Re: [mutt] hook permanance across folders

[Nico Hailey]

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 04:44:39PM -0500, Rüdiger Kuhlmann wrote:
> 
> Hi Nico!
> > "
> > folder-hook blue 'my_hdr From: Nico Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
> > folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr From: Nico Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
> > folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr Approved: x'
> > folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr To: ftxgen-command@lists'
> > "
> 
> Try folder-hook . 'unmy_hdr Approved To'.

Thanks! That solves my problems.

nico

Re: [mutt] hook permanance across folders

[Rüdiger Kuhlmann]

Hi Nico!

>--[Nico Hailey]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> "
> folder-hook blue 'my_hdr From: Nico Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
> folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr From: Nico Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
> folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr Approved: x'
> folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr To: ftxgen-command@lists'
> "

Try folder-hook . 'unmy_hdr Approved To'.

Yours, Rüdiger.

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Re: Strange 'lists' behavior

[Michael Elkins]

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 05:05:28PM -0500, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> Everything seems to work fine now with one exception. When I identify
> a mailing list with 'lists', it treats it like it's in 'alternates' --
> anything addressed to the list will show "To mutt-users" in the index
> rather than show who it's from.

In your $index_format variable, change the %L to %F for those folders where
you don't want to see the list the mail was sent to/cc.

me

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Re: hook permanance across folders

[Michael Elkins]

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 04:00:20PM -0500, Nico Hailey wrote:
> I have a question. How do you unset folder-hooks when you are
> no longer in that folder?
> 
> "
> folder-hook blue 'my_hdr From: Nico Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
> folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr From: Nico Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
> folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr Approved: x'
> folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr To: ftxgen-command@lists'
> "

You need to use the so-called default hook to unset these.  Before the
other folder-hook commands, put

folder-hook ~A unmy_hdr approved from to

this will cause those headers to disappear when you change to other mailboxes.

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Re: Having problem with replay information

[Michael Elkins]

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 03:15:14PM -0600, Samuel A. Mullen wrote:
> I'm using mutt on my box (smullen.oppunl.com) however my email address
> is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the mail server is running on oppunl.com).  How
> do I get mutt to use the correct domain name.  setting hostname doesn't
> seem to work.

You can either configure your MTA (such as sendmail, qmail, etc) to properly
masquerade your headers, or put a line with your real email address, such as
my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
in your ~/.muttrc

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Strange 'lists' behavior

[Rich Lafferty]

I've just caused the *strangest* thing. My muttrc was getting old and
was filled with a lot of cruft (a bunch of variables being set to their
defaults, which was making it hard to manage). I just went through 
the Reference section of the Mutt manual and kept (or thought I kept)
only the variables that weren't defaults. 

Everything seems to work fine now with one exception. When I identify
a mailing list with 'lists', it treats it like it's in 'alternates' --
anything addressed to the list will show "To mutt-users" in the index
rather than show who it's from.

To make this even stranger, I can get rid of it by sourcing my old
.muttrc; even if I source my old muttrc and then source my new one 
again, the behavior goes away.

The old muttrc is at ,
and the new one is at .
I'm using mutt 1.0i on linux/ppc; I've appended the output of
"mutt -v" below my .signature.

What on earth am I missing?

  -Rich

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+HAVE_GPG  -BUFFY_SIZE 
-EXACT_ADDRESS  +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL="/usr/bin/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail"
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Re: save-hook list ignored after upgrade to 1.1.1i

[David DeSimone]

Mark J. Bynum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ever since I upgraded to development version 1.1.1i I can't seem to get my
> save-hook to work right.

List processing has changed on Mutt 1.1.

> fcc-save-hook ~l ~/Mail/lists/%B
> fcc-save-hook '~l' ~/Mail/lists/%B
> fcc-save-hook '~l' =/lists/%B

The ~l pattern matches "subscribed" lists only.  You probably want to
change all your "lists" commands to "subscribe" commands, anyway, to
maintain previous behavior.

