RE: [mssms] Error 0xc000000e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

[Roland Janus]

That might be it.

I never bothered updating the ADK, but now I do have a real reason.

 

Thanks!

 

 

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On Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Dienstag, 27. Dezember 2016 14:50
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Error 0xc00e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

 

What version of the ADK? 1511? If so, you need the DISM fix. 

 

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/enterprisemobility/2015/11/20/issue-with
-the-windows-adk-for-windows-10-version-1511/ 

 

Daniel Ratliff 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 10:01 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Error 0xc00e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

 

I have that.

It works with bare metal, just refresh has an issue.

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of ODONNELL Aaron M
Sent: Samstag, 24. Dezember 2016 00:36
To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Error 0xc00e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

 

Some Dell BIOSes have a "enable legacy option ROMs" option that must be
enabled along with UEFI to work properly with Win7. There might be a HP BIOS
equivalent setting like that which isn't getting set.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Aaron O'Donnell

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 3:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Error 0xc00e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

 

Bump, anyone?

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016 13:30
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Error 0xc00e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

 

I haven' dealt with UEFI much yet, so I guess I'm just overseeing something.

 

I'm on CM1606, have a standard MDT (2013) -task sequence (to keep things
simple during testing) and I can deploy a baremetal Win 7, on HP hardware,
using UEFI and a boot stick.

 

But once I do a refresh, when the TS reboots into the x64 PE assigned to the
TS, I get a Windows Boot Manager error "0xc00e" "an unexpected error has
occurred".

 

It does work fine with Bios (legacy) mode, just UEFI is giving me trouble.

 

What am I missing?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: [mssms] Error 0xc000000e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

[Roland Janus]

I have that.

It works with bare metal, just refresh has an issue.

 

 

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On Behalf Of ODONNELL Aaron M
Sent: Samstag, 24. Dezember 2016 00:36
To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com' 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Error 0xc00e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

 

Some Dell BIOSes have a "enable legacy option ROMs" option that must be
enabled along with UEFI to work properly with Win7. There might be a HP BIOS
equivalent setting like that which isn't getting set.

 

 

Thanks,

 

Aaron O'Donnell

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 3:04 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Error 0xc00e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

 

Bump, anyone?

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016 13:30
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Error 0xc00e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

 

I haven' dealt with UEFI much yet, so I guess I'm just overseeing something.

 

I'm on CM1606, have a standard MDT (2013) -task sequence (to keep things
simple during testing) and I can deploy a baremetal Win 7, on HP hardware,
using UEFI and a boot stick.

 

But once I do a refresh, when the TS reboots into the x64 PE assigned to the
TS, I get a Windows Boot Manager error "0xc00e" "an unexpected error has
occurred".

 

It does work fine with Bios (legacy) mode, just UEFI is giving me trouble.

 

What am I missing?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] Error 0xc000000e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

[Roland Janus]

Bump, anyone?

 

 

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On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Mittwoch, 21. Dezember 2016 13:30
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Error 0xc00e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

 

I haven' dealt with UEFI much yet, so I guess I'm just overseeing something.

 

I'm on CM1606, have a standard MDT (2013) -task sequence (to keep things
simple during testing) and I can deploy a baremetal Win 7, on HP hardware,
using UEFI and a boot stick.

 

But once I do a refresh, when the TS reboots into the x64 PE assigned to the
TS, I get a Windows Boot Manager error "0xc00e" "an unexpected error has
occurred".

 

It does work fine with Bios (legacy) mode, just UEFI is giving me trouble.

 

What am I missing?

 

-Roland

 

 

RE: [mssms] RE: OT: Password changes without VPN

[Roland Janus]

Not just for that, no VPN, no manual logon, managed systems as soon as they 
have internet, patching.

DA is great and rather easy to implement and offers more than IBCM…

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2016 15:46
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: OT: Password changes without VPN

 

It just seems silly to have to open up with DA for NOTHING but password 
changes. Seems like MS would somehow handle this with a role in Azure. I’m 
going to dig in to Psync that Daniel mentioned. 

 

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:22 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: OT: Password changes without VPN

 

[External Email] 

We do too.

Pity MS is doing such a bad job on marketing that properly.

 

-R

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Linkey, Mike
Sent: Freitag, 16. Dezember 2016 17:18
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] RE: OT: Password changes without VPN

 

We use Direct Access with our Laptops and they are able to change the passwords 
when remote.  Works very well.

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:10 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [External] [mssms] OT: Password changes without VPN

 

Currently we are almost 100% desktops in my environment. We want to start 
transitioning over to laptops next year. We do not have VPN, it was eliminated 
a while back. One of my concerns about laptops without VPN is password 
expiration/changes. How do others handle this? I am aware they can change their 
password in OWA or using self-services password reset through AAD but how does 
the laptop “know” to accept the new password? Or does the user continue to 
login to the laptop with the expired password then have to type the new 
password when they open apps such as outlook? The latter would be a really poor 
user experience. 

 

 

Thanks,

John

 

 

 

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[mssms] Error 0xc000000e on Win 7 UEFI refresh

[Roland Janus]

I haven' dealt with UEFI much yet, so I guess I'm just overseeing something.

 

I'm on CM1606, have a standard MDT (2013) -task sequence (to keep things
simple during testing) and I can deploy a baremetal Win 7, on HP hardware,
using UEFI and a boot stick.

 

But once I do a refresh, when the TS reboots into the x64 PE assigned to the
TS, I get a Windows Boot Manager error "0xc00e" "an unexpected error has
occurred".

 

It does work fine with Bios (legacy) mode, just UEFI is giving me trouble.

 

What am I missing?

 

-Roland

 

RE: [mssms] OT: Password changes without VPN

[Roland Janus]

Even with Win7

 

 

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Sent: Freitag, 16. Dezember 2016 16:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] OT: Password changes without VPN

 

Or if you've got Windows 10 clients, you could investigate DirectAccess?

 

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Subject: Re: [mssms] OT: Password changes without VPN

 

It's the latter John and yes, it's a poor experience.

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On 16 Dec 2016, at 13:16, Marcum, John mailto:jmar...@bradley.com> > wrote:

Currently we are almost 100% desktops in my environment. We want to start
transitioning over to laptops next year. We do not have VPN, it was
eliminated a while back. One of my concerns about laptops without VPN is
password expiration/changes. How do others handle this? I am aware they can
change their password in OWA or using self-services password reset through
AAD but how does the laptop "know" to accept the new password? Or does the
user continue to login to the laptop with the expired password then have to
type the new password when they open apps such as outlook? The latter would
be a really poor user experience. 

 

 

Thanks,

John

 

 

 


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RE: [mssms] RE: OT: Password changes without VPN

[Roland Janus]

We do too.

Pity MS is doing such a bad job on marketing that properly.

 

-R

 

 

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On Behalf Of Linkey, Mike
Sent: Freitag, 16. Dezember 2016 17:18
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: OT: Password changes without VPN

 

We use Direct Access with our Laptops and they are able to change the
passwords when remote.  Works very well.

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:10 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [External] [mssms] OT: Password changes without VPN

 

Currently we are almost 100% desktops in my environment. We want to start
transitioning over to laptops next year. We do not have VPN, it was
eliminated a while back. One of my concerns about laptops without VPN is
password expiration/changes. How do others handle this? I am aware they can
change their password in OWA or using self-services password reset through
AAD but how does the laptop "know" to accept the new password? Or does the
user continue to login to the laptop with the expired password then have to
type the new password when they open apps such as outlook? The latter would
be a really poor user experience. 

 

 

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John

 

 

 

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AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

I’m here…

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Freitag, 30. September 2016 04:25
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Ready as ever! :)

 

Will call you out.

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 29 september 2016 18:24
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Andreas,

 

I’m going to attend your session, ready to hand out the branchcache tool? :)

 

 

 

Von:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 19:33
An:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Pretty sure the content of session is not going to be an “approved message” 
from marketing. :) There are plenty of 400 level sessions here as well, but as 
there are so much of it looks like % wise small.

 

As per Windows is concerned, Windows 10 is the best OS ever come out of 
Redmond. Or do you want Windows XP back? So I could argute that going to MMS 
year and year to listen to what might ship at some time in the future was 
getting pretty boring as well…

 

So pretty impressed by Ignite, and I wasn’t a fanboy before. But to compare 
against ITDevCon or MMSMOA is impossible, very different events.

 

//A

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: den 29 september 2016 13:00
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"

No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.

MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event. 

Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it. 

This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line. 

You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)

They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.

Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will. 

Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak. 

Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"

 

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

To sum that up:

 

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.

It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

 

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.

While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys :), may take even longer?

 

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?

That’s just sad.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto: <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit

 

😉

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife < 
<mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> wrote:

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myi

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

ployees have to take off less time from work to go to the event. 

Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it. 

This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line. 

You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)

They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.

Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will. 

Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak. 

Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"

 

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

To sum that up:

 

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.

It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

 

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.

While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys :), may take even longer?

 

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?

That’s just sad.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit

 

😉

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> > wrote:

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

 

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box. 

 

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler? 

 

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things. 

 

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

 

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused. 

 

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this. 

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?

The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?

I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.

But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless

Mayb

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

Andreas,

 

I’m going to attend your session, ready to hand out the branchcache tool? :)

 

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 19:33
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Pretty sure the content of session is not going to be an “approved message” 
from marketing. :) There are plenty of 400 level sessions here as well, but as 
there are so much of it looks like % wise small.

 

As per Windows is concerned, Windows 10 is the best OS ever come out of 
Redmond. Or do you want Windows XP back? So I could argute that going to MMS 
year and year to listen to what might ship at some time in the future was 
getting pretty boring as well…

 

So pretty impressed by Ignite, and I wasn’t a fanboy before. But to compare 
against ITDevCon or MMSMOA is impossible, very different events.

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: den 29 september 2016 13:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"

No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.

MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event. 

Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it. 

This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line. 

You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)

They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.

Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will. 

Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak. 

Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"

 

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

To sum that up:

 

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.

It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

 

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.

While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys :), may take even longer?

 

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?

That’s just sad.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit

 

😉

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> > wrote:

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

 

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box. 

 

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

Partially, or actually mostly I agree with, like the keynote: ‘We’re good, 
cloud, we’re great, cloud”…

 

Some speakers make fun of it and just say “cloud” so it’s said.

 

BTW: I was at two sessions of Paula  (that is real geek content, amazing and 
she’s just charming and had the audience for sure), she asked “how was lunch?” 
….

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Todd Hemsell
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 19:00
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

"So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?"

No only in food, but also in quality of content and the depth of the content. 
The only people big events like that work out for are vendors and Microsoft.

MS employees have to take off less time from work to go to the event. 

Marketing can plan everything for a single event. They prep the slide decks in 
advance and then decide you will read them. It is just marketing content and 
you are basically a fool if you paid for it. 

This is all about being good for Microsoft, not the customer. They stopped 
caring about the customer a long time ago. Now it is all about recurring 
payments and their bottom line. 

You see this with support, big fixes (or lack thereof), crappy events, missing 
kb articles, and a push towards the cloud and recurring payments. Even the way 
they fix their broken products is now being driven by what is best for them 
(monolithic updates)

They got rid of the solution accelerator team because they no longer care about 
adding value to their products, they just care about their bottom line and 
trying to be apple.

Their enterprise operating system even pushes down advertising against your 
will. 

Just blows my mind anyone would give them money to listen to that marketing 
speak. 

Obviously the same people that would pay for "Cloud"

 

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

To sum that up:

 

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.

It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

 

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.

While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys :), may take even longer?

 

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?

That’s just sad.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] Im Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit

 

😉

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> > wrote:

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

 

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box. 

 

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler? 

 

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things. 

 

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

 

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused. 

 

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN 

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

To sum that up:

 

MS doesn’t safe any money, which is sad by itself, lunchboxes costing the same 
as “real” food.

It’s cold and while it may be fresh, it’s mostly tasteless and just horrible 
IMO.

 

And all that because waiting in line for 5 minutes is to long? I never had to 
wait longer and certainly not 20-30 minutes.

While waiting at the restroom, at least for guys :), may take even longer?

 

So, the bigger the event, the worse the quality?

That’s just sad.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Adam Juelich
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 16:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

All of this talk about 'severed' food is freaking me out a bit

 

😉

 

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife 
mailto:joseph.hea...@wildlife.ca.gov> > wrote:

Mmm, peach cobbler.  I’d be happy to take yours off your hands, Garth, since 
you’re watching your weight. ;)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Garth Jones
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:39 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m just providing the details that I was told as to why we have lunch boxes vs 
hot food. Like you I prefer hot food but it does mean that you have to wait in 
line to be severed.

 

This question was not who wanted lunch boxes, the issue was how long it took to 
be severed. Even thought I go to the vendor food hall, it always seen to take 5 
minutes before you could make it to the food table before getting severed. Then 
it would take a bit longer to slowly make you way to the other end. If anything 
ran out you would wait until they replaced it. This year there has been no 
waiting to grab a lunch box. 

 

Again my understanding is that the cost is exactly the same for MS for the 
lunch boxes, and the quality is much higher than your normal lunch boxed. I 
would agree that these lunch boxes are a lot high quality than normal lunch 
boxes. When do you see cut fresh fruit in a lunch box and a peach cobbler? 

 

Don’t get me wrong, I want a hot lunch. All I’m doing is giving another 
prospective on things. 

 

Food waste will happen with both lunch boxes and catered food, I agree that it 
will be less with catered. But on the plus side, I’m trying to watch my weight, 
so a box lunch, will help keep me in check. :)

 

BTW, I was also told that the boxes are recycled however because they are a 
hard plastic, I wouldn’t be surprised if they are washed and reused. 

 

BBTW, I was talking @RicksterCDN about this on Sunday night this is the only 
reason why I know any of this. He is a good guy and if you can catch him or 
Joey, I’m sure that they will give you more details about this. 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 28, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper cooked 
food?

The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?

I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.

But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get 
something better regardless

Maybe I’m just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that piece 
of tasteless foam used.

And then that dry chicken. B.

 

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back that 
they got form last ignite. People didn’t want to wait for 20-30 minutes to get 
food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can talk to 
friends, office, family during the breaks. 

 

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned 
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can 
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don’t have to wait in line 
for you food nearly as long…

 

 

Right, wrong… I’m just says that is why we have lunch boxes.. 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.m

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

How many actually asked for the lunch boxes instead of warm and proper
cooked food?

The majority prefers  that over a cooked meal?

I have a hard time believing that and I never waited that long.

But it certainly is cheaper for MS, but I do think we pay enough to get
something better regardless

Maybe I'm just spoiled with real bread (coming from Europe) and not that
piece of tasteless foam used.

And then that dry chicken. B.

 

Not even talking about how many half used boxes go into the garbage.

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Garth Jones
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. September 2016 17:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

So I talked to the team about this and the Lunch boxes was the feed back
that they got form last ignite. People didn't want to wait for 20-30 minutes
to get food. They wanted to get in and out in 5 minutes so that they can
talk to friends, office, family during the breaks. 

 

So what they did was if they spent $30 on hot food per person, they turned
around bought lunch that cost $30/each, this way you get better food and can
get in and out within a few minutes. Therefore you don't have to wait in
line for you food nearly as long.

 

 

Right, wrong. I'm just says that is why we have lunch boxes.. 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I'm kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the
horrible food we get at Ignite.

 

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?

I've good better food on any airplane and it's warm.

 

That is just not acceptable.

 

-R

 

 

 

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

Way, way too far away…

Flight cost.

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Johns, Damon (DoJ)
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 22:15
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Obviously a much smaller event but the food at Ignite Australia on the Gold 
Coast has always been off the charts :)

 

Make the trip down under next February everyone!

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2016 5:44 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Hm, there is that thing, hm, yeah, right airplanes :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Marable, Mike
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 20:49
An: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

No, it’s already a 12+ hour drive for me!

Move it to Vegas and I’m hosed!

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:35 PM
To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Ah man! No more Vegas??? We need to get MMS moved to vegas!

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com 
<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 1:31 PM
To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

[External Email] 

If you just want/need System Center topics, MMS still exists:  
https://mmsmoa.com/ 

 

If you work with more than just System Center, check out ITDC. ITDC 2016 is in 
2 weeks, but 2017 will be moving to San Francisco.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:23 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Yeah, 23000, well, another reason why I probably don’t want to attend Ignite 
anymore, it just got to big.

I miss MMS.

 

So, I guess I go outside to get something decent.

 

-Roland

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von rodtr...@myitforum.com 
<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 19:14
An: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

There were only around 10k in Houston.

 

This is over twice that number. Plus, there’s a LOT of eateries in the downtown 
area. You don’t have to eat conference food like you did being stuck at the 
event center in Chicago last year. MSFT counts on offloading meals every year, 
which is why they spend a lot of cycles promoting local restaurants.

 

Consider, too, that Microsoft doesn’t intend to make money off the conference. 
This is free marketing for them, so they’ll save costs where they can.  Makes a 
lot of sense for a conference this size.

 

 

From: roland.ja...@hispeed.ch <mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch>  
[mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:52 PM
To: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Nah, I don't and they managed in Houston, the last one i visited before.

I do think I pay enough.

 

Gesendet von meinem Windows 10 Phone

 

Von: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 12:46
An: SMS <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

You sort of have to expect that. Its difficult and costly to serve food to 23k. 

 

 

Rod Trent

 <http://itdevconnections.com/> 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

 

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?

I’ve good better food on any airplane and it’s warm.

 

That is just not acceptable.

 

-R

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

Hm, I may have noticed that on some. Sorry :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Marcum, John
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 22:23
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Everyone knows us silly American’s prefer quantity over quality when it comes 
to food. 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Johns, Damon (DoJ)
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 3:15 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Obviously a much smaller event but the food at Ignite Australia on the Gold 
Coast has always been off the charts :)

 

Make the trip down under next February everyone!

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, 28 September 2016 5:44 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Hm, there is that thing, hm, yeah, right airplanes :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Marable, Mike
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 20:49
An: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

No, it’s already a 12+ hour drive for me!

Move it to Vegas and I’m hosed!

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:35 PM
To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Ah man! No more Vegas??? We need to get MMS moved to vegas!

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com 
<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 1:31 PM
To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

[External Email] 

If you just want/need System Center topics, MMS still exists:  
https://mmsmoa.com/ 

 

If you work with more than just System Center, check out ITDC. ITDC 2016 is in 
2 weeks, but 2017 will be moving to San Francisco.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:23 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Yeah, 23000, well, another reason why I probably don’t want to attend Ignite 
anymore, it just got to big.

I miss MMS.

 

So, I guess I go outside to get something decent.

 

-Roland

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von rodtr...@myitforum.com 
<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 19:14
An: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

There were only around 10k in Houston.

 

This is over twice that number. Plus, there’s a LOT of eateries in the downtown 
area. You don’t have to eat conference food like you did being stuck at the 
event center in Chicago last year. MSFT counts on offloading meals every year, 
which is why they spend a lot of cycles promoting local restaurants.

 

Consider, too, that Microsoft doesn’t intend to make money off the conference. 
This is free marketing for them, so they’ll save costs where they can.  Makes a 
lot of sense for a conference this size.

 

 

From: roland.ja...@hispeed.ch <mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch>  
[mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:52 PM
To: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Nah, I don't and they managed in Houston, the last one i visited before.

I do think I pay enough.

 

Gesendet von meinem Windows 10 Phone

 

Von: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 12:46
An: SMS <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

You sort of have to expect that. Its difficult and costly to serve food to 23k. 

 

 

Rod Trent

 <http://itdevconnections.com/> 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitf

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

Hm, there is that thing, hm, yeah, right airplanes :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Marable, Mike
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 20:49
An: SMS 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

No, it’s already a 12+ hour drive for me!

Move it to Vegas and I’m hosed!

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:35 PM
To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Ah man! No more Vegas??? We need to get MMS moved to vegas!

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of rodtr...@myitforum.com 
<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 1:31 PM
To: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

[External Email] 

If you just want/need System Center topics, MMS still exists:  
https://mmsmoa.com/ 

 

If you work with more than just System Center, check out ITDC. ITDC 2016 is in 
2 weeks, but 2017 will be moving to San Francisco.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:23 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Yeah, 23000, well, another reason why I probably don’t want to attend Ignite 
anymore, it just got to big.

I miss MMS.

 

So, I guess I go outside to get something decent.

 

-Roland

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von rodtr...@myitforum.com 
<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 19:14
An: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

There were only around 10k in Houston.

 

This is over twice that number. Plus, there’s a LOT of eateries in the downtown 
area. You don’t have to eat conference food like you did being stuck at the 
event center in Chicago last year. MSFT counts on offloading meals every year, 
which is why they spend a lot of cycles promoting local restaurants.

 

Consider, too, that Microsoft doesn’t intend to make money off the conference. 
This is free marketing for them, so they’ll save costs where they can.  Makes a 
lot of sense for a conference this size.

 

 

From: roland.ja...@hispeed.ch <mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch>  
[mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:52 PM
To: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Nah, I don't and they managed in Houston, the last one i visited before.

I do think I pay enough.

 

Gesendet von meinem Windows 10 Phone

 

Von: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 12:46
An: SMS <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

You sort of have to expect that. Its difficult and costly to serve food to 23k. 

 

 

Rod Trent

 <http://itdevconnections.com/> 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

 

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?

I’ve good better food on any airplane and it’s warm.

 

That is just not acceptable.

