Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] libcue licensing problem

2009-04-23 Thread Jochen Keil
Hi Max,

Max Kellermann wrote:
 Avuton forwarded a mail from Svend Sorensen to me:
 
 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Svend Sorensen sv...@ciffer.net wrote:
 Did you give permission to change the license to libcue[1]?
 I did not. Jochen Keil sent me an email asking if he could relicense
 parts of cuetools under a BSD license, but I never got around to
 replying.

That's nice that he found the time to answer Avuton..
Until today (23.04.09) i did not receive *any* mail from Svend.

 What's wrong with the old license?
 While this is basically your own personal problem

GPL is to restrictive *imho*.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/bsdl-gpl/article.html

 You didn't respond to my former questions regarding that license
 change

Honestly, i can't recall those..

 code from MPD on 30th of April (7 days from now), unless you can
 convince me that your code is legal.

I'm tempted to say go for it, then take down everything on sf and leave
everyone else in the dust. I've got my stuff here, why should i care to
share it? I'm really upset about this. What is going on here behind my back?

However, there is a modified COPYRIGHT notice as well as some updated
copyright notifications in several files in the git repo on sf.net.
Please have a look and tell me if you are fine with it.

Jochen



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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] libcue licensing problem

2009-04-23 Thread Max Kellermann
On 2009/04/23 14:47, Jochen Keil jochen.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm tempted to say go for it, then take down everything on sf and
 leave everyone else in the dust. I've got my stuff here, why should
 i care to share it? I'm really upset about this. What is going on
 here behind my back?

Nothing is going on behind your back.  I asked you half a dozen of
times on IRC to clean up your licensing problem, and others also
pointed out that you're violating Svend's copyright.  Since you didn't
respond to any of those, Avuton asked Svend instead.

Please understand that you must not change the license of somebody
else's work without his permission.  Getting no response simply means
no!  That's not a valid excuse.

 However, there is a modified COPYRIGHT notice as well as some updated
 copyright notifications in several files in the git repo on sf.net.
 Please have a look and tell me if you are fine with it.

'Copyright (c) 2009, Jochen Keil' marks code which is released as
2-clause BSD license

You added your name to all source files, even those which you didn't
touch at all (e.g. time.c).  The license of those files isn't obvious,
but it should be.

Suggestion: add the full BSD license to all files which you created
(e.g. rem.c), and all others stay 100% GPL according to COPYING, even
if you modified them.

Max

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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] libcue licensing problem

2009-04-23 Thread Jochen Keil
Hi Max,

Max Kellermann wrote:
 Nothing is going on behind your back.  I asked you half a dozen of
 times on IRC to clean up your licensing problem, and others also
 pointed out that you're violating Svend's copyright.  Since you didn't
 respond to any of those, Avuton asked Svend instead.

i don't want to argue about that with you but i told everyone that i
sent an email and never got a reply. I don't understand why Svend
replied to Avuton instead of me, doesn't he like my email address?

 Please understand that you must not change the license of somebody
 else's work without his permission.  Getting no response simply means
 no!  That's not a valid excuse.

Since the copyright hasn't been updated for almost two years now, i felt
more like this is abandoned code. What this implies legally is of my
scope as i'm not a lawyer. It might well have been a mistake to just
relicence it to BSD but i had to make a decision.
What's more important: i never ever wanted to steal someones work nor
label it as mine. That's why i imported the whole cuetools repo, made
the work to transparently move every source file and keep all the
copyright notices where appropriate.

 'Copyright (c) 2009, Jochen Keil' marks code which is released as
 2-clause BSD license
 You added your name to all source files, even those which you didn't

That's why i added this:
(and only with this notice alone, if there is an additional copyright
notice about Svend Sorensen, GPL applies!)

 touch at all (e.g. time.c).

That's been a careless copy and paste error. I fixed it now, thanks for
your remark.

 Suggestion: add the full BSD license to all files which you created
 (e.g. rem.c), and all others stay 100% GPL according to COPYING, even
 if you modified them.

That's a good idea and i applied it.

One last thing i'd like to add. There have been a lot of modifications
done by me. Some may be trivial but some are quite under the hood and
fixed severe mistakes. If it weren't for the lexer (tokenizer) or the
parser (grammar) i might have written this as well myself. Unfortunately
there is not much room left for writing the tokenizer/grammar in a
different way in lex/yacc. All in all i'm not happy with GPL. I don't
want to make a fuss here though since i think that it's more important
to share the work so that everyone can benefit from it.

All the updated copyright notices are now on git at sf.net.
If there are no objections anymore i'll repackage the latest release asap.

Jochen



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