date:20141230

RE: [mssms] SCCM Console getteing Creashed while deleting the SCCM 2007 R3 collections

2014-12-30 Thread Christopher.Catlett

You might need to use wmi to remove that collection

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc143328.aspx

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Eswar Koneti
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 22:07
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Console getteing Creashed while deleting the SCCM 
2007 R3 collections

deleting collection from DB is not supported way .is this happening all the 
time while deleting other collections or just to one ?
Regards
Eswar Koneti
www.eskonr.com

From: ranvirsingh...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:32:04 +0100
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCCM Console getteing Creashed while deleting the SCCM 
2007 R3 collections
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Hi Eswar,

Collection query (WQL) is the correct query.. I given a try with multiple 
collection sytax with WQL query, some are empty collections... not working... 
If i want to delete im deleting from the database
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Eswar Koneti 
mailto:eswarkon...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Why does your wql(collection query) has count? It willl not give you the count 
of pcs in collection instead reports.
Correct the collection with right syntax?
Did you verify the collection syntax?

Regards,
Eswar Koneti
www.eskonr.com
Sent from Mobile Device, excuse any typo's as a result.

--- Original Message ---

From: "Ranvir singh" mailto:ranvirsingh...@gmail.com>>
Sent: December 29, 2014 10:19 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] SCCM Console getteing Creashed while deleting the SCCM 2007 R3 
collections
Hi Team,

Im getting the below error while deleting the collection from SCCM 2007 R3

An error occured in ConfigMgr. The ConfigMgr console will continue to function, 
however you should save your work and restart the console. After restarting the 
console, verify that your last configurations have been applied.

System.ArgumentException: An error message must be supplied.
Parameter name: message
   at 
Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.SmsErrorDialog..ctor(String 
details, String message, String caption, Icon icon)
   at 
Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.SmsErrorDialog..ctor(Exception 
ex, String message, String caption)
   at 
Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.DeleteCollectionWizard.DeleteCollectionWizardForm.PostApply(BackgroundWorker
 worker, DoWorkEventArgs e)
   at Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.SmsWizardForm.OnFinish()
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, 
Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr 
wparam, IntPtr lparam)

Admin UI .log

[3][12/29/2014 2:00:45 PM] :Help topic not found in 'HelpTopicLinks.xml' for 
topic ID: '7e96e251-ed74-4905-87c0-77d082a5fa4d'
[3][12/29/2014 2:01:00 PM] :Help topic not found in 'HelpTopicLinks.xml' for 
topic ID: '7e96e251-ed74-4905-87c0-77d082a5fa4d'
[17][12/29/2014 2:36:45 PM] :System.Management.ManagementException\r\nGeneric 
failure \r\n   at 
System.Management.ManagementException.ThrowWithExtendedInfo(ManagementStatus 
errorCode)
   at 
System.Management.ManagementObjectCollection.ManagementObjectEnumerator.MoveNext()
   at 
Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.ManagementProvider.WqlQueryEngine.WqlQueryResultsObject.d__0.MoveNext()\r\nManagementException
 details:
instance of __ExtendedStatus
{
 Description = "[42000][156][Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL 
Server]Incorrect syntax near the keyword 'AS'.";
 Operation = "ExecQuery";
 ParameterInfo = "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM SMS_CM_RES_COLL_XXXcollID";
 ProviderName = "WinMgmt";
 StatusCode = 2147749889;
};
\r\n

Any idea please

Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Michael Roach

I’m curious to hear from those that have App-V and/or Citrix XenApp if they 
find themselves still deploying the Office suite and other mainline LOB 
applications (SAP, IBM Notes/Outlook, etc) as a local install of if 
App-V/XenApp has allowed them to keep the local installs to an absolute minimum.


That description of an “in-place” upgrade of Office 2010 to 2013 is what we 
term a rip-and-replace; an in-place upgrade would be one where an uninstall 
wasn’t first performed. 


It seems to becoming more common for us to have to follow complex 
rip-and-replace scripts for applications (simply applying an upgrade to IBM 
Notes is a real PITA). In 2015 there’s a chance we may gain access to Citrix 
XenApp and App-V and I’m wondering just how much its realistic to assume we can 
eliminate the local installs for some of these core applications.





From: Phil Wilcock
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎30‎, ‎2014 ‎4‎:‎38‎ ‎PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com






Hmm, be great if the user could just carry on working while their machine was 
being upgraded, eh Junior? J 

 



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: 30 December 2014 18:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

 

Yeah, it was more of a fact that it takes so long that nobody does it, it’s 
quicker to blast the machine and put a new image down.

 

//A

 



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Hanley, Kevin
Sent: den 30 december 2014 18:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

 

We did an in-place upgrade of Office 2010 to Office 2013 using SCCM:

 

 

1.   Communicate/Schedule with users for groups of 50-100 per night (remove 
anyone who opts out from collection)

a.   Instruct laptop users to leave machines in office powered on

2.   Scheduled installs for 8pm (to avoid anyone who is working late and to 
ensure machines have not gone to sleep)

3.   Cancelled deployments if hadn’t kicked off by 4am (to avoid bad 
morning for end user and help desk)

4.   Cached files for Office 2013 (and also Visio and Project 2013 as 
necessary)

5.   Deployed front-end that gave user a 5 min countdown:

a.   Defer for 60 mins

b.  Defer for 10 mins

c.   Run Now

d.  Cancel and Reschedule for later

6.   If User chooses to Run Now (or no user present)

a.   Reboot

b.  Run Office 2010 uninstall

c.   Reboot

d.  Run Office 2013 install

e.  Reboot

7.   Send log file from client along the way to a network share to allow 
monitoring of status (cancelled/deferred/uninstallphase/installphase/errors)

 

We used hklm\system\setup\cmdline keys to run the uninstall/install similar to 
a Windows Update or Mini-Setup before the user can login (to avoid them 
relaunching Office apps and interfering with install:

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/windows/en-US/b942a34d-c4a7-489c-bb01-45dd65fa9b20/setuptype-and-cmdline-at-hkeylocalmachinesystemsetup

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:02 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

 


precache office then install.