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[Fwd: Having problem with replay information] Re-Try

[Samuel A. Mullen]

"Samuel A. Mullen" wrote:
> 
> First, because my mutt isn't doing replies well right now, I'm forced to
> use Netscape Nausiator's mail client.  A thousand appologies.
> 
> I tried joining the AfterStep mailing list today (using mutt), but when
> I did, my e-mail was bounced back because the domain on my email address
> did not exist.
> 
> I'm using mutt on my box (smullen.oppunl.com) however my email address
> is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the mail server is running on oppunl.com).  How
> do I get mutt to use the correct domain name.  setting hostname doesn't
> seem to work.
> 
> Below is the email I received back from the mailing list I mentioned
> 
> Thanks,
> Sam


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Subject:
subscribe  
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1.0pre3i 

subscribe
AfterStep

Having problem with replay information

[Samuel A. Mullen]

First, because my mutt isn't doing replies well right now, I'm forced to
use Netscape Nausiator's mail client.  A thousand appologies.

I tried joining the AfterStep mailing list today (using mutt), but when
I did, my e-mail was bounced back because the domain on my email address
did not exist.

I'm using mutt on my box (smullen.oppunl.com) however my email address
is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the mail server is running on oppunl.com).  How
do I get mutt to use the correct domain name.  setting hostname doesn't
seem to work.

Below is the email I received back from the mailing list I mentioned

Thanks,
Sam

hook permanance across folders

[Nico Hailey]

I have a question. How do you unset folder-hooks when you are
no longer in that folder?

I set an Approved: header when I am in my moderation folder,
but if I change into the regular list folder the Approved:
header is still there... here's what that part of my
.muttrc looks like:

"
folder-hook blue 'my_hdr From: Nico Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr From: Nico Hailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'
folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr Approved: x'
folder-hook gen/ftxgen 'my_hdr To: ftxgen-command@lists'
"

note that blue is the folder I switch into after I've been
in gen/ftxgen and though, my From: header is correct, I still
get the Approved: and To: from the previous folder.

thanks
nico, slightly new to mutt but liking it.

save-hook list ignored after upgrade to 1.1.1i

[Mark J. Bynum]

Hey,

Ever since I upgraded to development version 1.1.1i I can't seem to get my
save-hook to work right. I used to use 96.3 (development), and 1.0pre3.
Here is what I have tried:

fcc-save-hook ~l ~/Mail/lists/%B
fcc-save-hook '~l' ~/Mail/lists/%B
fcc-save-hook '~l' =/lists/%B

The original line (the first one) worked correctly before. Yes, the list
names are in the lists command. Infact I haven't changed any configuration
file since I upgraded. My other fcc-save-hooks work fine.

Also how could I get a ~a added to the pattern matching language to designate
aliases? Just like it was when I used elm, i.e. 'fcc-save-hook ~a =~a'.

Thanks,

Mark Bynum
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: .signature in a reply message

[Telsa Gwynne]

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 08:43:01AM -0500 or thereabouts, Subba Rao wrote:
> 
> Is there anyway to include the original message, for a reply, below the 
> .signature? My personal preferance is to send a clean reply with my sig 
> and then followed by the original message. Right now, the message is 
> above the sig and for each reply, I have to yank the sig and paste above 
> the original message.
> 
> Any pointers appreciated. Thank you in advance.

I have seen this accomplished by including the original email as an
attachment following the reply (with the sig attached to the reply
rather than the attachment). 

I have to say that I dislike it intensely. I recently received a message
where there were several of these. There were in fact one -thousand-
lines of "reply-to-reply-to-reply", "reply-to-reply", "reply", "original
message", and well over one -hundred- of these attachments in reverse 
order. If they had been accomplished in the "quoted material at the
top; replies follow in chronological order" fashion, it might have been
bearable. That's the logical consequence of what happens when you put
the original at the end. 

I hadn't realised until ranting about this that some mailers include a 
facility to - er - read backwards... (boggle.)