 

-R

 

 

 

 

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AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

I guess that’s what I do, at least if I get approval. Certainly not this year 
anymore.

I was actually not sure if Ignite is right, I guess know I know it isn’t 
(anymore) and the “new” mms is better or ITDC

And I do like SF certainly more than Atlanta.

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von rodtr...@myitforum.com
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 20:31
An: SMS 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

If you just want/need System Center topics, MMS still exists:  
https://mmsmoa.com/ 

 

If you work with more than just System Center, check out ITDC. ITDC 2016 is in 
2 weeks, but 2017 will be moving to San Francisco.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 2:23 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Yeah, 23000, well, another reason why I probably don’t want to attend Ignite 
anymore, it just got to big.

I miss MMS.

 

So, I guess I go outside to get something decent.

 

-Roland

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von rodtr...@myitforum.com 
<mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 19:14
An: SMS mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

There were only around 10k in Houston.

 

This is over twice that number. Plus, there’s a LOT of eateries in the downtown 
area. You don’t have to eat conference food like you did being stuck at the 
event center in Chicago last year. MSFT counts on offloading meals every year, 
which is why they spend a lot of cycles promoting local restaurants.

 

Consider, too, that Microsoft doesn’t intend to make money off the conference. 
This is free marketing for them, so they’ll save costs where they can.  Makes a 
lot of sense for a conference this size.

 

 

From: roland.ja...@hispeed.ch <mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch>  
[mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:52 PM
To: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Nah, I don't and they managed in Houston, the last one i visited before.

I do think I pay enough.

 

Gesendet von meinem Windows 10 Phone

 

Von: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 12:46
An: SMS <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

You sort of have to expect that. Its difficult and costly to serve food to 23k. 

 

 

Rod Trent

 <http://itdevconnections.com/> 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

 

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?

I’ve good better food on any airplane and it’s warm.

 

That is just not acceptable.

 

-R

 

 

 

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

Yeah, 23000, well, another reason why I probably don’t want to attend Ignite 
anymore, it just got to big.

I miss MMS.

 

So, I guess I go outside to get something decent.

 

-Roland

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von rodtr...@myitforum.com
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 19:14
An: SMS 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

There were only around 10k in Houston.

 

This is over twice that number. Plus, there’s a LOT of eateries in the downtown 
area. You don’t have to eat conference food like you did being stuck at the 
event center in Chicago last year. MSFT counts on offloading meals every year, 
which is why they spend a lot of cycles promoting local restaurants.

 

Consider, too, that Microsoft doesn’t intend to make money off the conference. 
This is free marketing for them, so they’ll save costs where they can.  Makes a 
lot of sense for a conference this size.

 

 

From: roland.ja...@hispeed.ch <mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch>  
[mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:52 PM
To: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Nah, I don't and they managed in Houston, the last one i visited before.

I do think I pay enough.

 

Gesendet von meinem Windows 10 Phone

 

Von: rodtr...@myitforum.com <mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com> 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 12:46
An: SMS <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

You sort of have to expect that. Its difficult and costly to serve food to 23k. 

 

 

Rod Trent

 <http://itdevconnections.com/> 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

I’m kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the horrible 
food we get at Ignite.

 

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?

I’ve good better food on any airplane and it’s warm.

 

That is just not acceptable.

 

-R

 

 

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

 

AW: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

Meaning?

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. September 2016 18:37
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 

Laughed out loud :)

 

Cynthia Erno

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:21 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

 


ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments
or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.

I'm kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the
horrible food we get at Ignite.

 

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?

I've good better food on any airplane and it's warm.

 

That is just not acceptable.

 

-R

 

 

 

[mssms] Horrible food at Ignite

[Roland Janus]

I'm kind of surprised that there are not a zillion comments about the
horrible food we get at Ignite.

 

Cold sandwiches? Seriously and like the same every day?

I've good better food on any airplane and it's warm.

 

That is just not acceptable.

 

-R

 

AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using Branchcache?

[Roland Janus]

See you there then  :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. September 2016 00:28
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Yeah! Got a build of it right here!

 

Will be released at Ignite! :) So just one week to go!

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 14 september 2016 00:05
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Soo, still willing to send that tool Andreas?

 

BTW: CU1 for 1606 fixed the initial issue for prestage, but still think that
branchcache provides an advantage

 

-roland

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Roland Janus
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2016 19:13
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Thanks a lot mate!

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2016 11:23
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Fair’nuff. Will get to it after we release StifleR! So in a week or two.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 11 augusti 2016 01:11
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

You wrote it for a purpose didn’t you? I’m your purpose for real usage. Come
on :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 21:12
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Give us a call tomorrow and tell is how desperate you are. ;-)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 10 augusti 2016 19:15
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

You can imagine that I really could use that exe. Pilot user? Please? :)

 

Many are not, in particular Pharma or other regulated companies. It takes
them forever to do a change like that.

I’m not in Pharma anymore, so just bad timing.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 08:10
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Well that is just the PowerShell cmdlets. The API’s are there. We got an
executable that allows you to do the same, not released though.

 

Thought all people were on Windows 10 by now. ;-)

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 10 augusti 2016 00:15
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

All would be mood if I there is no way to do that on Win7.

There isn’t?

I mean after all that cmdlet makes it simple, but maybe it can be simulated
with more code?

 

-roland

 

 

 

Von:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
[ <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Wilcock
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. August 2016 15:11
An:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

What’s your actual command line for publish-bcwebcontent?

 

You need to point it at the actual content not the BC cache folders…

 

You can’t import on Win7. All this cool stuff only e

AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using Branchcache?

[Roland Janus]

Soo, still willing to send that tool Andreas?

 

BTW: CU1 for 1606 fixed the initial issue for prestage, but still think that
branchcache provides an advantage

 

-roland

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Roland Janus
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2016 19:13
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Thanks a lot mate!

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2016 11:23
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Fair’nuff. Will get to it after we release StifleR! So in a week or two.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 11 augusti 2016 01:11
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

You wrote it for a purpose didn’t you? I’m your purpose for real usage. Come
on :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 21:12
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Give us a call tomorrow and tell is how desperate you are. ;-)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 10 augusti 2016 19:15
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

You can imagine that I really could use that exe. Pilot user? Please? :)

 

Many are not, in particular Pharma or other regulated companies. It takes
them forever to do a change like that.

I’m not in Pharma anymore, so just bad timing.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 08:10
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Well that is just the PowerShell cmdlets. The API’s are there. We got an
executable that allows you to do the same, not released though.

 

Thought all people were on Windows 10 by now. ;-)

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 10 augusti 2016 00:15
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

All would be mood if I there is no way to do that on Win7.

There isn’t?

I mean after all that cmdlet makes it simple, but maybe it can be simulated
with more code?

 

-roland

 

 

 

Von:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
[ <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Wilcock
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. August 2016 15:11
An:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

What’s your actual command line for publish-bcwebcontent?

 

You need to point it at the actual content not the BC cache folders…

 

You can’t import on Win7. All this cool stuff only exists on Win 8 or above

 

Phil

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: 09 August 2016 08:55
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using
Branchcache?

 

I guess not many use Prestage media, otherwise it would have been noticed
that content usage of applications is broken since 1511 (up to 1606).

Basically, while the content is there it isn’t used and everything
downloaded anyway

I’ve opened a case with 1511 and it was confirmed and that a fix doesn’t
make it in 1606.

 

Does anyone know about this or any planned fixes?

 

Since it’s broken I was looking for an alternative solution (or w

AW: [mssms] New Servicing Model Win7, etc. - Next Month

[Roland Janus]

Was a big subject here already.

Pretty sure MS approach will be, no choice to exclude or in other words:
suck it up.

 

-R

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Robert Spinelli
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. September 2016 15:03
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: [mssms] New Servicing Model Win7, etc. - Next Month

 

I read the article below which gave some good detail in regards to new
servicing model that MS is introducing next month.

*
http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2016/08/31/lookout-configmgr-admins-windows
-monthly-updates-are-gonna-get-huge/

 

MS TechNet article

*
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further-simplify
ing-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/

 

Below is my quick summary/understanding of both articles.  Was looking for
input to make sure I got it right.

 

Basically they are going to stop releasing individual patches and release:

 

1.   Monthly Rollup

a.   Addresses both security issues and reliability issues in a single
update.

 

2.   Monthly Security-only updates

a.   This update collects all of the security patches for that month
into a single update. Unlike the Monthly Rollup, the Security-only update
will only include new security patches that are released for that month

 

3.   NET Framework Monthly Rollup

a.   The monthly .NET Framework Monthly Rollup will deliver both
security and reliability updates to all versions of the .NET Framework as a
single monthly release

 

4.   Monthly NET Framework security-only update

a.   NET Framework team will also release a security-only update on
Microsoft Update Catalog and Windows Server Update Services every month.

 

Here is some reasons I'm not a fan of this:

 

1.   Historically If there was one bad patch during the month you could
exclude rolling that one patch out.  In the new model you will have to hold
off the whole month of patches for one bad patch.  I'm not sure how MS
thinks this will make things more secure.

 

2.   Machine needs 3 patches as below that are all 50MB currently the
client would download 150MB of data.  In the new model they will end up
downloading the monthly security only updates.  If each monthly security
only updates is 500MB and it needs 3 patches as below the same client will
now download 1.5TB of data.  

a.   1 patch from October 

b.  1 patch from November

c.   1 patch from December 

 

I'm assuming SCCM will have the option to download the Monthly Security-only
updates or the Monthly Rollup (which would be larger) using manual download
or ADR ?

 

All input/feedback is welcome.


Rob

 

 

AW: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

[Roland Janus]

Ah, premier is already too expensive for us, but we do have partners having 
premier.

We may go through  them in the future.

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Lindenfeld, Ivan
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. August 2016 17:14
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a 
disasterous way

 

This is an add-on to Premier.  You need Premier, then you can buy automatic 
escalation to Level 3 support at Premier on a subscription basis.  I don’t know 
how they break it down exactly, but in order to buy SCCM L3 I think we bought 
all of System Center escalation to L3 upon first call.

 

Ivan

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 7:58 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a 
disasterous way

 

That’s premier you’re talking about?

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Lindenfeld, Ivan
Gesendet: Montag, 22. August 2016 21:31
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a 
disasterous way

 

We pay for L3 as well.  I handled the upgrade process and there was no review 
that I am aware of.  There is however a sizable yearly fee.  

 

Life has been good since we bought this feature.  

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 3:19 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a 
disasterous way

 

I used to do that, then budget cuts. Certainly worth the money. Not everyone 
can do it though, they have to review your cases and a certain percent have to 
have been escalated before they will let you.

 

On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Marcum, John mailto:jmar...@bradley.com> > wrote:

I always pay the upcharge on my support agreement which allows me to skip 
directly to third level support. Those guys are dang good and worth the money.

Typos compliments of Siri
Sent from my iOS device

On Aug 20, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Gerry Hampson 
mailto:gerry.hamp...@ergogroup.ie 
<mailto:gerry.hamp...@ergogroup.ie> >> wrote:

He's right John

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

From: Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> 
<mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch <mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> >>
Date: 20 August 2016 at 17:04:16 IST
To: mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >>
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way
Reply-To: mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >>

Have you dealt with the regular support lately?
Nightmare, pointless in most cases.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] Im Auftrag von Marcum, John
Gesendet: Freitag, 19. August 2016 14:46
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

Who the heck doesn’t have any kind of support agreement with MS?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:57 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

You’re right, the metaphor isn’t perfect, but you’re taking it too far. There 
are many things that are the cost of doing business, insurance, gas/petrol, 
oil, tires, etc., etc. If you are going to have a vehicle, you *must* expect to 
pay for these regardless of where they come from. That’s the point here. Not 
expecting to have maintenance costs is just a bad conclusion. But once again, 
as noted, it’s it’s a bug in a Mic

AW: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

[Roland Janus]

That’s premier you’re talking about?

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Lindenfeld, Ivan
Gesendet: Montag, 22. August 2016 21:31
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a 
disasterous way

 

We pay for L3 as well.  I handled the upgrade process and there was no review 
that I am aware of.  There is however a sizable yearly fee.  

 

Life has been good since we bought this feature.  

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 3:19 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a 
disasterous way

 

I used to do that, then budget cuts. Certainly worth the money. Not everyone 
can do it though, they have to review your cases and a certain percent have to 
have been escalated before they will let you.

 

On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Marcum, John mailto:jmar...@bradley.com> > wrote:

I always pay the upcharge on my support agreement which allows me to skip 
directly to third level support. Those guys are dang good and worth the money.

Typos compliments of Siri
Sent from my iOS device

On Aug 20, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Gerry Hampson 
mailto:gerry.hamp...@ergogroup.ie 
<mailto:gerry.hamp...@ergogroup.ie> >> wrote:

He's right John

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

From: Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> 
<mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch <mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> >>
Date: 20 August 2016 at 17:04:16 IST
To: mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >>
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way
Reply-To: mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >>

Have you dealt with the regular support lately?
Nightmare, pointless in most cases.


Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] Im Auftrag von Marcum, John
Gesendet: Freitag, 19. August 2016 14:46
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

Who the heck doesn’t have any kind of support agreement with MS?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 10:57 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

You’re right, the metaphor isn’t perfect, but you’re taking it too far. There 
are many things that are the cost of doing business, insurance, gas/petrol, 
oil, tires, etc., etc. If you are going to have a vehicle, you *must* expect to 
pay for these regardless of where they come from. That’s the point here. Not 
expecting to have maintenance costs is just a bad conclusion. But once again, 
as noted, it’s it’s a bug in a Microsoft product, you don’t pay for it.

J

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Lindenfeld, Ivan
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 4:38 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

Your metaphor is invalid.  The automaker has no ongoing control over any 
processes on that truck.  Microsoft has ongoing influence on the patching 
process.  We essentially rebuy the car every month.

Ivan

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
> [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:00 PM
To: ms

AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

[Roland Janus]

We have Software Assurance so we get calls, but regular support, which is now 
handled all over the world.

If you’re lucky you may even understand what they are saying…

But I wouldn’t call that helpful in most cases. At least they never charged the 
ticket.

 

I remember when there we’re real professionals handling the tickets and when 
talking to an escalation engineer actual meant something.

 

We probably ask our external partners to use their premier access to open 
tickets or at least as soon as a regular call isn’t getting us anywhere again.

 

-R

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Steve Whitcher
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. August 2016 21:19
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

We don't. At least back when we had a technet subscription we got a couple of 
free incidents, but since they killed that off opening a support incident is a 
$500 decision. Last time, I figured out the issue pretty much on my own before 
support called back, but we had already paid the $500, so I let him dig a 
little deeper into things, but basically considered it a waste. 

Opening an incident for something that we believe is a bug becomes a $500 
gamble... There's a decent chance that an attempt to report a bug and get it 
acknowledged through that channel costs us $500, plus the time invested in 
working with support. Maybe it's actually something in our environment causing 
the issue, or maybe MS would not consider it a bug. 

So, in the recent example of ad discovery in sccm 1606 throwing SQL errors of 
an OU name contains an apostrophe, I submitted it through connect, and hope it 
gets fixed eventually. Going through support might get better results, but it 
might cost me money.

Steve 

 

AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

[Roland Janus]

senting 
(actively here) a much bigger piece of the organization, complete with 
engineering staff and processes. If they were all chiming in this would be 
doubly difficult to absorb. Make no mistake about it though. Having a solid, 
safe, and secure operating system platform is, I believe, fundamental to 
everything else Microsoft is doing outside the data center. This is hardly a 
casual exercise in Redmond, with only someone like Michael devoted to the 
effort. Jason has  also done a good job of explaining some of those nuances as 
well.

 

Constructive comments here, along with real world business processes and 
related feedback as we’ve seen here, only helps to improve the process for all.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:36 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Looking at what showed up yesterday:

 



 

(We don’t have that many clients yet, hence only 95) 

 

The “none” is the severity which makes this even more nuts.

One week after patch Tuesday new updates show up which most likely could have 
been moved to next month.

Now they have to wait and are probably replaced with new versions next month 
anyway (or again a week later).

 

To be fair, Michael is the only one actively listening here, or at least 
contributing, but my feeling is that those few complaining are just the tip of 
the iceberg and it will be worse once it actually hits everyone.

It would be good for MS to listen and do something about it, but my guess is: 
not happening.

 

-R

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 22:13
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Excuse me if I didn’t use the correct terminology.  When “additional updates” 
are released it impacts us greatly.  We alsways decline them and then approve 
them with all the other monthly patches.  There are months where there may be a 
large number released through out the month and it impacts our workload and 
also leave room for error.   Why are they released during the month and not 
part of Patch Tuesday?  

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:16 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Just curious, what 52 are you referring to?

 

We routinely release additional updates throughout the month.  It’s very rare 
to have an out-of-band security update though, those are typically only on 
Patch Tuesday.  Flash tends to be the notable exception (we align with when 
Adobe and others release their updates), and of course fixes to serious 0-day 
exploits will always be important.

 

Thanks,

-Michael 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:01 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

I would also like to know how they are going to handle all of the out of band 
updates they release each month.  We pulled 52 out of bands last night and I’m 
sure with their pattern that’s not the end of them for this month.  Patch 
Tuesday is kind of a joke when they continually do this.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:57 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Less work for them. 

Here is the fix, use it or not. Even if it breaks other things. We will no 
longer put in the extra effort to fix our security flaws, instead we will put 
the burden on you to make sure 100% of everything you have is compatible with 
these updates.

 

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Ed Aldrich mailto:ed.aldr...@1e.com> > wrote:

How do you see this approach being driven as a profit-making process?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, Augus

AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

[Roland Janus]

I know and it is very much appreciated !

Even more if it improves things :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Todd Hemsell
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. August 2016 18:54
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

" Michael is the only one actively listening here"

 

He is very vocal in his support of us and has fought for us on a number of 
issues. Don't underestimate his influence. :)

Others also read it, they just do not respond.

 

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Looking at what showed up yesterday:

 



 

(We don’t have that many clients yet, hence only 95) 

 

The “none” is the severity which makes this even more nuts.

One week after patch Tuesday new updates show up which most likely could have 
been moved to next month.

Now they have to wait and are probably replaced with new versions next month 
anyway (or again a week later).

 

To be fair, Michael is the only one actively listening here, or at least 
contributing, but my feeling is that those few complaining are just the tip of 
the iceberg and it will be worse once it actually hits everyone.

It would be good for MS to listen and do something about it, but my guess is: 
not happening.

 

-R

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] Im Auftrag von Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 22:13
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Excuse me if I didn’t use the correct terminology.  When “additional updates” 
are released it impacts us greatly.  We alsways decline them and then approve 
them with all the other monthly patches.  There are months where there may be a 
large number released through out the month and it impacts our workload and 
also leave room for error.   Why are they released during the month and not 
part of Patch Tuesday?  

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:16 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Just curious, what 52 are you referring to?

 

We routinely release additional updates throughout the month.  It’s very rare 
to have an out-of-band security update though, those are typically only on 
Patch Tuesday.  Flash tends to be the notable exception (we align with when 
Adobe and others release their updates), and of course fixes to serious 0-day 
exploits will always be important.

 

Thanks,

-Michael 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:01 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

I would also like to know how they are going to handle all of the out of band 
updates they release each month.  We pulled 52 out of bands last night and I’m 
sure with their pattern that’s not the end of them for this month.  Patch 
Tuesday is kind of a joke when they continually do this.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:57 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Less work for them. 

Here is the fix, use it or not. Even if it breaks other things. We will no 
longer put in the extra effort to fix our security flaws, instead we will put 
the burden on you to make sure 100% of everything you have is compatible with 
these updates.

 

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Ed Aldrich mailto:ed.aldr...@1e.com> > wrote:

How do you see this approach being driven as a profit-making process?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:20 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Hey, it makes MS more profitable, that is all that matters,.

 

Same with the forced advertising in a corporate OS you pay millions for

S

AW: Point and Print KB3170455 -- was RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

[Roland Janus]

Now, let’s talk about testing and quality control… :)

It just proves our point doesn’t it?

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Miller, Todd
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. August 2016 00:27
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Point and Print KB3170455 -- was RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to
change Windows patching in a disasterous way

 

There is a hotfix to correct the problems with point-and-print introduced
with KB3170455.  The hotfix is currently not available publicly.  The hotfix
was submitted one day after the deadline to be eligible for the September
package.  I am told the product team is attempting to get an exception so
the hotfix can be released with the September updates – otherwise it will
wait until October.I did not take the hotfix myself because with it
being a private hotfix, it sounded like a real pain to install on clients
and is only intended for testing – and they already had lots of testers.  My
case agent said that testing  of the hotfix had positive results for other
clients.  I rolled back the update instead (which I can still do since I am
still on Windows 7 and it is not October yet!)At any rate, there is a
patch coming that corrects the problems with point and print introduced by
3170455.  After the patch is applied, it should work again to have a GPO
that specifies print servers that you “trust” for printer drivers to install
silently (or not depending on the GPO) without elevation.  And those print
drivers should install according to the settings you have in that GPO
regardless of whether the print driver is packaged or not.   

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:35 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way

 

So, what’s the practical.. solution to 3170455?

 

I really see no real thread on keeping point&print working as before
compared to not being able to have network printers installed without major
hassle.

I use AD-site based GPO, whenever people move to another site they get a
central printer installed. This is just great until MS broke it for a
security improvement I can really live with.