 


On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Hammarskjöld 
 wrote:




So who in here has ever done an in place upgrade of Office? Rebuilt of image is 
always quicker…? Or am I wrong?

 

//A

 



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: den 29 december 2014 22:33
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

 

Downside of beta’s, people already make up their mind.

Even if it’s just sentiment, you don’t switch people over from one way of doing 
things to another overnight.

The quickest thing our industry embraced was server virtualization and even 
that took multiple releases, and multiple years before it became the mainstream 
way of implementing servers in production.

 



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

 



People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.


 



From: Marable, Mike
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS


 



“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

 

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck wi

RE: [mssms] SCCM Console getteing Creashed while deleting the SCCM 2007 R3 collections

2014-12-30 Thread Eswar Koneti

deleting collection from DB is not supported way .is this happening all the 
time while deleting other collections or just to one ? 

RegardsEswar Koneti 
www.eskonr.com



From: ranvirsingh...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:32:04 +0100
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCCM Console getteing Creashed while deleting the SCCM 
2007 R3 collections
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com

Hi Eswar, Collection query (WQL) is the correct query.. I given a try with 
multiple collection sytax with WQL query, some are empty collections... not 
working... If i want to delete im deleting from the database
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Eswar Koneti  wrote:







Why does your wql(collection query) has count? It willl not give you the count 
of pcs in collection instead reports.


Correct the collection with right syntax? 

Did you verify the collection syntax? 



Regards, 

Eswar Koneti

www.eskonr.com

Sent from Mobile Device, excuse any typo's as a result.



--- Original Message ---



From: "Ranvir singh" 

Sent: December 29, 2014 10:19 PM

To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com

Subject: [mssms] SCCM Console getteing Creashed while deleting the SCCM 2007 R3 
collections





Hi Team,
 
Im getting the below error while deleting the collection from SCCM 2007 R3 
 

An error occured in ConfigMgr. The ConfigMgr console will continue to function, 
however you
 should save your work and restart the console. After restarting the console, 
verify that your last configurations have been applied.

 

 

 

System.ArgumentException: An error message must be supplied.

Parameter name: message

   at 
Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.SmsErrorDialog..ctor(String 
details, String message, String caption, Icon icon)

   at 
Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.SmsErrorDialog..ctor(Exception 
ex, String message, String caption)

   at 
Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.DeleteCollectionWizard.DeleteCollectionWizardForm.PostApply(BackgroundWorker
 worker, DoWorkEventArgs
 e)

   at Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.SmsWizardForm.OnFinish()

   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)

   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)

   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, 
Int32 clicks)

   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)

   at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)

   at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)

   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)

   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr 
wparam, IntPtr lparam)
 
Admin UI .log
 
[3][12/29/2014 2:00:45 PM] :Help topic not found in 'HelpTopicLinks.xml' for 
topic ID: '7e96e251-ed74-4905-87c0-77d082a5fa4d'

[3][12/29/2014 2:01:00 PM] :Help topic not found in 'HelpTopicLinks.xml' for 
topic ID: '7e96e251-ed74-4905-87c0-77d082a5fa4d'

[17][12/29/2014 2:36:45 PM] :System.Management.ManagementException\r\nGeneric 
failure \r\n   at 
System.Management.ManagementException.ThrowWithExtendedInfo(ManagementStatus 
errorCode)

   at 
System.Management.ManagementObjectCollection.ManagementObjectEnumerator.MoveNext()

   at 
Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.ManagementProvider.WqlQueryEngine.WqlQueryResultsObject.d__0.MoveNext()\r\nManagementException
 details:

instance of __ExtendedStatus

{

 Description = "[42000][156][Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL 
Server]Incorrect syntax near the keyword 'AS'.";

 Operation = "ExecQuery";

 ParameterInfo = "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM SMS_CM_RES_COLL_XXXcollID";

 ProviderName = "WinMgmt";

 StatusCode = 2147749889;

};

\r\n


 
Any idea please

RE: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

2014-12-30 Thread Roland Janus

How about renaming "computer" in explorer to the name or have a tool for
them to provide all necessary information and a lot more?

Is that the only reason you use UDA for?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
Sent: Mittwoch, 31. Dezember 2014 00:34
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

 

We have UDA set from usage data.  Our Helpdesk finds it very useful for when
a user calls in and needs some remote help.  Much easier for them to look
the user up in CM, click on Primary device, and open the remote session,
than try to walk a user through how to find their computer name.  I've also
used it as others have mentioned, for deployments.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:38 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

 

My goal is to have admin assigned UDA only, through service desk, and assign
software mainly to users to avoid managing computers (or asking users for
them)

I also want it to be installed on the device with the primary user only, not
have them followed.

 

-R

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schlichting
Sent: Dienstag, 30. Dezember 2014 19:44
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

 

Personally..  I don't really care about user affinity to any specific
device..  but then, I'm a fairly small facility, and users are either always
using the same machines,  or they are using identical kiosks, so for us, UDA
really doesn't do much.

 

-Rob.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:15 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] User/Device Affinity

 

Does anyone use UDA?  I've been toying around with the idea of more user
centric approach.  Our IT department isn't very good at keeping our
inventory system up to date.  From my job, it probably wouldn't be any
harder than managing systems.  I don't really care what computer you are
using, I care that the correct software is available to you. What's
everyone's  thoughts? 

 

--John

RE: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

2014-12-30 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife

We have UDA set from usage data.  Our Helpdesk finds it very useful for when a 
user calls in and needs some remote help.  Much easier for them to look the 
user up in CM, click on Primary device, and open the remote session, than try 
to walk a user through how to find their computer name.  I've also used it as 
others have mentioned, for deployments.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:38 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

My goal is to have admin assigned UDA only, through service desk, and assign 
software mainly to users to avoid managing computers (or asking users for them)
I also want it to be installed on the device with the primary user only, not 
have them followed.

-R

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schlichting
Sent: Dienstag, 30. Dezember 2014 19:44
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

Personally..  I don't really care about user affinity to any specific device..  
but then, I'm a fairly small facility, and users are either always using the 
same machines,  or they are using identical kiosks, so for us, UDA really 
doesn't do much.

