Re: Looking for a nice color scheme

2000-05-08 Thread Steffan Hoeke

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:24:56PM +0200, Marius Gedminas muttered:
> On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 11:40:55PM -0500, Corey G. wrote:
> > Mutt Group,
> > 
> > I am looking for what I would call a nice color scheme for Mutt.  I
> > currently use the scheme listed below but I would like to see what other
> > people have come up with.  I tinkered around but I have very little
> > artistic ability.
> 
> Looks like it's time to create mutt.themes.org :-)  Seriously, it would
> be nice to have a web page with screenshots of various color schemes and
> corresponding muttrc files.
I second that motion 
I'm still looking for a cool color config 

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 Steffan

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Re: move messages (not copy)

2000-05-08 Thread Thomas Roessler

On 2000-05-08 23:17:15 -0500, Ivan Fernandez wrote:

> Hi. I've recently switched to mutt (1.1.14), and there
> is some stuff I haven't been able to work out yet.
> Mainly, I want to know if there is a command to move
> messages from a mailbox to another, rather than copy
> them. I haven't seen it in the manual or help pages.

It's called "save" and bound to "s" by default.

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move messages (not copy)

2000-05-08 Thread Ivan Fernandez

Hi. I've recently switched to mutt (1.1.14), and there is some stuff I
haven't been able to work out yet. Mainly, I want to know if there is a
command to move messages from a mailbox to another, rather than copy
them. I haven't seen it in the manual or help pages.

Something else I want to do is filter out some messages from my inbox,
so they are not seen. It's actually the "Mail System Internal Data"
pseudo-message which sendmail (I guess) leaves on my spool folder; I'm
sure other people have come across this. I've tried 

folder-hook /var/spool/mail/my-inbox set "l!~f 'Mail System Internal Data'\n"

but I get an "unknown command" error.

TIA

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Re: user must domain must exist

2000-05-08 Thread Corey G.

I put this in my .muttrc for starting vim and it handles word wraps
great.

set editor = 'vim -c "set tw=72" +1'

Corey

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:08:37PM -0500, Kelly Scroggins wrote:
> I've been trying to figure the linebreak thing out.  I'm sorry about that.
> I'm trying to use vim's textwidth or wrapmargin but I must have done 
> something wrong.  So I've manually entered a  on each of these
> lines.
> 
> If you know what I should put in my ~/.vimrc file I'm all ears.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 05:27:07PM -0500, Kelly Scroggins wrote:
> > 
> > Well,
> > 
> > I guess I made a big beginers mistake.  I made these changes to my ~/.muttrc 
>but I didn't close mutt and reopen mutt to apply the changes.
> ohhh... 
> 
> > my_hdr From: Kelly Scroggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > set sendmail="/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > 
> well... maybe you shouldn't set the command line switch directly... but it
> will do the same as the .muttrc line suggested by me...
> 
> btw.: please use proper line breaks... editing an answer to your mail is a
> pain... Thank you. (I intentionally left your mistakes in!)
> 
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Re: user must domain must exist

2000-05-08 Thread Kelly Scroggins

I've been trying to figure the linebreak thing out.  I'm sorry about that.
I'm trying to use vim's textwidth or wrapmargin but I must have done 
something wrong.  So I've manually entered a  on each of these
lines.

If you know what I should put in my ~/.vimrc file I'm all ears.

Thanks,
Kelly



On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 05:27:07PM -0500, Kelly Scroggins wrote:
> 
> Well,
> 
> I guess I made a big beginers mistake.  I made these changes to my ~/.muttrc but 
I didn't close mutt and reopen mutt to apply the changes.
ohhh... 

> my_hdr From: Kelly Scroggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> set sendmail="/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> 
well... maybe you shouldn't set the command line switch directly... but it
will do the same as the .muttrc line suggested by me...

btw.: please use proper line breaks... editing an answer to your mail is a
pain... Thank you. (I intentionally left your mistakes in!)

