Re: How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash and fully deleted later?

[Christian Brabandt]

On Mi, 19 Jul 2017, Don Saklad wrote:

> How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash then if no
> exceptions fully deleted later?

:set trash=

Have a look at the manual. Note this feature has been available as a 
patch in older versions, but recent mutt versions support this feature 
natively.

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Re: How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash and fully deleted later?

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Don Saklad  [07-19-17 16:18]:
> How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash then if no
> exceptions fully deleted later?

instead of deleting on first look, save them to a folder intended for
deletion later and then delete from that folder when you feel like it.

ps, your editor does not line wrap and < 78 chars.
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Re: In mutt what different ways might the messages' spam information details/evalutions/numbering be used?...

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Matthias Apitz  [07-19-17 12:44]:
> On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:18:33 CEST, Don Saklad 
> wrote:
> >In mutt what different ways might the information
> >details/evalutions/numbering
> >on spam messages be used?...
> >
> 
> I use SpamAssassin, not part of mutt;

m to
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Re: In mutt how do you delete messages marked for deletion?... besides q

[Will Yardley]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 09:46:16PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día miércoles, julio 19, 2017 a las 12:00:49p. m. -0700, Timothy Knox 
> escribió:

> > > With $ (reload folder) or c (change folder).
> > 
> > But see this counterpoint: ;-)
> > 
> > http://tdk.hates-software.com/2008/03/19/04b81324.html
> 
> I would not count this as a bug in mutt, but a feature. The real actual
> function of $ in index is 'save changes to mailbox' and if mutt detects
> that the mailbox was modified (due to incoming new mails), it can not do
> this.

I wonder if this is true in all cases; I would think that a sync
operation might be safe in the case of file per message formats like
Maildir, and possibly over IMAP as well?

I do not find this as much of a problem as the person who wrote the post
above. However, I have a few specific incidents where mail is flooding
in very fast, where it does become very difficult to successfully run


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Re: In mutt how do you delete messages marked for deletion?... besides q

[Matthias Apitz]

Do not top post. If you do, I will not read any further mail from you again.

El día miércoles, julio 19, 2017 a las 04:10:06p. m. -0400, Don Saklad escribió:

> For an instant $ displays number of messages
> and number of messages deleted, but too quickly to read !

This must be a misconfiguration. It shouls say these numbers and ask for
confirmation of deletion. Check if you have set 'set delete=yes'.

matthias


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How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash and fully deleted later?

[Don Saklad]

How might deleted messages be put in some setup for trash then if no exceptions 
fully deleted later?

Re: In mutt how do you delete messages marked for deletion?... besides q

[Don Saklad]

For an instant $ displays number of messages
and number of messages deleted, but too quickly to read !

Any other ways to get rid of messages marked for deletion?... besides

q

$



Matthias Apitz  writes:

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>
> El día miércoles, julio 19, 2017 a las 12:00:49p. m. -0700, Timothy Knox 
> escribió:
>> > 
>> > With $ (reload folder) or c (change folder).
>> 
>> But see this counterpoint: ;-)
>> 
>> http://tdk.hates-software.com/2008/03/19/04b81324.html
>
> I would not count this as a bug in mutt, but a feature. The real actual
> function of $ in index is 'save changes to mailbox' and if mutt detects
> that the mailbox was modified (due to incoming new mails), it can not do
> this.
>
>   matthias

Re: In mutt how do you delete messages marked for deletion?... besides q

[Matthias Apitz]

El día miércoles, julio 19, 2017 a las 12:00:49p. m. -0700, Timothy Knox 
escribió:
> > 
> > With $ (reload folder) or c (change folder).
> 
> But see this counterpoint: ;-)
> 
> http://tdk.hates-software.com/2008/03/19/04b81324.html

I would not count this as a bug in mutt, but a feature. The real actual
function of $ in index is 'save changes to mailbox' and if mutt detects
that the mailbox was modified (due to incoming new mails), it can not do
this.

matthias
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Re: How to tell GUI MUAs to show message in a fixed font?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2017-04-26, Grant Edwards  wrote:
> On 2017-04-26, Will Yardley  wrote:
[...]
>>> > > Is there anything one can do when sending a plain text e-mail message
>>> > > to tell GUI-based MUAs that they should display it in a fixed font?
[...]
>> Send in HTML with the  tag? /ducks

Well, that's actually what I do now.  ;)

> If there was a simple way to get mutt to auto-magically do that to
> create a multipart/alternative text and HTML message body, that
> wouldn't be that bad an option.  Though I'd probably use  rather
> than , since  is less fragile.
>
> I also wouldn't be too averse to setting up some sort of scheme for
> running a message body thought asciidoc or rst to produce HTML and
> plaintext multipart alternative.