-Rob.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:15 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] User/Device Affinity

Does anyone use UDA?  I've been toying around with the idea of more user 
centric approach.  Our IT department isn't very good at keeping our inventory 
system up to date.  From my job, it probably wouldn't be any harder than 
managing systems.  I don't really care what computer you are using, I care that 
the correct software is available to you. What's everyone's  thoughts?

--John

RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Phil Wilcock

Hmm, be great if the user could just carry on working while their machine was 
being upgraded, eh Junior? ☺

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: 30 December 2014 18:17
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Yeah, it was more of a fact that it takes so long that nobody does it, it’s 
quicker to blast the machine and put a new image down.

//A

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Hanley, Kevin
Sent: den 30 december 2014 18:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

We did an in-place upgrade of Office 2010 to Office 2013 using SCCM:

1.   Communicate/Schedule with users for groups of 50-100 per night (remove 
anyone who opts out from collection)

a.   Instruct laptop users to leave machines in office powered on

2.   Scheduled installs for 8pm (to avoid anyone who is working late and to 
ensure machines have not gone to sleep)

3.   Cancelled deployments if hadn’t kicked off by 4am (to avoid bad 
morning for end user and help desk)

4.   Cached files for Office 2013 (and also Visio and Project 2013 as 
necessary)

5.   Deployed front-end that gave user a 5 min countdown:

a.   Defer for 60 mins

b.  Defer for 10 mins

c.   Run Now

d.  Cancel and Reschedule for later

6.   If User chooses to Run Now (or no user present)

a.   Reboot

b.  Run Office 2010 uninstall

c.   Reboot

d.  Run Office 2013 install

e.  Reboot

7.   Send log file from client along the way to a network share to allow 
monitoring of status (cancelled/deferred/uninstallphase/installphase/errors)

We used hklm\system\setup\cmdline keys to run the uninstall/install similar to 
a Windows Update or Mini-Setup before the user can login (to avoid them 
relaunching Office apps and interfering with install:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/windows/en-US/b942a34d-c4a7-489c-bb01-45dd65fa9b20/setuptype-and-cmdline-at-hkeylocalmachinesystemsetup

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:02 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

precache office then install.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Hammarskjöld 
mailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com>> wrote:
So who in here has ever done an in place upgrade of Office? Rebuilt of image is 
always quicker…? Or am I wrong?

//A

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: den 29 december 2014 22:33
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Downside of beta’s, people already make up their mind.
Even if it’s just sentiment, you don’t switch people over from one way of doing 
things to another overnight.
The quickest thing our industry embraced was server virtualization and even 
that took multiple releases, and multiple years before it became the mainstream 
way of implementing servers in production.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.

From: Marable, Mike
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and load task sequences run 
from SCCM.

I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use it.  But 
in healthcare change happens very slowly.  Everything has to have a proven 
track record before we will let patient safety rely on it.

RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Christopher.Catlett

I wish my clients had ☹

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 16:50
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

A majority did move to x64 with Windows 7.  So they will have an in-place 
upgrade option.

For those trying out the in-place upgrade with Windows 10 Preview builds, be 
sure you submit feedback on any issues you encounter so that we can continue to 
improve the process.  If you just complain about it and don’t do anything, 
well, I’d call that whining ☺

Thanks,
-Michael

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:52 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

You can’t “in-place” an OS architecture switch.

Since most Win7 installs are x86, that means many orgs will have to bare-metal 
just to switch to x64 Win10.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 15:56
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.

From: Marable, Mike
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and load task sequences run 
from SCCM.

I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use it.  But 
in healthcare change happens very slowly.  Everything has to have a proven 
track record before we will let patient safety rely on it.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:34 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Or… just roll out the pieces Kim believes are missing. Intune is a full Azure 
service now which means any new feature can be rolled out anytime and can take 
advantage of Azure power.  Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment, 
btw, so take those off the list.

From: Ed Aldrich
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎30‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

I’m betting that the Redmond crowd will be dissecting THAT post for some time 
trying to figure out how to respond to it in some fashion, somewhere!!!

Wow!

Ed Aldrich | Solutions Engineer
1E | Empowering Efficient IT
Mobile: (401) 924-2293
ed.aldr...@1e.com | www.1e.com
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:40 PM
To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com'
Subject: [mssms] [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to replace 
Configuration Manager?

Hi All,

I’ve expressed these views a couple of times already to colleague mvp’s and 
people interested in hearing my opinion.
It tends to be fragmented in talks though, so I decided to put my thoughts into 
writing, and dedicate a blog post to it.
So this is a shameless plug for that blogpost:
http://bit.ly/1vn7hGu

Now, discuss ☺

Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

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RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Michael Niehaus

A majority did move to x64 with Windows 7.  So they will have an in-place 
upgrade option.

For those trying out the in-place upgrade with Windows 10 Preview builds, be 
sure you submit feedback on any issues you encounter so that we can continue to 
improve the process.  If you just complain about it and don’t do anything, 
well, I’d call that whining ☺

Thanks,
-Michael

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:52 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

You can’t “in-place” an OS architecture switch.

Since most Win7 installs are x86, that means many orgs will have to bare-metal 
just to switch to x64 Win10.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 15:56
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.

From: Marable, Mike
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and load task sequences run 
from SCCM.

I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use it.  But 
in healthcare change happens very slowly.  Everything has to have a proven 
track record before we will let patient safety rely on it.



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:34 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Or… just roll out the pieces Kim believes are missing. Intune is a full Azure 
service now which means any new feature can be rolled out anytime and can take 
advantage of Azure power.  Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment, 
btw, so take those off the list.



From: Ed Aldrich
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎30‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

I’m betting that the Redmond crowd will be dissecting THAT post for some time 
trying to figure out how to respond to it in some fashion, somewhere!!!

Wow!

Ed Aldrich | Solutions Engineer
1E | Empowering Efficient IT
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To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com'
Subject: [mssms] [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to replace 
Configuration Manager?

