[mb-style] NGS guidelines

2011-05-10 Thread Nikki
Hello,

As you probably know, Kuno and I have been working on adapting the 
guidelines for NGS. We wanted to finish before sending an email, but 
it's getting rather late (sorry), so I figured something is better than 
nothing...
By the way, the idea is that these guidelines will become official with 
NGS and then people can change them as they would any other guideline if 
they want to. We don't want a repeat of the release group situation 
(still no official guidelines, two years on...)

You can see what we have right now here - 
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:kuno/Style For the most part, we've not 
been trying to change guidelines, except where things are added or 
change because of NGS. Many of the pages have comments by me in 
【brackets like these】 with some explanations. Obviously they will be 
removed.

We've tried to incorporate all of the current official guidelines. Disc 
Number Style and Box Set Name Style will be deprecated, for hopefully 
obvious reasons (we may need new guidelines for box sets once people 
have had chance to try entering them in NGS).
Live Track Style, Featuring Artist Style and Versus Style still haven't 
been incorporated. If any other official pages are missing, please let 
us know.

Nikki

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Re: [mb-style] NGS guidelines

2011-05-10 Thread caramel
Hello,

I wanted to discover the new NGS style guideline...
In my first page read
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:kuno/Style/Track_and_release_titles, there
are some problems...

About the examples for capitalization:
confusion the waitress is not in lower-cases in MB but follows the English
rules (
http://musicbrainz.org/search/textsearch.html?type=trackquery=confusion+the+waitresshandlearguments=1
)
and the problem of artistIntent always raise !!

The first multi-lines example is not so clear too
in MB (
http://musicbrainz.org/release/aee61e32-40bf-43ad-b5ee-a7a6572e69a3.html ),
we find Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates instead of the
example.
The main title all-in-caps is here considered because it is a Japanese
release but the justification to keep this capitalization is discussable...
and it is the same about the use or not of Original Soundtrack.

It is better to use clear examples that match with the MB database records.

Olivier

2011/5/10 Nikki aei...@gmail.com

 Hello,

 As you probably know, Kuno and I have been working on adapting the
 guidelines for NGS. We wanted to finish before sending an email, but
 it's getting rather late (sorry), so I figured something is better than
 nothing...
 By the way, the idea is that these guidelines will become official with
 NGS and then people can change them as they would any other guideline if
 they want to. We don't want a repeat of the release group situation
 (still no official guidelines, two years on...)

 You can see what we have right now here -
 http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:kuno/Style For the most part, we've not
 been trying to change guidelines, except where things are added or
 change because of NGS. Many of the pages have comments by me in
 【brackets like these】 with some explanations. Obviously they will be
 removed.

 We've tried to incorporate all of the current official guidelines. Disc
 Number Style and Box Set Name Style will be deprecated, for hopefully
 obvious reasons (we may need new guidelines for box sets once people
 have had chance to try entering them in NGS).
 Live Track Style, Featuring Artist Style and Versus Style still haven't
 been incorporated. If any other official pages are missing, please let
 us know.

 Nikki

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Re: [mb-style] NGS guidelines

2011-05-10 Thread caramel
I forgot to mention the third example in multi-lines
The actual title of the release is This Is the Modern World / All Mod Cons
instead of This is the Modern World and All Mod Cons:
The two songs are separated by a slash following the general rules even if
on the cover there is a and and the English capitalization is applied Is
and not is.

Olivier

2011/5/10 Nikki aei...@gmail.com

 Hello,

 As you probably know, Kuno and I have been working on adapting the
 guidelines for NGS. We wanted to finish before sending an email, but
 it's getting rather late (sorry), so I figured something is better than
 nothing...
 By the way, the idea is that these guidelines will become official with
 NGS and then people can change them as they would any other guideline if
 they want to. We don't want a repeat of the release group situation
 (still no official guidelines, two years on...)

 You can see what we have right now here -
 http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:kuno/Style For the most part, we've not
 been trying to change guidelines, except where things are added or
 change because of NGS. Many of the pages have comments by me in
 【brackets like these】 with some explanations. Obviously they will be
 removed.

 We've tried to incorporate all of the current official guidelines. Disc
 Number Style and Box Set Name Style will be deprecated, for hopefully
 obvious reasons (we may need new guidelines for box sets once people
 have had chance to try entering them in NGS).
 Live Track Style, Featuring Artist Style and Versus Style still haven't
 been incorporated. If any other official pages are missing, please let
 us know.

 Nikki

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Re: [mb-style] NGS guidelines

2011-05-10 Thread Dr Andrew John Hughes
On 10 May 2011 07:39, Nikki aei...@gmail.com wrote:

snip...

 Live Track Style, Featuring Artist Style and Versus Style still haven't
 been incorporated. If any other official pages are missing, please let
 us know.


Is this just due to lack of time?  I think any discussion to drop/change these
needs discussion and, personally, I'd prefer we avoided doing it at
the same time
as the move to NGS.  That's going to cause enough change on its own.

 Nikki

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