Re: Change folders
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, June 2 at 03:42 PM, quoth Ravi Uday: > When I select a different folders using 'c' and '?' it starts to > load the folder and msgs from start. Is there a way to bypass/cache > this and make mutt load the folder faster ? That depends. If you're using MH, maildir or imap and you have mutt 1.5.7 or newer, then yes, you can use the $header_cache (see the documentation for details). If you're using mbox or mutt 1.4.x, then you're outta luck. Mbox won't get much faster with a cache (the best you can do is make your disk faster and get a faster cpu), and 1.4.x doesn't have that feature yet (it'll be in the forthcoming 1.6 version). ~Kyle - -- I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. -- Thomas Edison -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkhEeQUACgkQBkIOoMqOI17I0ACgjTt2d4wUK7LFJXXhGG1ZplQ/ bn8An2Xo0Wkh1pZBVaCvsDao3HdTbVGr =v1VG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Change folders
Hi mutt folks, When I select a different folders using 'c' and '?' it starts to load the folder and msgs from start. Is there a way to bypass/cache this and make mutt load the folder faster ? Thanks, Ravi
Re: folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work
* Kyle Wheeler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080602 22:19]: ... > I would have done something like this: > > alias -group lisagroup lisa Lisa Lady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > set use_from=no > send-hook '%C lisagroup' 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' > fcc-save-hook '%C lisagroup' +fanciulla/lisa Hello Kyle, I think it is a good advice to write an own .muttrc from scratch. I will do that around your code suggestion above. Thank you again! Rudolf
Re: folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, June 2 at 09:39 PM, quoth Rudolf Bahr: >> On Monday, June 2 at 12:29 PM, quoth Rudolf Bahr: >>> folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set use_from=no' >>> folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'unmy_hdr *' >>> folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' >> Those three should work fine. > Sorry, they don't, in this case, at least. The From: address is > still a combination of my username and PC's hostname. Hmmm In that case, I'm not sure. Let's try something different to see if this works (all one line, of course): send-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' >> folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set record="=fanciulla/lisa"' > > > Ok, I removed the folder-hooks which can't be preset by me and are > indeed unnecessary. Instead I added as you suggested: > > folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set record="=fanciulla/lisa"' > > But Mutt gives me still back: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of > '=fanciulla/lisa'. Very interesting. That's not a typical mutt-default Fcc, so I suspect you have other hooks in your configuration that are re-setting it... particularly fcc-hooks or fcc-save-hooks. >> *answer* email (r), as opposed to compose new email (m)? If you're >> *replying* to email (r), then the recipient (To:) is set based on >> the message you're replying to. >> >> What exactly are you trying to achieve? > > I'm entering the folder 'fanciulla/lisa' in order to answer a message > there by 'r' or ',a'. Well, I guess my point is... I generally prefer using send-hooks (or reply-hooks) instead of folder-hooks for changing these sorts of settings, because they allow me to have the message anywhere, and get triggered for every message (thus, they over-rule folder-hooks). Often, the only reason people choose to use folder-hooks is because they haven't yet discovered send-hooks. On the other hand, some people strongly associate a given folder with a given role, and associating folder with sending address (for example) makes more sense in their head. I would have done something like this: alias -group lisagroup lisa Lisa Lady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> set use_from=no send-hook '%C lisagroup' 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' fcc-save-hook '%C lisagroup' +fanciulla/lisa # Reply-To isn't usually useful Note that the send-hook and fcc-save-hook trigger whenever I send a message to lisa regardless of what folder I'm in. The $use_from setting stays the same always, unless I add hooks to change it (in which case it'll have to go into a hook as well). The use of a group means I can later add addresses for lisa (e.g. 'group -group lisagroup - -addr [EMAIL PROTECTED]') and not have to change my hooks. Without the "group" bit, that would be rewritten as: alias lisa Lisa Lady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> set use_from=no send-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' fcc-save-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +fanciulla/lisa # Reply-To isn't usually useful >> Keep in mind, these hooks are only triggered when you enter the >> folder. If you have other hooks that override them (such as >> send-hooks or reply-hooks or message-hooks), they will not be >> re-triggered until you re-enter the folder. > > Yes, therefore I commented all other lines which have something to > do with 'lisa' or '=fanciulla/lisa'. It seems to help nothing. Depending on your configuration, you may have plenty of "default" hooks that don't contain the text "lisa", but apply anyway. For example the patterns "~A" and "." in send/reply/message/display-hooks will match your emails... there may be lots more hooks being triggered than you're aware of. I'd start by following the debug steps outlined here: http://wiki.mutt.org/?DebugConfig This is why I usually recommend that, once you start getting serious about configuring your own mutt, you start your own muttrc from scratch. It'll take some time to read the descriptions of all the relevant settings, but it's *well* worth your time. > Kyle, many thanks for your answer with the explanations! Happy to help! ~Kyle - -- If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? -- Albert Einstein, 1941 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkhEU64ACgkQBkIOoMqOI172lQCcDYXz+ht0y1WnmxgK4UYQQ2zb KJUAoPlsoVLonvGYQ0Ifi5pXd4tBZTYR =Z/PN -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work
