Re: problem viewing mail

2007-09-26 Thread Dilip M
On 9/23/07, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...snip...

 MAILDIR=$HOME/.maildir##you better make sure it exists

Does the maildir exists? I believe MAILDIR should be someting

-- 
Dilip


Creating folders in IMAP - how?

2007-09-26 Thread Chris G
How does one create new folders (as in places to save new mailboxes)
when using IMAP?

E.g. I want to create a folder called 'howTos' in which I will save
several distinct mailboxes called, say, 'build', 'links', etc.

If it's of relevance this is on an MS Exchange server with IMAP
access.

-- 
Chris Green


Re: Creating folders in IMAP - how?

2007-09-26 Thread Colby W.
On Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 12:41:18PM +0100, Chris G wrote:
 How does one create new folders (as in places to save new mailboxes)
 when using IMAP?
 
 E.g. I want to create a folder called 'howTos' in which I will save
 several distinct mailboxes called, say, 'build', 'links', etc.
 
 If it's of relevance this is on an MS Exchange server with IMAP
 access.
 
 -- 
 Chris Green

Use 'c' then '?' to pull up a list of known folders, then use 'C' to
create a new one. You may also need to add a list of your mailboxes to
.muttrc or source a separate file. For example:

# ~/.muttrc
source ~/.mutt/mutt_mailboxes

# ~/.mutt/mutt_mailboxes
mailboxes imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/IMAPFolderName1
mailboxes imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/IMAPFolderName2
# et cetera ...

 --- Colby



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Re: More on non-ascii chars in headers

2007-09-26 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobica
On 25-09-2007, at 21h 35'01, Kyle Wheeler wrote about Re: More on non-ascii 
chars in headers
 On Tuesday, September 25 at 11:16 PM, quoth Ionel Mugurel Ciobica:
  Eyolf =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8strem?=
 
 That is not Unicode. Unicode would be this:
 
 | Eyolf =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=98strem?=
 
 This is the (safe) way to transfer non-ASCII information over the net.
 
 They're *both* safe ways to transfer non-ASCII information over the 
 net. In fact, the iso-8859-1 encoding is probably safer, as more 
 software supports latin-1 encoding than supports utf-8 encoding.
 

Yes, I meant the (Q)mime way is the way to transfer non-ASCII...
iso-8859-1 is obsolete. iso-8859-15 is a replacement but more and more
people use UTF-8. Although some people still use bare ascii...


Ionel


Re: Creating folders in IMAP - how?

2007-09-26 Thread Chris G
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 07:14:40AM -0600, Colby W. wrote:
 On Wed Sep 26, 2007 at 12:41:18PM +0100, Chris G wrote:
  How does one create new folders (as in places to save new mailboxes)
  when using IMAP?
  
  E.g. I want to create a folder called 'howTos' in which I will save
  several distinct mailboxes called, say, 'build', 'links', etc.
  
  If it's of relevance this is on an MS Exchange server with IMAP
  access.
  
  -- 
  Chris Green
 
 Use 'c' then '?' to pull up a list of known folders, then use 'C' to
 create a new one. You may also need to add a list of your mailboxes to
 .muttrc or source a separate file. For example:
 
... but that creates a mailbox, I want to create a folder in which I
can put other mailboxes.

Mutt knows about folders (as oppsoed to mailboxes) in IMAP as it marks
them in the directory listing with a '+' sign.

Aha, but what you can do is create ABC/ABC123 which will create a
'folder' ABC with a mailbox ABC123 in it which is what I want.

 # ~/.muttrc
 source ~/.mutt/mutt_mailboxes
 
 # ~/.mutt/mutt_mailboxes
 mailboxes imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/IMAPFolderName1
 mailboxes imap://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/IMAPFolderName2

I don't seem to need to add any mailboxes commands, navigation once
I've created the folders works as I expect.

Thanks for the hint in the right direction.

-- 
Chris Green


Re: sorting outgoing mail

2007-09-26 Thread Charles Killian
 Procmail is a delivery agent; it only handles incoming mail. 

Very true.  Ergo, if you /want/ to use procmail to sort outgoing mail,
then make it also be incoming mail.  Namely, you can BCC yourself, and
in your procmail recipes check to see if you are the sender.

One downside of doing this though is that if you also BCC others, it
won't be reflected in the copy you BCC yourself.

-Chip


-- 

Chip Killian
http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/~ckillian/
UCSD Graduate Student, Computer Science


Re: sorting outgoing mail

2007-09-26 Thread David Champion
 Procmail is a delivery agent; it only handles incoming mail. 
 Automatically sorting outgoing mail (i.e. putting mail into different 
 folders as it is sent) requires send-hooks.

