Re: How to be compatible with Outlook's conversation mode?
I do not know, since, you know, it is hard to see the headers in outlook On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday, March 3 at 01:04 PM, quoth Magicloud Magiclouds: >> I think this option only effects how the mails displayed, right? >> My problem is that my mails (composed by mutt) could not be organized >> as conversation in the receivers' outlook. > > Ahh, I see, sorry, I misunderstood your question. > > I guess the question comes down to: what about an email does Outlook > use to construct its "conversation" view? Usually mail clients rely on > the References or In-Reply-To headers (or both), both of which mutt > should set correctly. > > Is your message perhaps getting mangled by the time your coworkers > receive it? Is it missing the References and/or In-Reply-To headers? > > ~Kyle > - -- > Seeing a murder on television [...] can help work off one's > antagonisms. And if you haven't any antagonisms, the commercials will > give you some. > -- Alfred Hitchcock > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Comment: Thank you for using encryption! > > iEYEARECAAYFAkmsyjgACgkQBkIOoMqOI15A4gCdGiD5L+yyhchlnDccqra/wo40 > 7DcAn1oqn3RnuO7bJur47I8CZhjWY/tq > =552f > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- 竹密岂妨流水过 山高哪阻野云飞
Re: How to be compatible with Outlook's conversation mode?
Magicloud Magiclouds said: > > I do not know, since, you know, it is hard to see the headers in outlook > ...but not that tough! In Outlook 2000/2003 open the message, click View/Options and you'll see the headers in the text box at the bottom. If you are using Outlook 2007 it's slightly different - right-click the message in its folder and choose Message Options for the same result. C _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx
Re: How to be compatible with Outlook's conversation mode?
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 12:12:08AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Tuesday, March 3 at 01:04 PM, quoth Magicloud Magiclouds: > > I think this option only effects how the mails displayed, right? > > My problem is that my mails (composed by mutt) could not be organized > > as conversation in the receivers' outlook. > > Ahh, I see, sorry, I misunderstood your question. > > I guess the question comes down to: what about an email does Outlook > use to construct its "conversation" view? Usually mail clients rely on > the References or In-Reply-To headers (or both), both of which mutt > should set correctly. > I *believe* Outlook 'threads' messages by looking at the Subject:, thus mutt would need to do the 'Re:' bit in a way that Outlook understands. > Is your message perhaps getting mangled by the time your coworkers > receive it? Is it missing the References and/or In-Reply-To headers? > -- Chris Green
Re: How to be compatible with Outlook's conversation mode?
* Chris Green wrote on 03.03.2009 at 10:00: > ...but not that tough! In Outlook 2000/2003 open the message, click > View/Options and you'll see the headers in the text box at the bottom. If you > are using Outlook 2007 it's slightly different - right-click the message in > its folder and choose Message Options for the same result. but its really more difficult than pressing 'e' or 'h' in pager/viewer. :-) andreas
Re: How to be compatible with Outlook's conversation mode?
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:51:32AM +, Chris G wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 12:12:08AM -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 3 at 01:04 PM, quoth Magicloud Magiclouds: > > > I think this option only effects how the mails displayed, right? > > > My problem is that my mails (composed by mutt) could not be organized > > > as conversation in the receivers' outlook. > > > > Ahh, I see, sorry, I misunderstood your question. > > > > I guess the question comes down to: what about an email does Outlook > > use to construct its "conversation" view? Usually mail clients rely on > > the References or In-Reply-To headers (or both), both of which mutt > > should set correctly. > > I *believe* Outlook 'threads' messages by looking at the Subject:, > thus mutt would need to do the 'Re:' bit in a way that Outlook > understands. I don't think that's correct. I've yet to find anything authoritative (and non-ambiguous) on the subject, but my understanding is that either or both of the Thread-Topic and Thread-Index fields are used, Thread-Index being generated from References. Then again, I doubt all versions of Outlook generate identical headers, or behave consistently with respect to threading. Anyone have more information? -- George
Re: How to be compatible with Outlook's conversation mode?
