Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI lost drag n drop example in new environment

2021-06-04 Thread fredvs
Hello.

For fpGUI stuffs please use the site http://geldenhuys.co.uk/webnews/ or use
GitHub and create a issue: https://github.com/graemeg/fpGUI/issues .

Thanks.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 07 October 2013 18:02:43 Алексей Логинов wrote:
> >I suggest to write for fun a last paragraph about a fade for the form
>
> Done.

That are colors! :-)))

> I only did not understand how to change color for window's caption.
> You have blue caption, but I have only grey.
>
It is the window manager which defines the window decoration. I use KDE 3.5 
with classic style.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Алексей Логинов
>I suggest to write for fun a last paragraph about a fade for the form
Done.
I only did not understand how to change color for window's caption.
You have blue caption, but I have only grey.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Алексей Логинов
I rebuilt RPM package with current git, rewrote whole translation and
there is no problem now.
Problem was in libi18n_ru.so, because MSEi18n determined strings
incorrect, which were changed, and mixed other strings.
For example, I have translated string Y as original string X. You
changed X as Z. But MSEi18n uses string Y for Z. It means I have old
translation for new changed strings. No mechanizm "fuzzy".
I fixed article:
http://wiki.mageialinux.ru/index.php?title=MSEide%2BMSEgui_-_Free_Pascal_и_X-приложения

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 07 October 2013 11:32:17 Алексей Логинов wrote:
> >I do not understand why in object inspector the left column is bad and the
> >right OK. They should have the same font settings.
>
> No problem in the original MSEIDE.
> How to reproduce:
> - to run translated mseide and to click on form.
> - if to click on Object Inspector, then font will be bigger.

I could reproduce the problem with the binary build by the megaia rpm. Then I 
made the i18n and compiled MSEide myself - the problem vanished. Please try 
this binary:
http://mseide-msegui.sourceforge.net/temp/megaia.tar.bz2

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Алексей Логинов
Graeme,
Thank you. Now it seems I understood how to use newsgroups.

>This promotes the idea that only "really used units" appear in the uses
>clause. Tools like Delphi or Lazarus IDE will gladly add new units to a
>uses clauses, but never remove them when the components are deleted
>later. This causes large uses clauses, more bulky executables and longer
>compile times.

>Nevertheless, I'll add it to my todo list, but this is not a priority to
>me. Obviously I will welcome patches for this too, if you want the
>feature sooner.
It's better to have option in uidesigner. For example, by default you
will not change "uses", but users will have possibility to change
"uses".
Thank's for understanding.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2013-10-07 10:47, Martin Schreiber wrote:
> 
> What happens if you set LANG=en_US@utf8 so it uses the English version?

That's a strange value format... Here under Linux and FreeBSD it is as
follows:

  set LANG=en_US.UTF-8


Note the "dot", not the "at" sign.


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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2013-10-07 10:45, Алексей Логинов wrote:
>> http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/support.shtml
> I saw, but I understood nothing how to use newsgroups.

They work just like emails, but you don't need to enter a To address. :)
Simply register the server with your news client, subscribe to the
groups you want. Select a group, and click the New Message button. Now
write your message just like email, and click Send.

But if you don't want to setup a News Client (eg: Mozilla Thunderbird,
XanaNews etc), then you can use the web interface too.

  http://opensoft.homeip.net/webnews/


> I don't agree with you. It's bug If unit, which was created by
> uidesigner, can not be compiled.

This promotes the idea that only "really used units" appear in the uses
clause. Tools like Delphi or Lazarus IDE will gladly add new units to a
uses clauses, but never remove them when the components are deleted
later. This causes large uses clauses, more bulky executables and longer
compile times.

Nevertheless, I'll add it to my todo list, but this is not a priority to
me. Obviously I will welcome patches for this too, if you want the
feature sooner.


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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 07 October 2013 11:32:17 Алексей Логинов wrote:
> >I do not understand why in object inspector the left column is bad and the
> >right OK. They should have the same font settings.
>
> No problem in the original MSEIDE.
> How to reproduce:
> - to run translated mseide and to click on form.
> - if to click on Object Inspector, then font will be bigger.

What happens if you set LANG=en_US@utf8 so it uses the English version?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Алексей Логинов
>fpGUI has its own support newsgroups, so please move any future fpGUI
>posts there. Please see the following URL for details:
>http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/support.shtml
I saw, but I understood nothing how to use newsgroups.

