=0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0 -brightness 0 -contrast 0 -hue 0 
-saturation 0 -vf screenshot -ss 0 /home/mse/test/DELTA.MPG

I think one of them  -softvol  -nodouble -stop-xscreensaver -nocache 
-framedrop

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread minoshi
Copy command in the terminal without -wid 106958540!


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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fullscreen, how?

2013-07-27 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Sunday 28 July 2013 02:51:31 minoshi wrote:
  Default. It works with X11.
  What are the steps to reproduce the problem?
 
  Martin

 Copy command in the terminal and removing one parameter after another to
 find what option does not work for you system:
 
 usr/bin/mplayer -softvol -quiet -slave -volume 50 -wid 106958540
 -nodouble -stop-xscreensaver -nocache -framedrop -af
 equalizer=0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:0 -brightness 0 -contrast 0 -hue 0
 -saturation 0 -vf screenshot -ss 0 /home/mse/test/DELTA.MPG
 
 I think one of them  -softvol  -nodouble -stop-xscreensaver -nocache
 -framedrop

The problem with the default commandline is the missing -vo x11 parameter. 
With the x11 output the video plays in xelplayer.
I meant what are the steps to reproduce the user problem with fullscreen  
normal? It works for me.

Martin

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