Hi All,

I’ve expressed these views a couple of times already to colleague mvp’s and 
people interested in hearing my opinion.
It tends to be fragmented in talks though, so I decided to put my thoughts into 
writing, and dedicate a blog post to it.
So this is a shameless plug for that blogpost:
http://bit.ly/1vn7hGu

Now, discuss ☺


Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Kim Oppalfens | Managing Consultant & MVP| OSCC
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Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Sherry Kissinger

software updates: this doesn't defer installation; but provides a notification 
countdown for reboot post software update install: the basic client agent 
setting under "Computer Restart", the "display a temporary notification to the 
user that indicates the interval before the user is logged off or the computer 
restarts (minutes)"

If you need a user interface for application deployments, where you can give 
the end user choices on deferring the install, that would be the powershell app 
deployment toolkit:  https://psappdeploytoolkit.codeplex.com/

One of the features of the app deployment toolkit is:
"The ability to allow the user to defer an installation X number of times, X 
number of days or until a deadline date is reached. "

On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:20 PM, "Lawrence, Tony" 
 wrote:

Thanks for the information, 

Curious how are you giving the option for the user to defer the install? 

A challenge I am looking into is providing the user an option to defer 
mandatory installations, and if at all possible Windows Updates when the 
deadline has been reached for an 60min-120mins. 

Regards, 
Tony 

From:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Hanley, Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:56 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?   

We did an in-place upgrade of Office 2010 to Office 2013 using SCCM: 

1.   Communicate/Schedule with users for groups of 50-100 per night (remove 
anyone who opts out from collection) 
a.   Instruct laptop users to leave machines in office powered on 
2.   Scheduled installs for 8pm (to avoid anyone who is working late and to 
ensure machines have not gone to sleep) 
3.   Cancelled deployments if hadn’t kicked off by 4am (to avoid bad 
morning for end user and help desk) 
4.   Cached files for Office 2013 (and also Visio and Project 2013 as 
necessary) 
5.   Deployed front-end that gave user a 5 min countdown: 
a.   Defer for 60 mins 
b.  Defer for 10 mins 
c.   Run Now 
d.  Cancel and Reschedule for later 
6.   If User chooses to Run Now (or no user present) 
a.   Reboot 
b.  Run Office 2010 uninstall 
c.   Reboot 
d.  Run Office 2013 install 
e.  Reboot 
7.   Send log file from client along the way to a network share to allow 
monitoring of status (cancelled/deferred/uninstallphase/installphase/errors) 

We used hklm\system\setup\cmdline keys to run the uninstall/install similar to 
a Windows Update or Mini-Setup before the user can login (to avoid them 
relaunching Office apps and interfering with install: 
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/windows/en-US/b942a34d-c4a7-489c-bb01-45dd65fa9b20/setuptype-and-cmdline-at-hkeylocalmachinesystemsetup

From:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:02 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager? 

precache office then install.  

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Hammarskjöld 
 wrote: 
So who in here has ever done an in place upgrade of Office? Rebuilt of image is 
always quicker…? Or am I wrong? 
>  
>//A 
>  
>From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
>On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
>Sent: den 29 december 2014 22:33
>To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
>Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
>Configuration Manager?   
>  
>Downside of beta’s, people already make up their mind. 
>Even if it’s just sentiment, you don’t switch people over from one way of 
>doing things to another overnight. 
>The quickest thing our industry embraced was server virtualization and even 
>that took multiple releases, and multiple years before it became the 
>mainstream way of implementing servers in production. 
>  
>From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
>On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com
>Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM
>To: SMS
>Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
>Configuration Manager?   
>  
>People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even 
>close to being finished.  
>   
>From: Marable, Mike
>Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
>To: SMS   
>   
>“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…” 
>  
>I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
>using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
>honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
>Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
>from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
>

RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Daniel Ratliff

I am not sure about Software Updates, but for programs and applications I would 
use the PowerShell Application Deployment Toolkit. It’s pretty awesome.

https://psappdeploytoolkit.codeplex.com/

Daniel Ratliff

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Lawrence, Tony
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:18 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Thanks for the information,

Curious how are you giving the option for the user to defer the install?

A challenge I am looking into is providing the user an option to defer 
mandatory installations, and if at all possible Windows Updates when the 
deadline has been reached for an 60min-120mins.

Regards,
Tony


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Hanley, Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:56 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

We did an in-place upgrade of Office 2010 to Office 2013 using SCCM:



1.   Communicate/Schedule with users for groups of 50-100 per night (remove 
anyone who opts out from collection)

a.   Instruct laptop users to leave machines in office powered on

2.   Scheduled installs for 8pm (to avoid anyone who is working late and to 
ensure machines have not gone to sleep)

3.   Cancelled deployments if hadn’t kicked off by 4am (to avoid bad 
morning for end user and help desk)

4.   Cached files for Office 2013 (and also Visio and Project 2013 as 
necessary)

5.   Deployed front-end that gave user a 5 min countdown:

a.   Defer for 60 mins

b.  Defer for 10 mins

c.   Run Now

d.  Cancel and Reschedule for later

6.   If User chooses to Run Now (or no user present)

a.   Reboot

b.  Run Office 2010 uninstall

c.   Reboot

d.  Run Office 2013 install

e.  Reboot

7.   Send log file from client along the way to a network share to allow 
monitoring of status (cancelled/deferred/uninstallphase/installphase/errors)

We used hklm\system\setup\cmdline keys to run the uninstall/install similar to 
a Windows Update or Mini-Setup before the user can login (to avoid them 
relaunching Office apps and interfering with install:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/windows/en-US/b942a34d-c4a7-489c-bb01-45dd65fa9b20/setuptype-and-cmdline-at-hkeylocalmachinesystemsetup


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:02 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

precache office then install.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Hammarskjöld 
mailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com>> wrote:
So who in here has ever done an in place upgrade of Office? Rebuilt of image is 
always quicker…? Or am I wrong?

//A

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: den 29 december 2014 22:33
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Downside of beta’s, people already make up their mind.
Even if it’s just sentiment, you don’t switch people over from one way of doing 
things to another overnight.
The quickest thing our industry embraced was server virtualization and even 
that took multiple releases, and multiple years before it became the mainstream 
way of implementing servers in production.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.