>Please see my reply. It is not a bug, but by design.
I don't agree with you. It's bug If unit, which was created by
uidesigner, can not be compiled. I watched Russian Internet links
about this problem - many people wrote about this bug. This bug is
very spoil the impression of the uidesigner.
If you don't want to fix this bug in upsteam, then will you help to write patch?

>'ll move all uidesigner text to resourcestring's to make it
>possible to translate at application.

Good. I'll translate.

>I am planning on adding events to the Object Inspector window.

Good news.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 07 October 2013 11:17:06 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> @Martin,
> Sorry for this. Not sure why the user posted fpGUI related questions here.
>
No problem, we are in the same boat. :-)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
@Martin,
Sorry for this. Not sure why the user posted fpGUI related questions here.

@Алексей Логинов,
fpGUI has its own support newsgroups, so please move any future fpGUI
posts there. Please see the following URL for details:
http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/support.shtml


On 2013-10-05 20:54, Алексей Логинов wrote:
> I want to build RPM package for fpGUI and for uidesigner. I found bug
> https://sourceforge.net/p/fpgui/bugs/12 . Who can write patch?

Please see my reply. It is not a bug, but by design.


> I need translation for uidesigner also, I can translate into Russian,
> but I did not understand how.

fpGUI uses standard FPC resource strings and the standardised *.po
files. I'll move all uidesigner text to resourcestring's to make it
possible to translate at application. You can then use any PO editor
(eg: gtranslator, poedit, KBabel etc) or simply a text editor to
translate the text to a uidesigner.ru.po file. For more details, please
see the "docs/translating_your_application.txt" file. The fpGUI
framework itself already has a Russian translation
(languages/fpgui.ru.po), though not sure if it is 100% up to date.


> Graeme, what are your plans for code editor and events for uidesigner?
> There are no GUI for adding events.

I am planning on adding events to the Object Inspector window. In the
mean time the "Unknown lines" memo in the Object Inspector is used.


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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 07 October 2013 10:22:25 Ivanko B wrote:
> Proper LINUX non-latin setup for scalable fonts means deep knowledge.
> (partially described in the PERSONS tutorial, see MSEdocumenting )

I do not understand why in object inspector the left column is bad and the 
right OK. They should have the same font settings.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Ivanko B
Proper LINUX non-latin setup for scalable fonts means deep knowledge.
(partially described in the PERSONS tutorial, see MSEdocumenting )
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 07 October 2013 09:40:44 Алексей Логинов wrote:
> It's random problem. I can not reproduce it in translated MSEide,

You can not reproduce in "translated" or "not translated" MSEide?

> I don't know steps for reproduce.
>
> >Do you have any --fontalias= definition on commandline?
>
> No, all by default.
>
It must be fixed or at least the images in the wiki must be replaced by 
correct looking examples. Believe me, people will deny to use MSEide if there 
are "such ugly fonts" in the example screenshots.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Алексей Логинов
It's random problem. I can not reproduce it in translated MSEide, I
don't know steps for reproduce.
>Do you have any --fontalias= definition on commandline?
No, all by default.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 07 October 2013 09:28:21 Алексей Логинов wrote:
> >There is something wrong with font in objectinspector and component
> > palette. It shows courier and looks ugly. Why?
>
> It's default settings for MSEIDE. For the first run IDE, font is OK,
> but some time later font changes automatic bigger. I did not see this
> problem in prev. release.
>
Please try with the untranslated original MSEide. Problem still here? Do you 
have any --fontalias= definition on commandline?

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-07 Thread Алексей Логинов
>There is something wrong with font in objectinspector and component palette.
>It shows courier and looks ugly. Why?
It's default settings for MSEIDE. For the first run IDE, font is OK,
but some time later font changes automatic bigger. I did not see this
problem in prev. release.

>a tintegedit is visible although it is not placed yet.
fixed.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-06 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Monday 07 October 2013 00:19:04 Алексей Логинов wrote:
> Martin,
> http://wiki.mageialinux.ru/index.php?title=MSEide%2BMSEgui_-_Free_Pascal_и_
>X-приложения
>
:-)
There is something wrong with font in objectinspector and component palette. 
It shows courier and looks ugly. Why?
Here
http://wiki.mageialinux.ru/index.php?title=%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Mseide10.png
a tintegedit is visible although it is not placed yet.

