Re: 1.5.17 - threads shown with wierd characters.

2008-02-12 Thread senator galt
On Feb 11, 2008 3:42 PM, Kyle Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >How to get 1.5.17 use libncursesw.so.5?
>
> You have to install the development headers for it. According to
> Ubuntu's web page, the package that provided the libncursesw.so.5
> library is libncursesw5 (shockingly enough), and the package that
> provides the headers allowing a person to compile software that works
> with that library is in the package libncursesw5-dev.
>
> When you run mutt's configure script, it uses the best development
> headers it can find. If all you have is libncurses headers, that's all
> it'll use.

Thanks. That worked! I installed libncursesw5-dev and then configured mutt.


Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread SK
> If you need something more complicated, such as "in my friends folder,
> I want to save to folder X, but in the inbox, I want to save to folder
> Y" then you'll need to completely change the macro with a folder-hook,
> like so:
>
>  folder-hook INBOX 'macro compose S Y'
>  folder-hook friends 'macro compose S X'
>
> Make sense?

Indeed and that is what I will be using!

SK


Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Tuesday, February 12 at 08:58 PM, quoth SK:
> I can almost use this, except for a small hurdle. I need to set the 
> fcc file name based on the mailbox folder. Currently I use 
> 'folder-hook' to do that. Is there anyway I can tweak this macro to 
> get the fcc filename based on the mailbox folder?

Sure. The current folder name can be used as "^", so a useful macro 
would be:

 macro compose S "^-sent"

Thus, if you are in ~/Mail/friends, your mail will be saved in 
~/Mail/friends-sent.

If you need something more complicated, such as "in my friends folder, 
I want to save to folder X, but in the inbox, I want to save to folder 
Y" then you'll need to completely change the macro with a folder-hook, 
like so:

 folder-hook INBOX 'macro compose S Y'
 folder-hook friends 'macro compose S X'

Make sense?

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Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread SK
> The easy solution would seem to be to define the macro within the
> folder-hook you already have.

Didn't know I could do that. It works!

Thanks everyone!


Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 12 Feb 2008 20:58 +0100, by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SK):
>> macro compose 
>> value-for-field
> 
> I can almost use this, except for a small hurdle. I need to set the
> fcc file name based on the mailbox folder. Currently I use
> 'folder-hook' to do that. Is there anyway I can tweak this macro to
> get the fcc filename based on the mailbox folder?

The easy solution would seem to be to define the macro within the
folder-hook you already have.

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Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread SK
> > > Do you want to press a key to make mutt save messages to a
> > > specific folder, but to not do so if you do not press this key?
> >
> > Yes, exactly, without even having to answer the "Yes/No" question
> > (if I set ask-yes, or ask-no option) every time.
>
> copy: no
> define a
> macro compose 
> value-for-field

I can almost use this, except for a small hurdle. I need to set the
fcc file name based on the mailbox folder. Currently I use
'folder-hook' to do that. Is there anyway I can tweak this macro to
get the fcc filename based on the mailbox folder?

SK


Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Tuesday, February 12 at 08:19 PM, quoth SK:
>> Do you want to press a key to make mutt save messages to a specific
>> folder, but to not do so if you do not press this key?
>
>Yes, exactly, without even having to answer the "Yes/No" question (if
>I set ask-yes, or ask-no option) every time.

Ah, that's easy then:

 set copy=yes
 set record=
 macro compose S '=Saved'

Thus, by default, mutt will not save a copy, because $record is empty, 
but when you press S (aka shift-s), it will set the FCC to be 
"=Saved", and when the message is sent, a copy WILL be saved to the 
"=Saved" folder.

If you want mutt to remember your decision between messages, then 
you'd have to do it a bit differently:

 set copy=yes
 set record=
 # first, we have the set-saved action:
 macro compose ,S '=Saved\
 set record="=Saved"\
 macro compose S ,s'
 # now we have the set-not-saved action:
 macro compose ,s '\
 set record=\
 macro compose S ,S'
 # note that those two toggle the following macro back and forth
 # between them:
 macro compose S ,S

Does that help?

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Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread David Champion
> > Do you want to press a key to make mutt save messages to a specific
> > folder, but to not do so if you do not press this key?
> 
> Yes, exactly, without even having to answer the "Yes/No" question (if
> I set ask-yes, or ask-no option) every time.

This might do it.