I gather that the mailer which is responsible for this 'convention'
is Lotus Notes, which insists that you put the quoted material
underneath. However well it works on an internal mail system, I really
think it's a bad idea for sending to people outside that company,
when these other people won't necessarily have mailers that read 
backwards. In elm, for example, you can't even page backwards through 
the same message. (Okay, so this is a misfeature in elm. There's
still plenty of people stuck with it.) So if you're on a mailing list 
and you read a reply to something you haven't yet received, you have to 
read the reply, and -then- the original message, and then go back and 
re-read the message again to see how the reply relates to the original.
Doing this once is bad. Doing it repeatedly is horrid :(

If you must do it, include the the original email as an attachment.
But (IMHO IMHO IMHO, YMMV) better by far is to stick to the idea of
putting the quoted stuff (trimmed!) and the name of that person at
the top, and the reply beneath.

Pretty please? :)

Only other pointer I can think of is RFC 1855, and I'm afraid it
says, in section 3.1.1, "General Guidelines for mailing lists and
NetNews", of your suggestion, "Don't do it":

   Linkname: rfc1855 - Netiquette Guidelines
URL: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
  summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
  enough text of the original to give a context.  This will make
  sure readers understand when they start to read your response.
  Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
  postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a
  response to a message before seeing the original.  Giving context
  helps everyone.  But do not include the entire original!

Some people will doubtless say that RFC 1855 is outdated, of course :)

Telsa

Re: .signature in a reply message

[John P . Looney]

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 08:43:01AM -0500, Subba Rao mentioned:
> Is there anyway to include the original message, for a reply, below the .signature?
> My personal preferance is to send a clean reply with my sig and then followed by the
> original message. Right now, the message is above the sig and for each reply, I have
> to yank the sig and paste above the original message.

 It's going against the traditional way of sending mail, and more like the
early Windows-based "Groupware" clients (CCmail and MSMail) of the early
90's that's lingered on in horrible clients like Outlook & Lotus Notes.

 Wonder is there an RFC as to how to write emails..."No caps", "Use '>' to
indent a replyed message", "Reply after relevant sections of replyed mail,
don't quote it all" etc.


Kate


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Re: .signature in a reply message

[Mark Mielke]

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 08:43:01AM -0500, Subba Rao wrote:
> Is there anyway to include the original message, for a reply, below
> the .signature?  My personal preferance is to send a clean reply
> with my sig and then followed by the original message. Right now,
> the message is above the sig and for each reply, I have to yank the
> sig and paste above the original message.  Any pointers
> appreciated. Thank you in advance.

I think most people hate that.

mark

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Re: deleted messages and arrows and key sequences

[David DeSimone]

David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was trying to figure out a way to get the arrow keys to behave like
> that, but I couldn't find the symbol for a shifted arrow :-)  I'm sure
> the key code/sequence exists, so ...

There is no keycode for a shifted arrow.  A standard VT100 terminal
won't generate a different code for shifted arrows, so xterm's and other
vt100 emulators won't generate them, either.

You might have fun with resources and such to get such a key to be
generated, but I don't know if it's worth it.  :)

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.signature in a reply message

[Subba Rao]

Is there anyway to include the original message, for a reply, below the .signature?
My personal preferance is to send a clean reply with my sig and then followed by the
original message. Right now, the message is above the sig and for each reply, I have
to yank the sig and paste above the original message.

Any pointers appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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Re: Problems using send-hooks?

[Jackal]

Thanks...I think the default-hook did the trick ... THanks man!