While it's true that procmail can act as a delivery agent, it can also
filter any mail that you feed into it.  If you sent $sendmail to a
program that first filters the message, then injects the message to
SMTP, you can external outbound message filtering.

#!/bin/sh
##
## Use this as $sendmail in mutt
##

procmail -p -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -m $HOME/.procmailrc.outgoing


Make sure that .procmailrc.outgoing **always** acts on a message copy
using rules beginning with :0 c.  Then make sure that the last rule
in .procmailrc.outgoing, the one that catches all messages coming into
the filter, is like this:

:0
| /usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem -t


I haven't tested this approach at all, but it seems like it should work.
:)

-- 
 -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
 Polka music needs to prevail.   John Ziobrowski, Polka America Corporation


Re: sorting outgoing mail

2007-09-26 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] [01-01-70 11:34]:
 Can I use procmail for sorting outgoing mail or I need to use hooks?


Yes, you can use procmail via hooks.  Write a hook to pipe a copy of
your outgoing mail thru a *special* procmailrc containing recipies
reflecting your intent.  The process would be very similar to a
*sandbox* setup to test procmail recipies.

0: 
!formail procmail -m special.rc


Not Tested!


an email with some explanation of a sandbox for procmail and a site
reference are available:
  http://wahoo.wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/sandbox.txt


This would be easy to accomplish if the fcc can be a script (I don't
know).



or, perhaps (also not tested):

0: c
| formail procmail -m special.rc

0 
| /usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem



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http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album:  http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org


viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Joseph
I have a problem with basic setting, it should be straight forward but I am 
still missing something.
I have in a file autoview settings:

set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap

application/pdf; xpdf %s
image/jpeg;  kuickshow %s

but when I strt mutt I get an error message:

Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/autoview, line 8: application/pdf: unknown command
Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/autoview, line 9: image/jpeg: unknown command

Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/muttrc, line 11: source: errors in 
/home/joseph/.mutt/autoview

muttrc line:11 has only: source ~/.mutt/autoview

#Joseph


Re: sidebar patch

2007-09-26 Thread Brendan Cully
On Tuesday, 25 September 2007 at 21:48, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
 On Tuesday, September 25 at 04:54 PM, quoth Joseph:
 I've seen an interesting sidebar patch for mutt, though it was just that
 a patch  is not new and was never implemented.
 I am just curious as to the reason why it was never implemented.  
 
 Eh? It *was* implemented - that patch is the implementation.
 
 If you're asking why it was never added to the mainstream mutt, the 
 answer is a contentious one, but one which can be found by searching 
 the mutt mailing list archives. It was deemed froofy by one of the 
 main mutt developers 
 (http://marc.info/?l=mutt-devm=112118911225394w=2), and heavily 
 broken by one of the others 
 (http://marc.info/?l=mutt-devm=112133798519807w=2).

I'm not actually against the idea any more -- just the
implementation.


Re: viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Rado S
=- Joseph wrote on Wed 26.Sep'07 at 12:00:52 -0600 -=

 I have a problem with basic setting, it should be straight forward
 but I am still missing something. I have in a file autoview
 settings:

See http://WIKI.mutt.org/?MuttFaq about attachments.

-- 
© Rado S. -- You must provide YOUR effort for your goal!
EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude.
You're responsible for ALL you do: you get what you give.


Re: viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Joseph
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 20:12 +0200, Rado S wrote:
 =- Joseph wrote on Wed 26.Sep'07 at 12:00:52 -0600 -=
 
  I have a problem with basic setting, it should be straight forward
  but I am still missing something. I have in a file autoview
  settings:
 
 See http://WIKI.mutt.org/?MuttFaq about attachments.
 

It doesn't help!  I've followed the instructions from:
http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttFaq/Attachment

I put in mailcap:
text/html; lynx -stdin -dump -force_html ; copiousoutput

in autoview:
auto_view text/html

and I get an error:
Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/mailcap, line 1: text/html: unknown command
Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/muttrc, line 13: source: errors
in /home/joseph/.mutt/mailcap
source: errors in /home/joseph/.mutt/muttrc

-- 
#Joseph


Re: viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Wednesday, September 26 at 03:55 PM, quoth Joseph:
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 20:12 +0200, Rado S wrote:
 =- Joseph wrote on Wed 26.Sep'07 at 12:00:52 -0600 -=
 
  I have a problem with basic setting, it should be straight forward
  but I am still missing something. I have in a file autoview
  settings:
 
 See http://WIKI.mutt.org/?MuttFaq about attachments.
 