The solution I settled (and have been using for a couple weeks now) is
to use mutt's 'sendmail' configuration setting to pipe outgoing mail
to the 'muttdown' utility which will look for text-plain parts and add
an alterntive html version by formatting them with markdown (if the
body part begins with !m) or escape them and enclose them in a
 tag (if the body part begins with !p).  I tried using
, but Gmail doesn't support it.

If a text-plain body part doesn't begin with either !m or !p, then it
is sent untouched.

The sources for my enhanced version of muttdown are here:

  https://github.com/GrantEdwards/muttdown/tree/work

My enhancements over the original muttdown are:

 * Fix bug in handling or exit code from external sendmail.

 * Load user-configurable muttdown extensions.

 * Add !p sigil which encloses everything in 

 * Only remove the first !p or !m sigil before converting to HTML.

 * Add option to remove sigil from plaintext alternate.

 * Make "-c" optional.

 * Restructure code so you can run main.py directly without doing an a
   "python setup.py install".

 * Add  tags around the whole message to enable 'global'
   CSS settings that you want to apply to everything.

One thing I'd still like to do is to add NTLM auth support to the SMTP
client code that's built in to muttdown.  Currently, I have to
configure muttdown to pipe the outgoing mail to msmtp (which knows how
to do NTLM auth).

It would be a lot cleaner if mutt provided some sort of
sendmail-filter-hook that would allow you to specify an external
command that could be use as a filter on the outgoing message (headers
and all) just before it is sent...

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Re: In mutt how do you delete messages marked for deletion?... besides q

[Timothy Knox]

Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 02:23:30PM +0200, Matthias 
Apitz wrote:
> El d?a Wednesday, July 19, 2017 a las 08:03:58AM -0400, Don Saklad escribi?:
> 
> > In mutt how do you delete messages marked with D ?... besides q
> 
> With $ (reload folder) or c (change folder).

But see this counterpoint: ;-)

http://tdk.hates-software.com/2008/03/19/04b81324.html

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Re: In mutt what different ways might the messages' spam information details/evalutions/numbering be used?...

[Matthias Apitz]

On Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:18:33 CEST, Don Saklad  
wrote:
In mutt what different ways might the information 
details/evalutions/numbering

on spam messages be used?...



I use SpamAssassin, not part of mutt;



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In mutt what different ways might the messages' spam information details/evalutions/numbering be used?...

[Don Saklad]

In mutt what different ways might the information details/evalutions/numbering
on spam messages be used?...

Re: In mutt how do you delete messages marked for deletion?... besides q

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Don Saklad  [07-19-17 08:12]:
> In mutt how do you delete messages marked with D ?... besides q

us-english keyboard, uppercase 4, $

and it is in tfm :)
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Re: In mutt how do you delete messages marked for deletion?... besides q

[Matthias Apitz]

El d�a Wednesday, July 19, 2017 a las 08:03:58AM -0400, Don Saklad escribi�:

> In mutt how do you delete messages marked with D ?... besides q

With $ (reload folder) or c (change folder).

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Re: In mutt how do you delete messages marked for deletion?... besides q

[Niels ten Oever]

$

On 07/19/2017 02:03 PM, Don Saklad wrote:
> In mutt how do you delete messages marked with D ?... besides q
> 

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In mutt how do you delete messages marked for deletion?... besides q

[Don Saklad]

In mutt how do you delete messages marked with D ?... besides q

Re: What do different characters mean that appear in the columns between the message number and the date?

[Marco Dickert]

On 2017-07-19 08:36:19, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> The 'F' I don't know and have never seen.

F means that the message was sent from you. I see this flag on my monitoring
mails, because the sender is "moni...@misterunknown.de" and my alternates look
like this:

alternates "^.*?@misterunknown\.de"

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Re: What do different characters mean that appear in the columns between the message number and the date?

[Thibaut Marty]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 08:36:19AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día miércoles, julio 19, 2017 a las 01:37:56a. m. -0400, Don Saklad 
> escribió:
> 
> > What do different characters mean that appear in the columns between the
> > message number and the date, for example... 
> > 
> > O 
> > 
> > + 
> > 
> > F 
> 
> N = new, unread
> O = see in index, but unread
> D = deleted
> s = signed
> S = signed, verified
> ! = flagged as important
> r = replied
> 
> The 'F' I don't know and have never seen.


F = messages from you (in the second flag) as stated in the manual:
http://mutt.org/doc/manual/#tab-msg-status-flags


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Re: What do different characters mean that appear in the columns between the message number and the date?

[Matthias Apitz]

El día miércoles, julio 19, 2017 a las 01:37:56a. m. -0400, Don Saklad escribió:

> What do different characters mean that appear in the columns between the
> message number and the date, for example... 
> 
> O 
> 
> + 
> 
> F 

N = new, unread
O = see in index, but unread
D = deleted
s = signed
S = signed, verified
! = flagged as important
r = replied

The 'F' I don't know and have never seen.

matthias

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