Re: feature request

2001-07-13 Thread Erwin Kaiser

Thanks!
Erwin



Re: Newsgroups

2001-07-13 Thread Ricardo SIGNES

In a message dated Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 04:06:50PM -0700, Ryan Cook wrote:
 OK...I don't see it anywhere in the man pages or the Mutt manual.  Is
 there a way to subscribe to newsgroups through the use of Mutt...or
 view newsgroups in Mutt...like if I want to sign up for
 alt.comp.os.linux or something?

Mutt is a mail user agent, not a news client.  I suggest you google for
'slrn'.  It's my preferred news agent.

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Re: Newsgroups

2001-07-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Ricardo SIGNES [mutt-users] 12/07/01 20:11 -0400: 
 In a message dated Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 04:06:50PM -0700, Ryan Cook wrote:
  OK...I don't see it anywhere in the man pages or the Mutt manual.  Is
  there a way to subscribe to newsgroups through the use of Mutt...or
  view newsgroups in Mutt...like if I want to sign up for
  alt.comp.os.linux or something?
 
 Mutt is a mail user agent, not a news client.  I suggest you google for
 'slrn'.  It's my preferred news agent.
 
Mutt has several patches available (Volkov is my favorite) for reading news.

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save to different folder

2001-07-13 Thread Szabo Attila

Hi ,

How can I set a different folder to save messages from
the mutt mailing-list automatically when I quit.
Is it possible ??

And if I want to save the messages
sent from mutt-users@... to a different folder,
I set it like this:
save-hook mutt-users@ +mutt
It does'nt work. Why

it's good for linux@:
save-hook linux@ +linux is OK.Why is that???

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Re: save to different folder

2001-07-13 Thread darren chamberlain

Szabo Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 
07/13/2001:
 How can I set a different folder to save messages from
 the mutt mailing-list automatically when I quit.
 Is it possible ??
 
 And if I want to save the messages
 sent from mutt-users@... to a different folder,
 I set it like this:
 save-hook mutt-users@ +mutt
 It does'nt work. Why
 
 it's good for linux@:
 save-hook linux@ +linux is OK.Why is that???

Save-hook is expecting a regex as it's first argument (or whatever),
mutt-users@ is not being translated literally:

  3.13.  Specify default save filename

  Usage: save-hook [!]pattern filename

  This command is used to override the default filename used when
  saving messages.  filename will be used as the default filename
  if the message is From: an address matching regexp or if you are
  the author and the message is addressed to: something matching
  regexp.

  See ``matching messages'' for information on the exact format
  of pattern.

Try:

save-hook mutt\\-user@ +mutt

(darren)

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Re: from-hook

2001-07-13 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian

Lorenzo Martignoni [mutt-users] 13/07/01 11:10 +0200: 
 I use reverse_name option and my sender address changes.
 Is possible to use send-hook and perform action according the sender
 address instead of the recipient address? 

Yes.

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Re: macro stopped working

2001-07-13 Thread Luke Ross

Hi

I don't know why it broke, but the following works:

# Replaced by:
macro pager Escz :set pager_index_lines=0\n:macro pager z Z \toggle
zoom\\n

macro pager Z :set pager_index_lines=4\n:source
/home/lcr299/.mutt/tzoom\n

macro pager z Escz 'toggle zoom'

Where /home/lcr299/.mutt/tzoom contains:
macro pager z ESCz toggle zoom

HTH,

Luke

On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:44:54AM -0400, Michael Hong wrote:
 
 Does anyone know what's wrong with this macro? It was working in 1.2.5
 but now the second time I press 'z' mutt says the key is not bound or
 'macro loop detected'.
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Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Walt Mankowski

On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 03:33:04PM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote:
 Have you considered Maildir format?  It was designed specifically
 to compensate for the limitations of mbox format, specifically
 locking and speed.

I've done some experimenting with Maildirs.  I've found it to be quite
a bit *slower* than mbox, particularly on big folders.  This is on a
Linux ext2 partition.  I had one Maildir that was an archive of a
high-traffic mailing list.  It had around 15,000 messages and was over
50 megs in size.  Mutt was taking over a minute to open the folder.
The equivalent mbox folder took just a few seconds.

Walt


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Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt

On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 08:56:08AM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote:

 I've done some experimenting with Maildirs.  I've found it to be quite
 a bit *slower* than mbox, particularly on big folders.  This is on a
 Linux ext2 partition.  I had one Maildir that was an archive of a
 high-traffic mailing list.  It had around 15,000 messages and was over
 50 megs in size.  Mutt was taking over a minute to open the folder.
 The equivalent mbox folder took just a few seconds.