On Tue, 03 Mar 2009, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: > I think this option only effects how the mails displayed, right? > My problem is that my mails (composed by mutt) could not be organized > as conversation in the receivers' outlook. But is there any positive evidents that your out-going email is ok? Eg did them show in thread to other email clients such as mutt itself? -- regards, GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 唐詩264 王昌齡 芙蓉樓送辛漸 寒雨連江夜入吳 平明送客楚山孤 洛陽親友如相問 一片冰心在玉壺
Re: ask for pwd
> Ahhh. Well then, I think you can simply create a macro to unset your > $smtp_pass variable every time you send a message, e.g.: > > macro compose y 'unset smtp_pass' > Can this be changed to ask for pwd if mailbox is idle for sometime, typing password for each send operation is time consuming, once in a while is fine. - Ravi
Re: How to be compatible with Outlook's conversation mode?
Andreas Kalex said: > * Chris Green wrote on 03.03.2009 at 10:00: >> ...but not that tough! In Outlook 2000/2003 open the message, click >> View/Options and you'll see the headers in the text box at the bottom. If >> you are using Outlook 2007 it's slightly different - right-click the message >> in its folder and choose Message Options for the same result. > but its really more difficult than pressing 'e' or 'h' in pager/viewer. :-) Indeed! At least it's not Hotmail, with which I've never found a way to reveal the headers in any way, shape or form :-) C _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
smtp session fails when using preauthed connections
Hi. I have problem sending email with mutt built-in smtp function. I am using mutt 1.5.19 on freebsd machine and I store emails in ~/Maildir directory. I set muttrc file like below. set tunnel="/usr/local/bin/imapd ~/Maildir" set folder="imap://localhost/" set spoolfile="imap://localhost/INBOX" set record="+INBOX/Sent" set postponed="+INBOX/Drafts" set smtp_url="smtps://smtp.club.kyutech.ac.jp:465/" set send_charset="iso-2022-jp" I want to access mailbox via preauth imap and want to send email via remote smtp server with mutt embeded smtp client. But when sending email, mutt puts error message "SMTP session failed: * PREAUTH Ready.". Any ideas to avoid this problem? -- Iwao, Koichiro
Re: Where did these headers come from?
* Rem P Roberti 01.03.2009 > On 2009.03.01 11:08:55 +, Rem P Roberti wrote: > > On 2009.03.01 13:25:40 +, Ed Blackman wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 09:41:50AM -0800, Rem P Roberti wrote: > > > >I installed muttprint a while back, and I'm quite satisfied with its > > > >performance. However, I discovered that once I print an email Mutt then > > > >starts to include every (and I do mean every) header when an email is > > > >viewed. A page of headers. It's as though the 'ignore' statement in > > > >.muttrc is no longer active. The only way I can fix the problem is by > > > >closing and reopening Mutt. Anyone know what's going on here? > > > > > > Maybe your macro for muttprint unsets 'weed'? If you type ':set ?weed' > > > before printing in a new Mutt session, what does Mutt respond with? > > > After printing? > > > > > > If mutt responds with "weed is set" before and "weed is unset" after, > > > that's the problem, and I can think of two solutions. > > > > > What you describe is precisely what happens: muttprint unsets 'weed'. > > Since I don't have a dedicated macro for muttprint (I just hit 'p' to > > print), and since hitting 'h' is such an easy solution to toggle back > > weed, I think that I will just stay with that for the time being. I'm > > pretty new to mutt and muttprint, and haven't explored dedicated macros > > (except for my abook macro). I will say that that seems like a much > > more elegant solution :) > > Whoa. It turns out that there is a macro in my .muttrc. Here it is: > > macro index p " > " Hello Rem, you can set the headers which you want to print in your $HOME/.muttprintrc I have this in my muttprintrc and mutt prints only these headers. + # Choose of the printed headers, separation with "_"| # /Header/ : italic printing| # *Header* : bold printing | # If the header does not exist, it is not printed. | PRINTED_HEADERS="/Date/_To_From_CC_Newsgroups_*Subject*"| + Hth Michael -- "Kindness is a language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see." --Mark Twain signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to be compatible with Outlook's conversation mode?