* Kyle Wheeler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080602 16:19]: Hello Kyle, > On Monday, June 2 at 12:29 PM, quoth Rudolf Bahr: > >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set use_from=no' > >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'unmy_hdr *' > >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Those three should work fine. > Sorry, they don't, in this case, at least. The From: address is still a combination of my username and PC's hostname. > >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr Fcc: =fanciulla/lisa' > Those two won't do anything (well... they will, but not what you > expect). First of all, every time you compose a message, mutt asks you > who the recipient is. Setting a To: header ahead of time doesn't > change that, so whatever To: header you had set before will get > overwritten. Secondly, the Fcc: setting isn't a *header*, it's a > *setting* (that mutt displays in the compose screen as if it was a > header). Here's how you'd do it the "right" way: > > folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set record="=fanciulla/lisa"' Ok, I removed the folder-hooks which can't be preset by me and are indeed unnecessary. Instead I added as you suggested: folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set record="=fanciulla/lisa"' But Mutt gives me still back: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of '=fanciulla/lisa'. > > *answer* email (r), as opposed to compose new email (m)? If you're > *replying* to email (r), then the recipient (To:) is set based on the > message you're replying to. > > What exactly are you trying to achieve? I'm entering the folder 'fanciulla/lisa' in order to answer a message there by 'r' or ',a'. > > Keep in mind, these hooks are only triggered when you enter the > folder. If you have other hooks that override them (such as send-hooks > or reply-hooks or message-hooks), they will not be re-triggered until > you re-enter the folder. > Yes, therefore I commented all other lines which have something to do with 'lisa' or '=fanciulla/lisa'. It seems to help nothing. Any additional ideas? Kyle, many thanks for your answer with the explanations! Rudolf
Re: Hi all, is there anyone knows how to send bigger attachments
> Thanks. But I am using a Linux system, and the file is just about 6M. > > I am just curious that where can I find the so-called "system restriction" ? It could be on your system, or it could be on the one that your system relays to when it sends the message on to the recipient. Where you find the configuration depends on what MTA you're using. If you're using sendmail, it's probably in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf and/or /etc/mail/sendmail.mc. If you're using postfix, it's probably in one of the files in /etc/postfix -- perhaps main.cf. Check your MTA's docuementation for whatever distribution of Linux you're using. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work
Hi, * Kyle Wheeler wrote: Secondly, the Fcc: setting isn't a *header*, it's a *setting* (that mutt displays in the compose screen as if it was a header). Here's how you'd do it the "right" way: folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set record="=fanciulla/lisa"' Yes, this form is better. But for the record, you can add the "special" Fcc: and Attach: headers in the editor for mutt to pick up. It'll then attach all files mentioned and set the fcc accordingly (if headers are given). Users in general should be aware of this because it can be a quite dangerous "feature" and easily abused: mutt 'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/.gnupg/secring.gpg' could send out files you really want to keep private if you don't pay enough attention to the compose menu. Now that I see it, maybe mutt shouldn't allow for Fcc: and Attach: user defined headers at all. Rocco
Re: folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, June 2 at 12:29 PM, quoth Rudolf Bahr: >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set use_from=no' >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'unmy_hdr *' >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Those three should work fine. >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr Fcc: >=fanciulla/lisa' Those two won't do anything (well... they will, but not what you expect). First of all, every time you compose a message, mutt asks you who the recipient is. Setting a To: header ahead of time doesn't change that, so whatever To: header you had set before will get overwritten. Secondly, the Fcc: setting isn't a *header*, it's a *setting* (that mutt displays in the compose screen as if it was a header). Here's how you'd do it the "right" way: folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set record="=fanciulla/lisa"' >folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr Reply-To: >[EMAIL PROTECTED]' That's another one that mutt often generates at compose-time (just like the "To:" header) and overwrites any previous settings. For example, mutt obeys the environment variable REPLYTO. > Hopelessly, it doesn't work. if I answer to an e-mail in this > folder, I still allways have to correct some of the header fields. *answer* email (r), as opposed to compose new email (m)? If you're *replying* to email (r), then the recipient (To:) is set based on the message you're replying to. What exactly are you trying to achieve? Keep in mind, these hooks are only triggered when you enter the folder. If you have other hooks that override them (such as send-hooks or reply-hooks or message-hooks), they will not be re-triggered until you re-enter the folder. ~Kyle - -- Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. -- Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ (Luke 12:51-53) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkhD/lUACgkQBkIOoMqOI15TMQCgg8KKrpfe1srdiQyPGeBMPk4V f8QAoNG85Z3RNne7p6Mka1aKXQMVlYnj =T3JL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work
=- Rudolf Bahr wrote on Mon 2.Jun'08 at 12:29:05 +0200 -= > Up to now I used a .muttrc-file which I found on the internet and > it worked rather fine. Catchup with rtfm then. :) Once you know what you do, you can analyze what's wrong. For example you set fcc-hook rather than Fcc: header your way. For general debugging advice see also the welcome message with links to the wiki. -- © Rado S. -- You must provide YOUR effort for your goal! EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude. You're responsible for ALL you do: you get what you give.