I suggest to write for fun a last paragraph about a fade for the form:
- click on container.face [...]-button
- click on container.face.fade_color.count [...]-button.
- In fade editor click in the horizontal bar on top.
- Move the little red triangle by mouse until it looks as you like.
- Click OK:
[fade.png]
- Click on a-tintegeredit.
- Ctrl+Click on b-tintegeredit.
- Ctrl+Click on res-tintegerdisp.
- In objectinspector set color to cl_transparent.

- similar set a fade for the button.
- set the fade direction to gd_up:
[fade1.png]

- and for the tintegerdisp with gd_down and non gray fade colors:
[fade2.png]

Martin
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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-06 Thread Алексей Логинов
Martin,
http://wiki.mageialinux.ru/index.php?title=MSEide%2BMSEgui_-_Free_Pascal_и_X-приложения

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-06 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Sunday 06 October 2013 21:23:45 Алексей Логинов wrote:
> >Many years old article by STAKANOV is all AFAIK. It is really time to
> > write something new, for example side by side to the fpGUI wiki you
> > wrote. I suggest an example with tintegeredit to add two numbers. I can
> > make the example if you like.
>
> I like your idea. I'll write article about MSEide as for fpgui.
>
Here:
https://gitorious.org/mseuniverse/mseuniverse/source/d83d1284a3bb6077f01b08541417e9f14d8998ca:samples/education/addition

The code:
"
procedure tmainfo.dataenteredexe(const sender: TObject);
begin
 res.value:= a.value + b.value;
end;

procedure tmainfo.exitexe(const sender: TObject);
begin
 close;
end;
"

No fiddling with inttostr(), strtoint() and what not. ;-)

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-06 Thread Алексей Логинов
>Many years old article by STAKANOV is all AFAIK. It is really time to write
>something new, for example side by side to the fpGUI wiki you wrote. I
>suggest an example with tintegeredit to add two numbers. I can make the
>example if you like.

I like your idea. I'll write article about MSEide as for fpgui.

>In MSEide I use a Pascal Parser for the purpose. In fpGUI designer something
>simpler probably could be done. I am sure that it is no problem for Graeme to
>implement the missing feature.

We can wait Graeme and we can help for him to write patch. I can not
write patch and I'm finding a programmer, who can do that.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-06 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Sunday 06 October 2013 20:55:25 Алексей Логинов wrote:
> I support RPM packages for Free Pascal: fpc, lazarus, fp-ide-ru,
> mseide-msegui, geany, etc. and now fpgui, uidesigner.
> All of them I include in my EduMagic distro.
> MSEide+MSEgui have some Russian documentation,

Many years old article by STAKANOV is all AFAIK. It is really time to write 
something new, for example side by side to the fpGUI wiki you wrote. I 
suggest an example with tintegeredit to add two numbers. I can make the 
example if you like.
 
> but it is only the 
> second Russian article for fpgui, that's why I wrote it.
> Martin, will you help to fix bug for uidesigner:
> http://sourceforge.net/p/fpgui/bugs/12 ?. It's very important error.
>
In MSEide I use a Pascal Parser for the purpose. In fpGUI designer something 
simpler probably could be done. I am sure that it is no problem for Graeme to 
implement the missing feature.

Martin

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-06 Thread Алексей Логинов
I support RPM packages for Free Pascal: fpc, lazarus, fp-ide-ru,
mseide-msegui, geany, etc. and now fpgui, uidesigner.
All of them I include in my EduMagic distro.
MSEide+MSEgui have some Russian documentation, but it is only the
second Russian article for fpgui, that's why I wrote it.
Martin, will you help to fix bug for uidesigner:
http://sourceforge.net/p/fpgui/bugs/12 ?. It's very important error.

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-06 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Sunday 06 October 2013 20:15:37 Алексей Логинов wrote:
> There are RPM packages fpgui, uidesigner:
> ftp://ftp.mageialinux.ru/mageia2 and Russian wiki for children:
> http://wiki.mageialinux.ru/index.php?title=FpGUI_-_Free_Pascal_и_X-приложен
>ия
>
What about something similar for MSEide+MSEgui? BTW, I actually know children 
who successfully use MSEide+MSEgui.

Martin

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Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] fpGUI

2013-10-06 Thread Алексей Логинов
There are RPM packages fpgui, uidesigner:
ftp://ftp.mageialinux.ru/mageia2 and Russian wiki for children:
http://wiki.mageialinux.ru/index.php?title=FpGUI_-_Free_Pascal_и_X-приложения

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