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Autoview/HTML problem

2000-05-08 Thread John P. Verel

Hi.  I'm having a problem with autoview with Netscape.  What I want to
do is have mutt launch Netscape if not running, use as remote if
already running.

My .mailcap includes:

text/html; netscape -remote 'openURL(%s)'; copiousoutput;

My .muttrc includes:

auto_view text/html

If I have Netscape open, all works fine.  However, when I add
test=RunningNetscape at the end of the above .mailcap line, I get an
error message and mutt dies.

Similarly, if I add this line to follow the .mailcap line above --

text/html; netscape 'openURL(%s)'; copiousoutput

-- I get an error message.

I'd have thought this would have launched Netscape.  I've tried to get
this according to the manual, but so far, no luck.

Your thoughts, please?

Thanks.  John



Re: mutt variables

2000-05-08 Thread ino-waiting

> Eric Smith (Mon 08.0500-19:47):

> How may I check on the current state of a mutt variable? (likeis possible
> in vi?
like so:  "set ?

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re-arranging the sample muttrcs

2000-05-08 Thread Charles Curley

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:54:22AM -0500, Jeremy Blosser muttered:
-> > On Sun 05/07/00 at 11:40 PM -0500, "Corey G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> > 
-> > > I am looking for what I would call a nice color scheme for Mutt.  I
-> > > currently use the scheme listed below but I would like to see what other
-> > > people have come up with.
-> 
-> Hmmm... maybe I should split the configs section of the web site up to
-> offer more than just full muttrcs?  A section on useful hooks, colors,
-> tricks, etc?

YES! Much more useful. But a lot of work.

For example:

Color schemes
Fred's color scheme for purpose X
Harry's color scheme for purpose Y

Save Hooks
A save hook to do A
Another save hook to do A
A save hook to do B

Try to pull things together to show how various variable and functions
play together. For example, with send hooks you need to set up defaults,
THEN your cusomizations. So I have this in my .muttrc:


# globals, apply to all emails.
send-hook . unmy_hdr Reply-To:
send-hook . 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
send-hook . 'set attribution="On %d, %n wrote:"'
send-hook . set signature=~/.signatures/.signature

# Specific addresses: set up replies. If you are going to add a new hook
# here, make sure the relevant varibale is also set in the defaults.

# The mutt users list
send-hook mutt- 'set attribution="On %d, %n muttered:"'

# The Wyo LP list
send-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' "set 
signature=~/.signatures/conan_the_anarchist.txt; \
my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"

# Mail sent to the Wyo LP webmaster
send-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED]' "set signature=~/.signatures/.sig.wyolp.web; \
my_hdr From: Charles Curley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"



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Re: Looking for a nice color scheme

2000-05-08 Thread Thomas Ribbrock

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 11:54:22AM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote:

> Hmmm... maybe I should split the configs section of the web site up to
> offer more than just full muttrcs?  A section on useful hooks, colors,
> tricks, etc?

Excellent idea.

Thomas
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Re: Unbroken long lines (was Re: user must ...)

2000-05-08 Thread Gary Johnson

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:13:10PM +0200, Martin Macok wrote:

> Yes, this is usual problem. I solved it with:
> 
> set editor="vim -c \"set textwidth=74\" -c \"set noai\" -c \
>   \"set nocindent\" -c \"set fo=tcrq\""
> 
>  ... and hitting   gq}  and similar in ViM when composing an answer to
> such unbroken long lines.
> 
> Another solutions?

A variation on that would be to put all those vim commands into your
.vimrc instead.

Since mutt creates a file for replies in /tmp and since the name of that
file begins with "mutt-", I have in my .vimrc:

au BufNewFile,BufRead /tmp/mutt-* set expandtab

so that tabs that I add are always expanded to spaces in my e-mail
replies.  You could do something similar with

au BufNewFile,BufRead /tmp/mutt-* set tw=74 noai nocin fo=tcrq

I haven't tried multiple settings like that, but from

:help autocommand-pattern

it looks like it should work.