Re: Hi all, is there anyone knows how to send bigger attachments
Thanks. But I am using a Linux system, and the file is just about 6M. I am just curious that where can I find the so-called "system restriction" ? Would u please give me some further tips ? Thanks very much in advance! On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Marcus Franke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:27:35PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> Can not be... >> > > Size of mails is a system restriction enforced by your mail server. > Your mail client just sends data to the mail server and somewhere in > the line it may be restricted. > > Your server may be configured for 50MB files, Microsoft Exchange > servers accept per default just 10MB. And thats about the raw message > size, so if you have some 9MB file that gets uuencoded up to 11M, you > crossed the line and the mail will be rejected. > > > > Marcus > -- Blog in Chinese http://www.awflasher.com/blog/ Blog in English http://www.ifgogo.com/
Re: Hi all, is there anyone knows how to send bigger attachments
On Sun, Jun 01, 2008 at 09:27:35PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Can not be... > Size of mails is a system restriction enforced by your mail server. Your mail client just sends data to the mail server and somewhere in the line it may be restricted. Your server may be configured for 50MB files, Microsoft Exchange servers accept per default just 10MB. And thats about the raw message size, so if you have some 9MB file that gets uuencoded up to 11M, you crossed the line and the mail will be rejected. Marcus
Re: Hi all, is there anyone knows how to send bigger attachments (a 6M sized file) with mutt?
Can not be... Am 2008-06-01 16:58:36, schrieb Awflasher(GuoQirui): > Mutt is really great but I cannot get anything when sending a 6M file. > > It's ok for sending small files but when i'm trying to send a big > file, it stopped working. > > Hope to get some tips, thanks very much!! > END OF REPLIED MESSAGE Today morning I have send an attachment of 26 MByte (Debian Package) per mutt over then net... It take some time because Up-Stream is only 128 kBit (50 MBit Down-Stream) per Satelite but it works. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
folder-hook in my .muttrc doesn't work
Hello everybody, it's the first time I'm posting a question here though I used to be a mutt user for a longer time. As OS I'm using debian, 2.6.24-1-686; my Mutt works in mbox_type=Maildir mode and in conjunction with fetchmail, procmail and postfix. Up to now I used a .muttrc-file which I found on the internet and it worked rather fine. Now I'd like to intend to have some changes and try the configuration command "folder-hook" as follows: folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'set use_from=no' folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'unmy_hdr *' folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr Fcc: =fanciulla/lisa' folder-hook +fanciulla/lisa 'my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]' Hopelessly, it doesn't work. if I answer to an e-mail in this folder, I still allways have to correct some of the header fields. Though I set and unset a lot of other parameters of which I thought they could have an impact to folder-hook, mutt doesn't honor any of the desired parameters. The only command with a certain influence to the folder-hook command with respect to the from: header field I found in the manual is the "use_from" command: "When set, Mutt will generate the `From:' header field when sending messages. If unset, no `From:' header field will be generated unless the user explicitly sets one using the ``my_hdr'' command." Where could be my mistake? Which command prevents mutt from taking over the desired parameters? Rudolf PS.: Here my Mutt's capabilities: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mutt -v Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Copyright (C) 1996-2008 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 (i686) ncurses: ncurses 5.6.20080503 (compiled with 5.6) libidn: 1.8 (compiled with 1.8) hcache backend: GDBM version 1.8.3. 10/15/2002 (built Apr 24 2006 03:25:20) Einstellungen bei der Compilierung: -DOMAIN +DEBUG -HOMESPOOL +USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +DL_STANDALONE +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_POP +USE_IMAP +USE_SMTP -USE_GSS -USE_SSL_OPENSSL +USE_SSL_GNUTLS +USE_SASL +HAVE_GETADDRINFO +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_START_COLOR +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD +HAVE_BKGDSET +HAVE_CURS_SET +HAVE_META +HAVE_RESIZETERM +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME -CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME -EXACT_ADDRESS -SUN_ATTACHMENT +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +COMPRESSED +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR +HAVE_ICONV -ICONV_NONTRANS +HAVE_LIBIDN +HAVE_GETSID +USE_HCACHE -ISPELL SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/mail" PKGDATADIR="/usr/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/etc" EXECSHELL="/bin/sh" MIXMASTER="mixmaster" Um die Entwickler zu kontaktieren, schicken Sie bitte eine Nachricht (in englisch) an <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Um einen Bug zu melden, besuchen Sie bitte http://bugs.mutt.org/. patch-1.5.13.cd.ifdef.2 patch-1.5.13.cd.purge_message.3.4 patch-1.5.13.nt+ab.xtitles.4 patch-1.5.4.vk.pgp_verbose_mime patch-1.5.6.dw.maildir-mtime.1 patch-1.5.8.hr.sensible_browser_position.3 ---
Re: read a file named ^
Hi, * Patrick Shanahan wrote: I use mbox, so I am guessing that MailDir is using some indexing ??? that is not providing the correct parameters to mutt. Maildir doesn't have any indexing or meta data files, it's just one file per message. It encodes important flags into the path and filename so that tools can get some flags from just the path.
