Re: Send mail in background with built-in SMTP client?

2016-04-14 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, April 14, 2016 a las 07:59:56PM -0700, Claus Assmann escribió:

> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016, Xu Wang wrote:
> 
> > I use mutt's built-in SMTP client. I would like to press 'y' and
> > immediately be able to move on to my next email without waiting. I
> 
> Did you check the fine manual?
> 
> 3.234. sendmail_wait
> 
> ...

I understand this config value for the $sendmail proc, as the man page
also explains. Does this really also affect the built-in SMTP client
functionality?

matthias


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Re: Send mail in background with built-in SMTP client?

2016-04-14 Thread Xu Wang
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:59 PM, Claus Assmann  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016, Xu Wang wrote:
>
>> I use mutt's built-in SMTP client. I would like to press 'y' and
>> immediately be able to move on to my next email without waiting. I
>
> Did you check the fine manual?
>
> 3.234. sendmail_wait
>
> Type: number
> Default: 0
>
> Specifies the number of seconds to wait for the $sendmail process to finish
> before giving up and putting delivery in the background.
>
> Mutt interprets the value of this variable as follows:
>
> +-+
> |>0|number of seconds to wait for sendmail to finish before continuing|
> |--+--|
> |0 |wait forever for sendmail to finish   |
> |--+--|
> |<0|always put sendmail in the background without waiting |
> +-+
>
> Note that if you specify a value other than 0, the output of the child process
> will be put in a temporary file. If there is some error, you will be informed
> as to where to find the output.
>

Thank you very much Claus. I did not check manual (I have read it two
times all the way through before, but I forget details). Thank you for
walking me through it and getting started. For more details I will
read manual.

Kind regards!

Xu


Re: Send mail in background with built-in SMTP client?

2016-04-14 Thread Claus Assmann
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016, Xu Wang wrote:

> I use mutt's built-in SMTP client. I would like to press 'y' and
> immediately be able to move on to my next email without waiting. I

Did you check the fine manual?

3.234. sendmail_wait

Type: number
Default: 0

Specifies the number of seconds to wait for the $sendmail process to finish
before giving up and putting delivery in the background.

Mutt interprets the value of this variable as follows:

+-+
|>0|number of seconds to wait for sendmail to finish before continuing|
|--+--|
|0 |wait forever for sendmail to finish   |
|--+--|
|<0|always put sendmail in the background without waiting |
+-+

Note that if you specify a value other than 0, the output of the child process
will be put in a temporary file. If there is some error, you will be informed
as to where to find the output.



Send mail in background with built-in SMTP client?

2016-04-14 Thread Xu Wang
Dear all,

I use mutt's built-in SMTP client. I would like to press 'y' and
immediately be able to move on to my next email without waiting. I
understand why it is important to wait---if the email send failed,
then it is important for you to know that. But is it possible to be
notified of a failed email in another way instead of having to wait?

Kind regards,

Xu


Re: How do you survive without notmuch?

2016-04-14 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 04:30:27PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote:
> I'm not as much worried about bloat, especially if it's an optional
> feature, but it seems like something that would be fairly difficult to
> implement in a way that is both fast and useful.
> 
> For me, the bigger areas where I find Mutt limiting are things like
> responding to Exchange / Gcal invites (though mostly just use Apple
> products for this now), not being able to view images inline, etc. Given
> how much less email is used these days (relative to text message,
> Facebook messaging, online forums / FB groups, Slack, etc.), the emails
> I *do* still get tend to be weighted more heavily in this direction than
> they used to be. That said, I still much prefer Mutt over GUI MUAs.

I agree with all these points.  I'd like to see Mutt additionally have
functionality to address all of these, plus the ability to easily add
new mail store types via a unified mailbox driver API.  It's obviously
possible, but I suspect that to make it maintainable would require
rewriting a lot of the core of Mutt.

IIRC there's a terminal-based web browser that has the ability to
display web pages, including images, in your terminal window--though
it may require the use of some specific terminal program, I can't
recall.  So even better HTML mail support should be doable in Mutt
without making it a GUI... But I would frankly like to see a GUI
option as well; I think it would be great if Mutt could switch back
and forth and have a relatively consistent UI in both cases.  It's
totally doable.  This is the kind of stuff that a modern mailer is
expected to have...

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Re: Mark threads as read for the future

2016-04-14 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 05:47:48PM +0200, Andreas Doll wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I'm using mutt in conjunction with offlineimap to filter mailinglists into
> separate folders. Usually I decide quickly if I'm interested in a thread or
> not - if not I press Ctrl-r to mark this thread as read and move on.
> 
> The "problem" with this is, that subsequent replies to this thread will marked
> as new again. Is there a way (flagging?) such that subsequent replies to this
> thread will be marked also as read, maybe utilizing offlineimap (which is able
> to mark mails as read)?

Hey Andreas,
I wrote a small folder-hook pattern which accomplishes a similar task
(deletes instead 'mark as read') [1]. I suspect it can be modified to
suit your needs (tag-pattern + tag-prefix maybe?).
Fire again if you need help

[1] http://ariis.it/static/articles/mutt-ml/page.html


Mark threads as read for the future

2016-04-14 Thread Andreas Doll
Hello

I'm using mutt in conjunction with offlineimap to filter mailinglists into
separate folders. Usually I decide quickly if I'm interested in a thread or
not - if not I press Ctrl-r to mark this thread as read and move on.

The "problem" with this is, that subsequent replies to this thread will marked
as new again. Is there a way (flagging?) such that subsequent replies to this
thread will be marked also as read, maybe utilizing offlineimap (which is able
to mark mails as read)?

Thanks!
Best regards,
Andreas