As for the commands themselves, I don't know why you would need to set
"noai".  I also have in my .vimrc file:

au BufNewFile,BufRead *.c,*.h set cindent

so that C indenting is set only for C source and header files.  That
would eliminate the need for "nocindent" here as well as when editing
other text files.

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Unbroken long lines (was Re: user must ...)

2000-05-08 Thread Martin Macok

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 04:34:17PM +0200, Christian Ordig wrote:
> btw.: please use proper line breaks... editing an answer to your mail is
> a pain... Thank you. (I intentionally left your mistakes in!)

Yes, this is usual problem. I solved it with:

set editor="vim -c \"set textwidth=74\" -c \"set noai\" -c \
\"set nocindent\" -c \"set fo=tcrq\""

 ... and hitting   gq}  and similar in ViM when composing an answer to
such unbroken long lines.

Another solutions?

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Re: Forcing a rescan of folder

2000-05-08 Thread Benjamin Korvemaker

This might be on the way to tracking this down.

New mail arrived while sending mail (between hitting "y" and regaining
control of mutt). Mutt didn't catch new mail arriving, and couldn't be
motivated to check the mailbox until more new mail arrived.

Ben


On Mon, May 01, 2000 at 05:55:57PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote:
> Benjamin Korvemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Can I force mutt to rescan the current folder (I'm using maildirs)?  $
> > only commits the changes, but doesn't pick up the new mail in the box,
> > yet gbuffy lets me know there's more mail.
> 
> There isn't a function to cause a re-scan, because Mutt is simply
> supposed to do it without being told.  There is a variable $timeout
> which tells Mutt how often to do it while waiting for commands, and
> there is another variable $mail_check which determines how often to do
> it when you are entering commands.  They should have reasonable
> defaults, though.
> 
> Anyway, Mutt is supposed to notice new mail without being told to look
> for it.
> 
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Re: Forcing a rescan of folder

2000-05-08 Thread Benjamin Korvemaker

On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 12:36:46PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote:
> Mikko Hänninen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I use Maildir over NFS.  I find myself frequently in a situation where
> > I see in my incoming mail log that I've gotten mail in a particular
> > folder while I'm reading it, but Mutt doesn't seem to notice it.  It
> > certainly takes much longer than the 5 seconds that the $mail_check
> > value would indicate, assuming I understood its meaning correctly... 
> > I wonder if this could possibly be some sort of NFS caching issue or
> > something?
> 
> That would be quite unfortunate, as NFS is one of the main reasons to
> prefer maildir over other mailbox formats.  Mutt does, though, appear to
> pay attention to the modified time on the directory, as an optimization
> for checking for new messages.  So it looks like that could well be the
> issue.  Try playing around with storing files in a directory from one
> NFS client, then examining the modified time of the directory from
> another client.

Ugh. Hmm. it would seem NFS may be to blame. New mail was sent at 11:57,
and presumably arrived within a few minutes. As can be seen, the "tmp"
directory was modified at 11:58, but the "new" dir hasn't.  Presumably,
something might be wanted. (Using mutt-1.1.14)

Fingers might be pointed at procmail (3.14), as I've checked (a) the
machine I'm using, (b) the machine where the disk physically lives and (c)
the machine doing the mail, and they all agree on the times coming out of
stat.


fort-kent[0-101]% stat *
  File: "cur"
  Size: 1536 Filetype: Directory
  Mode: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: (  398/benjamin)  Gid: (   14/grad)
Device:  0,13  Inode: 202758Links: 2
Access: Mon May  8 12:21:58 2000(0.00:07:06)
Modify: Mon May  8 10:56:33 2000(0.01:32:31)
Change: Mon May  8 10:56:33 2000(0.01:32:31)

  File: "new"
  Size: 512  Filetype: Directory
  Mode: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: (  398/benjamin)  Gid: (   14/grad)
Device:  0,13  Inode: 318215Links: 2
Access: Mon May  8 12:27:51 2000(0.00:01:13)
Modify: Mon May  8 10:18:35 2000(0.02:10:29)
Change: Mon May  8 12:29:02 2000(0.00:00:02)

  File: "tmp"
  Size: 512  Filetype: Directory
  Mode: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: (  398/benjamin)  Gid: (   14/grad)
Device:  0,13  Inode: 202782Links: 2
Access: Mon May  8 02:58:16 2000(0.09:30:48)
Modify: Mon May  8 11:58:37 2000(0.00:30:27)
Change: Mon May  8 11:58:37 2000(0.00:30:27)



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Re: mutt variables

2000-05-08 Thread Gary Johnson

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 07:47:12PM +0200, Eric Smith wrote:
> How may I check on the current state of a mutt variable? (likeis possible
> in vi?