From: Marable, Mike
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
same way we w

RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Lawrence, Tony

Thanks for the information,

Curious how are you giving the option for the user to defer the install?

A challenge I am looking into is providing the user an option to defer 
mandatory installations, and if at all possible Windows Updates when the 
deadline has been reached for an 60min-120mins.

Regards,
Tony


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Hanley, Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:56 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

We did an in-place upgrade of Office 2010 to Office 2013 using SCCM:



1.   Communicate/Schedule with users for groups of 50-100 per night (remove 
anyone who opts out from collection)

a.   Instruct laptop users to leave machines in office powered on

2.   Scheduled installs for 8pm (to avoid anyone who is working late and to 
ensure machines have not gone to sleep)

3.   Cancelled deployments if hadn’t kicked off by 4am (to avoid bad 
morning for end user and help desk)

4.   Cached files for Office 2013 (and also Visio and Project 2013 as 
necessary)

5.   Deployed front-end that gave user a 5 min countdown:

a.   Defer for 60 mins

b.  Defer for 10 mins

c.   Run Now

d.  Cancel and Reschedule for later

6.   If User chooses to Run Now (or no user present)

a.   Reboot

b.  Run Office 2010 uninstall

c.   Reboot

d.  Run Office 2013 install

e.  Reboot

7.   Send log file from client along the way to a network share to allow 
monitoring of status (cancelled/deferred/uninstallphase/installphase/errors)

We used hklm\system\setup\cmdline keys to run the uninstall/install similar to 
a Windows Update or Mini-Setup before the user can login (to avoid them 
relaunching Office apps and interfering with install:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/windows/en-US/b942a34d-c4a7-489c-bb01-45dd65fa9b20/setuptype-and-cmdline-at-hkeylocalmachinesystemsetup


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:02 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

precache office then install.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Hammarskjöld 
mailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com>> wrote:
So who in here has ever done an in place upgrade of Office? Rebuilt of image is 
always quicker…? Or am I wrong?

//A

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: den 29 december 2014 22:33
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Downside of beta’s, people already make up their mind.
Even if it’s just sentiment, you don’t switch people over from one way of doing 
things to another overnight.
The quickest thing our industry embraced was server virtualization and even 
that took multiple releases, and multiple years before it became the mainstream 
way of implementing servers in production.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.

From: Marable, Mike
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and load task sequences run 
from SCCM.

I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use it.  But 
in healthcare change happens very slowly.  Everything has to have a proven 
track record before we will let patient safety rely on it.



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:34 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrM

[mssms] Deploying OOB KB3011780 via TS puts client in provisioning mode

2014-12-30 Thread Stephen Leuthold

Probably (didn't take the time to verify, although removing it from SUG 
resolved the issue) due to this known issue and may need to be added to the 
list: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2894518
I've experienced this on Windows Server 2008 R2 deployments thus far, but 
taking it out of all deployments and injecting in the reference WIM's. I read 
it's important for DC's but we decided to go ahead and make it the standard. 
Just a heads up.
-Stephen

RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Christopher.Catlett

You can’t “in-place” an OS architecture switch.

Since most Win7 installs are x86, that means many orgs will have to bare-metal 
just to switch to x64 Win10.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 15:56
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.

From: Marable, Mike
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and load task sequences run 
from SCCM.

I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use it.  But 
in healthcare change happens very slowly.  Everything has to have a proven 
track record before we will let patient safety rely on it.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:34 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Or… just roll out the pieces Kim believes are missing. Intune is a full Azure 
service now which means any new feature can be rolled out anytime and can take 
advantage of Azure power.  Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment, 
btw, so take those off the list.

From: Ed Aldrich
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎30‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

I’m betting that the Redmond crowd will be dissecting THAT post for some time 
trying to figure out how to respond to it in some fashion, somewhere!!!

Wow!

Ed Aldrich | Solutions Engineer
1E | Empowering Efficient IT
Mobile: (401) 924-2293
ed.aldr...@1e.com | www.1e.com
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(2003-2014)
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From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:40 PM
To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com'
Subject: [mssms] [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to replace 
Configuration Manager?

Hi All,

I’ve expressed these views a couple of times already to colleague mvp’s and 
people interested in hearing my opinion.
It tends to be fragmented in talks though, so I decided to put my thoughts into 
writing, and dedicate a blog post to it.
So this is a shameless plug for that blogpost:
http://bit.ly/1vn7hGu

Now, discuss ☺

Met vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,

Kim Oppalfens | Managing Consultant & MVP| OSCC
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RE: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

2014-12-30 Thread Roland Janus

My goal is to have admin assigned UDA only, through service desk, and assign
software mainly to users to avoid managing computers (or asking users for
them)

I also want it to be installed on the device with the primary user only, not
have them followed.

 

-R

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Schlichting
Sent: Dienstag, 30. Dezember 2014 19:44
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

 

Personally..  I don't really care about user affinity to any specific
device..  but then, I'm a fairly small facility, and users are either always
using the same machines,  or they are using identical kiosks, so for us, UDA
really doesn't do much.

 

-Rob.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:15 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] User/Device Affinity

 

Does anyone use UDA?  I've been toying around with the idea of more user
centric approach.  Our IT department isn't very good at keeping our
inventory system up to date.  From my job, it probably wouldn't be any
harder than managing systems.  I don't really care what computer you are
using, I care that the correct software is available to you. What's
everyone's  thoughts? 

 

--John

[mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

2014-12-30 Thread Kent, Mark

Don't use it.  Seems like a lot of overhead.

Mark Kent (MCP)
Sr. Desktop Systems Engineer
Computing & Technology Services - SUNY Buffalo State

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:15 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] User/Device Affinity

Does anyone use UDA?  I've been toying around with the idea of more user 
centric approach.  Our IT department isn't very good at keeping our inventory 
system up to date.  From my job, it probably wouldn't be any harder than 
managing systems.  I don't really care what computer you are using, I care that 
the correct software is available to you. What's everyone's  thoughts?