At least, the ones use mutt do not complain And the mails outlook sent me threaded fine with mutt On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM, bill lam wrote: > On Tue, 03 Mar 2009, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: >> I think this option only effects how the mails displayed, right? >> My problem is that my mails (composed by mutt) could not be organized >> as conversation in the receivers' outlook. > > But is there any positive evidents that your out-going email is ok? Eg > did them show in thread to other email clients such as mutt itself? > > -- > regards, > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > 唐詩264 王昌齡 芙蓉樓送辛漸 > 寒雨連江夜入吳 平明送客楚山孤 洛陽親友如相問 一片冰心在玉壺 > -- 竹密岂妨流水过 山高哪阻野云飞
Re: ask for pwd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, March 3 at 09:30 AM, quoth Ravi Uday: >> Ahhh. Well then, I think you can simply create a macro to unset your >> $smtp_pass variable every time you send a message, e.g.: >> >> macro compose y 'unset smtp_pass' >> > > Can this be changed to ask for pwd if mailbox is idle for sometime, > typing password for each send operation is time consuming, once in a > while is fine. It'd be tricky; mutt doesn't have a "timer hook", so you'd have to try to fake it using shell escapes. ~Kyle - -- Men at some time are masters of their fates: The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves, that we are underlings. -- Shakespeare, in Julius Caesar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkmuJGwACgkQBkIOoMqOI17q2ACg7syuKwTLe8rl/bE5TL5nYTi3 7/MAoKt4Q0NQhDp3UyhoFknhWlNOZpK4 =+s/E -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: smtp session fails when using preauthed connections
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, March 4 at 05:57 AM, quoth Kouichiro Iwao: >I have problem sending email with mutt built-in smtp function. >I am using mutt 1.5.19 on freebsd machine and I store emails >in ~/Maildir directory. I set muttrc file like below. > >set tunnel="/usr/local/bin/imapd ~/Maildir" >set folder="imap://localhost/" >set spoolfile="imap://localhost/INBOX" >set record="+INBOX/Sent" >set postponed="+INBOX/Drafts" >set smtp_url="smtps://smtp.club.kyutech.ac.jp:465/" >set send_charset="iso-2022-jp" > >I want to access mailbox via preauth imap and want to send email via >remote smtp server with mutt embeded smtp client. But when sending >email, mutt puts error message "SMTP session failed: * PREAUTH Ready.". > >Any ideas to avoid this problem? What's going on is that mutt is using $tunnel for SMTP as well as for IMAP. This is precisely the sort of thing that the account-hook was created for. Try this: account-hook imap://localhost/ 'set tunnel="/usr/local/bin/imapd ~Maildir"' account-hook smtps://smtp.club.kyutech.ac.jp:465/ 'unset tunnel' ~Kyle - -- You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place. -- Jonathan Swift -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iEYEARECAAYFAkmuJYMACgkQBkIOoMqOI17OWACg4oYk8GVKE9aNQiN09Q4nzQa7 T20AoPQ0C4iT3twHrrCqPLvbAKm7PkLc =o/PI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: open a browser
Le dimanche 01 mars de l'année 2009, vers 18 heures et 38 minutes, Andreas Kalex écrivait: > * Rado S wrote on 27.02.2009 at 16:15: > > Use a dispatcher script in mailcap which prompts you for your choice. Could you share your script please? Thank you. -- ---()()()()()()()()()--)()()()()()()()()(--- -()()--()-()-()()--)()(-)(-)(--)()(- ()()()()()()()())()()()()()()()(