Not having any choice is what sucks big time here.

 

-Roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Niehaus
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. August 2016 18:41
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way

 

Each update (MSU/CAB) has to be installed in its entirety.

 

If you encounter any issues with an update, contact Microsoft Support right
away.  They are serious about resolving issues as quickly as possible.

 

Certainly the reasoning for making this change is simple:

 



 

Thanks,

-Michael 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 5:38 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way

 

I thought this was possible? Like WUSA /u /kb:blabla?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mawdsley R.
Sent: den 16 augusti 2016 14:16
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way

 

Agree.  It can only be a good thing if it enables us to have a more
consistent environment out there.

 

However, It would be excellent if they could implement some way we could
install the Rollup, whilst excluding one of its subsidiaries, even
temporarily.

 

Rich Mawdsley

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: 16 August 2016 12:55
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way

 

I was little uneasy about Windows 10 CU/UR whatever they call it. It’s been
going well so far.  I think this is a good thing.  From my perspective, it
will save me a tone of time, and make our PC’s way more secure.  Bring it
on. 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marable, Mike
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Su

AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

[Roland Janus]

Looking at what showed up yesterday:

 



 

(We don’t have that many clients yet, hence only 95) 

 

The “none” is the severity which makes this even more nuts.

One week after patch Tuesday new updates show up which most likely could have 
been moved to next month.

Now they have to wait and are probably replaced with new versions next month 
anyway (or again a week later).

 

To be fair, Michael is the only one actively listening here, or at least 
contributing, but my feeling is that those few complaining are just the tip of 
the iceberg and it will be worse once it actually hits everyone.

It would be good for MS to listen and do something about it, but my guess is: 
not happening.

 

-R

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 22:13
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Excuse me if I didn’t use the correct terminology.  When “additional updates” 
are released it impacts us greatly.  We alsways decline them and then approve 
them with all the other monthly patches.  There are months where there may be a 
large number released through out the month and it impacts our workload and 
also leave room for error.   Why are they released during the month and not 
part of Patch Tuesday?  

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:16 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Just curious, what 52 are you referring to?

 

We routinely release additional updates throughout the month.  It’s very rare 
to have an out-of-band security update though, those are typically only on 
Patch Tuesday.  Flash tends to be the notable exception (we align with when 
Adobe and others release their updates), and of course fixes to serious 0-day 
exploits will always be important.

 

Thanks,

-Michael 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:01 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

I would also like to know how they are going to handle all of the out of band 
updates they release each month.  We pulled 52 out of bands last night and I’m 
sure with their pattern that’s not the end of them for this month.  Patch 
Tuesday is kind of a joke when they continually do this.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:57 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Less work for them. 

Here is the fix, use it or not. Even if it breaks other things. We will no 
longer put in the extra effort to fix our security flaws, instead we will put 
the burden on you to make sure 100% of everything you have is compatible with 
these updates.

 

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Ed Aldrich mailto:ed.aldr...@1e.com> > wrote:

How do you see this approach being driven as a profit-making process?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:20 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Hey, it makes MS more profitable, that is all that matters,.

 

Same with the forced advertising in a corporate OS you pay millions for

Same as with the cloud

Same as with everything

 

Screw you, suck it up. lol

 

 

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Murray, Mike mailto:mmur...@csuchico.edu> > wrote:

I’ve been told “get used to it” on the patch management list. Not good enough. 
I think this is ridiculous.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 4:08 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

1+

 

If they include such updates, like 3170455 which we also excluded, that’s 
certainly going the mess up things..

 

Von: list

AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

[Roland Janus]

Yeap, new updates just showed up, messing with my monthly procedure.

So, basically updates, critical or not pop up all the time?

I’ve just decided to not deploy them and wait for next month.

 

I probably would even consider deploying those new “improved” updates way later 
and wait for all that (negative) feedback before I have to fix bad updates or 
applications which don’t get fixed that fast.

Sorry, while I like the idea I certainly don’t approve the result we’re going 
to have to live with.

 

-R

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 17:01
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

I would also like to know how they are going to handle all of the out of band 
updates they release each month.  We pulled 52 out of bands last night and I’m 
sure with their pattern that’s not the end of them for this month.  Patch 
Tuesday is kind of a joke when they continually do this.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:57 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Less work for them. 

Here is the fix, use it or not. Even if it breaks other things. We will no 
longer put in the extra effort to fix our security flaws, instead we will put 
the burden on you to make sure 100% of everything you have is compatible with 
these updates.

 

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Ed Aldrich mailto:ed.aldr...@1e.com> > wrote:

How do you see this approach being driven as a profit-making process?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:20 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

Hey, it makes MS more profitable, that is all that matters,.

 

Same with the forced advertising in a corporate OS you pay millions for

Same as with the cloud

Same as with everything

 

Screw you, suck it up. lol

 

 

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Murray, Mike mailto:mmur...@csuchico.edu> > wrote:

I’ve been told “get used to it” on the patch management list. Not good enough. 
I think this is ridiculous.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 4:08 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous 
way

 

1+

 

If they include such updates, like 3170455 which we also excluded, that’s 
certainly going the mess up things..

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Miller, Todd
Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2016 22:42
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

 

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further-simplifying-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/

 

Wow, this could be a disaster.

 

We have had 4 or 5 cases in the last 12 months where we have had to delay the 
installation of a security update so that applications could be modified to 
work with updates.  In a couple of cases, one ongoing, Microsoft has released a 
security update, then acknowledged a bug in that update and released a fix 
several months later.  We currently have KB3170455 denied in our environment 
because it breaks point – and –print driver installation.  In the new world, I 
will need to decide which is worse – no security updates for 3 months, or break 
printing for all non-admin users.  Currently I can decide to pull or hold an 
individual patch, but it looks like that option is being removed from Windows 7 
and 8. This comes at a time where it seems like patch quality has hit a 
rough patch, making this decision more troubling.

 


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AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: den 16 augusti 2016 01:29
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way

 

I’ve been told “get used to it” on the patch management list. Not good
enough. I think this is ridiculous.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 4:08 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way

 

1+

 

If they include such updates, like 3170455 which we also excluded, that’s
certainly going the mess up things..

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Miller, Todd
Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2016 22:42
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way

 

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further-simplify
ing-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/

 

Wow, this could be a disaster.

 

We have had 4 or 5 cases in the last 12 months where we have had to delay
the installation of a security update so that applications could be modified
to work with updates.  In a couple of cases, one ongoing, Microsoft has
released a security update, then acknowledged a bug in that update and
released a fix several months later.  We currently have KB3170455 denied in
our environment because it breaks point – and –print driver installation.
In the new world, I will need to decide which is worse – no security updates
for 3 months, or break printing for all non-admin users.  Currently I can
decide to pull or hold an individual patch, but it looks like that option is
being removed from Windows 7 and 8. This comes at a time where it seems
like patch quality has hit a rough patch, making this decision more
troubling.

 

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AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous way

[Roland Janus]

1+

 

If they include such updates, like 3170455 which we also excluded, that's
certainly going the mess up things..

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Miller, Todd
Gesendet: Montag, 15. August 2016 22:42
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way

 

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further-simplify
ing-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/

 

Wow, this could be a disaster.

 

We have had 4 or 5 cases in the last 12 months where we have had to delay
the installation of a security update so that applications could be modified
to work with updates.  In a couple of cases, one ongoing, Microsoft has
released a security update, then acknowledged a bug in that update and
released a fix several months later.  We currently have KB3170455 denied in
our environment because it breaks point - and -print driver installation.
In the new world, I will need to decide which is worse - no security updates
for 3 months, or break printing for all non-admin users.  Currently I can
decide to pull or hold an individual patch, but it looks like that option is
being removed from Windows 7 and 8. This comes at a time where it seems
like patch quality has hit a rough patch, making this decision more
troubling.

 

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AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using Branchcache?

[Roland Janus]

Thanks a lot mate!

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. August 2016 11:23
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Fair’nuff. Will get to it after we release StifleR! So in a week or two.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 11 augusti 2016 01:11
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

You wrote it for a purpose didn’t you? I’m your purpose for real usage. Come
on :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 21:12
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Give us a call tomorrow and tell is how desperate you are. ;-)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 10 augusti 2016 19:15
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

You can imagine that I really could use that exe. Pilot user? Please? :)

 

Many are not, in particular Pharma or other regulated companies. It takes
them forever to do a change like that.

I’m not in Pharma anymore, so just bad timing.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 08:10
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Well that is just the PowerShell cmdlets. The API’s are there. We got an
executable that allows you to do the same, not released though.

 

Thought all people were on Windows 10 by now. ;-)

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 10 augusti 2016 00:15
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

All would be mood if I there is no way to do that on Win7.

There isn’t?

I mean after all that cmdlet makes it simple, but maybe it can be simulated
with more code?

 

-roland

 

 

 

Von:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
[ <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Wilcock
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. August 2016 15:11
An:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

What’s your actual command line for publish-bcwebcontent?

 

You need to point it at the actual content not the BC cache folders…

 

You can’t import on Win7. All this cool stuff only exists on Win 8 or above

 

Phil

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: 09 August 2016 08:55
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using
Branchcache?

 

I guess not many use Prestage media, otherwise it would have been noticed
that content usage of applications is broken since 1511 (up to 1606).

Basically, while the content is there it isn’t used and everything
downloaded anyway

I’ve opened a case with 1511 and it was confirmed and that a fix doesn’t
make it in 1606.

 

Does anyone know about this or any planned fixes?

 

Since it’s broken I was looking for an alternative solution (or workaround):
Branchcache.

 

I’ve brought this up in the past and Andreas helped (kind of :) ), now I’d
like to actually do this:

 

* Export all BC content from the server

* Create a package and have it applied during OSD before
applications are used (which does work for prestage)

* When the content is requested, local BC is used.

 

When this was discussed before it was basically about that:

 

http://2pintsoftware.com/2psfaqs/branchcache-caching-faq/

 

But I don’t get it.

 

On The Server

1

AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using Branchcache?

[Roland Janus]

You wrote it for a purpose didn’t you? I’m your purpose for real usage. Come
on :)

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 21:12
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Give us a call tomorrow and tell is how desperate you are. ;-)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 10 augusti 2016 19:15
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

You can imagine that I really could use that exe. Pilot user? Please? :)

 

Many are not, in particular Pharma or other regulated companies. It takes
them forever to do a change like that.

I’m not in Pharma anymore, so just bad timing.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 08:10
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Well that is just the PowerShell cmdlets. The API’s are there. We got an
executable that allows you to do the same, not released though.

 

Thought all people were on Windows 10 by now. ;-)

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 10 augusti 2016 00:15
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

All would be mood if I there is no way to do that on Win7.

There isn’t?

I mean after all that cmdlet makes it simple, but maybe it can be simulated
with more code?

 

-roland

 

 

 

Von:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
[ <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Wilcock
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. August 2016 15:11
An:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

What’s your actual command line for publish-bcwebcontent?

 

You need to point it at the actual content not the BC cache folders…

 

You can’t import on Win7. All this cool stuff only exists on Win 8 or above

 

Phil

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: 09 August 2016 08:55
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using
Branchcache?

 

I guess not many use Prestage media, otherwise it would have been noticed
that content usage of applications is broken since 1511 (up to 1606).

Basically, while the content is there it isn’t used and everything
downloaded anyway

I’ve opened a case with 1511 and it was confirmed and that a fix doesn’t
make it in 1606.

 

Does anyone know about this or any planned fixes?

 

Since it’s broken I was looking for an alternative solution (or workaround):
Branchcache.

 

I’ve brought this up in the past and Andreas helped (kind of :) ), now I’d
like to actually do this:

 

* Export all BC content from the server

* Create a package and have it applied during OSD before
applications are used (which does work for prestage)

* When the content is requested, local BC is used.

 

When this was discussed before it was basically about that:

 

http://2pintsoftware.com/2psfaqs/branchcache-caching-faq/

 

But I don’t get it.

 

On The Server

1.Stage the Content
Publish-BCWebContent -Path c:\inetpub\wwwroot\MyBigWIMFile.WIM -StageData
-StagingPath c:\temp

That is throwing an error: ObjectNotFound.

Isn’t that where the content is:

PS U:\> dir
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistPub

 

 

Directory:
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistPub

 

 

ModeLastWriteTime Length Name

- -- 

d17.06.2015 13:53PrimaryHashStore

d17.06.2015 13:53TempHashStore

-a---09.08.2016 00:08   8192 edb.chk

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edb.log

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbres1.jrs

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 e

AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using Branchcache?

[Roland Janus]

You can imagine that I really could use that exe. Pilot user? Please? :)

 

Many are not, in particular Pharma or other regulated companies. It takes
them forever to do a change like that.

I’m not in Pharma anymore, so just bad timing.

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. August 2016 08:10
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

Well that is just the PowerShell cmdlets. The API’s are there. We got an
executable that allows you to do the same, not released though.

 

Thought all people were on Windows 10 by now. ;-)

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 10 augusti 2016 00:15
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

All would be mood if I there is no way to do that on Win7.

There isn’t?

I mean after all that cmdlet makes it simple, but maybe it can be simulated
with more code?

 

-roland

 

 

 

Von:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
[ <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Wilcock
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. August 2016 15:11
An:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

What’s your actual command line for publish-bcwebcontent?

 

You need to point it at the actual content not the BC cache folders…

 

You can’t import on Win7. All this cool stuff only exists on Win 8 or above

 

Phil

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: 09 August 2016 08:55
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using
Branchcache?

 

I guess not many use Prestage media, otherwise it would have been noticed
that content usage of applications is broken since 1511 (up to 1606).

Basically, while the content is there it isn’t used and everything
downloaded anyway

I’ve opened a case with 1511 and it was confirmed and that a fix doesn’t
make it in 1606.

 

Does anyone know about this or any planned fixes?

 

Since it’s broken I was looking for an alternative solution (or workaround):
Branchcache.

 

I’ve brought this up in the past and Andreas helped (kind of :) ), now I’d
like to actually do this:

 

* Export all BC content from the server

* Create a package and have it applied during OSD before
applications are used (which does work for prestage)

* When the content is requested, local BC is used.

 

When this was discussed before it was basically about that:

 

http://2pintsoftware.com/2psfaqs/branchcache-caching-faq/

 

But I don’t get it.

 

On The Server

1.Stage the Content
Publish-BCWebContent -Path c:\inetpub\wwwroot\MyBigWIMFile.WIM -StageData
-StagingPath c:\temp

That is throwing an error: ObjectNotFound.

Isn’t that where the content is:

PS U:\> dir
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistPub

 

 

Directory:
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistPub

 

 

ModeLastWriteTime Length Name

- -- 

d17.06.2015 13:53PrimaryHashStore

d17.06.2015 13:53TempHashStore

-a---09.08.2016 00:08   8192 edb.chk

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edb.log

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbres1.jrs

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbres2.jrs

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbtmp.log

-a---09.08.2016 00:088454144 PeerDistPubCatalog.pds

 

 

PS U:\> dir
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistRepub

 

 

Directory:
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistRepub

 

 

ModeLastWriteTime Length Name

- -- 

d17.06.2015 13:53Store

-a---30.07.2016 02:46   8192 edb.chk

-a---30.07.2016 02:465242880 edb.log

-a---17.06.2015 13:535242880 edbres1.jrs

-a---17.06.2015 13:535242880 edbres2.jrs

-a---17.06.2015 16:095242880 edbtmp.log

-a---30.07.2016 02:478454144 PeerDistRepubStoreCatalog.pds

 

How do I export that content then?

2.

AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using Branchcache?

[Roland Janus]

All would be mood if I there is no way to do that on Win7.

There isn't?

I mean after all that cmdlet makes it simple, but maybe it can be simulated
with more code?

 

-roland

 

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Phil Wilcock
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. August 2016 15:11
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround
using Branchcache?

 

What's your actual command line for publish-bcwebcontent?

 

You need to point it at the actual content not the BC cache folders.

 

You can't import on Win7. All this cool stuff only exists on Win 8 or above

 

Phil

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: 09 August 2016 08:55
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using
Branchcache?

 

I guess not many use Prestage media, otherwise it would have been noticed
that content usage of applications is broken since 1511 (up to 1606).

Basically, while the content is there it isn't used and everything
downloaded anyway

I've opened a case with 1511 and it was confirmed and that a fix doesn't
make it in 1606.

 

Does anyone know about this or any planned fixes?

 

Since it's broken I was looking for an alternative solution (or workaround):
Branchcache.

 

I've brought this up in the past and Andreas helped (kind of :) ), now I'd
like to actually do this:

 

* Export all BC content from the server

* Create a package and have it applied during OSD before
applications are used (which does work for prestage)

* When the content is requested, local BC is used.

 

When this was discussed before it was basically about that:

 

http://2pintsoftware.com/2psfaqs/branchcache-caching-faq/

 

But I don't get it.

 

On The Server

1.Stage the Content
Publish-BCWebContent -Path c:\inetpub\wwwroot\MyBigWIMFile.WIM -StageData
-StagingPath c:\temp

That is throwing an error: ObjectNotFound.

Isn't that where the content is:

PS U:\> dir
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistPub

 

 

Directory:
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistPub

 

 

ModeLastWriteTime Length Name

- -- 

d17.06.2015 13:53PrimaryHashStore

d17.06.2015 13:53TempHashStore

-a---09.08.2016 00:08   8192 edb.chk

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edb.log

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbres1.jrs

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbres2.jrs

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbtmp.log

-a---09.08.2016 00:088454144 PeerDistPubCatalog.pds

 

 

PS U:\> dir
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistRepub

 

 

Directory:
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistRepub

 

 

ModeLastWriteTime Length Name

- -- 

d17.06.2015 13:53Store

-a---30.07.2016 02:46   8192 edb.chk

-a---30.07.2016 02:465242880 edb.log

-a---17.06.2015 13:535242880 edbres1.jrs

-a---17.06.2015 13:535242880 edbres2.jrs

-a---17.06.2015 16:095242880 edbtmp.log

-a---30.07.2016 02:478454144 PeerDistRepubStoreCatalog.pds

 

How do I export that content then?

2. Export the content to a package (creates a handy .zip file) 

Export-BCCachePackage -StagingPath c:\temp -Destination c:\MyBCPackage

That would work once 1 works?

On The Client

1.Import the Package Created in Step 2 Above

Import-BCCachePackage -Path C:\temp\pkg\PeerDistPackage.zip

And on Win 7?

..And you're done! The content and is in the client cache ready for access
by other computers, and the hashes are on the server (they get generated
during the Staging part).

 

cheers, Roland

 

 

 

AW: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using Branchcache?

[Roland Janus]

I would add it as a package to a prestage media and that wim is on an usb stick 
and applied from it. Like 20GB.

All that is working, but as Phil stated: If I can’t apply the cache to Win7 :(

 

-Roland

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. August 2016 22:51
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround 
using Branchcache?

 

Nah, the local path of the content lib, not the URL. BC doesn’t care about file 
names etc. Just file data, or chunks of it to be precise. Using the 
publish-bcwebcontent command this way is a good way of showing how cool BC is, 
you can even run that on a client without having any web server around. :)

 

So when you publish the content, it basically makes the hashes, then you zip it 
up with the other command Export-BCCachePackage which creates the zip with the 
actual data.

 

To answer the inline questions:

 

Are you saying the "publish-bcwebcontent" command line would be run against the 
content library itself through the web interface of the DP? Yes.

 

Wouldn't it have to be the DP that these clients would be checking the BC hash 
against? No, as long as the server secret is the same. This is what the secret 
BranchCache checkbox on the DP’s does.

 

And wouldn't a successful deployment using the branchcache option be needed 
first, to create the hashes for the content that you would be "manually 
caching". No, that’s what publish-bcwebcontent does, it creates the hashes.

 

Do you have to do a piece of content at a time if you were caching it this way? 
No, it can recurse through a folder structure, so maybe contentlib can be 
challenging, maybe get it from the source directly?

 

How could you do this in batches for large amounts of content from the library? 
How much data are we talking? I am not sure I would do it this way at all to 
begin though. Are you building via USB?

 

So a little unsure what you are trying to achieve and how, but from a technical 
standpoint most things are doable. But it doesn’t make sense to stage an app 
into BC for it to then be installed using BC again, as it is most likely 
already installed on other PC’s and in their BranchCache cache. Describe the 
scenario a bit more and we might be able to help you better.

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jay Marsett
Sent: den 9 augusti 2016 21:27
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround 
using Branchcache?

 

Phil,

 

Are you saying the "publish-bcwebcontent" command line would be run against the 
content library itself through the web interface of the DP?  Wouldn't it have 
to be the DP that these clients would be checking the BC hash against?  And 
wouldn't a successful deployment using the branchcache option be needed first, 
to create the hashes for the content that you would be "manually caching".  Do 
you have to do a piece of content at a time if you were caching it this way? 
How could you do this in batches for large amounts of content from the library? 

 

Still this might be better than deploying the content to get it into the cache 
for any static content.  Also toyed with deployment availability and deadlines 
far far into the future to stage the branchcache, but haven't seen that work at 
scale yet.  Other thought I had was to use offline media task sequence 
deployments to stage the content on branchcache/WinPE peercache peers, but I 
have no idea if that is supported, or if it would work.

 

Jay

 

 

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Phil Wilcock mailto:ph...@2pintsoftware.com> > wrote:

What’s your actual command line for publish-bcwebcontent?