Almost like you do in vi, except that the syntax is a little different.
>From the mutt manual, section 3.20 Setting Variables:

Using the enter-command function in the index menu, you can query the
value of a variable by prefixing the name of the variable with a
question mark:

 set ?allow_8bit

The question mark is actually only required for boolean variables.

Note that in order to enter the enter-command function, you must first
type a colon, so the example above would be typed

:set ?allow_8_bit

And for non-boolean variables, you can omit the question mark, e.g.,

:set pager

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Re: Looking for a nice color scheme

2000-05-08 Thread Marius Gedminas

On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 11:40:55PM -0500, Corey G. wrote:
> Mutt Group,
> 
> I am looking for what I would call a nice color scheme for Mutt.  I
> currently use the scheme listed below but I would like to see what other
> people have come up with.  I tinkered around but I have very little
> artistic ability.

Looks like it's time to create mutt.themes.org :-)  Seriously, it would
be nice to have a web page with screenshots of various color schemes and
corresponding muttrc files.

However my artistic abilities are limited by bugs in slang/ncurses that
prevent my colors from appearing correctly.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: viewing html emails in mutt

2000-05-08 Thread Marius Gedminas

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 12:03:15PM +0100, John P . Looney wrote:
>  Has anyone noticed that sometimes, when viewing a mail with Lynx, through
> mutt, that they fight over the terminal ?

Not with mutt, but lynx used to fight with Midnight Commander this way
on my system.  The reason was an extra `&' in /usr/lib/mc/mc.ext that
sent lynx into background unnecessarily (well, maybe that did work with
gmc, but definitely not with mc in an xterm).  I suggest you to check
your mailcap for spurious ampersands.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: viewing html emails in mutt

2000-05-08 Thread ino-waiting

> John P . Looney (Mon 08.0500-12:03):

>  Has anyone noticed that sometimes, when viewing a mail with Lynx, through
> mutt, that they fight over the terminal ? It seems as if some events go to
> mutt, some to lynx ? (it's nasty when you press 'q' to kill lynx, and mutt
> quits...

did you specify `needsterminal' in .mailcap?
(text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal)

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Re: user must domain must exist

2000-05-08 Thread Mrinal Kalakrishnan

Hi,

Christian Ordig typed:
> well... maybe you shouldn't set the command line switch directly... but it
> will do the same as the .muttrc line suggested by me...

IIRC, that (envelope_from) is a new feature in 1.1.x, so I think it
won't work for him.

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Re: New mail in MH style folders, even if there is none

2000-05-08 Thread Christian Ordig

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 06:45:21PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
> I don't know about procmail, but the official definition is something
> along the lines of "a directory containing the three subdirectories
> named new, cur and tmp".  And oh, all the dirs need to be on the same
> filesystem, and no symlinks or anything allowed I think.
Well, I still don't really know how procmail decides whether it's a
Maildir or a regular folder with one file per eMail... but it works fine
now.

Thanks

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Re: mutt variables

2000-05-08 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Eric Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000:
> How may I check on the current state of a mutt variable? (likeis possible
> in vi?

Either

  :set ?var

or

  :set var=

where  is a keypress.


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mutt variables

2000-05-08 Thread Eric Smith

How may I check on the current state of a mutt variable? (likeis possible
in vi?
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Re: Looking for a nice color scheme

2000-05-08 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000:
> Hmmm... maybe I should split the configs section of the web site up to
> offer more than just full muttrcs?  A section on useful hooks, colors,
> tricks, etc?

