Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] mseide 3.4 (some problems)
2014-08-20 6:52 UTC+01:00, Martin Schreiber : > On Tuesday 19 August 2014 21:18:47 misu kun wrote: >> thanks Martin , every things is ok now >> >> still waiting for fix of compilation with fpc 2.7.1 :D >> > Why? > > Martin > 2.7.1 is powerful than 2.6 , alot of optimizations has been included plus some new extentions . i personally did some benchmark (pixels manupilations) with both 2.6 and 2.7.1 , i got ~30% speed boost with 2.7.1 -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] a wish
it would be good if "select component" window becomes dockable , and its list of components will displayed as tree instead of single list , so knowing the parents of components will be easy -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] a wish
On Wednesday 20 August 2014 09:59:30 misu kun wrote: > it would be good if "select component" window becomes dockable , and > its list of components will displayed as tree instead of single list , > so knowing the parents of components will be easy > It is a tree ordered by owner, see attachment. It supports incremental search and is displayed by Ctrl+F in an active form editor. I am a little bit reluctant to implement additional windows in MSEide because I fear to produce a monster IDE in the end. Martin -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] General
Hey Martin, having "played" with mseide-msegui a bit, but found it very difficult to use. To use means, that there is almost no documentation nor sample programms available, where you can pick up some information about usage of components or features. To improve this excellent piece of software and make it accessible to even more not so experienced users (like myself, coming from Turbo Pascal --> Delphi --> Lazarus), I would strongly recommend : 1. Issue a short description of (nearly) each component (widget), describing its major functions and features. 2. Provide more "simple" programm samples, showing the functionality of the software (e.g. MDI, embedded forms, skinning, database, etc.). I think, this will help many users using your excellent software. Regards Michael -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] General
On 08/20/2014 03:04 PM, Michael wrote: > Hey Martin, > having "played" with mseide-msegui a bit, but found it very difficult to > use. To use means, that there is almost no documentation nor sample > programms available, where you can pick up some information about usage > of components or features. To improve this excellent piece of software > and make it accessible to even more not so experienced users (like > myself, coming from Turbo Pascal --> Delphi --> Lazarus), I would > strongly recommend : > 1. Issue a short description of (nearly) each component (widget), > describing its major functions and features. > 2. Provide more "simple" programm samples, showing the functionality of > the software (e.g. MDI, embedded forms, skinning, database, etc.). > > I think, this will help many users using your excellent software. > After using this product myself for many years I have tried to develope some documentation for it. Unfortunately, I have found that what I use mseide-msegui for doesn't really allow me to documetn it. I only know what I actually use.So I can provide some samples of that, but nothing else. So what do you use / want to use mseide-msegui for? Perhaps you could document a few simple examples of what you do with mseide-msegui. Or lets us know what comonets you want to use. If we know what components are actually used, we can document them. That way, we could build up a larger set of samples / documentation for new users. -- Patrick Goupell Are you free? Find out at http://www.sedm.org/ Income taxes? Find out at http://www.whatistaxed.com -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] General
On 2014-08-20 20:31, Patrick Goupell wrote: > know what components are actually used, we can document them. That way, > we could build up a larger set of samples / documentation for new users. May I also suggest you use fpdoc's XML format for documentation. That way you can use it to further generated HTML, PDF, CHM, INF, MAN pages, TXT etc help text. The little bit of MSEgui documentation I have seen was just some random scattered text and topics in a single TXT file. You can't do anything with that! Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] General
On Wednesday 20 August 2014 21:04:09 Michael wrote: > Hey Martin, > having "played" with mseide-msegui a bit, but found it very difficult to > use. To use means, that there is almost no documentation nor sample > programms available, where you can pick up some information about usage > of components or features. To improve this excellent piece of software > and make it accessible to even more not so experienced users (like > myself, coming from Turbo Pascal --> Delphi --> Lazarus), I would > strongly recommend : > 1. Issue a short description of (nearly) each component (widget), > describing its major functions and features. > 2. Provide more "simple" programm samples, showing the functionality of > the software (e.g. MDI, embedded forms, skinning, database, etc.). > > I think, this will help many users using your excellent software. > Sure. But somebody must do it! ;-) There were several attempts but none has been finished AFAIK. A list with useful links is here: http://mseide-msegui.sourceforge.net/ A beginner course written by me (German): http://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse/files/book/ Some examples are here: https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/mseuniverse/source/samples or from another aborted attempt: https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/mseuniverse/source/attic/msedocumenting/mse/trunk/help/tutorials Please don't start a discussion about the needed tools, it comes to nothing. The end is that people write that if I would develop and integrate the perfect documenting and help tools into MSEide, then they would write MSEide+MSEgui documentation. I don't believe it. The only thing what would happen is that the people would use the "perfect" tools in their own projects. ;-) Martin -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
