Re: [mb-style] artist type: project

2006-10-11 Thread Robert Kaye


On Oct 10, 2006, at 3:26 PM, Chris Bransden wrote:


i never felt it was resolved. i feel that group is a plural, person is
a singular, but project is pretty vague.

i agree with lauri's comments in the original discussion that if we're
to include project, we need collaboration, band, person and group, and
all their definitions need to be rock solid (which i feel is
impossible) to avoid edit wars.


What is the difference between a band and a group?

I could see adding a collaboration and a project type, but anything  
else starts getting too complicated.


Would anyone venture to write a one paragraph definition for each of  
these proposed types?


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Re: [mb-style] artist type: project

2006-10-10 Thread pankkake

We need it badly. I saw a lot of artists that could fit in this category.

On 10/10/06, Robert Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Was there a resolution on this issue? If so, I'd like to include this
in the next server release...

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Re: [mb-style] artist type: project

2006-10-10 Thread Steve Wyles

On Tue, 10 Oct 2006, Robert Kaye wrote:

Was there a resolution on this issue? If so, I'd like to include this in the 
next server release...




I believe it was agreed to add it and it was being tested on the staging 
server before implementation.


If I remember, it was accidently included in one of the mini-releases and 
backed out because it broke the lucene search.


Steve

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Re: [mb-style] artist type: project

2006-10-10 Thread Ryan McCabe
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:56:04PM +0200, pankkake wrote:
 We need it badly. I saw a lot of artists that could fit in this category.

I'd really like to see it, too. There are a bunch of releases attributed
to projects on the FAX (http://www.discogs.com/label/Fax+%2B49-69%2F450464)
label that it'd be appropriate for. Check the edit history for
Virtual Vices, Sultan, Silence, etc. If you're bored..


Ryan

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Re: [mb-style] artist type: project

2006-10-10 Thread Chris Bransden

i never felt it was resolved. i feel that group is a plural, person is
a singular, but project is pretty vague.

i agree with lauri's comments in the original discussion that if we're
to include project, we need collaboration, band, person and group, and
all their definitions need to be rock solid (which i feel is
impossible) to avoid edit wars.

personally i think it's unnecesary. some bands have a key figure who
orchestrated the whole thing, but i feel they're still groups, just
with only one static member. what about things like NIN where it is
him in the studio, a full band (group) live?

i don't see what's wrong with just having them as groups, and then
showing who the main member is by using 'additional' flags on all the
others, if you think there's good reason for this, but even that can
be iffy!

On 10/10/06, Robert Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Was there a resolution on this issue? If so, I'd like to include this
in the next server release...

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Re: [mb-style] artist type: project

2006-10-10 Thread Kerensky97

If this is what I think it is I'm all for it (NOT the solo project discussion
right?).  But it's been a while since it was discussed and I can't seem to
find the resolution.  How exactly is it being implemented and how will it
affect the grouping of artists?  Is there a link to the test server where
this was running for us to play with?

I don't want to be a pest but a quick recap might help forgetful people like
me and people new to MB in the last few months.

-Dustin (Kerensky97)


Ryan McCabe wrote:
 
 On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:56:04PM +0200, pankkake wrote:
 We need it badly. I saw a lot of artists that could fit in this category.
 
 I'd really like to see it, too. There are a bunch of releases attributed
 to projects on the FAX
 (http://www.discogs.com/label/Fax+%2B49-69%2F450464)
 label that it'd be appropriate for. Check the edit history for
 Virtual Vices, Sultan, Silence, etc. If you're bored..
 
 
 Ryan
 
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Re: [mb-style] artist type: project

2006-10-10 Thread Joan Whittaker
Discussion starts on the July mbstyle - first post by Beth, second from me:
http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-July/003269.ht
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Joan

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 If this is what I think it is I'm all for it (NOT the solo project
discussion
 right?).  But it's been a while since it was discussed and I can't seem to
 find the resolution.  How exactly is it being implemented and how will it
 affect the grouping of artists?  Is there a link to the test server where
 this was running for us to play with?

 I don't want to be a pest but a quick recap might help forgetful people
like
 me and people new to MB in the last few months.

 -Dustin (Kerensky97)


 Ryan McCabe wrote:
 
  On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 11:56:04PM +0200, pankkake wrote:
  We need it badly. I saw a lot of artists that could fit in this
category.
 
  I'd really like to see it, too. There are a bunch of releases attributed
  to projects on the FAX
  (http://www.discogs.com/label/Fax+%2B49-69%2F450464)
  label that it'd be appropriate for. Check the edit history for
  Virtual Vices, Sultan, Silence, etc. If you're bored..
 
 
  Ryan
 
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Re: [mb-style] artist type: project

2006-10-10 Thread Wendell Hicken
My 2 cents are that the issue of types probably needs to be fleshed out better. As I recall, collaborations were not received as positively as projects, partly getting stuck on a matter of definitions. But it's a slippery slope adding one new type at a time
Nonethless, I'm not opposed to project. I'd merely like to see collaboration as well (and I have a formal definition floating around if we can't find it in the mail archives).
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