On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 07:43:57AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> ...and then Jackal said...
> % I have some problems with the send-hooks in my muttrc.  It does not seem to
> % work as I expect it.  Maybe someone can enlighten me.
> 
> I can try...
> 
> 
> % 
> % I have these two send-hooks in my muttrc
> % 
> % send-hook '~t@' 'my_hdr From: Default Name  ; set 
>sendmail='/path/to/sendmail -oi -oem -f default@email'"
> % send-hook '~t@work' 'my_hdr From: Work Name  ; set 
>sendmail='/path/to/sendmail -oi -oem -f workname@work'"
> 
> Hmmm...  Seems a bit complicated to me.
> 
> First, I'd just use a default hook (send-hook .) instead of another
> match.  Second, I'd just use a my_hdr instead of messing with sendmail.
> 
> So you get something like
> 
>   send-hook . 'my_hdr From: Default Name '
>   send-hook "~t @work' 'my_hdr From: Work Name '
> 
> for your .muttrc file.  The my_hdr should take care of sendmail and the
> from envelope, IIUC.  And the default hook will definitely match once
> you're not sending to someone at work.
> 
> 
> % 
> % i thought that would mean that whenever I send a mail addressed to anyone with
> % a @work address mutt would set the sendmail as per the send-hook rule and the 
>From: as well.
> % 
> % But if i send a work email and then send a personal one...it does not set the
> % sendmail back to the default@email but the From is correct
> % 
> % anybody knows what I am talking about here?
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> :-D
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Re: deleted messages and arrows and key sequences

[David T-G]

Mikko --

...and then Mikko Hänninen said...
% Richard Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Sat, 11 Dec 1999:
% > - In the index of a folder, I'd like the arrow key to scroll over deleted
% 
% The other answers you've gotten have been good, but I'd just like to
% point out that even with the default bindings (?) you can scroll up/down

Yep.


% in the index including the deleted messages if you use J/K for movement.
% No need to type in the msg number, though that works too.

That's what I like, since I'm a vi guy.


% 
% It's probably more sensible to rebind the arrow keys though...  Just
% pointing out an alternative approach that I personally use.

I was trying to figure out a way to get the arrow keys to behave like
that, but I couldn't find the symbol for a shifted arrow :-)  I'm sure
the key code/sequence exists, so ...  Is there a way to tell mutt to
bind a particular key code instead of j or J  or \cv or \eV or such?


:-D
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Re: Problems using send-hooks?

[David T-G]

Hello!

...and then Jackal said...
% I have some problems with the send-hooks in my muttrc.  It does not seem to
% work as I expect it.  Maybe someone can enlighten me.

I can try...


% 
% I have these two send-hooks in my muttrc
% 
% send-hook '~t@' 'my_hdr From: Default Name  ; set 
sendmail='/path/to/sendmail -oi -oem -f default@email'"
% send-hook '~t@work' 'my_hdr From: Work Name  ; set 
sendmail='/path/to/sendmail -oi -oem -f workname@work'"

Hmmm...  Seems a bit complicated to me.

First, I'd just use a default hook (send-hook .) instead of another
match.  Second, I'd just use a my_hdr instead of messing with sendmail.

So you get something like

  send-hook . 'my_hdr From: Default Name '
  send-hook "~t @work' 'my_hdr From: Work Name '

for your .muttrc file.  The my_hdr should take care of sendmail and the
from envelope, IIUC.  And the default hook will definitely match once
you're not sending to someone at work.


% 
% i thought that would mean that whenever I send a mail addressed to anyone with
% a @work address mutt would set the sendmail as per the send-hook rule and the From: 
as well.
% 
% But if i send a work email and then send a personal one...it does not set the
% sendmail back to the default@email but the From is correct
% 
% anybody knows what I am talking about here?

HTH


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Problems using send-hooks?

[Jackal]

I have some problems with the send-hooks in my muttrc.  It does not seem to
work as I expect it.  Maybe someone can enlighten me.

I have these two send-hooks in my muttrc

send-hook '~t@' 'my_hdr From: Default Name  ; set 
sendmail='/path/to/sendmail -oi -oem -f default@email'"
send-hook '~t@work' 'my_hdr From: Work Name  ; set 
sendmail='/path/to/sendmail -oi -oem -f workname@work'"

i thought that would mean that whenever I send a mail addressed to anyone with
a @work address mutt would set the sendmail as per the send-hook rule and the From: as 
well.

But if i send a work email and then send a personal one...it does not set the
sendmail back to the default@email but the From is correct

anybody knows what I am talking about here?

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