 

You need to point it at the actual content not the BC cache folders…

 

You can’t import on Win7. All this cool stuff only exists on Win 8 or above

 

Phil

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: 09 August 2016 08:55
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using 
Branchcache?

 

I guess not many use Prestage media, otherwise it would have been noticed that 
content usage of applications is broken since 1511 (up to 1606).

Basically, while the content is there it isn’t used and everything downloaded 
anyway

I’ve opened a case with 1511 and it was confirmed and that a fix doesn’t make 
it in 1606.

 

Does anyone know about this or any planned fixes?

 

Since it’s broken I was looking for an alternative sol

[mssms] Content for Apps broken in Prestage media, workaround using Branchcache?

[Roland Janus]

I guess not many use Prestage media, otherwise it would have been noticed
that content usage of applications is broken since 1511 (up to 1606).

Basically, while the content is there it isn't used and everything
downloaded anyway

I've opened a case with 1511 and it was confirmed and that a fix doesn't
make it in 1606.

 

Does anyone know about this or any planned fixes?

 

Since it's broken I was looking for an alternative solution (or workaround):
Branchcache.

 

I've brought this up in the past and Andreas helped (kind of :) ), now I'd
like to actually do this:

 

* Export all BC content from the server

* Create a package and have it applied during OSD before
applications are used (which does work for prestage)

* When the content is requested, local BC is used.

 

When this was discussed before it was basically about that:

 

http://2pintsoftware.com/2psfaqs/branchcache-caching-faq/

 

But I don't get it.

 

On The Server

1.Stage the Content
Publish-BCWebContent -Path c:\inetpub\wwwroot\MyBigWIMFile.WIM -StageData
-StagingPath c:\temp

That is throwing an error: ObjectNotFound.

Isn't that where the content is:

PS U:\> dir
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistPub

 

 

Directory:
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistPub

 

 

ModeLastWriteTime Length Name

- -- 

d17.06.2015 13:53PrimaryHashStore

d17.06.2015 13:53TempHashStore

-a---09.08.2016 00:08   8192 edb.chk

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edb.log

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbres1.jrs

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbres2.jrs

-a---09.08.2016 00:085242880 edbtmp.log

-a---09.08.2016 00:088454144 PeerDistPubCatalog.pds

 

 

PS U:\> dir
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistRepub

 

 

Directory:
C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\AppData\Local\PeerDistRepub

 

 

ModeLastWriteTime Length Name

- -- 

d17.06.2015 13:53Store

-a---30.07.2016 02:46   8192 edb.chk

-a---30.07.2016 02:465242880 edb.log

-a---17.06.2015 13:535242880 edbres1.jrs

-a---17.06.2015 13:535242880 edbres2.jrs

-a---17.06.2015 16:095242880 edbtmp.log

-a---30.07.2016 02:478454144 PeerDistRepubStoreCatalog.pds

 

How do I export that content then?

2. Export the content to a package (creates a handy .zip file) 

Export-BCCachePackage -StagingPath c:\temp -Destination c:\MyBCPackage

That would work once 1 works?

On The Client

1.Import the Package Created in Step 2 Above

Import-BCCachePackage -Path C:\temp\pkg\PeerDistPackage.zip

And on Win 7?

..And you're done! The content and is in the client cache ready for access
by other computers, and the hashes are on the server (they get generated
during the Staging part).

 

cheers, Roland

 

AW: AW: [mssms] Working HP Warranty tool?

[Roland Janus]

So, I've done:

 

Import-Module -FullyQualifiedName .\HPWarranty.psm1

 

It's not working here, invoke-hpwarrantylookup throws an error (it knows the
function).

First I thought it's because of the proxy at work, but even at home using
this (needed by the above function)

 

Invoke-HPWarrantyRegistrationRequest -SerialNumber "5CG6053Y39"
-ProductModel "HP EliteBook 840 G3"

 

Returns nothing (empty), no token or gdid.

Can you please check if you get something with that?

Or am I missing something else?

 

Thanks, roland

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Stephen Leuthold
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Juli 2016 16:05
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [mssms] Working HP Warranty tool?

 

It works for me.

Regards, 

Stephen


On Jul 17, 2016, at 7:03 AM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

I'll take a look.

 

Does it still work?

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Stephen Leuthold
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Juli 2016 03:01
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Working HP Warranty tool?

 

I've used this to pull warranty details and store into a WMI class:
https://github.com/artingu/HPWarranty

Regards, 

Stephen


On Jul 16, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Hi,

 

is there still a free and working solution for that?

 

This:
https://sccmguru.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/hp-and-lenovo-warranty-information
-in-configuration-manager-2012-r2/

Hasn't been working for a while now.

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AW: [mssms] Working HP Warranty tool?

[Roland Janus]

I'll take a look.

 

Does it still work?

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Stephen Leuthold
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Juli 2016 03:01
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] Working HP Warranty tool?

 

I've used this to pull warranty details and store into a WMI class:
https://github.com/artingu/HPWarranty

Regards, 

Stephen


On Jul 16, 2016, at 7:44 PM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Hi,

 

is there still a free and working solution for that?

 

This:
https://sccmguru.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/hp-and-lenovo-warranty-information
-in-configuration-manager-2012-r2/

Hasn't been working for a while now.

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mssms] Working HP Warranty tool?

[Roland Janus]

Hi,

 

is there still a free and working solution for that?

 

This:
https://sccmguru.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/hp-and-lenovo-warranty-information
-in-configuration-manager-2012-r2/

Hasn't been working for a while now.

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

AW: [mssms] SCCM Current Branch

[Roland Janus]

1+

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Miller, Todd
Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 07:17
An:  
Betreff: Re: [mssms] SCCM Current Branch

 

I also hope they avoid common error codes as versions.  Thank heavens there
was no configmgr 1603 or we'd never find anything in a Google search.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 8, 2016, at 16:57, Aaron Czechowski mailto:aaron.czechow...@microsoft.com> > wrote:

ROTFL

I just look forward to 2020.we need to adjust our cycles that year to ship
in March, July and December.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ryan
Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2016 17:14
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCCM Current Branch

 

The version numbers are based on dates, so you can quickly see what order
they are in.

1602 = February 2016

1511 = November 2015

If the version comes with "TP" that means it is a preview and not
production. 

When Microsoft talks to us about version 8811, it'll be November, 2088.

Though I don't think Microsoft thought this through. What do we do after
9912? Is this SCCM's Y2K?

#FutureAaronProblems

 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:10 AM Aaron Czechowski
mailto:aaron.czechow...@microsoft.com> >
wrote:

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-US/library/mt607046.aspx
 

 

The following versions of Configuration Manager are available as a baseline,
an update, or both: 


Version

Availability date

Baseline

in-console update


1511

5.00.8325.1000

12/8/2015

Yes

No


1602

5.00.8355.1000

3/11/2016

No

Yes

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
 ] On Behalf Of Hun boy
Sent: Friday, 8 July, 2016 06:52


To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] SCCM Current Branch

 

Sorry,

 

if i hijack this thread.

 

If MS keep changing the numbers like 1606, 1511 is there any ms link
that tells what is current version and previous versions ?

 

Thanks & Regards, 

Hunboy
564-1888

 


  _  


From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> > on
behalf of Lindenfeld, Ivan mailto:ivan.lindenf...@fnf.com> >
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 7:53 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Current Branch 

 

I interpret the public data as:

 

CM 1606 = Windows 10 Anniversary Edition release

CM later this year = Server 2016 release

 

So we get two more Current Branches this year, for three total.

 

No inside info, not an MVP.  YMMV.  Objects in this mirror are closer than
they appear.  

 

Ivan Lindenfeld

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Shane Alexander
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 9:53 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] SCCM Current Branch

 

"there will also be a full production 1606 release" ... (you must know more
than us) ...
 
... I personally think that 1606 will be too old, still buggy and not
complete, to be CB, however MS do need to lock down code.
Reviewing some random timelines published ...

FAQ: System Center Configuration Manager (Current Branch)

Learn about the Microsoft Configuration Manager current branch model and how
it works with the Windows 10 servicing model

 

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/enterprisemobility/2016/06/24/faq-system
-center-configuration-manager-current-branch/


 
 

 

AW: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

[Roland Janus]

I guess because packages and DISM is the new way?

Well, maybe, but since driver packages work for me just fine I don’t see a 
reason to change.

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Juli 2016 15:27
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

I’ll let Kent answer that one! :)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 1 juli 2016 14:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

Ah, the source only was it.

Good to know.

 

Driver packages not used? Why do you say that?

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Juli 2016 08:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

And that only breaks something related to driver packages, which nobody seems 
to use anyhow.

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: den 1 juli 2016 06:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

Nah, thats for the source.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 1 juli 2016 00:43
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

Isn’t there an issue or “not supported” statement about de-dupe for the DP?

 

-R

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Wilcock
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2016 09:08
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

In Current Branch  fairly sure FOREGROUND is no longer used. Previously it was 
the default for user initiated downloads.

 

Policy wise – you should use the ‘Setup a Work Schedule’ and ‘Setup a 
Maintenance Schedule’ GPOs

 

You MUST enable the checkbox in the Work schedule that says ‘Ignore Bandwidth 
limits if source and destination are on the same subnet’. Otherwise local 
BranchCache transfers will happen at the throttled rate.

 

Also if you are on Win7 you need to make sure that you have 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2863374  or  BITS sometimes stops caring 
about Policy and goes full speed 

 

When setting a speed over 2048 Kbit/s set the policy to use Mb instead of Kb.

 

Finally, always enabled DeDupe on the DP – DeDupe + BranchCache rules!

 

Cheers

 

Senior

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: 29 June 2016 06:18
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

Think even FOREGROUND is gone after 2 BITS supporters ranted about it… Senior 
can you confirm?

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: den 29 juni 2016 01:40
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

You sure about this one. Isn’t it foreground if user initiated, background for 
deadline initiated?

 

J

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:12 PM
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

There are two BITS bandwidth policies, one for content retrieved from the 
server and another for content retrieved from a peer.  Limiting the server 
traffic is fine, but you’ll want the peer traffic to run at higher speed, since 
it doesn’t impact the rest of the network (just on that one segment).

 

Also note that these BITS policies only apply to background transfers, not 
foreground ones.  ConfigMgr “required” deployments use foreground BITS jobs, 
while “available” deployments use background BITS jobs.

 

Thanks,

-Michael

 

From:  <

AW: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

[Roland Janus]

Ah, the source only was it.

Good to know.

 

Driver packages not used? Why do you say that?

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Andreas Hammarskjöld
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Juli 2016 08:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

And that only breaks something related to driver packages, which nobody seems 
to use anyhow.

 

//A

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: den 1 juli 2016 06:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

Nah, thats for the source.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 1 juli 2016 00:43
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

Isn’t there an issue or “not supported” statement about de-dupe for the DP?

 

-R

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Phil Wilcock
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2016 09:08
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

In Current Branch  fairly sure FOREGROUND is no longer used. Previously it was 
the default for user initiated downloads.

 

Policy wise – you should use the ‘Setup a Work Schedule’ and ‘Setup a 
Maintenance Schedule’ GPOs

 

You MUST enable the checkbox in the Work schedule that says ‘Ignore Bandwidth 
limits if source and destination are on the same subnet’. Otherwise local 
BranchCache transfers will happen at the throttled rate.

 

Also if you are on Win7 you need to make sure that you have 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2863374  or  BITS sometimes stops caring 
about Policy and goes full speed 

 

When setting a speed over 2048 Kbit/s set the policy to use Mb instead of Kb.

 

Finally, always enabled DeDupe on the DP – DeDupe + BranchCache rules!

 

Cheers

 

Senior

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: 29 June 2016 06:18
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

Think even FOREGROUND is gone after 2 BITS supporters ranted about it… Senior 
can you confirm?

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: den 29 juni 2016 01:40
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

You sure about this one. Isn’t it foreground if user initiated, background for 
deadline initiated?

 

J

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:12 PM
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

There are two BITS bandwidth policies, one for content retrieved from the 
server and another for content retrieved from a peer.  Limiting the server 
traffic is fine, but you’ll want the peer traffic to run at higher speed, since 
it doesn’t impact the rest of the network (just on that one segment).

 

Also note that these BITS policies only apply to background transfers, not 
foreground ones.  ConfigMgr “required” deployments use foreground BITS jobs, 
while “available” deployments use background BITS jobs.

 

Thanks,

-Michael

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Jay Marsett
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 2:44 AM
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

So much great feedback!

 

We were contemplating utilizing a pretty slow footprint for BITS policy, 1-2MB 
let's say, across the board, and then narrow that bandwidth further using 
networking equipment, where appropriate.  Anyone else doing something similar?

 

Thanks

 

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:29 AM, David Jones < <mailto:dkjones9...@gmail.com> 
dkjones9...@gmail.com> wrote:

6am-6pm 2mb, full at night

On Jun 28, 2016 9:50 AM, "Jimmy M

AW: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

[Roland Janus]

Isn’t there an issue or “not supported” statement about de-dupe for the DP?

 

-R

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Phil Wilcock
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2016 09:08
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

In Current Branch  fairly sure FOREGROUND is no longer used. Previously it was 
the default for user initiated downloads.

 

Policy wise – you should use the ‘Setup a Work Schedule’ and ‘Setup a 
Maintenance Schedule’ GPOs

 

You MUST enable the checkbox in the Work schedule that says ‘Ignore Bandwidth 
limits if source and destination are on the same subnet’. Otherwise local 
BranchCache transfers will happen at the throttled rate.

 

Also if you are on Win7 you need to make sure that you have 
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2863374  or  BITS sometimes stops caring 
about Policy and goes full speed 

 

When setting a speed over 2048 Kbit/s set the policy to use Mb instead of Kb.

 

Finally, always enabled DeDupe on the DP – DeDupe + BranchCache rules!

 

Cheers

 

Senior

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: 29 June 2016 06:18
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

Think even FOREGROUND is gone after 2 BITS supporters ranted about it… Senior 
can you confirm?

 

From:   listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
 mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: den 29 juni 2016 01:40
To:   mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

You sure about this one. Isn’t it foreground if user initiated, background for 
deadline initiated?

 

J

 

From:   listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
 mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 3:12 PM
To:   mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

There are two BITS bandwidth policies, one for content retrieved from the 
server and another for content retrieved from a peer.  Limiting the server 
traffic is fine, but you’ll want the peer traffic to run at higher speed, since 
it doesn’t impact the rest of the network (just on that one segment).

 

Also note that these BITS policies only apply to background transfers, not 
foreground ones.  ConfigMgr “required” deployments use foreground BITS jobs, 
while “available” deployments use background BITS jobs.

 

Thanks,

-Michael

 

From:   listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
 mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Jay Marsett
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 2:44 AM
To:   mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

So much great feedback!

 

We were contemplating utilizing a pretty slow footprint for BITS policy, 1-2MB 
let's say, across the board, and then narrow that bandwidth further using 
networking equipment, where appropriate.  Anyone else doing something similar?

 

Thanks

 

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:29 AM, David Jones <  
dkjones9...@gmail.com> wrote:

6am-6pm 2mb, full at night

On Jun 28, 2016 9:50 AM, "Jimmy Martin" <  
jimmy.mar...@bmhcc.org> wrote:

I know it’s highly dependent on underlying network capabilities, but what do 
you (collective you) use for your bits transfer rate settings?

 

Jimmy Martin
  (901) 227-8209

From:   listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:  
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David Jones
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 2:00 PM
To:   mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] BranchCache, ConfigMgr, and PRO Sku

 

That is exactly what we do. 35000 clients. Have had no complaints. But what 
does that mean in the big scheme? You could right click any client in the local 
network of all the sites and make them a DP. We were doing before Branchcache.

 

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Phil Wilcock < 
 ph...@2pintsoftware.com> wrote:

Works fine, PRO is supported and always has been, just do it!

 

 

AW: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

[Roland Janus]

Thanks for the info!

 

-roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im 
Auftrag von Juelich, Adam
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Juni 2016 22:20
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: Re: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

 

I support everything fully but not so much for Firefox.  That is implemented in 
a small lab for some Computer Science stuff and that image gets rebuilt each 
year.

 

The Group Policy options for Google Chrome and Google Update are quite good for 
managing.  You just have to update the templates pretty regularly and try not 
to fall behind too much on Chrome updates.




---

Adam Juelich

Pulaski Community School District <http://www.pulaskischools.org> 

Client Management Specialist

920-822-6075

 

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Also @Adam:

Like free choice and you support them with all content fully?

Isn’t that a hassle?

 

How good are the “control” features on Chrome or FF?

I know there are like unofficial policies for FF.

Do you even bother, maybe except proxy?

Can that be enforced?

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] Im Auftrag von Timothy Ransom
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Juni 2016 20:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: RE: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

 

We provide three browsers for all users - Chrome, Firefox, IE.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 4:32 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

 

Don’t want to hijack this, just a quick poll…

 

Is anyone using anything else then IE (or Edge) as a (standard) corporate 
browser?

How often do you need to provide an alternative?

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Troy Martin
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juni 2016 10:31
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

 

Although Google documents having an .msi installer to do “offline” installs of 
the browser, it still requires the device to have Internet access.  Apparently 
Chrome still needs to download bits over the Internet during the install.  In 
addition, I have not found an actual Chrome .msi for download that Google says 
exists.

 

1st request – Has anyone figured out how to install Chrome without having 
Internet access?

2nd request – Does there truly exist a Chrome .msi?  Not one that you may have 
created, but one that is downloaded from Google

 

Thanks :)

 

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1E | Software Lifecycle Automation for the Digital Business

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AW: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

[Roland Janus]

Also @Adam:

Like free choice and you support them with all content fully?

Isn't that a hassle?

 

How good are the "control" features on Chrome or FF?

I know there are like unofficial policies for FF.

Do you even bother, maybe except proxy?

Can that be enforced?

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Timothy Ransom
Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Juni 2016 20:57
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

 

We provide three browsers for all users - Chrome, Firefox, IE.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 4:32 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

 

Don't want to hijack this, just a quick poll.

 

Is anyone using anything else then IE (or Edge) as a (standard) corporate
browser?

How often do you need to provide an alternative?

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Troy Martin
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juni 2016 10:31
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

 

Although Google documents having an .msi installer to do "offline" installs
of the browser, it still requires the device to have Internet access.
Apparently Chrome still needs to download bits over the Internet during the
install.  In addition, I have not found an actual Chrome .msi for download
that Google says exists.

 

1st request - Has anyone figured out how to install Chrome without having
Internet access?

2nd request - Does there truly exist a Chrome .msi?  Not one that you may
have created, but one that is downloaded from Google

 

Thanks :)

 

Troy L. Martin | Technical Architect

1E | Software Lifecycle Automation for the Digital Business

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AW: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

[Roland Janus]

Don't want to hijack this, just a quick poll.

 

Is anyone using anything else then IE (or Edge) as a (standard) corporate
browser?

How often do you need to provide an alternative?

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Troy Martin
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Juni 2016 10:31
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: [mssms] A "true" offline silent install of Google Chrome

 

Although Google documents having an .msi installer to do "offline" installs
of the browser, it still requires the device to have Internet access.
Apparently Chrome still needs to download bits over the Internet during the
install.  In addition, I have not found an actual Chrome .msi for download
that Google says exists.

 

1st request - Has anyone figured out how to install Chrome without having
Internet access?

2nd request - Does there truly exist a Chrome .msi?  Not one that you may
have created, but one that is downloaded from Google

 

Thanks :)

 

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AW: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful Run

[Roland Janus]

We do refresh and still see the deployment afterwards (on 1511).

What happens if you de-install/repair the client?

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Mawdsley R.
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Mai 2016 10:41
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A
Successful Run

 

Yes I can see it deployed under that clients properties.

 

And yes, using Client Center Tool, I can see the advertisement to the
machine.

 

Seems there's a bug somewhere..  Anyone else able to test?

 

Thankyou

Rich

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Software & Desktop Services

iSolutions

University of Southampton

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From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: 26 May 2016 23:53
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: AW: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A
Successful Run

 

I guess you see the deployment in the client properties?

 

Use client center tool from R Zander to check if there is some info about it
in WMI.

 

-Roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Mawdsley R.
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Mai 2016 16:15
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Betreff: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

No, this Task Sequence would run a refresh scenario, which is what it ran
the first time around successfully.

 

Just the single record of it in SCCM.

 

It's very odd :-/.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Craig
Sent: 26 May 2016 14:21
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Did you OSD from bare metal? Do you have any duplicate records for this
machine in Devices?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mawdsley R.
Sent: 26 May 2016 14:57
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Yes, that's checked by default on Available task sequences..  Only on
Required do you have the option to change it.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Craig
Sent: 26 May 2016 13:32
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Have you checked the Deployment Settings are set to Allow Users to run
independently of assignment? 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mawdsley R.
Sent: 26 May 2016 14:16
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Yes, everything else is showing up fine, and I've since deployed something
else to it also which worked as expected.

 

This machine is a direct rule in the collection.  Other machines in the
collection which are yet to run the TS, can also see it in software center.

 

It's as if its saying 'Well, I've already run that once fine, so you won't
want to do it again, I'll hide it."

 

Thankyou

Rich Mawdsley

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Schwan, Phil
Sent: 26 May 2016 13:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Couple questions: Are other deployed items (Apps, etc.) appearing in
Software Center?  What are the collection rules for the collection to which
the TS is deployed?