I would think that this would be useful.  For one, my .muttrc is not
really a single file, rather than a whole bunch of them under a .mutt
dir.  So it's not suitable for giving out on the web (as a single file
anyway) but I could easily provide parts of it, especially as the files
tend to be like .mutt/save-hooks etc.


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Re: Looking for a nice color scheme

2000-05-08 Thread Jeremy Blosser

> On Sun 05/07/00 at 11:40 PM -0500, "Corey G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am looking for what I would call a nice color scheme for Mutt.  I
> > currently use the scheme listed below but I would like to see what other
> > people have come up with.

Hmmm... maybe I should split the configs section of the web site up to
offer more than just full muttrcs?  A section on useful hooks, colors,
tricks, etc?

BTW, for those who have given links to me and wondering why they aren't
showing up yet, it's because I've been waiting on 1.2 to do a bunch of
changes at once.  I may just do them this week, though.

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qmail-inject

2000-05-08 Thread ino-waiting

every once in a while, but rarely, i get "qmail-inject: illegal option -- B"
when handing off a mail for outbound delivery.  the number is "100".  i let
mail be handled by:

set sendmail="/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject"  # how2deliver
set sendmail_wait=15

=nothing= makes a mail so flagged by the "sendmail" option leave my
machine.  whats wrong?  there is no "-B" option anywhere!

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Re: New mail in MH style folders, even if there is none

2000-05-08 Thread Mikko Hänninen

Christian Ordig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000:
> What criteria is used by procmail to recognize a Maildir folder?

I don't know about procmail, but the official definition is something
along the lines of "a directory containing the three subdirectories
named new, cur and tmp".  And oh, all the dirs need to be on the same
filesystem, and no symlinks or anything allowed I think.


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Re: New mail in MH style folders, even if there is none

2000-05-08 Thread Christian Ordig

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 04:30:48PM +0200, Christian Ordig wrote:
> > Yes it should, but maybe you have an old version of procmail that
> > doesn't support Maildir.  The latest version is 3.14, and versions
> > before that don't support it.
> well... I still have 3.11pre7 ... I'll update and check again...
it finally works after compiling and installing procmail 3.14...

Thanks.

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Re: New mail in MH style folders, even if there is none

2000-05-08 Thread Christian Ordig

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:34:00AM -0400, Hardy Merrill wrote:
> Yes - I recently experienced the same problem.  Mikko suggested to me
> that he had the same problem, and that it might be related to the folders
> sitting on an NFS filesystem - and that Mutt may have a bug working with
> NFS filesystems.  He suggested getting the Mutt source and recompiling
> with the "--enable-nfs-fix" option.  So I did the same thing, and it
> worked for me too.
> 
> So, you might try getting the Mutt source, and recompiling with the
> "--enable-nfs-fix" option.
Thanks for the hint, but my folders aren't mounted via NFS... they're 
local ones...

cu.

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Re: New mail in MH style folders, even if there is none

2000-05-08 Thread Christian Ordig

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 08:02:01AM -0400, Pete Toscano wrote:
> christian,
> 
> the only way i was able to "fix" this bug was to switch to maildir
> format folders.  overall, it was the right thing to do (my mail store is
> nfs mounted to a few different machines, all putting mail in the mail
> store via procmail with maildir patch).
Yes, I've also switched to Maildir and everything is fine now... the
only drawback is, that nearly no other MUA supports Maildir... whereas MH
is mainly supported...

cu.