Yeah, but try deleting a mail from that 50MB mailbox. Boy, this will
suck.
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Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Walt Mankowski

On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 02:59:00PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
 Yeah, but try deleting a mail from that 50MB mailbox. Boy, this will
 suck.

Depends where the messages are that you're deleting.  I find I'm
generally deleting the newest messages, which are at the end of the
file and don't take long at all to delete.  I open the folder to check
for new messages a lot more often than I delete old messages.
(Remember, I'm using this mostly as an archive.)

Walt

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auto save to diff. folders

2001-07-13 Thread Szabo Attila

Hi,

On exitting mutt is it possible to save
messages automatically dependig on headers to different folders.
For example: mails from mutt-users go to the mutt folder???

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Re: auto save to diff. folders

2001-07-13 Thread David Champion

On 2001.07.13, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Szabo Attila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On exitting mutt is it possible to save
 messages automatically dependig on headers to different folders.
 For example: mails from mutt-users go to the mutt folder???

Sure.  For example:

macro index q tag-pattern~C 
mutt-users@entertag-prefixsave-message=muttfolderentersync-mailboxexit

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Re: auto save to diff. folders

2001-07-13 Thread David Champion

On 2001.07.13, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  On exitting mutt is it possible to save
  messages automatically dependig on headers to different folders.
  For example: mails from mutt-users go to the mutt folder???
 
 macro index q tag-pattern~C 
mutt-users@entertag-prefixsave-message=muttfolderentersync-mailboxexit

If you have many such selections, it might work to store them in a
separate file:

% cat .mutt/exit-actions
push tag-pattern~C mutt-users@entertag-prefixsave-message=muttenter
push tag-pattern~C dinner-club@entertag-prefixsave-message=dinnerenter
push tag-pattern~C gnupg-users@entertag-prefixsave-message=gnupgenter

And to write your quit macro differently:
macro index q enter-commandsource ~/.mutt/exit-actionsentersync-mailboxexit

I think that should work, anyway.

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Re: Newsgroups - having trouble accessing mutt builds on acadia?

2001-07-13 Thread Louis LeBlanc

Sorry to the list admin for sending from the wrong folder :)  Axe that
message, here it is again:
-
Hey all.  It looks like someone had trouble accessing the URI on
acadia I gave in my last message.  I don't know what the trouble is,
but I promise it is there.  Feel free to try again.  If it is easier,
I will put it up for anonymous ftp here:

ftp://acadia.ne.mediaone.net/pub/mutt/

http://acadia.ne.mediaone.net/mutt/

Of course, if you are running FreeBSD, you can get the port with the
vvv patches at http://mutt.org.ua/download/

Sorry for the hassle.

Lou


On 07/12/01 08:18 PM, Louis LeBlanc sat at the `puter and typed:
 Yes, but not with the default build.  If you are using Mandrake or 
 RH6.2, you can get rpms of the vvv patch build here:
 http://acadia.ne.mediaone.net/mutt/
 
 Otherwise, follow the link from the mutt page for the Volkov patches.  
 Scratch that.  The link: http://mutt.kiev.ua/ redirects to this:
 http://mutt.org.ua/download/
 You can get the latest stable or development and anything in between.
 
 I am using 1.3.19 (little on the adventurous side, but no problems).
 
 It is pretty slick though.  Get to know server-hooks.
 
 I also suggest just taking all his patches for your build, and no 
 others.  He has the basics integrated, and leaving anything out turns 
 into a headache.
 
 HTH
 
 Lou
 
 On 07/12/01 04:06 PM, Ryan Cook sat at the `puter and typed:
  OK...I don't see it anywhere in the man pages or the Mutt manual.  Is
  there a way to subscribe to newsgroups through the use of Mutt...or
  view newsgroups in Mutt...like if I want to sign up for
  alt.comp.os.linux or something?
  
  Thanks,
  /rc
  -- 
  When I read about the evils of drinking, I stopped reading.
  
 
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   of making a disagreeable person keep his distance.
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Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Justin R. Miller

Thus spake Walt Mankowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Depends where the messages are that you're deleting.  I find I'm
 generally deleting the newest messages, which are at the end of the
 file and don't take long at all to delete.  I open the folder to check
 for new messages a lot more often than I delete old messages.
 (Remember, I'm using this mostly as an archive.)

What about searching? 

-Justin
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Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread darren chamberlain

Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 07/13/2001:
 Thus spake Walt Mankowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  Depends where the messages are that you're deleting.  I find I'm
  generally deleting the newest messages, which are at the end of the
  file and don't take long at all to delete.  I open the folder to check
  for new messages a lot more often than I delete old messages.
  (Remember, I'm using this mostly as an archive.)
 
 What about searching? 

