Re: Anti-Spam !!!
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 06:53:53PM +0200, Mari van den Broek wrote: > > Second: Users who aren't on the list can't mail to the list > > Why shouldn't people who are not subscribed to the list not be able to send > messages? It is just a suggestion but maybe all those unwanted mails could be redirected to a 'special mailbox' for Maarten and Wynke so that they could still approve some mails from not subscribed people. Combined with something like spamassasin that gives spam-points to mail, it should be feasable to have real spam score more points (and autmatically delete it) then the not-so-real spam of not subscribed persons. David -- openMSX - the open source MSX emulator that aims for perfection http://openmsx.sf.net/ -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Anti-Spam !!!
On 2002.06.25 13:10 Sean Young wrote: > On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:45:48AM +0200, Maarten ter Huurne wrote: > > On Monday 24 June 2002 23:56, eMeSiX wrote: > > > First: Kill *ALL* HTML mail > > > > Filtering out "" should kill most HTML, but > maybe not > > 100%. > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but "Content-Type: text/html" should do the > trick, shouldn't it? Not really. Even if the Content-Type says "important/stuff" and the message starts with , some mail clients (which shall remain nameless) will render all the HTML, including horrid javascript inside, I guess. Eric -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Anti-Spam !!!
On 2002.06.25 00:45 Maarten ter Huurne wrote: > Note however that not all HTML mail is spam, there are users > trying to post HTML as well. And they shouldn't :-) HTML adds *nothing* to the content of someone's mail. > > Second: Users who aren't on the list can't mail to the list > > I was against this before, but the spamming is getting pretty > bad now, so I'll reconsider. Would anyone who has a problem with > no longer being able to post from non-subscribed addresses please > mail me personally? Depending on the number of objections we might > decide to try and implement this. I don't object, but I recall from discussions on this very same topic in the past, that the main reason *not* to implement this form of spam-block, was that one person should be able to use several accounts (e.g. a regular ISP and some webmail client). This could be solved in several ways: - make someone with multiple account subscribe for every account he/she has. Not ideal, but easy to implement :-) - allow 'mail aliases'. If a person subscribes, he/she can enter several e-mail addresses. The mailing list server should only send/forward mail to 1 address, but accept mail from all in the list. just my 2 cents, Eric -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Anti-Spam !!!
yeah, I proposed the white list stuff eMeSiX wrote: > > Mine name is vincent not jorge :-) > > - Original Message - > From: "d-fader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:49 AM > Subject: Re: Anti-Spam !!! > > > Jorge: > > > Just some stupid idea's to stop the spaming > > > If the spamming doesn't stop in a moth i will quit the list. > > > > Maarten: > > > Thank you for your suggestions. I cannot promise in what timeframe we > will > > > have anti-spam measures in place though. The MSX mailinglist is using > the > > > Stack infrastructure for free, so we cannot make hard demands, only ask > > > nicely. There are various other lists using the same infrastructure; > some > > > changes might have to be system-wide and will therefore affect other > lists > > as > > > well. But we will do our best. > > > > Well.. If it can't be settled, then we just have to settle it for > ourselves, > > I think almost anyone with a 24h inet connection is willing to serve the > > community... > > I even can run a spam-filtered-server that'll forward the messages sent to > > me e.g. > > We'll eventually arrange something Jorge, don't worry... > > > > > > Maybe someone can come up with some other ideas (cause as I read my ideas > I > > come to the solution they suck :D)? > > > > > > d-fader > > > > > > > > -- > > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: No more spam
yeah, me too... let's make a white list... where do i sign? :) bye! Fernando Arthur Tollendal Pacheco wrote: > > I would also prefer all html mail blocked. > > Fernando Tollendal > Brasilia > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Anti-Spam !!!
Hello... > This mail is for the people who mantain the MSX List > First: Kill *ALL* HTML mail I don't like it either, but some people can't resist to use HTML or even another format to send their mails in... > Second: Users who aren't on the list can't mail to the list Why shouldn't people who are not subscribed to the list not be able to send messages? > Third: If somebody starts spaming kill the user Nice try! Should we now kill you because the first reply you send on the spam message was as bad as the spam message itself (it only contained the text "I vote for")... > Just some stupid idea's to stop the spaming You're smart enouogh to see it ios stupid? > If the spamming doesn't stop in a moth i will quit the list. Start by deleting the spamm-messages you recieve, but before you do that, send the original message-header to SpamCop or another group of people who can take the appropriate actions to stop these people! For example, my ISP is using a blocklist to filter these kind of messages before they arrive at the costumer (me!)... --[ MARI ]-- -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Anti-Spam !!!
ooow... oopsie forgive me :) /me feels ashamed :) d-fader - Original Message - From: "eMeSiX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: Anti-Spam !!! > Mine name is vincent not jorge :-) > > - Original Message - > From: "d-fader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:49 AM > Subject: Re: Anti-Spam !!! > > > > Jorge: > > > Just some stupid idea's to stop the spaming > > > If the spamming doesn't stop in a moth i will quit the list. > > > > Maarten: > > > Thank you for your suggestions. I cannot promise in what timeframe we > will > > > have anti-spam measures in place though. The MSX mailinglist is using > the > > > Stack infrastructure for free, so we cannot make hard demands, only ask > > > nicely. There are various other lists using the same infrastructure; > some > > > changes might have to be system-wide and will therefore affect other > lists > > as > > > well. But we will do our best. > > > > Well.. If it can't be settled, then we just have to settle it for > ourselves, > > I think almost anyone with a 24h inet connection is willing to serve the > > community... > > I even can run a spam-filtered-server that'll forward the messages sent to > > me e.g. > > We'll eventually arrange something Jorge, don't worry... > > > > > > Maybe someone can come up with some other ideas (cause as I read my ideas > I > > come to the solution they suck :D)? > > > > > > d-fader > > > > > > > > -- > > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Anti-Spam !!!
Mine name is vincent not jorge :-) - Original Message - From: "d-fader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Anti-Spam !!! > Jorge: > > Just some stupid idea's to stop the spaming > > If the spamming doesn't stop in a moth i will quit the list. > > Maarten: > > Thank you for your suggestions. I cannot promise in what timeframe we will > > have anti-spam measures in place though. The MSX mailinglist is using the > > Stack infrastructure for free, so we cannot make hard demands, only ask > > nicely. There are various other lists using the same infrastructure; some > > changes might have to be system-wide and will therefore affect other lists > as > > well. But we will do our best. > > Well.. If it can't be settled, then we just have to settle it for ourselves, > I think almost anyone with a 24h inet connection is willing to serve the > community... > I even can run a spam-filtered-server that'll forward the messages sent to > me e.g. > We'll eventually arrange something Jorge, don't worry... > > > Maybe someone can come up with some other ideas (cause as I read my ideas I > come to the solution they suck :D)? > > > d-fader > > > > -- > For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html > -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
No more spam
I would also prefer all html mail blocked. Fernando Tollendal Brasilia -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
Re: Anti-Spam !!!
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:45:48AM +0200, Maarten ter Huurne wrote: > On Monday 24 June 2002 23:56, eMeSiX wrote: > > First: Kill *ALL* HTML mail > > Filtering out "" should kill most HTML, but maybe not > 100%. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "Content-Type: text/html" should do the trick, shouldn't it? > Note however that not all HTML mail is spam, there are users trying to > post HTML as well. Most of that is multipart, which is blocked already (same > filter which blocks Outlook worms). I would prefer all html mail blocked. Sean -- For info, see http://www.stack.nl/~wynke/MSX/listinfo.html