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Re: Looking for a nice color scheme

2000-05-08 Thread Christian Ordig

On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 11:40:55PM -0500, Corey G. wrote:
> Mutt Group,
> 
> I am looking for what I would call a nice color scheme for Mutt.  I
> currently use the scheme listed below but I would like to see what other
> people have come up with.  I tinkered around but I have very little
> artistic ability.
looks quite like a mc color scheme... some things like quoting need some 
work... ;-)

## Color
mono  messagebold
color index brightwhite blue ~N
color normalwhite   blue

color messagewhite  red
color error  brightyellow   red
color indicator  blue  white
color status black  cyan
color tree   brightyellow  blue
color signature  red   blue
color attachment brightyellow   red
color search brightyellow   red
color tilde  brightmagenta blue
color markersbrightmagenta blue
#color bold   brightblack   blue
#color underline  green blue
color quoted brightblue blue
color quoted1magenta   blue
color quoted2red   blue
color quoted3green blue
color quoted4cyan  blue
color quoted5blue  blue
color quoted6magenta   blue
color quoted7red   blue
color quoted8green blue
color quoted9cyan  blue
color hdrdefault brightred blue
color header brightmagenta blue  "^(from):"
color header brightwhiteblue  "^(subject):"
#color header default   blue  "[ \t]+[^:]*$"
color body   brightcyanblue  \
  "((ftp|http|https)://|(file|mailto|news):|www\\.)[-a-z@0-9_.:]*[a-z0-9](/[^][{} 
\t\n\r\"<>()]*[^][{} \t\n\r\"<>().,:])?"
color body   brightcyanblue  "[-a-z_0-9.+]+@[-a-z_0-9.]+"
color body   red   blue  "(^| )\\*[-a-z0-9äöüß*]+\\*[,.?]?[ \n]"

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Re: New mail in MH style folders, even if there is none

2000-05-08 Thread Christian Ordig

On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:35:57AM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
> Christian Ordig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Mon, 08 May 2000:
> > I have to tell procmail manually to use folder/new/ or mutt won't find the 
> > newly arrived mail... is THIS the right way to use procmail, shouldn't
> > procmail recognize the Maildir-style and put the mail to folder/new/ 
> > automaticly?
> 
> Yes it should, but maybe you have an old version of procmail that
> doesn't support Maildir.  The latest version is 3.14, and versions
> before that don't support it.
well... I still have 3.11pre7 ... I'll update and check again...
What criteria is used by procmail to recognize a Maildir folder?
 
> The reason why it "kind of" works is that procmail does support MH
> (or whatever the folder format is) which has files in one directory,
> and it treats that folder/new dir as a MH mail folder.  But the names
> that the files get aren't "proper" Maildir files, and also you end up
> having to specify the new subdir too.
They also don't get proper MH names (they aren't numbered...)

Thanks.

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Re: user must domain must exist

2000-05-08 Thread Christian Ordig

On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 05:27:07PM -0500, Kelly Scroggins wrote:
> 
> Well,
> 
> I guess I made a big beginers mistake.  I made these changes to my ~/.muttrc but I 
>didn't close mutt and reopen mutt to apply the changes.
ohhh... 

> my_hdr From: Kelly Scroggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> set sendmail="/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> 
well... maybe you shouldn't set the command line switch directly... but it
will do the same as the .muttrc line suggested by me...

btw.: please use proper line breaks... editing an answer to your mail is a
pain... Thank you. (I intentionally left your mistakes in!)

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Re: viewing html emails in mutt

2000-05-08 Thread John P . Looney

On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 05:16:13AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:
> > This is related to Mutt because maybe in a near future we see html
> > emails as the norm, and not the exception, and some kind of html rendering
> > engine gets implemented into Mutt.
> > 
> > What's your opinion related to this?
> 
> get a nice html-renderer like lynx and have it decode html-messages from
> out of mutt.  works any day, any time.  configuration:  rtfm.

 Has anyone noticed that sometimes, when viewing a mail with Lynx, through
mutt, that they fight over the terminal ? It seems as if some events go to
mutt, some to lynx ? (it's nasty when you press 'q' to kill lynx, and mutt
quits...