## Set copy to no when initiating new messages
send-hook . 'set copy=no'

## Set copy to yes when you press control-K at the compose menu
macro compose \CK 'set copy=yes'

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Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread Rado S
=- SK wrote on Tue 12.Feb'08 at 20:19:22 +0100 -=

> > Do you want to press a key to make mutt save messages to a
> > specific folder, but to not do so if you do not press this key?
> 
> Yes, exactly, without even having to answer the "Yes/No" question
> (if I set ask-yes, or ask-no option) every time.

copy: no
define a
macro compose 
value-for-field

For details about <> content see '?' help of "compose menu".

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Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread SK
> Do you want to press a key to make mutt save messages to a specific
> folder, but to not do so if you do not press this key?

Yes, exactly, without even having to answer the "Yes/No" question (if
I set ask-yes, or ask-no option) every time.

SK


Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Tuesday, February 12 at 08:06 PM, quoth SK:
> Thanks for the informative reply Kyle. I think I will use the fcc-hook 
> way but before that, just to reconfirm - there is no simple option 
> (say a key binding) that is equivalent to checking the "Save in Sent 
> Mail" checkbook of a web based email client?

I guess I'm confused about what you're asking for. What do you want 
mutt to do, and in what situations?

Do you want to press a key to make mutt save messages to a specific 
folder, but to not do so if you do not press this key?

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Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread SK
Thanks for the informative reply Kyle. I think I will use the fcc-hook
way but before that, just to reconfirm - there is no simple option
(say a key binding) that is equivalent to checking the "Save in Sent
Mail" checkbook of a web based email client?

Thanks,
SK

On Feb 12, 2008 7:44 PM, Kyle Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Tuesday, February 12 at 07:10 PM, quoth SK:
>
> > As far as I read the amanual, "set copy" allows one to specify
> > whether to keep a copy of all sent emails. Is there any way in which
> > I can disable this behavior by default (i.e. unset copy) but in the
> > compose window speficy that I want to keep a copy on a per-email
> > basis? Of course I can CC or BCC myself but that is too much "work"
> > :)
>
> Well, copy is a quad-option, meaning that you can tell mutt to ask you
> every time. The valid options are: yes, no, ask-yes, and ask-no (the
> two variants of ask specify what the default will be when it asks).
>
> But if you read the manual (or rather, the muttrc man page), the
> description of the $copy option directs you to also check out
> fcc-hook, which will allow you to specify where (or if) to save the
> message based on pattern matching (e.g. who the email is addressed to,
> what the subject line is, that sort of thing).
>
> For example, you could create a pair of hooks to make sure that
> messages aren't saved if they're destined for yourself already:
>
>  fcc-hook .  '=Sent' # default
>  fcc-hook ~p '/dev/null' # don't save things addressed to me
>
> Adding another would make sure that copies aren't saved for messages
> to the mutt mailing list:
>
>  fcc-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' /dev/null
>
> Or, if you've told mutt all about your subscribed mailing lists, you
> could do this:
>
>  fcc-hook ~u /dev/null
>
> Now, I'm pulling a bit of a fast one on you, because saving a message
> to /dev/null isn't *exactly* the same as not saving it. All that does
> is ensure that it doesn't get stored anywhere, but mutt still goes to
> the effort of writing it to /dev/null. Unfortunately, you can't use
> fcc-hook to specify "nothing". For example, this won't work:
>
>  fcc-hook ~u ""
>
> I'm not sure why. But I can tell you that there's a way around it, if
> the /dev/null trick doesn't sit well with you. Here's what I do:
>
>  set copy=yes
>  send-hook .  'set record="=Sent"'
>  send-hook ~u 'set record='
>  send-hook ~p 'set record='
>
> That way, mutt doesn't even spend its time writing the message to
> /dev/null. But going that far is being anal, and could only possibly
> be an inconvenience for extremely large emails. That's just the kind
> of guy I am, though. :)
>
> ~Kyle
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Re: Problem with threating

2008-02-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Patrick,

Am 2008-02-10 12:01:14, schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
> * Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-10-08 11:41]:
> > Question: With "l" I can redraw the screen, but how do I this from
> >   the macro?
> 
> TFM:   default
>pager

Ahh thanks... I was missing this.

Note:  I do not like the new syle of the "manual.txt" the old one
   was better to read (specialy I hate those pseudo tables
   since I can not more cut sections from a script with sed)

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack


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Re: copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Tuesday, February 12 at 07:10 PM, quoth SK:
> As far as I read the amanual, "set copy" allows one to specify 
> whether to keep a copy of all sent emails. Is there any way in which 
> I can disable this behavior by default (i.e. unset copy) but in the 
> compose window speficy that I want to keep a copy on a per-email 
> basis? Of course I can CC or BCC myself but that is too much "work" 
> :)

Well, copy is a quad-option, meaning that you can tell mutt to ask you 
every time. The valid options are: yes, no, ask-yes, and ask-no (the 
two variants of ask specify what the default will be when it asks).