 

-Phil

 

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AW: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful Run

[Roland Janus]

I guess you see the deployment in the client properties?

 

Use client center tool from R Zander to check if there is some info about it
in WMI.

 

-Roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Mawdsley R.
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Mai 2016 16:15
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

No, this Task Sequence would run a refresh scenario, which is what it ran
the first time around successfully.

 

Just the single record of it in SCCM.

 

It's very odd :-/.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Craig
Sent: 26 May 2016 14:21
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Did you OSD from bare metal? Do you have any duplicate records for this
machine in Devices?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mawdsley R.
Sent: 26 May 2016 14:57
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Yes, that's checked by default on Available task sequences..  Only on
Required do you have the option to change it.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Craig
Sent: 26 May 2016 13:32
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Have you checked the Deployment Settings are set to Allow Users to run
independently of assignment? 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mawdsley R.
Sent: 26 May 2016 14:16
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Yes, everything else is showing up fine, and I've since deployed something
else to it also which worked as expected.

 

This machine is a direct rule in the collection.  Other machines in the
collection which are yet to run the TS, can also see it in software center.

 

It's as if its saying 'Well, I've already run that once fine, so you won't
want to do it again, I'll hide it."

 

Thankyou

Rich Mawdsley

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Schwan, Phil
Sent: 26 May 2016 13:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] RE: Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful
Run

 

Couple questions: Are other deployed items (Apps, etc.) appearing in
Software Center?  What are the collection rules for the collection to which
the TS is deployed?

 

-Phil

 

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Microsoft VTSP (b-phs...@microsoft.com  )

Project Leadership Associates | 2000 Town Center, Suite 1900, Southfield, MI
48075

Lync: 312.756.1626  Mobile: 419.262.5133

  www.projectleadership.net
  
 

Lead with Strategy. Leverage Technology. Deliver Results.

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mawdsley R.
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 4:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] Available Task Sequence Not Showing After A Successful Run

 

Morning All,

 

I've an Available Task Sequence deployed to a machine.  I ran this task
sequence on the machine via Software Center and it completed successfully,
rebuilding the OS.

 

Now however, in Software Center, it no longer shows.. Not as available or
installed despite the fact it is still deployed.

 

I want it to always be available to the machine so a user can go to Software
Center and run it again, regardless of if it has run previously.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thankyou

Rich Mawdsley

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AW: [mssms] Adobe Reader DC update command

[Roland Janus]

We just went through that, we only install the new version, it takes care of
removing the old by itself.

 

-Roland

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von David McSpadden
Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Mai 2016 19:49
An: Patch Management Mailing List
(patchmanagem...@listserv.patchmanagement.org)
; mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: [mssms] Adobe Reader DC update command

 

Is this wrong for an application command to update Adobe Reader DC to the
latest update?

 

msiexec /i "\\120314VMWU1201\Sources\apps\Adobe\Reader
DC\AcroRdr20151500630173_MUI\AcroRead.msi
 " /Update "\\120314VMWU1201\Sources\apps\Adobe\Reader
DC\AcroRdr20151500630173_MUI\AcroRdr2015Upd1500630173_.MUI.msp
 " TRANSFORMS="AcroRead.MST

 

 

 

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AW: [mssms] Application installs not happening automatically

[Roland Janus]

I'm on 1511 and was also surprised to not see the deployment starting. Had
to change the deployment evaluation schedule.

Figured must be something just for that deployment, but now.

 

No one else?

 

 

Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
Im Auftrag von Troy Martin
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Mai 2016 20:05
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: [mssms] Application installs not happening automatically

 

I've noticed on two ConfigMgr 1602 environments that application installs
are not occurring automatically and (near) immediately after/once the client
downloads policy.  The only way to have the application installs begin is to
trigger an Application Deployment Evaluation Cycle client action.  Once
done, the install begins immediately.  During my evaluation and testing of
this behavior, I've purposely waited a couple of days on about 10 clients
before triggering the client action.

 

However, if deploying a legacy package to the same devices, those begin the
installs (near) immediately after receiving policy.  I've only seen this
with Applications.

 

Of the two sites where this behavior is occurring, one is a (lab) new 1602
install and the other is an (production/live) 2012->1511->1602 migration.

 

Anyone else seeing this in their environment(s)?

 

 

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RE: [mssms] MDTDB.psm1, change existing entry

[Roland Janus]

Bump?

 

Maybe Michael?

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Dienstag, 24. März 2015 13:10
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] MDTDB.psm1, change existing entry

 

I couldn’t figure out if there is a cmdlet to change the identity of an
existing record, such as assettag or MACAddress.

There isn’t right, only the settings can be changed?

 

Something like: get-mdtcomputer -id 3 | set-mdtcomputer -Macaddress
“00:11:22:33:44:55”

 

Do I have to delete and create a new one instead?

 

 

-R

 

 

[mssms] MDTDB.psm1, change existing entry

[Roland Janus]

I couldn't figure out if there is a cmdlet to change the identity of an
existing record, such as assettag or MACAddress.

There isn't right, only the settings can be changed?

 

Something like: get-mdtcomputer -id 3 | set-mdtcomputer -Macaddress
"00:11:22:33:44:55"

 

Do I have to delete and create a new one instead?

 

 

-R

 

RE: [mssms] RE: Monitor Variables

[Roland Janus]

Or this :D

 

https://janusroland.wordpress.com/2014/04/09/pausing-an-sccm-task-sequence-b
ut-a-bit-different/

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of James Avery
Sent: Montag, 23. März 2015 23:08
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Monitor Variables

 

Matt, look at this.

 

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2012/06/20/how-to-list-task-sequence-enviro
nment-variables-and-values/

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Bradley, Matt
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 4:47 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] Monitor Variables

 

Is it possible to somehow monitor or check variables values while a task
sequence is running?  I’m using an .hta file for deployment, and I have an
application that needs to install when a particular variable has a certain
value, and it isn’t working.  I’d like some way to test that the variable is
at least holding the value I expect.

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] Delete stale DP, was Restore DP

[Roland Janus]

That should work.

 

Thanks!

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Art Flores
Sent: Montag, 16. März 2015 19:11
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Delete stale DP, was Restore DP

 

I had a Server DP that was removed from the network before I could uninstall it 
from the SCCM hierarchy (CM12 SP1 CU3), the following 2 links helped me get it 
deleted.

 

SCCM 2012: Removing a site system from the console that is no longer online

http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/2013/01/17/sccm-2012-removing-a-site-system-from-the-console-that-is-no-longer-online/

 

Removing a Site System Server in Configuration Manager 2012 SP1 – The server 
cannot be deleted because it contains the following site system roles: 
component server

http://damonjohns.com/2013/08/16/removing-a-site-system-server-in-configuration-manager-2012-sp1-the-server-cannot-be-deleted-because-it-contains-the-following-site-system-roles-component-server/

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 4:10 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Delete stale DP, was Restore DP

 

How would some delete a stale DP, where the site server refuses to do anything 
on that box because there isn’t anything on that box or that box is plain dead?

 

I need to delete the broken DP from CM12 (R2, cu4)

 

My google magic didn’t show anything for CM12.

Some delete statements for CM07, still good?

 

-R

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Samstag, 14. März 2015 13:01
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Basically you’re saying, if  the OS of the DP dies, there is no way removing it 
easy.

Deleting from the DB is the only choice and the already available content is of 
no use.

Full new install and prestage would be needed.

 

It’s much easier to rebuild a failed primary then a DP :)

 

Alright then

 

Thanks, roland

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Samstag, 14. März 2015 05:01
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Delete it from the database,  I think I used it once. 

I know I did that once, removed the role and deleted the server without the 
removal finishing. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 8:22 PM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

I wish.

Removing fails with an error, the site system stays, as long as that’s there it 
can’t be deleted.

Only once the DP and in this case the statemigration point is removed, the site 
system is removed, then I can delete the server.

 

Can’t go back and forth. Not a problem, I revert and start over, it’s just a 
lab.

 

But I’m still wondering what the procedure for a failed OS on a DP is?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Samstag, 14. März 2015 02:42
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Remove the role and delete the site system with 2012 you do not need to wait 
for removal success. 

I want to say that you can even delete the site system directly but not sure. 
It has been a while since I ran that exercise. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 8:12 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Using prestage means getting the whole content to a server having that already, 
although extracted.

Not really sufficient and even less on real remote connections.

I really like to avoid that if it happens.

 

I’ve reverted the vm of the DP to a OS only, installed roles and features etc. 
and added the DP again using PS.

The site server doesn’t like that at all.

I now have a DP I can’t remove or add anymore.

No problem in the lab, I revert both and start over.

 

But how to handle a remote DP when the OS fails and it has to be installed from 
scratch?

Ignoring the content for now.

 

What will the site server do if roles are tried to  be removed from the DP 
which aren’t there?

 

 

 

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Sent: Freitag, 13. März 2015 15:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Prestage is your best bet and only verification is run. 

It

[mssms] Delete stale DP, was Restore DP

[Roland Janus]

How would some delete a stale DP, where the site server refuses to do anything 
on that box because there isn’t anything on that box or that box is plain dead?

 

I need to delete the broken DP from CM12 (R2, cu4)

 

My google magic didn’t show anything for CM12.

Some delete statements for CM07, still good?

 

-R

 

 

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Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Samstag, 14. März 2015 13:01
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Basically you’re saying, if  the OS of the DP dies, there is no way removing it 
easy.

Deleting from the DB is the only choice and the already available content is of 
no use.

Full new install and prestage would be needed.

 

It’s much easier to rebuild a failed primary then a DP :)

 

Alright then

 

Thanks, roland

 

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Sent: Samstag, 14. März 2015 05:01
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Delete it from the database,  I think I used it once. 

I know I did that once, removed the role and deleted the server without the 
removal finishing. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 8:22 PM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

I wish.

Removing fails with an error, the site system stays, as long as that’s there it 
can’t be deleted.

Only once the DP and in this case the statemigration point is removed, the site 
system is removed, then I can delete the server.

 

Can’t go back and forth. Not a problem, I revert and start over, it’s just a 
lab.

 

But I’m still wondering what the procedure for a failed OS on a DP is?

 

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Sent: Samstag, 14. März 2015 02:42
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Remove the role and delete the site system with 2012 you do not need to wait 
for removal success. 

I want to say that you can even delete the site system directly but not sure. 
It has been a while since I ran that exercise. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 8:12 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Using prestage means getting the whole content to a server having that already, 
although extracted.

Not really sufficient and even less on real remote connections.

I really like to avoid that if it happens.

 

I’ve reverted the vm of the DP to a OS only, installed roles and features etc. 
and added the DP again using PS.

The site server doesn’t like that at all.

I now have a DP I can’t remove or add anymore.

No problem in the lab, I revert both and start over.

 

But how to handle a remote DP when the OS fails and it has to be installed from 
scratch?

Ignoring the content for now.

 

What will the site server do if roles are tried to  be removed from the DP 
which aren’t there?

 

 

 

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] On Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Freitag, 13. März 2015 15:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Prestage is your best bet and only verification is run. 

It a good test to run. Have the content in the same structure and replicate the 
content (one package) and see if only verifies for bits. I'm assuming it will 
try to re copy the content due to WMI info of the content not found and/or 
library binary pointers to files. Maybe I will run this test in my lab and 
check transfer logs. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 3:42 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

There isn’t anything official on how to do that, right?

 

Assuming the OS dies, the content (volume) is still available.

What’s the procedure while avoiding sending everything again? it’s already 
there.

 

Re-install the OS and then?

The DP is still in CM, but not installed anymore. Remove and add?

 

What about the content?

With prestage content I would still need to get the content there.

Contenttransferlibrary.exe?

 

Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] "Move" SQL Drive and Content Drive on Primary Site Server

[Roland Janus]

1+ to everything, especially on the admin point…

 

But if the site is mall, like ours, 1000 clients, as Jason mentioned, it’s
not worth splitting the DB files on separate volumes.

Enough IO one the volume assumed.

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Freitag, 13. März 2015 16:09
To: mssms
Subject: Re: [mssms] "Move" SQL Drive and Content Drive on Primary Site
Server

 

FWIW, whenever I find myself in a situation like this, I create a new larger
VHD, leave it un-partitioned, then use Windows disk manager to turn the
original VHD into a mirrored drive with the new drive, let it sync (this
makes sure everything is copied exactly), then break the mirror and assign
the old drive letter to the new drive. Then use native Windows to expand the
new drive to it's full capacity. Of course, stop all services prior to this
and you may want to even do it in safe mode.

 

Just as an aside, that consultant should never be hired again. Partitioning
a single drive like that is pretty stupid on a server IMO and I can see
absolutely no benefit to it in our age of virtual disks. Really, really poor
practice. The whole reason to put SQL on separate disks is to gain I/O
benefits by placing those disks on better tiers of storage and keeping logs
separate from data. If you are leaving it all on one disk and partitioning
it, you have gained nothing other than just simply separating it.

 

If you have a huge content store, then it makes sense to keep it on a
generic file server instead of the SCCM server.  Ours is small at ~300GB and
I've always kept it on the SCCM server and copying it over when upgrading to
CM 2012 wasn't an issue.  To be honest, the only reason I keep it on the
SCCM server is to ensure some other admin doesn't mess with it on the file
server or accidentally share it out to anyone, but that's just my personal
idiosyncrasy, lol

 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Ryan mailto:ryan2...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Best practices for ConfigMgr 2012 is to keep SQL on the primary unless you
have over 50,000 clients. Really, you should be able to always keep SQL on
your primary, but Microsoft documentation says move it off box after 50,000.



 

 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Merenda, Kenneth mailto:kenneth.mere...@fmcti.com> > wrote:

>From a best practices POV, I’ve always been told to keep SQL off of the
primary site server.   Not sure how to move it.

 

For the content, you should try to move it off the server to a generic file
server.  The reason for this is future upgrades to SCCM.  The SCCM 2007 to
2012 migration did not move package content, but rather linked the 2007
packages in 2012.  So, if you had the 2007 packages on your 2007 site
server, you had to keep that server alive even after you retired the 2007
SCCM environment.

 

If you host all your content on a generic network share (ex:
\\companyfileserver\sccmcontent  ),
then no big deal when you need to migrate to new SCCM.  Also, adding space
to a LUN on the file server would be much easier than what you are currently
faced with.

 

Kenneth Merenda

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 ] On Behalf Of Sean Pomeroy
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 7:49 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] "Move" SQL Drive and Content Drive on Primary Site Server

 

The consultant that setup our SCCM implementation decided to use a single
VHD with multiple partitions for the content and SQL drives. We are now
nearly out of space on the content drive, which is of course the first
partition on the drive.

 

There is plenty of free space in the middle and at the end of the drive.



 

So my question is:

 

Am I better off using a partition tool to move the free space around to make
it available to the Content drive?

 

-or-

 

Should i create separate VHDs and move the Content, SQL and Logs partitions
to their own drive.

These would have to use the synthetic SCSI interface in HyperV(2008R2) which
I am to understand could impose a performance hit.

 

If the later, what is the best way to do that?

Stop SQL and SCCM services...

Move files to new drives...

Change drive letters of new drives to match that of the old and restart
services?

 

Thanks,

Sean

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] Restore DP

[Roland Janus]

Basically you’re saying, if  the OS of the DP dies, there is no way removing it 
easy.

Deleting from the DB is the only choice and the already available content is of 
no use.

Full new install and prestage would be needed.

 

It’s much easier to rebuild a failed primary then a DP :)

 

Alright then

 

Thanks, roland

 

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Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Samstag, 14. März 2015 05:01
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Delete it from the database,  I think I used it once. 

I know I did that once, removed the role and deleted the server without the 
removal finishing. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 8:22 PM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

I wish.

Removing fails with an error, the site system stays, as long as that’s there it 
can’t be deleted.

Only once the DP and in this case the statemigration point is removed, the site 
system is removed, then I can delete the server.

 

Can’t go back and forth. Not a problem, I revert and start over, it’s just a 
lab.

 

But I’m still wondering what the procedure for a failed OS on a DP is?

 

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Sent: Samstag, 14. März 2015 02:42
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Remove the role and delete the site system with 2012 you do not need to wait 
for removal success. 

I want to say that you can even delete the site system directly but not sure. 
It has been a while since I ran that exercise. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 8:12 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Using prestage means getting the whole content to a server having that already, 
although extracted.

Not really sufficient and even less on real remote connections.

I really like to avoid that if it happens.

 

I’ve reverted the vm of the DP to a OS only, installed roles and features etc. 
and added the DP again using PS.

The site server doesn’t like that at all.

I now have a DP I can’t remove or add anymore.

No problem in the lab, I revert both and start over.

 

But how to handle a remote DP when the OS fails and it has to be installed from 
scratch?

Ignoring the content for now.

 

What will the site server do if roles are tried to  be removed from the DP 
which aren’t there?

 

 

 

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] On Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Freitag, 13. März 2015 15:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Prestage is your best bet and only verification is run. 

It a good test to run. Have the content in the same structure and replicate the 
content (one package) and see if only verifies for bits. I'm assuming it will 
try to re copy the content due to WMI info of the content not found and/or 
library binary pointers to files. Maybe I will run this test in my lab and 
check transfer logs. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 3:42 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

There isn’t anything official on how to do that, right?

 

Assuming the OS dies, the content (volume) is still available.

What’s the procedure while avoiding sending everything again? it’s already 
there.

 

Re-install the OS and then?

The DP is still in CM, but not installed anymore. Remove and add?

 

What about the content?

With prestage content I would still need to get the content there.

Contenttransferlibrary.exe?

 

Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] Restore DP

[Roland Janus]

I wish.

Removing fails with an error, the site system stays, as long as that’s there it 
can’t be deleted.

Only once the DP and in this case the statemigration point is removed, the site 
system is removed, then I can delete the server.

 

Can’t go back and forth. Not a problem, I revert and start over, it’s just a 
lab.

 

But I’m still wondering what the procedure for a failed OS on a DP is?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Samstag, 14. März 2015 02:42
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Remove the role and delete the site system with 2012 you do not need to wait 
for removal success. 

I want to say that you can even delete the site system directly but not sure. 
It has been a while since I ran that exercise. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 8:12 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Using prestage means getting the whole content to a server having that already, 
although extracted.

Not really sufficient and even less on real remote connections.

I really like to avoid that if it happens.

 

I’ve reverted the vm of the DP to a OS only, installed roles and features etc. 
and added the DP again using PS.

The site server doesn’t like that at all.

I now have a DP I can’t remove or add anymore.

No problem in the lab, I revert both and start over.

 

But how to handle a remote DP when the OS fails and it has to be installed from 
scratch?

Ignoring the content for now.

 

What will the site server do if roles are tried to  be removed from the DP 
which aren’t there?

 

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Freitag, 13. März 2015 15:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Prestage is your best bet and only verification is run. 

It a good test to run. Have the content in the same structure and replicate the 
content (one package) and see if only verifies for bits. I'm assuming it will 
try to re copy the content due to WMI info of the content not found and/or 
library binary pointers to files. Maybe I will run this test in my lab and 
check transfer logs. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 3:42 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

There isn’t anything official on how to do that, right?

 

Assuming the OS dies, the content (volume) is still available.

What’s the procedure while avoiding sending everything again? it’s already 
there.

 

Re-install the OS and then?

The DP is still in CM, but not installed anymore. Remove and add?

 

What about the content?

With prestage content I would still need to get the content there.

Contenttransferlibrary.exe?

 

Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] Excluding Known Multi-Reboot Updates during a ZTI Deployment

[Roland Janus]

What am I missing here?

That sounds like a lot of effort for a few occurrences.

 

How about that?

 

Identify them, deploy to already installed clients. That works right?

For Create and Capture it isn’t an issue, hence ZTI doesn’t need a change once 
the used image is updated.

 

For ZTI, before the image was updated, inject those offline before “software 
updates”. runs

 

No need to touch or change update procedure or skip “software update”.

Handling those as an exception and not everything else because of them?

 

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Behalf Of Sean Pomeroy
Sent: Freitag, 13. März 2015 14:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Excluding Known Multi-Reboot Updates during a ZTI 
Deployment

 

It adds them to all to a task sequence variable.

Then ZTIWindowsUpdate parses that variable and ignores all patches that are 
listed.

 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:53 AM Marcum, John mailto:jmar...@babc.com> > wrote:

So how are you guys excluding the updates? I understand that this will figure 
out which ones are double reboot updates but then what?

 

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] On Behalf Of Sean Pomeroy
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:41 AM


To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] Excluding Known Multi-Reboot Updates during a ZTI 
Deployment

 

If it works, you could throw the following into the top of that PS script:

#Create HKCU values

if (!(Test-Path -Path 'HKCU:\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet 
Explorer\Main')) {New-Item -Path 'HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Internet 
Explorer' -Name Main}

New-ItemProperty -Path 'HKCU:\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet 
Explorer\Main' -Name DisableFirstRunCustomize -PropertyType DWord -Value 1 
-Force

if (!(Test-Path -Path 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main')) 
{New-Item -Path 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main' -Name Main}

New-ItemProperty -Path 'HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main' -Name 
DisableFirstRunCustomize -PropertyType DWord -Value 1 -Force

 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:30 AM Daniel Ratliff mailto:dratl...@humana.com> > wrote:

Straight from our build and capture, for easy reference if you want to test it 
out.