 The only think I can think of is that mutt and lynx aren't expecting the
same version of slang:

xena [1]  ldd `which mutt`
libslang.so.1 => /usr/lib/libslang.so.1 (0x4001d000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40061000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4007e000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
jplooney : xena : ~/ Mon May  8 12:01:37  
xena [0]  ldd `which lynx`
libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x4001d000)
libslang.so.1 => /usr/lib/libslang.so.1 (0x4002c000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4007)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4008e000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
xena [0]  ls -l /usr/lib/libslang.so*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   17 Apr  4 19:58 /usr/lib/libslang.so -> 
libslang.so.1.2.2
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   20 Apr  4 19:58 /usr/lib/libslang.so.0 -> 
/usr/lib/libslang.so
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   17 Apr  4 19:58 /usr/lib/libslang.so.1 -> 
libslang.so.1.2.2
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   256489 Mar 21  1999 /usr/lib/libslang.so.1.2.2

 Any ideas what could be happening ?

Kate

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Re: address book?

2000-05-08 Thread Russell Hoover

On Mon 05/08/00 at 06:12 AM -0500, Kelly Scroggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I get one of the addresses into a message I'm composing?

After you strike "m" to compose a message, you'll be at the "To:" prompt.  When
you are there, strike TAB, and all your aliases will be visible.  You can then
do "t" to tag any alias(es) (or just hit RETURN) and that/those alias(es) will
then be in the "To: field of your soon-to-be-outgoing-message's header.

This is pretty basic stuff -- it's all in the manual at mutt.org, which you
should take a look at.

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Re: New mail in MH style folders, even if there is none

2000-05-08 Thread Hardy Merrill

Christian Ordig [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Hallo,
> 
> I am using MH style folders to store my mail...
> 
> I start mutt (1.1.11i) with the -y command line switch abd it shows me
> my folders and every one is marked to have new Mail...
> even if I've read all the mail in my folders and change back to the 
> folder overview mutt tells me there is new mail in the folders...
> 
> Another scenario:
> imagine 2 folders A and B...
> I open A and read all my mails ... then open B ... when entering B mutt
> tells me there arrived new mail in A, but it hasn't (I am offline!)
> 
> Any ideas?

Yes - I recently experienced the same problem.  Mikko suggested to me
that he had the same problem, and that it might be related to the folders
sitting on an NFS filesystem - and that Mutt may have a bug working with
NFS filesystems.  He suggested getting the Mutt source and recompiling
with the "--enable-nfs-fix" option.  So I did the same thing, and it
worked for me too.

So, you might try getting the Mutt source, and recompiling with the
"--enable-nfs-fix" option.

Hope this helps.

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Re: address book?

2000-05-08 Thread Kelly Scroggins


Okay, I did that and I can add aliases to the file.  But how do I use it?

How do I get one of the addresses into a message I'm composing?

kelly


On Mon 05/08/00 at 01:34 AM -0500, Kelly Scroggins
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a default address book for mutt?

I don't think there is.  But the way you create it is this.
Put these lines in your .muttrc:

  set  alias_file=~/.mutt_aliases# Where I keep my aliases.
  source ~/.mutt_aliases # Don't forget to *source* the aliases file.

Then create the file .mutt_aliases, and put your aliases there in this format:

alias kelly  Kelly Scroggins   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Re: New mail in MH style folders, even if there is none

2000-05-08 Thread Pete Toscano

christian,

the only way i was able to "fix" this bug was to switch to maildir
format folders.  overall, it was the right thing to do (my mail store is
nfs mounted to a few different machines, all putting mail in the mail
store via procmail with maildir patch).

pete

On Sat, 06 May 2000, Christian Ordig wrote:

> Hallo,
> 
> I am using MH style folders to store my mail...
> 
> I start mutt (1.1.11i) with the -y command line switch abd it shows me
> my folders and every one is marked to have new Mail...
> even if I've read all the mail in my folders and change back to the 
> folder overview mutt tells me there is new mail in the folders...
> 
> Another scenario:
> imagine 2 folders A and B...
> I open A and read all my mails ... then open B ... when entering B mutt
> tells me there arrived new mail in A, but it hasn't (I am offline!)
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Re: Why Maildir? (was Re: mailboxes lists)

2000-05-08 Thread Pete Toscano

basically, i use maildir because my mail store is nfs mounted and i
receive mail from a few different machines, all processed through
procmail with maildir patch.  this was growing hair with my previous mh
format directories.