But if you read the manual (or rather, the muttrc man page), the 
description of the $copy option directs you to also check out 
fcc-hook, which will allow you to specify where (or if) to save the 
message based on pattern matching (e.g. who the email is addressed to, 
what the subject line is, that sort of thing).

For example, you could create a pair of hooks to make sure that 
messages aren't saved if they're destined for yourself already:

 fcc-hook .  '=Sent' # default
 fcc-hook ~p '/dev/null' # don't save things addressed to me

Adding another would make sure that copies aren't saved for messages 
to the mutt mailing list:

 fcc-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' /dev/null

Or, if you've told mutt all about your subscribed mailing lists, you 
could do this:

 fcc-hook ~u /dev/null

Now, I'm pulling a bit of a fast one on you, because saving a message 
to /dev/null isn't *exactly* the same as not saving it. All that does 
is ensure that it doesn't get stored anywhere, but mutt still goes to 
the effort of writing it to /dev/null. Unfortunately, you can't use 
fcc-hook to specify "nothing". For example, this won't work:

 fcc-hook ~u ""

I'm not sure why. But I can tell you that there's a way around it, if 
the /dev/null trick doesn't sit well with you. Here's what I do:

 set copy=yes
 send-hook .  'set record="=Sent"'
 send-hook ~u 'set record='
 send-hook ~p 'set record='

That way, mutt doesn't even spend its time writing the message to 
/dev/null. But going that far is being anal, and could only possibly 
be an inconvenience for extremely large emails. That's just the kind 
of guy I am, though. :)

~Kyle
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who argues with him.
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copy on a per email basis

2008-02-12 Thread SK
Hi all,

As far as I read the amanual, "set copy" allows one to specify whether
to keep a copy of all sent emails. Is there any way in which I can
disable this behavior by default (i.e. unset copy) but in the compose
window speficy that I want to keep a copy on a per-email basis? Of
course I can CC or BCC myself but that is too much "work" :)

Thanks,
SK


Re: Online Address book

2008-02-12 Thread Joseph
On 02/12/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your reply. ldap is running on my vServer. But I am not sure how 
> to setup lbdb to use ldap and mutt to use lbdb.
> Any advise where to look?
> 
> Thanks!
> Nathan
> 
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:04:00PM -0500, Raffi Khatchadourian wrote:
> > On Tue 12.Feb'08 at  1:43:25 +0100, Nathan Huesken wrote:
> >> I am using mutt from different computers (like my laptop and the desktop 
> >> PC at home) and I am wondering if there is some way to always keep my 
> >> address book synchronized between the two computers.
> >> The coolest solution would be, if I could install some sort of database on 
> >> my vServer and make mutt query it everytime I need the address book (and 
> >> also add new addresses to it).
> >>
> >> Is there some sort if solution for this kind of think?
> >
> > Using LDAP and lbdb kinda solves this problem.


Another solution is to setup svn on a server somewhere and then use that
to keep your addresses, muttrc files, and other home data you want to be
shared everywhere. I also keep my icewm files, alias setups and so on
there.

Make an alias that does svn ci of your files before starting mutt.


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Re: Online Address book

2008-02-12 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Tuesday, February 12 at 03:03 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>Hi,
>
>Thanks for your reply. ldap is running on my vServer. But I am not sure how to 
>setup lbdb to use ldap and mutt to use lbdb.
>Any advise where to look?

http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb/
and
http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb/mutt_ldap_query.html

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the philosophy is kindness.
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Re: Online Address book

2008-02-12 Thread mutt
Hi,

Thanks for your reply. ldap is running on my vServer. But I am not sure how to 
setup lbdb to use ldap and mutt to use lbdb.
Any advise where to look?

Thanks!
Nathan

On Mon, Feb 11, 2008 at 09:04:00PM -0500, Raffi Khatchadourian wrote:
> On Tue 12.Feb'08 at  1:43:25 +0100, Nathan Huesken wrote:
>> I am using mutt from different computers (like my laptop and the desktop 
>> PC at home) and I am wondering if there is some way to always keep my 
>> address book synchronized between the two computers.
>> The coolest solution would be, if I could install some sort of database on 
>> my vServer and make mutt query it everytime I need the address book (and 
>> also add new addresses to it).
>>
>> Is there some sort if solution for this kind of think?
>
> Using LDAP and lbdb kinda solves this problem.