 

%windir%\system32\reg.exe add "HKLM\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet 
Explorer\Main" /t REG_DWORD /v DisableFirstRunCustomize /d 1 /f

 

Daniel Ratliff

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com  
] On Behalf Of Sean Pomeroy
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:26 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] Excluding Known Multi-Reboot Updates during a ZTI 
Deployment

 

I bet it has to do with that IE first run wizard.
Wonder if disabling it via the registry key beforehand would fix it.

 

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 8:44 AM Steve Whitcher mailto:st...@whitcher.org> > wrote:

This recent post on The Deployment Guys blog suggests a way to keep an OSD task 
sequence from installing updates that are known to break task sequences because 
they require multiple reboots.  

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/deploymentguys/archive/2015/03/11/excluding-known-multi-reboot-updates-during-a-zti-deployment.aspx

 

That sounds like a great idea, much better than manually tracking the updates 
and maintaining separate collections and deployments just for those.  I decided 
to give it a shot.  Unfortunately, I'm getting an error in the log file for the 
CheckBadKB script.  

 

I posted a comment on the blog with the error, but thought I'd share it here as 
well in hopes someone might have run into something like this before.  Here's 
what I get in the checkbadkb.log: 

 



The response content cannot be parsed because the Internet Explorer engine is 
not available, or Internet Explorer's first-launch configuration is not 
complete. Specify the UseBasicParsing parameter and try again. 

NotImplemented: (:) [Invoke-WebRequest], NotSupportedException

TSHOST: Script completed with return code 0



 

The message seems pretty clear, that IE is not available or configured yet, but 
I'm not sure when that changes.  (The script runs fine in the full OSE 
immediately after OSD completes, without my ever having launched IE.)  
Unfortunately, the suggestion of adding the "UseBasicParsing" switch seems to 
be incompatible with this particular script.  

 

Any suggestions?

 

 

 


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RE: [mssms] Restore DP

[Roland Janus]

Using prestage means getting the whole content to a server having that already, 
although extracted.

Not really sufficient and even less on real remote connections.

I really like to avoid that if it happens.

 

I’ve reverted the vm of the DP to a OS only, installed roles and features etc. 
and added the DP again using PS.

The site server doesn’t like that at all.

I now have a DP I can’t remove or add anymore.

No problem in the lab, I revert both and start over.

 

But how to handle a remote DP when the OS fails and it has to be installed from 
scratch?

Ignoring the content for now.

 

What will the site server do if roles are tried to  be removed from the DP 
which aren’t there?

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Freitag, 13. März 2015 15:56
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Restore DP

 

Prestage is your best bet and only verification is run. 

It a good test to run. Have the content in the same structure and replicate the 
content (one package) and see if only verifies for bits. I'm assuming it will 
try to re copy the content due to WMI info of the content not found and/or 
library binary pointers to files. Maybe I will run this test in my lab and 
check transfer logs. 

Cesar A

On Mar 13, 2015 3:42 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

There isn’t anything official on how to do that, right?

 

Assuming the OS dies, the content (volume) is still available.

What’s the procedure while avoiding sending everything again? it’s already 
there.

 

Re-install the OS and then?

The DP is still in CM, but not installed anymore. Remove and add?

 

What about the content?

With prestage content I would still need to get the content there.

Contenttransferlibrary.exe?

 

Roland

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

[Roland Janus]

Sadly that’s not the case.

Once approved, the user can currently always install again.

 

The only thing I found so far was editing the DB, setting the flag,
obviously not supported.

 

Other solutions use requirements for every app.

That is just a workaround and involves quite a few steps of operational
work.

 

I’d like to see right click to an approved entry and select “clear” or
whatever .

Doesn’t look that complicated to implement.

 

No one filed a change request yet?

 

 

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On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Freitag, 13. März 2015 13:39
To: mssms
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

Not sure, I'd have to test it, but my gut says that you would have to run
the uninstall for the package. And and any reinstalls would also need
approval

On Mar 13, 2015 7:29 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Bump?

 

No way to un-approve?

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2015 00:44
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

I was thinking of using all users for the majority and hoping they behave
themselves.

For all others still all users and approval. It should be fine having the
service desk doing it.

Maybe there is a nice status event which could trigger a mail, but let them
handle those.

 

But once it is approved you can’t un-approve at all?

What’s the solution then? None? 

 

-R

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2015 00:22
To: mssms
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

FWIW, i highly recommend converting them to apps. There's a tool that will
do 90% of the conversion for you.  We resisted too for a while but
eventually did it and never use packages anymore because apps are so much
nicer and more effective.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrdogs/archive/2012/04/28/package-conversi
on-manager-pcm-in-configmgr-2012.aspx

 

 

Also, we had to make the same decision---either a collection for each app or
deploying the app to multiple user role-based collections.  For instance
even if you define user roles, you will still have plenty of overlap I'm
sure.  Let's say you having marketing, finance, research groups.  Marketing
and research get App A, but not Finance.  You still have to create two
advertisements, one for the marketing group and one for the finance group.
With 1,000 app out there, this could get crazy quick. We bit the bullet and
created a collection for most apps, create one advertisement to that
collection, then add collections containing users or computers to it as
necessary.  Which is another reason we decided to deploy many apps to All
Users as "Available", but I know that's not the route you want to go right
now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Atkinson, Matt T
mailto:matt.atkin...@providence.org> > wrote:

Thanks for all the great discussion. I really like the idea of deploying to
all users and requiring admin approval. The issue with that is we are just
finishing up migration from 2007 and all of our software is built as
packages. Converting them to apps would probably be a pretty large body of
work.

 

I’d wager that AD groups for the computers will be the way we wind up going,
I just hate the delay between adding to the group, AD discovery, and finally
collection evaluation. 

 

Anyone found a good way of working around this? Incremental updates won’t
work as this will probably need close to 1k collections :(.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Greg Thomas
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 5:13 PM
To: Robert Spinelli
Cc: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

I use PowerShell to create the AD groups based on apps, create and populate
the collections based on the AD groups, and then deploy the app to those
collections. You might be surprised how few lines of code it is.

Give it a shot. 

On Mar 7, 2015 10:11 AM, Robert Spinelli mailto:rspinell...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I wish there was a way to make it only show the apps that the user should
have access to instead of all the apps (that don’t need a license) in app
catalog.

 

Issue I see with this is people just going into the App Catalog and be like
this seems like I might use this one app someday, and they install bunch of
apps they neve

RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

[Roland Janus]

Bump?

 

No way to un-approve?

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2015 00:44
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

I was thinking of using all users for the majority and hoping they behave
themselves.

For all others still all users and approval. It should be fine having the
service desk doing it.

Maybe there is a nice status event which could trigger a mail, but let them
handle those.

 

But once it is approved you can’t un-approve at all?

What’s the solution then? None? 

 

-R

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2015 00:22
To: mssms
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

FWIW, i highly recommend converting them to apps. There's a tool that will
do 90% of the conversion for you.  We resisted too for a while but
eventually did it and never use packages anymore because apps are so much
nicer and more effective.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrdogs/archive/2012/04/28/package-conversi
on-manager-pcm-in-configmgr-2012.aspx

 

 

Also, we had to make the same decision---either a collection for each app or
deploying the app to multiple user role-based collections.  For instance
even if you define user roles, you will still have plenty of overlap I'm
sure.  Let's say you having marketing, finance, research groups.  Marketing
and research get App A, but not Finance.  You still have to create two
advertisements, one for the marketing group and one for the finance group.
With 1,000 app out there, this could get crazy quick. We bit the bullet and
created a collection for most apps, create one advertisement to that
collection, then add collections containing users or computers to it as
necessary.  Which is another reason we decided to deploy many apps to All
Users as "Available", but I know that's not the route you want to go right
now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Atkinson, Matt T
mailto:matt.atkin...@providence.org> > wrote:

Thanks for all the great discussion. I really like the idea of deploying to
all users and requiring admin approval. The issue with that is we are just
finishing up migration from 2007 and all of our software is built as
packages. Converting them to apps would probably be a pretty large body of
work.

 

I’d wager that AD groups for the computers will be the way we wind up going,
I just hate the delay between adding to the group, AD discovery, and finally
collection evaluation. 

 

Anyone found a good way of working around this? Incremental updates won’t
work as this will probably need close to 1k collections :(.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Greg Thomas
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 5:13 PM
To: Robert Spinelli
Cc: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

I use PowerShell to create the AD groups based on apps, create and populate
the collections based on the AD groups, and then deploy the app to those
collections. You might be surprised how few lines of code it is.

Give it a shot. 

On Mar 7, 2015 10:11 AM, Robert Spinelli mailto:rspinell...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I wish there was a way to make it only show the apps that the user should
have access to instead of all the apps (that don’t need a license) in app
catalog.

 

Issue I see with this is people just going into the App Catalog and be like
this seems like I might use this one app someday, and they install bunch of
apps they never need.  We have about 1k apps, the typical user needs maybe
50.  We have roles that we group the apps in (ex: secretary) so they are
only able to install the 50 apps they need.  I’m working thru the design now
on this, since were doing this using another product and moving over to SCCM
2012.  The only way to get this functional is have a collection, AD group,
and target that app to that collection.  We’ll end up with 1k collections (1
per app) which I’m not thrilled with.  It would have been great if I could
of targeted the app to all users (not having to create 1k collections) and
have the 50 apps the secretary needs show up in App Catalog by having the
requirement rules check the AD group the user is in.

 

Good thread though why you shouldn’t use requirement rules / AD groups for
targeting.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/3a737afa-26e8-4881-9105-a9
c42055ca67/how-to-create-a-global-condition-based-on-computersusers-active-d
irectory-group

MS has pushed SCCM 2012 saying you don’t need as many collections, but until
they allow you to do something like ab

[mssms] Restore DP

[Roland Janus]

There isn't anything official on how to do that, right?

 

Assuming the OS dies, the content (volume) is still available.

What's the procedure while avoiding sending everything again? it's already
there.

 

Re-install the OS and then?

The DP is still in CM, but not installed anymore. Remove and add?

 

What about the content?

With prestage content I would still need to get the content there.

Contenttransferlibrary.exe?

 

Roland

 

 

 

SOLVED: RE: [mssms] After Restore: Unable to find PKI certificate matching SCCM certificate selection criteria. 0x87d00283

[Roland Janus]

Solved.

 

My scripted installation had this enabled by default.

 

 



 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. März 2015 18:25
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] After Restore: Unable to find PKI certificate matching
SCCM certificate selection criteria. 0x87d00283

 

This is http only.

Somehow I get the feeling it doesn’t mean anything?

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. März 2015 17:49
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] After Restore: Unable to find PKI certificate matching SCCM
certificate selection criteria. 0x87d00283

 

I’ve wanted to test my restore procedure in the lab. Well it almost works
perfectly…

 

CM12R2 CU4, single primary installation.

Some basic configuration, one package to test with and one client, all works
fine.

 

I backup the DB (SQL only),  the content library and the encryption key for
SQL reporting.

 

I thought that this should be enough

 

Then:

I kill the complete server (revert VM to a plain OS before any installation)

Fresh install, new DB

Preinst /stopsite

Restore the DB’s from a SQL backup, overwrite existing

Restore content

Do a Site recovery, selecting to use manually restored DB.

 

The server looks fine, but that client I’m testing with now throws that
error.

 

Unable to find PKI certificate matching SCCM certificate selection criteria.
0x87d00283

 

It seems to work, software dist, inventory goes up, just that error.

 

Obviously something cert related. I didn’t have the impression I would need
to do something with that for backup or restore.

What am I missing?

 

-roland

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] After Restore: Unable to find PKI certificate matching SCCM certificate selection criteria. 0x87d00283

[Roland Janus]

This is http only.

Somehow I get the feeling it doesn’t mean anything?

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. März 2015 17:49
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] After Restore: Unable to find PKI certificate matching SCCM
certificate selection criteria. 0x87d00283

 

I’ve wanted to test my restore procedure in the lab. Well it almost works
perfectly…

 

CM12R2 CU4, single primary installation.

Some basic configuration, one package to test with and one client, all works
fine.

 

I backup the DB (SQL only),  the content library and the encryption key for
SQL reporting.

 

I thought that this should be enough

 

Then:

I kill the complete server (revert VM to a plain OS before any installation)

Fresh install, new DB

Preinst /stopsite

Restore the DB’s from a SQL backup, overwrite existing

Restore content

Do a Site recovery, selecting to use manually restored DB.

 

The server looks fine, but that client I’m testing with now throws that
error.

 

Unable to find PKI certificate matching SCCM certificate selection criteria.
0x87d00283

 

It seems to work, software dist, inventory goes up, just that error.

 

Obviously something cert related. I didn’t have the impression I would need
to do something with that for backup or restore.

What am I missing?

 

-roland

 

 

 

[mssms] After Restore: Unable to find PKI certificate matching SCCM certificate selection criteria. 0x87d00283

[Roland Janus]

I've wanted to test my restore procedure in the lab. Well it almost works
perfectly.

 

CM12R2 CU4, single primary installation.

Some basic configuration, one package to test with and one client, all works
fine.

 

I backup the DB (SQL only),  the content library and the encryption key for
SQL reporting.

 

I thought that this should be enough

 

Then:

I kill the complete server (revert VM to a plain OS before any installation)

Fresh install, new DB

Preinst /stopsite

Restore the DB's from a SQL backup, overwrite existing

Restore content

Do a Site recovery, selecting to use manually restored DB.

 

The server looks fine, but that client I'm testing with now throws that
error.

 

Unable to find PKI certificate matching SCCM certificate selection criteria.
0x87d00283

 

It seems to work, software dist, inventory goes up, just that error.

 

Obviously something cert related. I didn't have the impression I would need
to do something with that for backup or restore.



What am I missing?

 

-roland

 

 

RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

[Roland Janus]

There you go. Add a SSD to everything and you should be able skip one “class”. 
No?

i7 to i5 saved us 100 bucks.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2015 20:24
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

Our “best” doesn’t include SSD’s, and 8GB is the norm for them. Believe me, 
these aren’t powerhouse systems.  :)

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 12:55 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

That’s the issue with that approach, good, better, best.

Even good is practically way too good for 98 % off all users and they would be 
happy for sure with whatever business model is available today.

Core-i5, 8GB RAM, SSD. Standard more or less but no, they ask for 16G, core-i7 
without having a clue.

 

Management isn’t listening either, hence dozens of models to support

 

And then they  have a computer with an actual 5%CPU and 3GB memory usage.

SSD is the only real performance boost people really want.

 

All our new models (HP) are i5, 8GB, 256 SSD.

With 2 sizes for notebooks and one desktop, that’s it.

 

-Roland

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 01:06
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

I wish, we’re on a tight budget. We select 3 desktop and laptop models (good, 
better, best) each year for people to choose from  (and we get good pricing on 
them), so we may have 6 new models each year. The problem is, we will have 
computers 6 years old or more still around. So that makes for a lot of models.  
:/

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:00 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

Obviously you must have tons of money to waste, that’s what that usually is 
called…

 

-Roland

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 23:18
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

One of the great(?) things about working in Higher Ed. It’s difficult to tell 
people what they *have* to use. At least we’re managing them. That took forever 
to get approved by the million or so committees we have to go through.  :)

 

Mike

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rickym61
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:56 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

Exactly what I thought when I saw that list.

On Wednesday, 4 March 2015, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Holy sh.. that’s a lot of models to support and there are probably more

I pity you :)

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Murray, Mike
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 19:10
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Yes, that’s basically the same thing. Here’s our method in the TS:

 



 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:03 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Thanks Mike, I will try that. 

 

I also found this source with another possible way to find this info out. 

 

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/systemcenter/en-US/6c0668db-b3e8-4515-a0a4-b2a73304babf/csproduct-get-name-not-returning-model?forum=configmgrosd

 

1. Run wbemtest

2. Connect to root\cimv2

3. Click Open Class and use Win32_ComputerSystem
4. Click Instances 
5. Open the instance by doubble clicking
6. Search for Model

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Murray, Mike
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:59 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

You could try

 

wmic computersystem get model

 

Mike

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 

RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

[Roland Janus]

I knew that. I’m not sure I want to go through that much effort.

A mail to SD so they know they have to check the console may already be enough.

We’re not that big.

 

But I still don’t see a solution for the “un-approve” issue

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of David O'Brien
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2015 00:51
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

You mean, something like this? 
http://blog.coretech.dk/kea/coretech-application-e-mail-approval-tool/

 

 

From: Roland Janus
Reply-To: mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Date: Tuesday, 10 March 2015 10:44 am
To: mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> >
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

I was thinking of using all users for the majority and hoping they behave 
themselves.

For all others still all users and approval. It should be fine having the 
service desk doing it.

Maybe there is a nice status event which could trigger a mail, but let them 
handle those.

 

But once it is approved you can’t un-approve at all?

What’s the solution then? None? 

 

-R

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2015 00:22
To: mssms
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

FWIW, i highly recommend converting them to apps. There's a tool that will do 
90% of the conversion for you.  We resisted too for a while but eventually did 
it and never use packages anymore because apps are so much nicer and more 
effective.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrdogs/archive/2012/04/28/package-conversion-manager-pcm-in-configmgr-2012.aspx

 

 

Also, we had to make the same decision---either a collection for each app or 
deploying the app to multiple user role-based collections.  For instance even 
if you define user roles, you will still have plenty of overlap I'm sure.  
Let's say you having marketing, finance, research groups.  Marketing and 
research get App A, but not Finance.  You still have to create two 
advertisements, one for the marketing group and one for the finance group.  
With 1,000 app out there, this could get crazy quick. We bit the bullet and 
created a collection for most apps, create one advertisement to that 
collection, then add collections containing users or computers to it as 
necessary.  Which is another reason we decided to deploy many apps to All Users 
as "Available", but I know that's not the route you want to go right now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Atkinson, Matt T mailto:matt.atkin...@providence.org> > wrote:

Thanks for all the great discussion. I really like the idea of deploying to all 
users and requiring admin approval. The issue with that is we are just 
finishing up migration from 2007 and all of our software is built as packages. 
Converting them to apps would probably be a pretty large body of work.

 

I’d wager that AD groups for the computers will be the way we wind up going, I 
just hate the delay between adding to the group, AD discovery, and finally 
collection evaluation. 

 

Anyone found a good way of working around this? Incremental updates won’t work 
as this will probably need close to 1k collections :(.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> 
] On Behalf Of Greg Thomas
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 5:13 PM
To: Robert Spinelli
Cc: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

I use PowerShell to create the AD groups based on apps, create and populate the 
collections based on the AD groups, and then deploy the app to those 
collections. You might be surprised how few lines of code it is.

Give it a shot. 

On Mar 7, 2015 10:11 AM, Robert Spinelli mailto:rspinell...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I wish there was a way to make it only show the apps that the user should have 
access to instead of all the apps (that don’t need a license) in app catalog.

 

Issue I see with this is people just going into the App Catalog and be like 
this seems like I might use this one app someday, and they install bunch of 
apps they never need.  We have about 1k apps, the typical user needs maybe 50.  
We have roles that we group the apps in (ex: secretary) so they are only able 
to install the 50 apps they need.  I’m working thru the design now on this, 
since were doing this using another product and moving over to SCCM 2012.  The 
only way to get this functional is have a collection, AD group, and target that 
app to that collection.  We’ll end up with 1k collections (1 per app) which I’m 
not thrilled with.  It would have been great if I could of target

RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

[Roland Janus]

I was thinking of using all users for the majority and hoping they behave
themselves.

For all others still all users and approval. It should be fine having the
service desk doing it.

Maybe there is a nice status event which could trigger a mail, but let them
handle those.

 

But once it is approved you can’t un-approve at all?

What’s the solution then? None? 

 

-R

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Dienstag, 10. März 2015 00:22
To: mssms
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

FWIW, i highly recommend converting them to apps. There's a tool that will
do 90% of the conversion for you.  We resisted too for a while but
eventually did it and never use packages anymore because apps are so much
nicer and more effective.

 

http://blogs.technet.com/b/configmgrdogs/archive/2012/04/28/package-conversi
on-manager-pcm-in-configmgr-2012.aspx

 

 

Also, we had to make the same decision---either a collection for each app or
deploying the app to multiple user role-based collections.  For instance
even if you define user roles, you will still have plenty of overlap I'm
sure.  Let's say you having marketing, finance, research groups.  Marketing
and research get App A, but not Finance.  You still have to create two
advertisements, one for the marketing group and one for the finance group.
With 1,000 app out there, this could get crazy quick. We bit the bullet and
created a collection for most apps, create one advertisement to that
collection, then add collections containing users or computers to it as
necessary.  Which is another reason we decided to deploy many apps to All
Users as "Available", but I know that's not the route you want to go right
now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Atkinson, Matt T
mailto:matt.atkin...@providence.org> > wrote:

Thanks for all the great discussion. I really like the idea of deploying to
all users and requiring admin approval. The issue with that is we are just
finishing up migration from 2007 and all of our software is built as
packages. Converting them to apps would probably be a pretty large body of
work.

 

I’d wager that AD groups for the computers will be the way we wind up going,
I just hate the delay between adding to the group, AD discovery, and finally
collection evaluation. 

 

Anyone found a good way of working around this? Incremental updates won’t
work as this will probably need close to 1k collections :(.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
 ] On Behalf Of Greg Thomas
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 5:13 PM
To: Robert Spinelli
Cc: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: App catalog background transfers?