pete

On Sat, 06 May 2000, Bennett Todd wrote:

> 2000-05-06-07:48:49 Roberto Suarez Soto:
> > Anyway, and though I know this is one of the recursive questions
> > of the list, what are the advantages that you find in maildir over
> > mailbox?
> 
> It's a recurring question, no doubt, but revisiting it periodically
> is healthy. Here's what comes to my mind at the moment.
> 
> I've been using Maildir for a couple of years now, started when I
> tried out qmail several years back, when I switched to Postfix I
> used procmail with maildir patches to stick with the Maildir format.
> I subscribe to dozens of lists, with varying amounts of traffic,
> totals c. 600 messages a day, and keep all email forever, so my
> archives are a valuable resource.
> 
> I like having the ability to use standard Unix tools to manipulate
> my archives, with each message available as a distinct file.
> Migrating messages to different folders by date, hooking a search
> engine up, doing broad analyses, looking for historical data by
> sender, subject, keyword, whatever; I find these all very pleasing
> to do with a one-message-per-file format.
> 
> And at least for me, it's very, very comforting knowing that any
> sort of code --- MTAs like qmail and Postfix, LDAs like procmail and
> maildrop, MUAs like mutt, and programs complex or trivial, written
> in C, Perl, Bourne Shell, whatever --- can all simply add and remove
> messages to and from folders, with perfect safety, without ever
> needing to worry about locking, all at the same time.
> 
> -Bennett



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Re: IMAP folders

2000-05-08 Thread Chris Green

On Fri, May 05, 2000 at 02:08:30PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> >
> > I can hit ' ' when browsing to show the mail index where a folder has
> > both mail and sub-folders in it.
> 
> there are two operations for folders which have mail and
> subfolders.  selects a subfolder,  goes to the message
> index. This was done because previously such folders were listed twice
> (once for messages and once for subfolders), and people _hated_ that.
> 
Should the inbox appear as both INBOX and INBOX. then as the other
folders don't?

> > Since Courier IMAP uses it's INBOX both as its default mailbox and as
> > the root for its sub-folder hierarchy I'm just about bound to have at
> > least one folder which has both mail and folders in it.
> > 
> > The really frustrating thing is that there's no way to *browse* the
> > IMAP folders when 'set folder=' points to my local mail.
> 
> well, there is - you can press tab instead of enter when you do 'c'
> {host}INBOX. I'm not sure that works until you've established a
> connection with the server, though. 
> 
Aha, I'd forgotten about TAB (or maybe I never knew), I'll go and have
a play

You're right - one has to actually connect to the IMAP server (with,
for example 'c' '{x-1.net:50143}INBOX.' before the TAB will work.

Ah even more ha!  *That's* how I got messed up before, no wonder I
couldn't repeat it.

There is a problem, once there one is stuck on the IMAP server and I
can't see a way to get back to browsing the local folders.  Any 'c'
command given after having used TAB automatically prompts with
'{x-1.net:50143}INBOX!', the ! doesn't help either.  If I do a 'c' and
then erase the '{x-1.net:50143}INBOX!' prompt and enter just '!' I get
'/postbox/chris is not a directory', quite right, it's my local inbox.
The only way I can get back to local folders is by entering one
explicitly - thus entering 'c' '/postbox' and selecting the 'chris'
mbox seems to unscramble things.

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Re: address book?

2000-05-08 Thread Russell Hoover

On Mon 05/08/00 at 01:34 AM -0500, Kelly Scroggins
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a default address book for mutt?

I don't think there is.  But the way you create it is this.
Put these lines in your .muttrc:

  set  alias_file=~/.mutt_aliases# Where I keep my aliases.
  source ~/.mutt_aliases # Don't forget to *source* the aliases file.

Then create the file .mutt_aliases, and put your aliases there in this format:

alias kelly  Kelly Scroggins   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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address book?

2000-05-08 Thread Kelly Scroggins

Is there a default address book for mutt?

I saw a couple of address books for mutt on Freshmeat.net.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Kelly