Re: [mb-style] Vinyl: Single vs. EP
999 wrote: I added a lot of vinyl releases and often I don't know if it is an EP or a single. What do you think it should be, here are some examples: 1. 7'', TrackA / TrackB 2. 12'', TrackA / TrackB1, TrackB2 3. 12'', 2 tracks on each side I've come across 2 track releases that are labeled EPs and singles with 4 tracks. But want a general answer, because most releases don't have the word EP in their title. Sandor (Nine99/darkshyne) Since I'm collecting vinyls (1987) that's how I got it told from other DJ's and how it is used in common for electronic music: A Single release containes only one single track (and maybe with various mixes/versions of this track). A EP release containes at least two different tracks. A Remix release containes only remixed/reworked tracks. The format of a release (7, 10, 12, tape, CD, DAT, MD...) doesn't matter ! A clean/simple artist entry with examples for above mentioned release types - http://musicbrainz.org/artist/a77f6f2f-19a2-4648-9018-3ad3aa4c1b9b.html - Schika ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Vinyl: Single vs. EP
On Friday 24 March 2006 04:20, 999 wrote: I've come across 2 track releases that are labeled EPs and singles with 4 tracks. But want a general answer, because most releases don't have the word EP in their title. There is no general answer here I think. EP has become a marketing phrase, a bit like Limited Edition which i think is the reason the guideline says to mark a release as EP if it says so in the title. The length of the release doesn't seem to matter, I have 12 singles here that push album length and EPs that aren't even 10 minutes long. Ultimately it depends on how the release was marketed and the intent of the artist and something that can only really be decided on a per-release basis but generally proper EPs are relatively rare. I usually look upon an ep as being intended as a mini-album itself rather than an A track with supporting material, but there are exceptions even to this. -- PRAEst76 ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Vinyl: Single vs. EP
There is no general answer here I think. EP has become a marketing phrase, a bit like Limited Edition which i think is the reason the guideline says to mark a release as EP if it says so in the title. That's not true with vinyl though. EP was a specific size. SP was 7, EP was 10 (I actually remember 2 different sizes but I think 10 was more common) and LP was 12 which is why early 12 mixes were called long play singles way back when. This isn't true either - EPs were generally 7 singles way back when. 10s were largely Shellac 78s. EPs were singles which were too long to be eligible for chart entry (until about '67 when EPs were included in the singles charts). I think in later years the 10 just embodied the too long for single, not long enough for album idea because of their size. 12s released from about the 80s onwards which had more than two tracks were generally called Maxi-Singles but I think this was in the US only? Laters Simon ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
Re: [mb-style] Vinyl: Single vs. EP
On Friday 24 March 2006 13:55, Cristov Russell wrote: That's not true with vinyl though. EP was a specific size. SP was 7, EP was 10 (I actually remember 2 different sizes but I think 10 was more common) and LP was 12 which is why early 12 mixes were called long play singles way back when. I've a few 10 vinyls here and none of them are EPs. Most of the vinyl EPs I have are extended 7 discs, sometimes 33rpm. My knowledge and collection only goes back to the late 70s though. There is an article on wikipedia concerning the EP at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_play though I don't totally agree with some of it. -- PRAEst76 ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
[mb-style] Vinyl: Single vs. EP
I added a lot of vinyl releases and often I don't know if it is an EP or a single. What do you think it should be, here are some examples: 1. 7'', TrackA / TrackB 2. 12'', TrackA / TrackB1, TrackB2 3. 12'', 2 tracks on each side I've come across 2 track releases that are labeled EPs and singles with 4 tracks. But want a general answer, because most releases don't have the word EP in their title. Sandor (Nine99/darkshyne) ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
RE: [mb-style] Vinyl: Single vs. EP
Please put the format of the release into the annotation, then we'll have the information available once we're able to specify the physical media beyond the current album attributes. Currently, we're loosing lots of information if we try to fit the real ones into our limited scheme. regards, g0llum While there are 12 singles vinyl EPs were actually a different size (10 i think) and in some case were just singles too long for a standard play (7) and too short for LP (12). I'd say the same rules should apply and number of tracks isn't relevant but distinctive tracks are. If in example 3 several of the tracks are just remixes, I'd treat it as a single but if all of them are completly different I'd say EP. 1 2 I'd say are Single. ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style