It doesn't help!  I've followed the instructions from:
http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttFaq/Attachment

I put in mailcap:
text/html; lynx -stdin -dump -force_html ; copiousoutput

in autoview:
auto_view text/html

and I get an error:
Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/mailcap, line 1: text/html: unknown command
Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/muttrc, line 13: source: errors
in /home/joseph/.mutt/mailcap
source: errors in /home/joseph/.mutt/muttrc

You're not supposed to source the mailcap file. That is NOT a mutt 
configuration file, it is a generic file with a specific format that 
many programs can use. The lines in the mailcap are NOT mutt commands, 
so mutt cannot understand them in the context of reading its own 
configuration. As long as the mailcap file is where it's supposed to 
be (either ~/.mailcap or /etc/mailcap), mutt will find it and use it.

~Kyle
- -- 
No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of 
another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.
  -- Thomas Jefferson, July 7, 1786
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Re: viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Eugene
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 01:00:52PM CDT, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have a problem with basic setting, it should be straight forward but I am 
 still missing something.
 I have in a file autoview settings:
 
 set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap
 
 application/pdf; xpdf %s
 image/jpeg;  kuickshow %s
 
 but when I strt mutt I get an error message:
 
 Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/autoview, line 8: application/pdf: unknown command
 Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/autoview, line 9: image/jpeg: unknown command
[...]

Where does xpdf and kuickshow reside?  If you specify the
full path for each command in your mailcap, does that work?

-- 
Eugene


Re: viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Joseph
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:03 -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
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[snip]
 It doesn't help!  I've followed the instructions from:
 http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttFaq/Attachment
 
 I put in mailcap:
 text/html; lynx -stdin -dump -force_html ; copiousoutput
 
 in autoview:
 auto_view text/html
 
 and I get an error:
 Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/mailcap, line 1: text/html: unknown command
 Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/muttrc, line 13: source: errors
 in /home/joseph/.mutt/mailcap
 source: errors in /home/joseph/.mutt/muttrc
 
 You're not supposed to source the mailcap file. That is NOT a mutt 
 configuration file, it is a generic file with a specific format that 
 many programs can use. The lines in the mailcap are NOT mutt commands, 
 so mutt cannot understand them in the context of reading its own 
 configuration. As long as the mailcap file is where it's supposed to 
 be (either ~/.mailcap or /etc/mailcap), mutt will find it and use it.
 
 ~Kyle

Thanks Kyle yes that worked.

Though, it got me confused a bit.  I think the command line is totally
separate environment when it comes to file association in mutt.
In KDE when I click on PDF file I have several choice I can open it
with, the default is KPDF.  Mutt runs from KDE terminal windows so why
can it find a single file association. 
I have only mailcap in:
/home/joseph/.mailcap
/etc/mailcap

Is KDE file association connected via mime.types files?

-- 
#Joseph


Re: viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Joseph
On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:14 -0500, Eugene wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 01:00:52PM CDT, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I have a problem with basic setting, it should be straight forward but I am 
  still missing something.
  I have in a file autoview settings:
  
  set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap
  
  application/pdf; xpdf %s
  image/jpeg;  kuickshow %s
  
  but when I strt mutt I get an error message:
  
  Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/autoview, line 8: application/pdf: unknown 
  command
  Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/autoview, line 9: image/jpeg: unknown command
 [...]
 
 Where does xpdf and kuickshow reside?  If you specify the
 full path for each command in your mailcap, does that work?

/usr/bin/xpdf
/usr/kde/3.5/bin/kuickshow

these file work from the command line, the same command line I'm
starting mutt, so why isn't mutt recognizing them?

-- 
#Joseph


Re: sorting outgoing mail

2007-09-26 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 25Sep2007 21:52, Kyle Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Tuesday, September 25 at 08:29 PM, quoth Joseph:
| I know procmail is used to sort an incoming mail but what about outgoing
| mail. 
| Can I use procmail for sorting outgoing mail or I need to use hooks?
| 
| Procmail is a delivery agent; it only handles incoming mail. 
| Automatically sorting outgoing mail (i.e. putting mail into different 
| folders as it is sent) requires send-hooks.

Well, yes and no.

You do have to contrive to hand a copy of the message to procmail, but if you
do that it will happily file that copy away for you.

I have mutt's sendmail setting set to a shell script that:
  - sends the message for real
  - copies the message to a few folders, usually =spool-out

I have daemon script watching spool-out that hands messages found there
to procmail using the spool-out/.procmailrc file. And lo, my messages
are filed.