What I like most about mbox, and the main reason I haven't moved
to Maildir, is the searchability of a single file.  Yes, I know
you can use grep -r, and most indexers will index multiple files,
but you get filenames like ~/Mail/mutt-users/new/57834896890 or
whatever Maildir uses to name its files.

Though, to bring it back to vfolders (remember vfolders?), it
would be nice to able to say something like SELECT Subject FROM
MAIL WHERE From LIKE %mom% ORDER BY Date DESC LIMIT 1 and get
the latest message from my mom...

(darren)

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founder of civilization.
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Refreshing screen in windoze!

2001-07-13 Thread Sean Dempsey

Hi all,

I am a new convert to mutt, and am generally very pleased with it.

I have a mailserver running on my box at home, and I use putty from wherever
I am to check my mail.  However both my workplace and my girlfriend won't
budge from using Windoze, so I use the windoze ssh client 'putty' from these
machines.  

My problem is that unless I refresh my screen every now and again, it
becomes a mess.  Has anyone else any recommendations as to a Windoze ssh
client that I could use?

I am also convinced the problem has got worse since upgrading to Mutt 1.3.19i,
but this may be my imagination!

Thanks,
Sean 



Re: Refreshing screen in windoze!

2001-07-13 Thread Justin R. Miller

Thus spake Sean Dempsey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Has anyone else any recommendations as to a Windoze ssh client that I
 could use?

I usually recommend PuTTY or SecureCRT (you can find it at
www.vandyke.com).  It's commericial, but it's very good.

-Justin
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Re: Refreshing screen in windoze!

2001-07-13 Thread Petri Kelottijaervi

That depends on the configuration of the terminal answerback string
in PuTTY, the terminal your server thinks you use and even the
keyboard layout on the windows box (according to Mr. Tatham, who
says that sverok (.se dvorak) won't work).

I'd recommend you try the devel snapshot of PuTTY. I don't think
PuTTY itself did anything wrong, it's likely to be related to the
configuration clash that I suspect.

Otherwise, SSH (www.ssh.com) has a free, but huge, bad and slow win
client, free for non-commercial use.

Personally, I'm sitting in PuTTY writing this in Mutt and elvis. :)

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Re: Refreshing screen in windoze!

2001-07-13 Thread Andy Wingo

People on this list told me about mindterm [1], and I'm quite pleased
with it. It's a java applet that runs an ssh client on whatever machine
it's run on. For some reason having to do with signed/unsigned java
applets, without paying the mindterm people you can only connect via ssh
to the machine that serves up mindterm (eg, I connect to
www.example.com, I can only ssh to www.example.com). There's a debian
package available. It's made by Mindbright, at mindbright.com.

Two caveats:
1) I haven't gotten it to work with color. I run TERM=vt100 mutt.
2) mindterm 2 isn't GPL, mindterm 1 is. I use 1.

HTH,

Andy

[1] humm, it seems it's changed 
addresses on me: http://www.appgate.org/products/mindterm/



Re: vfolders

2001-07-13 Thread Walt Mankowski

On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 10:58:43AM -0400, darren chamberlain wrote:
 Justin R. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 07/13/2001:
  What about searching? 
 
 What I like most about mbox, and the main reason I haven't moved
 to Maildir, is the searchability of a single file.  Yes, I know
 you can use grep -r, and most indexers will index multiple files,
 but you get filenames like ~/Mail/mutt-users/new/57834896890 or
 whatever Maildir uses to name its files.

Of course you can do some level of searching directly through mutt.  I
don't remember searches taking that much longer under Maildirs, but I
honestly didn't do much in the way of comparison.  It was the long
delay in first opening the folder that drove me to convert the big
folders back to mbox.

Maildirs have some neat advantages of their own.  For example it's
very easy to merge two folders together.  I send mail from my laptop,
my desktop, and a shell account at my ISP.  I end up with sent folders
on all three places, but all my received mail is on my desktop.  Since
Maildir stores each message in its own file, and since the filename
contains the hostname, I'm guaranteed to not have any name collisions.
All I have to do is periodically scp or rsync everything in
~/Mail/sent/cur on my laptop and ISP to ~/Mail/sent/cur on my desktop,
and suddenly everything is in one place.

 Though, to bring it back to vfolders (remember vfolders?), it
 would be nice to able to say something like SELECT Subject FROM
 MAIL WHERE From LIKE %mom% ORDER BY Date DESC LIMIT 1 and get
 the latest message from my mom...

You'd find that easier that /~f Mom?

Walt


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Executing a function when Mutt exits

2001-07-13 Thread Duke Normandin


Hi...

I want to run a Bash 'function' automatically upon Mutt exiting. Can this
be done from my /etc/muttrc file? If not, how about a shell script? TIA..
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