 

I use PowerShell to create the AD groups based on apps, create and populate
the collections based on the AD groups, and then deploy the app to those
collections. You might be surprised how few lines of code it is.

Give it a shot. 

On Mar 7, 2015 10:11 AM, Robert Spinelli mailto:rspinell...@outlook.com> > wrote:

I wish there was a way to make it only show the apps that the user should
have access to instead of all the apps (that don’t need a license) in app
catalog.

 

Issue I see with this is people just going into the App Catalog and be like
this seems like I might use this one app someday, and they install bunch of
apps they never need.  We have about 1k apps, the typical user needs maybe
50.  We have roles that we group the apps in (ex: secretary) so they are
only able to install the 50 apps they need.  I’m working thru the design now
on this, since were doing this using another product and moving over to SCCM
2012.  The only way to get this functional is have a collection, AD group,
and target that app to that collection.  We’ll end up with 1k collections (1
per app) which I’m not thrilled with.  It would have been great if I could
of targeted the app to all users (not having to create 1k collections) and
have the 50 apps the secretary needs show up in App Catalog by having the
requirement rules check the AD group the user is in.

 

Good thread though why you shouldn’t use requirement rules / AD groups for
targeting.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/3a737afa-26e8-4881-9105-a9
c42055ca67/how-to-create-a-global-condition-based-on-computersusers-active-d
irectory-group

MS has pushed SCCM 2012 saying you don’t need as many collections, but until
they allow you to do something like above, I don’t agree you don’t need lots
of collections.   I used to work at a very large financial firm and we had
something like 25k apps, there is no way we were going to target them to all
users.

 

Rob

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 10:20 

RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

[Roland Janus]

That’s the issue with that approach, good, better, best.

Even good is practically way too good for 98 % off all users and they would be 
happy for sure with whatever business model is available today.

Core-i5, 8GB RAM, SSD. Standard more or less but no, they ask for 16G, core-i7 
without having a clue.

 

Management isn’t listening either, hence dozens of models to support

 

And then they  have a computer with an actual 5%CPU and 3GB memory usage.

SSD is the only real performance boost people really want.

 

All our new models (HP) are i5, 8GB, 256 SSD.

With 2 sizes for notebooks and one desktop, that’s it.

 

-Roland

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 01:06
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

I wish, we’re on a tight budget. We select 3 desktop and laptop models (good, 
better, best) each year for people to choose from  (and we get good pricing on 
them), so we may have 6 new models each year. The problem is, we will have 
computers 6 years old or more still around. So that makes for a lot of models.  
:/

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 3:00 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

Obviously you must have tons of money to waste, that’s what that usually is 
called…

 

-Roland

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 23:18
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

One of the great(?) things about working in Higher Ed. It’s difficult to tell 
people what they *have* to use. At least we’re managing them. That took forever 
to get approved by the million or so committees we have to go through.  :)

 

Mike

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rickym61
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:56 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

Exactly what I thought when I saw that list.

On Wednesday, 4 March 2015, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Holy sh.. that’s a lot of models to support and there are probably more

I pity you :)

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Murray, Mike
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 19:10
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Yes, that’s basically the same thing. Here’s our method in the TS:

 



 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:03 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Thanks Mike, I will try that. 

 

I also found this source with another possible way to find this info out. 

 

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/systemcenter/en-US/6c0668db-b3e8-4515-a0a4-b2a73304babf/csproduct-get-name-not-returning-model?forum=configmgrosd

 

1. Run wbemtest

2. Connect to root\cimv2

3. Click Open Class and use Win32_ComputerSystem
4. Click Instances 
5. Open the instance by doubble clicking
6. Search for Model

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Murray, Mike
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:59 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

You could try

 

wmic computersystem get model

 

Mike

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:49 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

When I use the command below, the result is blank. Command prompt will show 
“Name” and then nothing below it. 

 

wmic csproduct get name

 

Has anyone seen this blank before? I use this for the driver package 
installation steps. 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

[Roland Janus]

The “hey, you didn’t spend all the money we gave you, so you don’t need it.
We’ll give you less next year”-approach.

 

Sad but true.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of christopher.catl...@us.sogeti.com
Sent: Freitag, 6. März 2015 05:42
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

For grant money, it often times has stipulations on how the funds can be
spent.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 19:41
To: mssms
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

In higher ed/research and many government or npo they get grant money and
they see it as their money they can do anything with. They earned it by
jumping through the hoops to get it. It's hard to argue with them. So it's
always hey I.t. Guys, we're buying this with or without you, so suck it. As
always, it comes down to executive leadership/super which is often non
existent

On Mar 4, 2015 6:01 PM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Obviously you must have tons of money to waste, that’s what that usually is
called…

 

-Roland

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> ] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 23:18
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

One of the great(?) things about working in Higher Ed. It’s difficult to
tell people what they *have* to use. At least we’re managing them. That took
forever to get approved by the million or so committees we have to go
through.  :)

 

Mike

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rickym61
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:56 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

Exactly what I thought when I saw that list.

On Wednesday, 4 March 2015, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Holy sh.. that’s a lot of models to support and there are probably more

I pity you :)

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 19:10
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Yes, that’s basically the same thing. Here’s our method in the TS:

 



 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:03 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Thanks Mike, I will try that. 

 

I also found this source with another possible way to find this info out. 

 

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/systemcenter/en-US/6c0668db-b3e8
-4515-a0a4-b2a73304babf/csproduct-get-name-not-returning-model?forum=configm
grosd

 

1. Run wbemtest

2. Connect to root\cimv2

3. Click Open Class and use Win32_ComputerSystem
4. Click Instances 
5. Open the instance by doubble clicking
6. Search for Model

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:59 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

You could try

 

wmic computersystem get model

 

Mike

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:49 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

When I use the command below, the result is blank. Command prompt will show
“Name” and then nothing below it. 

 

wmic csproduct get name

 

Has anyone seen this blank before? I use this for the driver package
installation steps. 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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imm

RE: [mssms] F8 in OS creates invisible cmd processes

[Roland Janus]

Alright, I figured that I probably wouldn't get an answer on that one, so I
had to solve it myself.

 

And since I can repeat that behavior, it looks like a weird bug.

 

Assumptions:

 

CM2012, R2, CU4 (not sure if it happened before)

CM created image to deploy, but also happened with "install.wim"

MDT based TS, vanilla.

Boot image with F8 enabled (doh)

 

Basically it all looks good and F8 is also working once booted into the OS.

But, if you enable "do not assign." here, 



 

in the preinstall part on the BDE volume, which I think is valid for
whatever reason, F8 function in the OS breaks.

 

What happens is a cmd is opened, but you can't see it.

Hence you can't close it and if you can't close it, the screen gets stuck
once the TS wants to reboot.

If that happens you have the same behavior.

 

Can someone try to duplicate that?

You only need to have F8 enabled and tick that checkbox. At least that's
what I did.

 

If you add a step to get a cmd open (serviceui.exe) you could open
taskmanager and see that every F8 hit creates a new cmd you can't see.

 

But why would that option have anything to do with F8 support?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Freitag, 27. Februar 2015 11:12
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] F8 in OS creates invisible cmd processes

 

I know this sounds weird, but that's what's happening now.

 

The boot image has F8 enabled, it works fine in Win8 deployments and in PE
in general.

But when I deploy Win 7, where it still works in PE, it doesn't in the full
OS.

 

I figured that it does create the process, but the window doesn't show,
which means it can't be closed either.

That causes reboots to hang.

 

To get proof, I've used serviceui.exe to open a cmd and have it wait and
then press F8.

The processes are there, but not visible. Whenever I use F8 another
invisible process is created

 



 

Process list:

 



 

I don't know if the setupcomplete.cmd is supposed to be there.

The first one is from the serviceui, the others are the hidden ones. They
are the same, but don't behave the same.

 

It worked in the past but now something changed and I can't put my finger on
it.

Tried like everything, maybe it's a patch, so I've used a plain OS, even the
original install.wim, but no difference.

I thought maybe CU4, so I removed that for the client, also no difference.

 

That is so weird.

Anyone? 

 

-Roland

 

 

RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

[Roland Janus]

Obviously you must have tons of money to waste, that’s what that usually is 
called…

 

-Roland

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 23:18
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

One of the great(?) things about working in Higher Ed. It’s difficult to tell 
people what they *have* to use. At least we’re managing them. That took forever 
to get approved by the million or so committees we have to go through.  :)

 

Mike

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Rickym61
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 1:56 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

Exactly what I thought when I saw that list.

On Wednesday, 4 March 2015, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Holy sh.. that’s a lot of models to support and there are probably more

I pity you :)

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Murray, Mike
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 19:10
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Yes, that’s basically the same thing. Here’s our method in the TS:

 



 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:03 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Thanks Mike, I will try that. 

 

I also found this source with another possible way to find this info out. 

 

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/systemcenter/en-US/6c0668db-b3e8-4515-a0a4-b2a73304babf/csproduct-get-name-not-returning-model?forum=configmgrosd

 

1. Run wbemtest

2. Connect to root\cimv2

3. Click Open Class and use Win32_ComputerSystem
4. Click Instances 
5. Open the instance by doubble clicking
6. Search for Model

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Murray, Mike
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:59 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

You could try

 

wmic computersystem get model

 

Mike

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
 ] On Behalf Of 
Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:49 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com 
 
Subject: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

When I use the command below, the result is blank. Command prompt will show 
“Name” and then nothing below it. 

 

wmic csproduct get name

 

Has anyone seen this blank before? I use this for the driver package 
installation steps. 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

[Roland Janus]

Holy sh.. that’s a lot of models to support and there are probably more

I pity you :)

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Mittwoch, 4. März 2015 19:10
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Yes, that’s basically the same thing. Here’s our method in the TS:

 



 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:03 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

Thanks Mike, I will try that. 

 

I also found this source with another possible way to find this info out. 

 

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/systemcenter/en-US/6c0668db-b3e8
-4515-a0a4-b2a73304babf/csproduct-get-name-not-returning-model?forum=configm
grosd

 

1. Run wbemtest

2. Connect to root\cimv2

3. Click Open Class and use Win32_ComputerSystem
4. Click Instances 
5. Open the instance by doubble clicking
6. Search for Model

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:59 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] RE: Get product name is blank

 

You could try

 

wmic computersystem get model

 

Mike

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Chris Carbone
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 9:49 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] Get product name is blank

 

When I use the command below, the result is blank. Command prompt will show
“Name” and then nothing below it. 

 

wmic csproduct get name

 

Has anyone seen this blank before? I use this for the driver package
installation steps. 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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immediately. 

 

 

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RE: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

[Roland Janus]

Agreed.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Schwan, Phil
Sent: Montag, 2. März 2015 21:53
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

 

Doesn’t matter which you use; the principle of rolling your updates into your 
core image applies to both MDT and ConfigMgr.  That choice is more one of 
convenience :)

 

-Phil

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 3:47 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

 

Let’s start the MDT vs. SCCM discussion again :)

 

-Roland

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Schwan, Phil
Sent: Montag, 2. März 2015 20:53
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

 

+1 This is why we do a build and capture in the first place: to save deployment 
time.  Yeah, it can take awhile, but you don’t need to babysit it so time isn’t 
really an issue.

 

-Phil

_

Phil Schwan | Technical Architect, Enterprise Windows Services

Microsoft VTSP (b-phs...@microsoft.com <mailto:b-phs...@microsoft.com> )

Project Leadership Associates | 2000 Town Center, Suite 1900, Southfield, MI 
48075

Lync: 312.756.1626  Mobile: 419.262.5133

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Lead with Strategy. Leverage Technology. Deliver Results.

 

 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:20 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

 

Update your capture image with the latest updates regularly and deploy that 
fully patched wim instead.

I guess that’s what most people do. Creating the image takes a looong time 
though. 81 patches (with Office and .net)

 

But it’s completely unattended, so I don’t really care.

And use “schedule updates” to update the image directly for the supported ones.

 

-roland

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dougherty
Sent: Samstag, 28. Februar 2015 21:28
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

 

Does anyone have a Microsoft contact/work there... ?

 

I've been digging into MDT/OSD for the last couple of days and the update 
process really time-consuming.

 

The last service pack for Windows 7 was almost 5 years ago.

 

Would it be possible for MS to issue a "Win7 SP1 + updates"... thing?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

[Roland Janus]

Let’s start the MDT vs. SCCM discussion again :)

 

-Roland

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Schwan, Phil
Sent: Montag, 2. März 2015 20:53
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

 

+1 This is why we do a build and capture in the first place: to save deployment 
time.  Yeah, it can take awhile, but you don’t need to babysit it so time isn’t 
really an issue.

 

-Phil

_

Phil Schwan | Technical Architect, Enterprise Windows Services

Microsoft VTSP (b-phs...@microsoft.com <mailto:b-phs...@microsoft.com> )

Project Leadership Associates | 2000 Town Center, Suite 1900, Southfield, MI 
48075

Lync: 312.756.1626  Mobile: 419.262.5133

 <http://www.projectleadership.net/> www.projectleadership.net  
<http://www.linkedin.com/in/philschwan>  <https://twitter.com/philschwan>   
<http://myitforum.com/myitforumwp/author/philschwan> 

Lead with Strategy. Leverage Technology. Deliver Results.

 

 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:20 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

 

Update your capture image with the latest updates regularly and deploy that 
fully patched wim instead.

I guess that’s what most people do. Creating the image takes a looong time 
though. 81 patches (with Office and .net)

 

But it’s completely unattended, so I don’t really care.

And use “schedule updates” to update the image directly for the supported ones.

 

-roland

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dougherty
Sent: Samstag, 28. Februar 2015 21:28
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

 

Does anyone have a Microsoft contact/work there... ?

 

I've been digging into MDT/OSD for the last couple of days and the update 
process really time-consuming.

 

The last service pack for Windows 7 was almost 5 years ago.

 

Would it be possible for MS to issue a "Win7 SP1 + updates"... thing?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

[Roland Janus]

Update your capture image with the latest updates regularly and deploy that 
fully patched wim instead.

I guess that’s what most people do. Creating the image takes a looong time 
though. 81 patches (with Office and .net)

 

But it’s completely unattended, so I don’t really care.

And use “schedule updates” to update the image directly for the supported ones.

 

-roland

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike Dougherty
Sent: Samstag, 28. Februar 2015 21:28
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] [OT] Windows 7 SP1 Updates and/or "Maintenance release"

 

Does anyone have a Microsoft contact/work there... ?

 

I've been digging into MDT/OSD for the last couple of days and the update 
process really time-consuming.

 

The last service pack for Windows 7 was almost 5 years ago.

 

Would it be possible for MS to issue a "Win7 SP1 + updates"... thing?

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

[Roland Janus]

Got it. Just not sure yet on how to do that :)

 

Thanks, roland

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Freitag, 27. Februar 2015 11:55
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

 

I'm drawing a blank on the actual technique right now, but basically you can
use an in-memory recordset that tracks the original values and the new ones.
When you go to save the changes back to the database, it compares the
current DB values against the original values, before applying the new ones.
If they don't match, an error is generated.  If they do match, it's safe to
make the updates.

 

Andreas had the right answer on the refresh.  I know there was a reason for
that silliness, but now I don't recall what it was, other than some odd
behavior from the MMC framework.

 

Thanks,

-Michael

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:35 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

 

I guess the codeplex web page would need to deal with that also, some logic
to handle that, which brings me back to the question, what could be done
from a programmatically point of view to not get into some kind of mess?

 

What would you suggest in general for that?

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Freitag, 27. Februar 2015 11:06
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

 

The console is rather "passive" about multiple users.  It should generate an
error in case there are conflicting updates, but otherwise yes, you're going
to see some odd behaviors with multiple users.

 

My suggestion would be to use the web interface available on CodePlex if you
want to have a simple GUI that works better with multiple users.

 

Thanks,

-Michael

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:26 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

 

Is there advice on handle that properly?

 

I've started the console twice, with the same user, added a dummy entry on
the first console.

 

One issue is that the 2nd console wouldn't show that entry. Refresh isn't
doing anything. I had to close and open again.

The same happens of course when entries are changed or added. Unless the
other console is closed and open again it wouldn't show.

 

Those two even showed different values for the same ID, depending on where
it was changed.

That of course can cause inconsistency and entries being overwritten.

 

I don't plan to use the console anyway, but a powershell based GUI, with the
MDT-module from Niehaus.

Would I ran into the same problems, or how do I handle multiple users then?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

[Roland Janus]

I guess the codeplex web page would need to deal with that also, some logic
to handle that, which brings me back to the question, what could be done
from a programmatically point of view to not get into some kind of mess?

 

What would you suggest in general for that?

 

Cheers, roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Freitag, 27. Februar 2015 11:06
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

 

The console is rather "passive" about multiple users.  It should generate an
error in case there are conflicting updates, but otherwise yes, you're going
to see some odd behaviors with multiple users.

 

My suggestion would be to use the web interface available on CodePlex if you
want to have a simple GUI that works better with multiple users.

 

Thanks,

-Michael

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 10:26 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

 

Is there advice on handle that properly?

 

I've started the console twice, with the same user, added a dummy entry on
the first console.

 

One issue is that the 2nd console wouldn't show that entry. Refresh isn't
doing anything. I had to close and open again.

The same happens of course when entries are changed or added. Unless the
other console is closed and open again it wouldn't show.

 

Those two even showed different values for the same ID, depending on where
it was changed.

That of course can cause inconsistency and entries being overwritten.

 

I don't plan to use the console anyway, but a powershell based GUI, with the
MDT-module from Niehaus.

Would I ran into the same problems, or how do I handle multiple users then?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

[Roland Janus]

Right, tried the share and then went back and it’s refreshed.

 

Thanks for the tip.

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: Freitag, 27. Februar 2015 11:06
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

 

I think you have to refresh further up in the console? 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: den 27 februari 2015 10:26
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

 

Is there advice on handle that properly?

 

I’ve started the console twice, with the same user, added a dummy entry on
the first console.

 

One issue is that the 2nd console wouldn’t show that entry. Refresh isn’t
doing anything. I had to close and open again.

The same happens of course when entries are changed or added. Unless the
other console is closed and open again it wouldn’t show.

 

Those two even showed different values for the same ID, depending on where
it was changed.

That of course can cause inconsistency and entries being overwritten.

 

I don’t plan to use the console anyway, but a powershell based GUI, with the
MDT-module from Niehaus.

Would I ran into the same problems, or how do I handle multiple users then?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

[mssms] F8 in OS creates invisible cmd processes

[Roland Janus]

I know this sounds weird, but that's what's happening now.

 

The boot image has F8 enabled, it works fine in Win8 deployments and in PE
in general.

But when I deploy Win 7, where it still works in PE, it doesn't in the full
OS.

 

I figured that it does create the process, but the window doesn't show,
which means it can't be closed either.

That causes reboots to hang.

 

To get proof, I've used serviceui.exe to open a cmd and have it wait and
then press F8.

The processes are there, but not visible. Whenever I use F8 another
invisible process is created

 



 

Process list:

 



 

I don't know if the setupcomplete.cmd is supposed to be there.

The first one is from the serviceui, the others are the hidden ones. They
are the same, but don't behave the same.

 

It worked in the past but now something changed and I can't put my finger on
it.

Tried like everything, maybe it's a patch, so I've used a plain OS, even the
original install.wim, but no difference.

I thought maybe CU4, so I removed that for the client, also no difference.

 

That is so weird.

Anyone? 

 

-Roland

 

[mssms] Multiple users accessing the MDT DB

[Roland Janus]

Is there advice on handle that properly?

 

I've started the console twice, with the same user, added a dummy entry on
the first console.

 

One issue is that the 2nd console wouldn't show that entry. Refresh isn't
doing anything. I had to close and open again.

The same happens of course when entries are changed or added. Unless the
other console is closed and open again it wouldn't show.

 

Those two even showed different values for the same ID, depending on where
it was changed.

That of course can cause inconsistency and entries being overwritten.

 

I don't plan to use the console anyway, but a powershell based GUI, with the
MDT-module from Niehaus.

Would I ran into the same problems, or how do I handle multiple users then?

 

-Roland

 

 

RE: [mssms] Reporting service backup, automated

[Roland Janus]

Thanks! Jason

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Mittwoch, 25. Februar 2015 02:21
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Reporting service backup, automated

 

​The encryption key does not change -- that would make it impossible to read 
the data. So just add it to your maintenance plan.

 

As for the config files, same story, unless you change them, they won't change.

 

J

  _  

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com < 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> on 
behalf of Roland Janus < <mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> 
roland.ja...@hispeed.ch>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 3:54 PM
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Reporting service backup, automated 

 

Well, it’s more like a no brainer why.

The job backs up all user DB’s. So I have nothing to worry about and I’ll catch 
the changes without any effort, if new reports are added.

 

On which circumstances to the mentioned files change?

If those and the encryption key wouldn’t change once configured I just do that 
once (manually) and the DB backup is the only thing running regularly.

Is that the case?

 

-R

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Dienstag, 24. Februar 2015 16:13
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] Reporting service backup, automated

 

Don’t have a specific method for you except to ask why would want to do this 
regularly? The reporting services DB stores reporting services specific data 
like reports and subscriptions. Unless you are changing these regularly, 
there’s no need to back up the DB. Once after you make changes is sufficient as 
the DB does *not* store ConfigMgr data.

 

J

 

From:  <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [ 
<mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com> mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:22 AM
To:  <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] Reporting service backup, automated

 

Anyone has that automated?