--John

Re: [mssms] User/Device Affinity

2014-12-30 Thread Todd Hemsell

I use it for software that costs money.
I take the ownership info from our asset database and sync it with SCCM.
If someone tries to install software on a machine not assigned to them it
fails to install.
Forces the techs to keep the asset DB up to date.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:15 PM, John Aubrey 
wrote:

>  Does anyone use UDA?  I’ve been toying around with the idea of more user
> centric approach.  Our IT department isn’t very good at keeping our
> inventory system up to date.  From my job, it probably wouldn’t be any
> harder than managing systems.  I don’t really care what computer you are
> using, I care that the correct software is available to you. What’s
> everyone’s  thoughts?
>
>
>
> --John
>
>

Re: [mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

2014-12-30 Thread Sean Pomeroy

We use it for all application deployments pretty successfully.
For licensed software, we use collections tied to AD group membership for
the automatic deployments.
For freeware or volume license software, we advertise it to all users.
The original plan was to have two deployments for each piece of software.
Deployment 1 is MSI based and only installs on a users primary devices.
Deployment 2 is App-V and installs on a users non-primary device.

We set UDA automatically via client settings as well as during OSD.
We did our initial import based on some data from our PGP Universal server
to set UDA quickly.
As a fall back we also allow users to define their own affinity via the
application catalog.

On Tue Dec 30 2014 at 1:45:07 PM Robert Schlichting <
robe...@jchealthcare.com> wrote:

>  Personally..  I don’t really care about user affinity to any specific
> device..  but then, I’m a fairly small facility, and users are either
> always using the same machines,  or they are using identical kiosks, so for
> us, UDA really doesn’t do much.
>
>
>
> -Rob.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *John Aubrey
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:15 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* [mssms] User/Device Affinity
>
>
>
> Does anyone use UDA?  I’ve been toying around with the idea of more user
> centric approach.  Our IT department isn’t very good at keeping our
> inventory system up to date.  From my job, it probably wouldn’t be any
> harder than managing systems.  I don’t really care what computer you are
> using, I care that the correct software is available to you. What’s
> everyone’s  thoughts?
>
>
>
> --John
>
>
>

[mssms] RE: User/Device Affinity

2014-12-30 Thread Robert Schlichting

Personally..  I don't really care about user affinity to any specific device..  
but then, I'm a fairly small facility, and users are either always using the 
same machines,  or they are using identical kiosks, so for us, UDA really 
doesn't do much.

-Rob.


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:15 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] User/Device Affinity

Does anyone use UDA?  I've been toying around with the idea of more user 
centric approach.  Our IT department isn't very good at keeping our inventory 
system up to date.  From my job, it probably wouldn't be any harder than 
managing systems.  I don't really care what computer you are using, I care that 
the correct software is available to you. What's everyone's  thoughts?

--John

RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Andreas Hammarskjöld

Yeah, it was more of a fact that it takes so long that nobody does it, it’s 
quicker to blast the machine and put a new image down.

//A

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Hanley, Kevin
Sent: den 30 december 2014 18:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

We did an in-place upgrade of Office 2010 to Office 2013 using SCCM:

1.   Communicate/Schedule with users for groups of 50-100 per night (remove 
anyone who opts out from collection)

a.   Instruct laptop users to leave machines in office powered on

2.   Scheduled installs for 8pm (to avoid anyone who is working late and to 
ensure machines have not gone to sleep)

3.   Cancelled deployments if hadn’t kicked off by 4am (to avoid bad 
morning for end user and help desk)

4.   Cached files for Office 2013 (and also Visio and Project 2013 as 
necessary)

5.   Deployed front-end that gave user a 5 min countdown:

a.   Defer for 60 mins

b.  Defer for 10 mins

c.   Run Now

d.  Cancel and Reschedule for later

6.   If User chooses to Run Now (or no user present)

a.   Reboot

b.  Run Office 2010 uninstall

c.   Reboot

d.  Run Office 2013 install

e.  Reboot

7.   Send log file from client along the way to a network share to allow 
monitoring of status (cancelled/deferred/uninstallphase/installphase/errors)

We used hklm\system\setup\cmdline keys to run the uninstall/install similar to 
a Windows Update or Mini-Setup before the user can login (to avoid them 
relaunching Office apps and interfering with install:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/windows/en-US/b942a34d-c4a7-489c-bb01-45dd65fa9b20/setuptype-and-cmdline-at-hkeylocalmachinesystemsetup

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:02 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

precache office then install.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Hammarskjöld 
mailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com>> wrote:
So who in here has ever done an in place upgrade of Office? Rebuilt of image is 
always quicker…? Or am I wrong?

//A

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: den 29 december 2014 22:33
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Downside of beta’s, people already make up their mind.
Even if it’s just sentiment, you don’t switch people over from one way of doing 
things to another overnight.
The quickest thing our industry embraced was server virtualization and even 
that took multiple releases, and multiple years before it became the mainstream 
way of implementing servers in production.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.

From: Marable, Mike
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and load task sequences run 
from SCCM.

I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use it.  But 
in healthcare change happens very slowly.  Everything has to have a proven 
track record before we will let patient safety rely on it.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:34 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Or… just roll out the pieces Kim believes are missing. Intune is a full Azure 
service now which means any new featur

[mssms] User/Device Affinity

2014-12-30 Thread John Aubrey

Does anyone use UDA?  I've been toying around with the idea of more user 
centric approach.  Our IT department isn't very good at keeping our inventory 
system up to date.  From my job, it probably wouldn't be any harder than 
managing systems.  I don't really care what computer you are using, I care that 
the correct software is available to you. What's everyone's  thoughts?