Cheers,
-- 
Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] DoD#743
http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/

Perseverance is not a long race; it is many short races one after another.
- Walter Elliott


Re: viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-09-26, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-09-26 at 17:14 -0500, Eugene wrote:
  On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 01:00:52PM CDT, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   I have a problem with basic setting, it should be straight forward but I 
   am still missing something.
   I have in a file autoview settings:
   
   set mailcap_path=~/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap
   
   application/pdf; xpdf %s
   image/jpeg;  kuickshow %s
   
   but when I strt mutt I get an error message:
   
   Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/autoview, line 8: application/pdf: unknown 
   command
   Error in /home/joseph/.mutt/autoview, line 9: image/jpeg: unknown command
  [...]
  
  Where does xpdf and kuickshow reside?  If you specify the
  full path for each command in your mailcap, does that work?
 
 /usr/bin/xpdf
 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kuickshow
 
 these file work from the command line, the same command line I'm
 starting mutt, so why isn't mutt recognizing them?

As Kyle tried to explain, the problem is not that mutt could not 
find the commands; the problem was that you were trying to have mutt 
read your mailcap file as a mutt configuration file.  Once you fix 
that problem, mutt should be able to find the viewers (xpdf and 
kuickshow) just fine.

You are correct in assuming that if the viewers can be found from 
the shell's command line, and you execute mutt from that command 
line, then mutt should be able to find those viewers.

Gary


Re: viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Joseph
[snip
   
   Where does xpdf and kuickshow reside?  If you specify the
   full path for each command in your mailcap, does that work?
  
  /usr/bin/xpdf
  /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kuickshow
  
  these file work from the command line, the same command line I'm
  starting mutt, so why isn't mutt recognizing them?
 
 As Kyle tried to explain, the problem is not that mutt could not 
 find the commands; the problem was that you were trying to have mutt 
 read your mailcap file as a mutt configuration file.  Once you fix 
 that problem, mutt should be able to find the viewers (xpdf and 
 kuickshow) just fine.

Yes, I removed mailcap created in .mutt directory

 You are correct in assuming that if the viewers can be found from 
 the shell's command line, and you execute mutt from that command 
 line, then mutt should be able to find those viewers.
 
 Gary

But it doesn't find them.
In order for example to view PDF files with xpdf application I have to
add to ~/.mailcap:
application/pdf; xpdf %s

If I don't have this line in there mutt will open PDF file as a text
file.
Is there a way to automatically generate/update the mailcap file so it
will automatically recognized all the extension type type I have
associated with mine.type?
Updating it manually might not be hard to do but it is time consuming
and prone to errors.

-- 
#Joseph


Re: viewing pdf jpgeg etc attachment

2007-09-26 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2007-09-26, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [snip

Where does xpdf and kuickshow reside?  If you specify the
full path for each command in your mailcap, does that work?
   
   /usr/bin/xpdf
   /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kuickshow
   
   these file work from the command line, the same command line I'm
   starting mutt, so why isn't mutt recognizing them?
  
  As Kyle tried to explain, the problem is not that mutt could not 
  find the commands; the problem was that you were trying to have mutt 
  read your mailcap file as a mutt configuration file.  Once you fix 
  that problem, mutt should be able to find the viewers (xpdf and 
  kuickshow) just fine.
 
 Yes, I removed mailcap created in .mutt directory
 
  You are correct in assuming that if the viewers can be found from 
  the shell's command line, and you execute mutt from that command 
  line, then mutt should be able to find those viewers.

 But it doesn't find them.
 In order for example to view PDF files with xpdf application I have to
 add to ~/.mailcap:
 application/pdf; xpdf %s
 
 If I don't have this line in there mutt will open PDF file as a text
 file.
 Is there a way to automatically generate/update the mailcap file so it
 will automatically recognized all the extension type type I have
 associated with mine.type?
 Updating it manually might not be hard to do but it is time consuming
 and prone to errors.

What I meant was that since mutt sees the same PATH that its parent 
shell sees, mutt will be able to find any program in that PATH as 
well as the shell can.  For mutt to find the proper viewer for an 
attachment, other things have to be properly configured as well, 
namely, your mime.types and mailcap files.

There is no way to automatically generate a mailcap file.  That 
would require a database of associations between content types and 
viewers, which is what the mailcap file is.  You might be able to 
find an example mailcap file among the contributions and links at 
www.mutt.org.  Or you could Google for mutt mailcap (without the 
quotes).

Gary


history / save_history params?

2007-09-26 Thread William Yardley
So recent versions of mutt seem to have an option to save history; 

Can anyone tell me the difference between:
 $save_history
and:
 $history

AFAICT, both are set to the value of the number of lines of history to
save.

I first tried:
set save_history
set history=99

which didn't work. Setting
set save_history=99 seems to work. Does mutt really need both?

w