 

I have the DB backup running (from ola.hallengren.com), but then there is the 
encryption key and the files.

 

Am I right, as long as the reporting services isn’t reconfigured, backing up 
the encryption key once is sufficient?

 

But those still need to be done regularly, right?

* Rsreportserver.config

* Rssvrpolicy.config

* Rsmgrpolicy.config

* Reportingservicesservice.exe.config

* Web.config for both the Report Server and Report Manager ASP.NET 
applications

* Machine.config for ASP.NET

I’m thinking of adding this to the DB backup tasks, but maybe someone has 
already a solution for that?

 

We may use Veeam in the future, would this be able to do all that?

 

-R

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] Reporting service backup, automated

[Roland Janus]

Well, it's more like a no brainer why.

The job backs up all user DB's. So I have nothing to worry about and I'll
catch the changes without any effort, if new reports are added.

 

On which circumstances to the mentioned files change?

If those and the encryption key wouldn't change once configured I just do
that once (manually) and the DB backup is the only thing running regularly.

Is that the case?

 

-R

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Dienstag, 24. Februar 2015 16:13
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Reporting service backup, automated

 

Don't have a specific method for you except to ask why would want to do this
regularly? The reporting services DB stores reporting services specific data
like reports and subscriptions. Unless you are changing these regularly,
there's no need to back up the DB. Once after you make changes is sufficient
as the DB does *not* store ConfigMgr data.

 

J

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 2:22 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] Reporting service backup, automated

 

Anyone has that automated?

 

I have the DB backup running (from ola.hallengren.com), but then there is
the encryption key and the files.

 

Am I right, as long as the reporting services isn't reconfigured, backing up
the encryption key once is sufficient?

 

But those still need to be done regularly, right?

* Rsreportserver.config

* Rssvrpolicy.config

* Rsmgrpolicy.config

* Reportingservicesservice.exe.config

* Web.config for both the Report Server and Report Manager ASP.NET
applications

* Machine.config for ASP.NET

I'm thinking of adding this to the DB backup tasks, but maybe someone has
already a solution for that?

 

We may use Veeam in the future, would this be able to do all that?

 

-R

 

 

 

 

[mssms] Reporting service backup, automated

[Roland Janus]

Anyone has that automated?

 

I have the DB backup running (from ola.hallengren.com), but then there is
the encryption key and the files.

 

Am I right, as long as the reporting services isn't reconfigured, backing up
the encryption key once is sufficient?

 

But those still need to be done regularly, right?

* Rsreportserver.config

* Rssvrpolicy.config

* Rsmgrpolicy.config

* Reportingservicesservice.exe.config

* Web.config for both the Report Server and Report Manager ASP.NET
applications

* Machine.config for ASP.NET

I'm thinking of adding this to the DB backup tasks, but maybe someone has
already a solution for that?

 

We may use Veeam in the future, would this be able to do all that?

 

-R

 

 

RE: [mssms] Application Model / Targeting

[Roland Janus]

We’re gonna go similar:

Everything to all users, approval where it makes sense. No AD-groups.

What must be deployed uses specific collections.

Primary device only.

 

-R

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Sean Pomeroy
Sent: Dienstag, 24. Februar 2015 01:37
To: mssms@lists.myITforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Application Model / Targeting

 

For licensed applications we use AD groups tied to collections for the users 
and UDA to only deploy to the users primary machine. 

For license free applications we just deploy as available to the all users 
collection and they use the application catalog. 

 

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015, 7:30 PM Robert Spinelli mailto:rspinell...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Just trying to figure out how others target using the application model?  I was 
looking to create a minimal amount of collections and use AD group membership 
of the machine as an application requirement but after doing some research, 
seems like people are saying that application requirements shouldn't be used as 
a targeting method.  It can cause performance issue as all clients would have 
policies for all applications (ex: 2000 apps) even if they only need 5 apps.

 

Nice long thread/post here:

 

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/3a737afa-26e8-4881-9105-a9c42055ca67/how-to-create-a-global-condition-based-on-computersusers-active-directory-group

 

If you have 2000 apps for example and have an AD group per app, are you 
creating 2000 collections?  This is what I used to do for 2007 and 2012 package 
model, but thought the benefit of 2012 was less collections.  

 

Would like to hear what others are doing.

 

Rob

 

 

RE: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

[Roland Janus]

Thanks.

I’ve tried that and I don’t think I can get the behavior I want.

 

I need the packagers to be able to always read all packages , also those they 
don’t have change access anymore (not their scope) AND always to read their 
collections.

 

But since ‘deploy’ is linked to collections and removing a scope isn’t removing 
“deploy” for any application, there is no way to revoke that access when they 
still have read access to collections and applications

Scope isn’t doing anything for that. Btw: the same is true for “move” package 
and “distribute content”. Move access once means always move access despite the 
current scope.

 

MS should have made “deploy” depending on the actual deployable object and not 
(only) to the collection to deploy to and more granular. It’s a good start but 
not enough.

 

In AD that would mean that once change access to a single gpo was revoked, they 
can still deploy to any OU. Not making sense either.

 

I’d prefer to be wrong. Am I?

I haven’t’ figured a way to do what I want.

 

-R

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of CESAR.ABREG0
Sent: Freitag, 13. Februar 2015 15:01
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

 

You mean 'packager role'. 

 

1. Creat a collection name 'pkg USA servers' limited to 'all systems'

2. Create a scope, give it a generic name since it can be for many purpose. 

3. Creat a new role to limit your 'action' permission. 

4. Add user/group, add ONLY the scope and collection you created. 

5. Select the built-in role or one you created. 

 

In this scenario, the users would only have access to objects in 'pkg USA 
server' and collections limited to it. 

 

In essence, the collection 'pkg USA servers' can be empty, the user would have 
access to deploy but not objects would be affected. 

Cesar A.

Meaning is NOT in words, but inside people! Dr. Myles Munroe. 


On Feb 13, 2015, at 1:27 AM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Actually I don’t know what you mean exactly with “scoped to an empty 
collection”.

Can you elaborate?

 

The goal is:

Allow deployment of applications only while they have the scope “packagers”.

Have read access to everything (basically), especially all applications.

 

-roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of CESAR.ABREG0
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2015 22:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

 

Though I see your point. That would depends to the objects you scope the role 
for. It can actually be scoped to an empty collection. 

Cesar A.

Meaning is NOT in words, but inside people! Dr. Myles Munroe. 


On Feb 12, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

I disagree.

Basically there is no useful method to prevent deploying any app as soon as 
they have access to any collection especially considering packagers.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2015 15:47
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

 

Just went through that at latest gig. 

Those activities can only be executed onto collection. Kinda makes sense. 
Cesar 

On Feb 12, 2015 12:27 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Have you noticed that the deploy and move action for an application is linked 
to a collection instead of the application object itself?

 

I have a packager role and a packager scope. There are also collections for 
them and that’s the only thing they can touch.

Almost..

 



 

They can create apps, collections within their limits and deploy to them.

Once an admin changes the scope of a package, removes “packagers” leaving 
“default”, there edit/delete etc. access is revoked.

But they still can “deploy”, because that action is linked to a collection and 
not what would make sense to me to the application.

I mean the object to control is the application, not the collection, why would 
“deploy” be part of an collection?

Shouldn’t deploy always be linked to the object to the deploy and not what to 
deploy TO? So “deploy” for all classes (app, packages, settings etc.)?

Does that make sense to you?

 

I could remove read only access, then they wouldn’t see it anymore, hence can’t 
deploy, but I want them to be able to see live apps.

 

Is there a way around that?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] RE: Behaviour of available time setting in software update deployments

[Roland Janus]

How about this? Computer Agent:

 



 

-Roland

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Freitag, 13. Februar 2015 18:32
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: Behaviour of available time setting in software update 
deployments

 

Yep. 

 

http://windowsitpro.com/system-center-2012/q-why-did-my-scheduled-system-center-configuration-manager-2012-update-install-ge
 

 

Note: The actual installation deadline time is the displayed deadline time plus 
a random amount of time up to 2 hours. This reduces the impact of all client 
computers in the destination collection from installing the software updates in 
the deployment at the same time."

 

Daniel Ratliff

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Marcum, John
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:10 PM
To: 'mssms@lists.myitforum.com'
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: Behaviour of available time setting in software update 
deployments

 

Are you sure about this?

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 8:58 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: RE: [mssms] RE: Behaviour of available time setting in software update 
deployments

 

>From memory, there is always a random delay (up to 2 hours I think) after the 
>available time for clients to start downloading updates so this is not  
>concern.

 

J

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com   
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of CESAR.ABREG0
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:26 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: Re: [mssms] RE: Behaviour of available time setting in software update 
deployments

 

The agent only scan starts downloading after the deployment is made 
'available', whether now or future time. At this point, it can be installed 
manually and force the install at deadline schedule. 

 

FYI. Don't set the available schedule if you have thousands of endpoints, it 
may overload you servers because all the client are going to hit the server at 
the same time. When you use available now or default, clients start scan and 
download next pol check which is more random. 

Cesar A.

Meaning is NOT in words, but inside people! Dr. Myles Munroe. 


On Feb 12, 2015, at 8:01 PM, Corkill, Daniel mailto:danielcork...@logan.qld.gov.au> > wrote:

When does the client download the updates that are applicable for installation? 
Eg. I create a deployment with an available time of an hour’s time. For that 
first hour, does absolutely nothing happen or does it perform a scan, download 
the updates in the background and then once the available time is reached, the 
applicable updates appear in the software center?

 

I’m also interested in what happens if you create a deployment with an 
available time of as soon as possible but disable it. Does any scanning and 
downloading occur?

 

Daniel.

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hunt
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2015 4:05 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] RE: Behaviour of available time setting in software update 
deployments

 

available will show them in software center straight away (well, after an eval 
cycle after the available time)

if you click install, it will then download and install the update(s).

 

 

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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Corkill, Daniel
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2015 4:24 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com  
Subject: [mssms] Behaviour of available time setting in software update 
deployments

 

Does the ‘available time’ setting in software update deployments prevent the 
updates being downloaded by the client until the specified time or do the 
updates still download and the updates aren’t presented in software center 
until after the time?

 

Daniel.

 

 
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RE: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

[Roland Janus]

Actually I don’t know what you mean exactly with “scoped to an empty 
collection”.

Can you elaborate?

 

The goal is:

Allow deployment of applications only while they have the scope “packagers”.

Have read access to everything (basically), especially all applications.

 

-roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of CESAR.ABREG0
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2015 22:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

 

Though I see your point. That would depends to the objects you scope the role 
for. It can actually be scoped to an empty collection. 

Cesar A.

Meaning is NOT in words, but inside people! Dr. Myles Munroe. 


On Feb 12, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

I disagree.

Basically there is no useful method to prevent deploying any app as soon as 
they have access to any collection especially considering packagers.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2015 15:47
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

 

Just went through that at latest gig. 

Those activities can only be executed onto collection. Kinda makes sense. 
Cesar 

On Feb 12, 2015 12:27 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Have you noticed that the deploy and move action for an application is linked 
to a collection instead of the application object itself?

 

I have a packager role and a packager scope. There are also collections for 
them and that’s the only thing they can touch.

Almost..

 



 

They can create apps, collections within their limits and deploy to them.

Once an admin changes the scope of a package, removes “packagers” leaving 
“default”, there edit/delete etc. access is revoked.

But they still can “deploy”, because that action is linked to a collection and 
not what would make sense to me to the application.

I mean the object to control is the application, not the collection, why would 
“deploy” be part of an collection?

Shouldn’t deploy always be linked to the object to the deploy and not what to 
deploy TO? So “deploy” for all classes (app, packages, settings etc.)?

Does that make sense to you?

 

I could remove read only access, then they wouldn’t see it anymore, hence can’t 
deploy, but I want them to be able to see live apps.

 

Is there a way around that?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

[Roland Janus]

While that might work, it’s just a workaround. Removing access to an object 
should remove it, right? :)

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of CESAR.ABREG0
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2015 22:00
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

 

Though I see your point. That would depends to the objects you scope the role 
for. It can actually be scoped to an empty collection. 

Cesar A.

Meaning is NOT in words, but inside people! Dr. Myles Munroe. 


On Feb 12, 2015, at 12:51 PM, Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

I disagree.

Basically there is no useful method to prevent deploying any app as soon as 
they have access to any collection especially considering packagers.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>  
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2015 15:47
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: Re: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

 

Just went through that at latest gig. 

Those activities can only be executed onto collection. Kinda makes sense. 
Cesar 

On Feb 12, 2015 12:27 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Have you noticed that the deploy and move action for an application is linked 
to a collection instead of the application object itself?

 

I have a packager role and a packager scope. There are also collections for 
them and that’s the only thing they can touch.

Almost..

 



 

They can create apps, collections within their limits and deploy to them.

Once an admin changes the scope of a package, removes “packagers” leaving 
“default”, there edit/delete etc. access is revoked.

But they still can “deploy”, because that action is linked to a collection and 
not what would make sense to me to the application.

I mean the object to control is the application, not the collection, why would 
“deploy” be part of an collection?

Shouldn’t deploy always be linked to the object to the deploy and not what to 
deploy TO? So “deploy” for all classes (app, packages, settings etc.)?

Does that make sense to you?

 

I could remove read only access, then they wouldn’t see it anymore, hence can’t 
deploy, but I want them to be able to see live apps.

 

Is there a way around that?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

[Roland Janus]

I disagree.

Basically there is no useful method to prevent deploying any app as soon as 
they have access to any collection especially considering packagers.

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of elsalvoz
Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Februar 2015 15:47
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

 

Just went through that at latest gig. 

Those activities can only be executed onto collection. Kinda makes sense. 
Cesar 

On Feb 12, 2015 12:27 AM, "Roland Janus" mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch> > wrote:

Have you noticed that the deploy and move action for an application is linked 
to a collection instead of the application object itself?

 

I have a packager role and a packager scope. There are also collections for 
them and that’s the only thing they can touch.

Almost..

 



 

They can create apps, collections within their limits and deploy to them.

Once an admin changes the scope of a package, removes “packagers” leaving 
“default”, there edit/delete etc. access is revoked.

But they still can “deploy”, because that action is linked to a collection and 
not what would make sense to me to the application.

I mean the object to control is the application, not the collection, why would 
“deploy” be part of an collection?

Shouldn’t deploy always be linked to the object to the deploy and not what to 
deploy TO? So “deploy” for all classes (app, packages, settings etc.)?

Does that make sense to you?

 

I could remove read only access, then they wouldn’t see it anymore, hence can’t 
deploy, but I want them to be able to see live apps.

 

Is there a way around that?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

[Roland Janus]

Just confirmed.

Downloaded the new feb. updates, English only.

Switched client to German MUI and all updates installed anyway. Including IE
and several security updates.

 

So when exactly would downloading additional languages for updates be
required?

 

-roland

 

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2015 18:25
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

.net 3.5 if I remember correctly.

I probably remove all the recent updates and check again.

 

-R

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Dienstag, 10. Februar 2015 16:51
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

Ok, that's potentially slightly different but what updates specifically are
you referring to?

 

J

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 1:22 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

That's not what I meant or maybe it was and I didn't know?

 

Rephrasing: Does a MUI installation, outside of SUP, make it necessary to
add those (same) languages to the SUP config too to have the patches
install?

 

Or when would adding a language to SUP be required? I thought using a MUI
pack would mean that.

So, English native and MUI French,German means having English, French and
German added to SUP languages?

 

-R

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Dienstag, 10. Februar 2015 07:04
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

MUI's aren't language specific updates. They are simply updates that can be
added to any language of whatever product they are for. This goes for LIPs
as well as other language packs. Thus, no there's no need to add the
language to the SUP config to have them included in your catalog.

 

J

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 5:40 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

Bump?

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Sonntag, 8. Februar 2015 12:48
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

I thought that enabling a language in SUP is required if anything else then
english is used (assuming english is the default).

So that when e.g. French MUI is activated, that the updates for that
language are also downloadable.

 

But I have a Win7 client, with French mui and downloaded the latest updates
with English only, but they install regardless on the French MUI client.

The also show the French text in software center but I also disabled that in
the "summary details".

 

Why do I still see French details and why aren't the updates not failing?

I checked WSUS, there "download updates in all languages." is enabled.

Isn't that supposed to use "download updates only in there languages",
controlled by the SUP?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mssms] RBAC: Deploy action linked to Collection not making sense

[Roland Janus]

Have you noticed that the deploy and move action for an application is
linked to a collection instead of the application object itself?

 

I have a packager role and a packager scope. There are also collections for
them and that's the only thing they can touch.

Almost..

 



 

They can create apps, collections within their limits and deploy to them.

Once an admin changes the scope of a package, removes "packagers" leaving
"default", there edit/delete etc. access is revoked.

But they still can "deploy", because that action is linked to a collection
and not what would make sense to me to the application.

I mean the object to control is the application, not the collection, why
would "deploy" be part of an collection?

Shouldn't deploy always be linked to the object to the deploy and not what
to deploy TO? So "deploy" for all classes (app, packages, settings etc.)?

Does that make sense to you?

 

I could remove read only access, then they wouldn't see it anymore, hence
can't deploy, but I want them to be able to see live apps.

 

Is there a way around that?

 

-Roland

 

RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

[Roland Janus]

.net 3.5 if I remember correctly.

I probably remove all the recent updates and check again.

 

-R

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Dienstag, 10. Februar 2015 16:51
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

Ok, that's potentially slightly different but what updates specifically are
you referring to?

 

J

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 1:22 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

That's not what I meant or maybe it was and I didn't know?

 

Rephrasing: Does a MUI installation, outside of SUP, make it necessary to
add those (same) languages to the SUP config too to have the patches
install?

 

Or when would adding a language to SUP be required? I thought using a MUI
pack would mean that.

So, English native and MUI French,German means having English, French and
German added to SUP languages?

 

-R

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Dienstag, 10. Februar 2015 07:04
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

MUI's aren't language specific updates. They are simply updates that can be
added to any language of whatever product they are for. This goes for LIPs
as well as other language packs. Thus, no there's no need to add the
language to the SUP config to have them included in your catalog.

 

J

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 5:40 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

Bump?

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Sonntag, 8. Februar 2015 12:48
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

I thought that enabling a language in SUP is required if anything else then
english is used (assuming english is the default).

So that when e.g. French MUI is activated, that the updates for that
language are also downloadable.

 

But I have a Win7 client, with French mui and downloaded the latest updates
with English only, but they install regardless on the French MUI client.

The also show the French text in software center but I also disabled that in
the "summary details".

 

Why do I still see French details and why aren't the updates not failing?

I checked WSUS, there "download updates in all languages." is enabled.

Isn't that supposed to use "download updates only in there languages",
controlled by the SUP?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

[Roland Janus]

That's not what I meant or maybe it was and I didn't know?

 

Rephrasing: Does a MUI installation, outside of SUP, make it necessary to
add those (same) languages to the SUP config too to have the patches
install?

 

Or when would adding a language to SUP be required? I thought using a MUI
pack would mean that.

So, English native and MUI French,German means having English, French and
German added to SUP languages?

 

-R

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Jason Sandys
Sent: Dienstag, 10. Februar 2015 07:04
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

MUI's aren't language specific updates. They are simply updates that can be
added to any language of whatever product they are for. This goes for LIPs
as well as other language packs. Thus, no there's no need to add the
language to the SUP config to have them included in your catalog.

 

J

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 5:40 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

Bump?

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Sonntag, 8. Februar 2015 12:48
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com> 
Subject: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

I thought that enabling a language in SUP is required if anything else then
english is used (assuming english is the default).

So that when e.g. French MUI is activated, that the updates for that
language are also downloadable.

 

But I have a Win7 client, with French mui and downloaded the latest updates
with English only, but they install regardless on the French MUI client.

The also show the French text in software center but I also disabled that in
the "summary details".

 

Why do I still see French details and why aren't the updates not failing?

I checked WSUS, there "download updates in all languages." is enabled.

Isn't that supposed to use "download updates only in there languages",
controlled by the SUP?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

 

 

RE: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

[Roland Janus]

Bump?

 

 

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Sonntag, 8. Februar 2015 12:48
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

 

I thought that enabling a language in SUP is required if anything else then
english is used (assuming english is the default).

So that when e.g. French MUI is activated, that the updates for that
language are also downloadable.

 

But I have a Win7 client, with French mui and downloaded the latest updates
with English only, but they install regardless on the French MUI client.

The also show the French text in software center but I also disabled that in
the "summary details".

 

Why do I still see French details and why aren't the updates not failing?

I checked WSUS, there "download updates in all languages." is enabled.

Isn't that supposed to use "download updates only in there languages",
controlled by the SUP?

 

-Roland

 

 

 

[mssms] SUP language setting does what exactly?

[Roland Janus]

I thought that enabling a language in SUP is required if anything else then
english is used (assuming english is the default).

So that when e.g. French MUI is activated, that the updates for that
language are also downloadable.

 

But I have a Win7 client, with French mui and downloaded the latest updates
with English only, but they install regardless on the French MUI client.

The also show the French text in software center but I also disabled that in
the "summary details".

 

Why do I still see French details and why aren't the updates not failing?

I checked WSUS, there "download updates in all languages." is enabled.

Isn't that supposed to use "download updates only in there languages",
controlled by the SUP?

 

-Roland