--John

RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Hanley, Kevin

We did an in-place upgrade of Office 2010 to Office 2013 using SCCM:



1.   Communicate/Schedule with users for groups of 50-100 per night (remove 
anyone who opts out from collection)

a.   Instruct laptop users to leave machines in office powered on

2.   Scheduled installs for 8pm (to avoid anyone who is working late and to 
ensure machines have not gone to sleep)

3.   Cancelled deployments if hadn’t kicked off by 4am (to avoid bad 
morning for end user and help desk)

4.   Cached files for Office 2013 (and also Visio and Project 2013 as 
necessary)

5.   Deployed front-end that gave user a 5 min countdown:

a.   Defer for 60 mins

b.  Defer for 10 mins

c.   Run Now

d.  Cancel and Reschedule for later

6.   If User chooses to Run Now (or no user present)

a.   Reboot

b.  Run Office 2010 uninstall

c.   Reboot

d.  Run Office 2013 install

e.  Reboot

7.   Send log file from client along the way to a network share to allow 
monitoring of status (cancelled/deferred/uninstallphase/installphase/errors)

We used hklm\system\setup\cmdline keys to run the uninstall/install similar to 
a Windows Update or Mini-Setup before the user can login (to avoid them 
relaunching Office apps and interfering with install:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/forums/windows/en-US/b942a34d-c4a7-489c-bb01-45dd65fa9b20/setuptype-and-cmdline-at-hkeylocalmachinesystemsetup


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 12:02 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

precache office then install.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Hammarskjöld 
mailto:jun...@2pintsoftware.com>> wrote:
So who in here has ever done an in place upgrade of Office? Rebuilt of image is 
always quicker…? Or am I wrong?

//A

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Kim Oppalfens
Sent: den 29 december 2014 22:33
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Downside of beta’s, people already make up their mind.
Even if it’s just sentiment, you don’t switch people over from one way of doing 
things to another overnight.
The quickest thing our industry embraced was server virtualization and even 
that took multiple releases, and multiple years before it became the mainstream 
way of implementing servers in production.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even close 
to being finished.

From: Marable, Mike
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

“Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”

I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck with 
using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real world.  To be 
honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior versions of 
Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time comes to migrate 
from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re going to do it the 
same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and load task sequences run 
from SCCM.

I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use it.  But 
in healthcare change happens very slowly.  Everything has to have a proven 
track record before we will let patient safety rely on it.



From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of 
rodtr...@myitforum.com
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:34 PM
To: SMS
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place 
Configuration Manager?

Or… just roll out the pieces Kim believes are missing. Intune is a full Azure 
service now which means any new feature can be rolled out anytime and can take 
advantage of Azure power.  Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment, 
btw, so take those off the list.



From: Ed Aldrich
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎30‎ ‎PM
To: SMS

I’m betting that the Redmond crowd will be dissecting THAT post for some time 
trying to figure out how to respond to it in some fashion, somewhere!!!

Wow!

Ed Aldrich | Solutions Enginee

Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to re place Configuration Manager?

2014-12-30 Thread Todd Hemsell

precache office then install.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Andreas Hammarskjöld <
jun...@2pintsoftware.com> wrote:

>  So who in here has ever done an in place upgrade of Office? Rebuilt of
> image is always quicker…? Or am I wrong?
>
>
>
> //A
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Kim Oppalfens
> *Sent:* den 29 december 2014 22:33
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to
> re place Configuration Manager?
>
>
>
> Downside of beta’s, people already make up their mind.
>
> Even if it’s just sentiment, you don’t switch people over from one way of
> doing things to another overnight.
>
> The quickest thing our industry embraced was server virtualization and
> even that took multiple releases, and multiple years before it became the
> mainstream way of implementing servers in production.
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *rodtr...@myitforum.com
> *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 9:56 PM
> *To:* SMS
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to
> re place Configuration Manager?
>
>
>
> People tend to forget that Windows 10 is actually still beta and not even
> close to being finished.
>
>
>
> *From:* Marable, Mike 
> *Sent:* ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎47‎ ‎PM
> *To:* SMS 
>
>
>
> *“**Windows 10 will change OS and software deployment…”*
>
>
>
> I’m sorry but I’d have to beg to differ.  So far I have had little luck
> with using the in-place upgrade that Microsoft is pushing in the real
> world.  To be honest I’m finding it just as problematic as it was in prior
> versions of Windows.  We may be “old school” on this but when the time
> comes to migrate from Windows 7 to Windows 10, as it stands right now we’re
> going to do it the same way we went from XP to Windows 7; using wipe and
> load task sequences run from SCCM.
>
>
>
> I would love for all of this to just work and for us to be able to use
> it.  But in healthcare change happens very slowly.  Everything has to have
> a proven track record before we will let patient safety rely on it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *rodtr...@myitforum.com
> *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 3:34 PM
> *To:* SMS
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] RE: [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to
> re place Configuration Manager?
>
>
>
> Or… just roll out the pieces Kim believes are missing. Intune is a full
> Azure service now which means any new feature can be rolled out anytime and
> can take advantage of Azure power.  Windows 10 will change OS and software
> deployment, btw, so take those off the list.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ed Aldrich 
> *Sent:* ‎Monday‎, ‎December‎ ‎29‎, ‎2014 ‎3‎:‎30‎ ‎PM
> *To:* SMS 
>
>
>
> I’m betting that the Redmond crowd will be dissecting THAT post for some
> time trying to figure out how to respond to it in some fashion, somewhere!!!
>
>
>
> Wow!
>
>
>
> *Ed Aldrich* | Solutions Engineer
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 2:40 PM
> *To:* 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com'
> *Subject:* [mssms] [ConfigMgrMVPs] Blogpost: Is Intune going to replace
> Configuration Manager?
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I’ve expressed these views a couple of times already to colleague mvp’s
> and people interested in hearing my opinion.
>
> It tends to be fragmented in talks though, so I decided to put my thoughts
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RE: [mssms] RBAC Permissions

2014-12-30 Thread sccmfun

I took away the audit and was still able to see the security tab on the 
collection, so I don’t think it has to do with that.

 

In regards to the enforce security when logged on as a full admin even if you 
bring up the security tab on the collection you’re not able to modify/change 
security.  I know on SCCM 2007 you could do instance rights, but that doesn’t 
even exist anymore in SCCM2012 anymore that I can tell.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Sean Pomeroy
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 10:30 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RBAC Permissions

 

One would assume Audit means they can view the permissions where as enforce 
would mean can modify.
I am not in a position to test currently, but if you change to enforce can a 
user in that role modify permissions on collections?

On Tue Dec 30 2014 at 9:26:28 AM sccmfun  wrote:

Nice, this is cool to have. 

 

Doesn’t answer my original question though on what the 2 rights do, but this is 
helpful.

 

Thanks!

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Wilson, Patrick (Pat)
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:05 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RBAC Permissions

 

Maybe this will help??

 

Pat Wilson

 

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From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of sccmfun
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 3:25 PM
To: mssms@lists.myITforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RBAC Permissions

 

So setting up RBAC and tweaking all the permissions.  When looking at 
collections there are 2 rights, that I can’t seem to figure out.

 

1)  Audit security

2)  Enforce security

 

I’ve turned them off/on to see if I gain or loss something in the console, but 
don’t seem to.  Anyone know what this does?  Would love to be able to turn it 
off/on and see some change in the console.

 

Is there some article that lists detailed info on all the permissions?  My 
guess is no, since I couldn’t find anything.

 

Thanks

Re: [mssms] RBAC Permissions

2014-12-30 Thread Sean Pomeroy

One would assume Audit means they can view the permissions where as enforce
would mean can modify.
I am not in a position to test currently, but if you change to enforce can
a user in that role modify permissions on collections?

On Tue Dec 30 2014 at 9:26:28 AM sccmfun  wrote:

> Nice, this is cool to have.
>
>
>
> Doesn’t answer my original question though on what the 2 rights do, but
> this is helpful.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Wilson, Patrick (Pat)
> *Sent:* Monday, December 29, 2014 6:05 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] RBAC Permissions
>
>
>
> Maybe this will help??
>
>
>
> *Pat Wilson*
>
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> *To:* mssms@lists.myITforum.com
> *Subject:* [mssms] RBAC Permissions
>
>
>
> So setting up RBAC and tweaking all the permissions.  When looking at
> collections there are 2 rights, that I can’t seem to figure out.
>
>
>
> 1)  Audit security
>
> 2)  Enforce security
>
>
>
> I’ve turned them off/on to see if I gain or loss something in the console,
> but don’t seem to.  Anyone know what this does?  Would love to be able to
> turn it off/on and see some change in the console.
>
>
>
> Is there some article that lists detailed info on all the permissions?  My
> guess is no, since I couldn’t find anything.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>

RE: [mssms] RBAC Permissions

2014-12-30 Thread sccmfun

Nice, this is cool to have. 

 

Doesn't answer my original question though on what the 2 rights do, but this
is helpful.

 

Thanks!

 

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Maybe this will help??

 

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Subject: [mssms] RBAC Permissions

 

So setting up RBAC and tweaking all the permissions.  When looking at
collections there are 2 rights, that I can't seem to figure out.

 

1)  Audit security

2)  Enforce security

 

I've turned them off/on to see if I gain or loss something in the console,
but don't seem to.  Anyone know what this does?  Would love to be able to
turn it off/on and see some change in the console.

 

Is there some article that lists detailed info on all the permissions?  My
guess is no, since I couldn't find anything.

 

Thanks

Re: [mssms] SCCM Console getteing Creashed while deleting the SCCM 2007 R3 collections

2014-12-30 Thread Ranvir singh

Hi Eswar,

Collection query (WQL) is the correct query.. I given a try with multiple
collection sytax with WQL query, some are empty collections... not
working... If i want to delete im deleting from the database
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Eswar Koneti 
wrote:

>  Why does your wql(collection query) has count? It willl not give you the
> count of pcs in collection instead reports.
> Correct the collection with right syntax?
> Did you verify the collection syntax?
>
> Regards,
> Eswar Koneti
> www.eskonr.com
> Sent from Mobile Device, excuse any typo's as a result.
>
> --- Original Message ---
>
> From: "Ranvir singh" 
> Sent: December 29, 2014 10:19 PM
> To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> Subject: [mssms] SCCM Console getteing Creashed while deleting the SCCM
> 2007 R3 collections
>
>  Hi Team,
>
> Im getting the below error while deleting the collection from SCCM 2007 R3
>
>
> *An error occured in ConfigMgr. The ConfigMgr console will continue to
> function, however you should save your work and restart the console. After
> restarting the console, verify that your last configurations have been
> applied.*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> System.ArgumentException: An error message must be supplied.
>
> Parameter name: message
>
>at
> Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.SmsErrorDialog..ctor(String
> details, String message, String caption, Icon icon)
>
>at
> Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.SmsErrorDialog..ctor(Exception
> ex, String message, String caption)
>
>at
> Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.DeleteCollectionWizard.DeleteCollectionWizardForm.PostApply(BackgroundWorker
> worker, DoWorkEventArgs e)
>
>at
> Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.AdminConsole.SmsWizardForm.OnFinish()
>
>at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
>
>at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
>
>at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons
> button, Int32 clicks)
>
>at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
>
>at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
>
>at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
>
>at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
>
>at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg,
> IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
>
>
>
> Admin UI .log
>
>
>
> [
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *3][12/29/2014 2:00:45 PM] :Help topic not found in 'HelpTopicLinks.xml'
> for topic ID: '7e96e251-ed74-4905-87c0-77d082a5fa4d' [3][12/29/2014 2:01:00
> PM] :Help topic not found in 'HelpTopicLinks.xml' for topic ID:
> '7e96e251-ed74-4905-87c0-77d082a5fa4d' [17][12/29/2014 2:36:45 PM]
> :System.Management.ManagementException\r\nGeneric failure \r\n   at
> System.Management.ManagementException.ThrowWithExtendedInfo(ManagementStatus
> errorCode)at
> System.Management.ManagementObjectCollection.ManagementObjectEnumerator.MoveNext()
>at
> Microsoft.ConfigurationManagement.ManagementProvider.WqlQueryEngine.WqlQueryResultsObject.d__0.MoveNext()\r\nManagementException
> details: instance of __ExtendedStatus {  Description =
> "[42000][156][Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Incorrect
> syntax near the keyword 'AS'.";  Operation = "ExecQuery";  ParameterInfo =
> "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM SMS_CM_RES_COLL_XXXcollID";  ProviderName =
> "WinMgmt";  StatusCode = 2147749889 <2147749889>; }; \r\n*
>
>
>
> Any idea please
>
>
>

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