mutt 1.05 TLS socket terminated?

2019-08-24 Thread Tom Fowle
Since I posted this problem, I did a
apt-get update
for other reasons and the tls problem seems to have disappeared.
(So far anyhow)

Tom Fowle WA6IVG


Using mutt 1.5.23 with Debian 8 jessie.
I am getting the following problem while reading messages.

approximately:
"The TLS socket was improperly terminated.
can not copy messages."

This appears on the screen for only just long enough for my screen reader to
grab it but dissappears before I can copy or check it..

I then have the usual top line menu and a blank screen.

Being simplistic by nature I just exit mutt and restart but all messages
which have been marked for deletion remain in the inbox and unless i have
kept carefull track of the last read message number before the TLS error I
have to trundle through all the previously read messages till I find the
first unmarked message.

This problem is becomming more frequent, often two occurrences in a
hundred message session.

Before I get into just updating mutt and debian as the most likely
resolutions, would like to know if this is a known problem and whether the
mutt or "OS" updates are more likely to fix it.

PLS don't yell at me for not being up to date,  I hate updating.  So now I'm
paying the price.


TNX
Tom Fowle WA6IVG



Re: Getting color on FreeBSD

2019-08-24 Thread Derek Schrock
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 08:14:28PM EDT, Tim Chase wrote:
> I'm a bit stuck trying to figure out why colors aren't working for me
> on FreeBSD (where I understand that termcap is used rather than
> terminfo).

According to the configure script it appears all you need for color is
start_color() from ncurses which should be there in the base system.

Can you provide 'mutt -v' output?  Does it have +HAVE_COLOR?

Are you building mutt from source or using ports/pkg? If so can you
provide the output off 'pkg info -f mutt' 

> So the terminal is doing color as expected, but somehow mutt/neomutt
> doesn't seem to recognize that.  Is there some trick that I've missed
> for getting mutt/neomutt to play well with termcap/FreeBSD?

I'm doing nothing special in ports/pkg or from source and colors just
works with macOS Terminal/iTerm2, or cygwin xterm.

Do you get color unknown command when you try to use 'color ...' in a
.muttrc?


Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap

2019-08-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Yes, those macros work and do so silently.  Thanks for the macros and
the idea to bind stuff to the comma key.  I hadn't thought of that one
before.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, Mark Frank wrote:

> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:00:27
> From: Mark Frank 
> To: mutt-users@mutt.org
> Subject: Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 1:21 PM Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>
> > mutt is set up to download pop3 but has no keyboard shortcut to download
> > imap or didn't the last time I went through its documentation.
> >
> >
> I've had this in my muttrc for years.  Don't  if if any of these values are
> optimum as I don't use mutt much anymore but it does work.
>
>
> $ grep imap ./.mutt/muttrc | egrep -v ^#
> set spoolfile=imaps://imap.gmail.com/INBOX
> set folder=imaps://imap.gmail.com/
> set imap_keepalive = 900
> set imap_user='m...@markanderika.com'
> set imap_pass=x
> set imap_keepalive=300
> unset imap_passive
> set postponed=imaps://stag.mark-and-erika.com/INBOX.postponed
> macro index ,g  "force retrieval of mail from IMAP server"
> macro pager ,g  "force retrieval of mail from IMAP server"
>

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Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Frank
Yes.  Just tested and confirmed as I don't use mutt as much as I used to do.

On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 2:25 PM Jude DaShiell  wrote:

> Interesting, so you would hit ,g to download imap email?
>
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, Mark Frank wrote:
> > macro index ,g  "force retrieval of mail from IMAP
> server"
> > macro pager ,g  "force retrieval of mail from IMAP
> server"
> >
>
> --
>
>


Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap

2019-08-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
Interesting, so you would hit ,g to download imap email?

On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, Mark Frank wrote:

> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 14:00:27
> From: Mark Frank 
> To: mutt-users@mutt.org
> Subject: Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 1:21 PM Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>
> > mutt is set up to download pop3 but has no keyboard shortcut to download
> > imap or didn't the last time I went through its documentation.
> >
> >
> I've had this in my muttrc for years.  Don't  if if any of these values are
> optimum as I don't use mutt much anymore but it does work.
>
>
> $ grep imap ./.mutt/muttrc | egrep -v ^#
> set spoolfile=imaps://imap.gmail.com/INBOX
> set folder=imaps://imap.gmail.com/
> set imap_keepalive = 900
> set imap_user='m...@markanderika.com'
> set imap_pass=x
> set imap_keepalive=300
> unset imap_passive
> set postponed=imaps://stag.mark-and-erika.com/INBOX.postponed
> macro index ,g  "force retrieval of mail from IMAP server"
> macro pager ,g  "force retrieval of mail from IMAP server"
>

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Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap

2019-08-24 Thread Mark Frank
On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 1:21 PM Jude DaShiell  wrote:

> mutt is set up to download pop3 but has no keyboard shortcut to download
> imap or didn't the last time I went through its documentation.
>
>
I've had this in my muttrc for years.  Don't  if if any of these values are
optimum as I don't use mutt much anymore but it does work.


$ grep imap ./.mutt/muttrc | egrep -v ^#
set spoolfile=imaps://imap.gmail.com/INBOX
set folder=imaps://imap.gmail.com/
set imap_keepalive = 900
set imap_user='m...@markanderika.com'
set imap_pass=x
set imap_keepalive=300
unset imap_passive
set postponed=imaps://stag.mark-and-erika.com/INBOX.postponed
macro index ,g  "force retrieval of mail from IMAP server"
macro pager ,g  "force retrieval of mail from IMAP server"


Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap

2019-08-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
mutt is set up to download pop3 but has no keyboard shortcut to download
imap or didn't the last time I went through its documentation.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 11:41:42
> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." 
> To: Jude DaShiell 
> Cc: mutt-users@mutt.org
> Subject: Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap
>
> Hello Jude,
>
> It's possible to access gmail and download messages by adding imap
> locations and NOT use a mail transport program.  Everything is set up
> within the muttrc file.
>
> Burt Henry of the Vinux Wiki.
>
> Mutt vs. Alpine.
> http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/alpine_mutt
>
> Mutt Configuration and Basic Use.
> http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/mutt_configuration_and_basic_use
>
> He manages to do this just in muttrc.
>
> Here's the section of muttrc,
>
> ##Account Specific Settings
> # Change the following six lines to match your Gmail account details
> #And Uncomment and edit if YOU DO NOT WANT to USE ENCRYPTED PASSWD.
> #And comment out the top section that does the PW encryption.
> set imap_user = "gmail_han...@gmail.com"
> #set imap_pass = "my_PW"
> set smtp_url = "smtp://gmail_han...@smtp.gmail.com:587/"
> #set smtp_pass = "my_PW"
> set from = "gmail_han...@gmail.com"
> set realname = "My Name"
>
> # Change the following line to a different editor you prefer.
> set editor = "nano"
>
> ## GMail Config
> #(most of this should work with other IMAP accounts)
> ## Basic config, you can leave this as is in most cases
> # Not sure if timeout and keepalive value tweaking will help
> intermittent connection issues
> # (time values are in seconds)
> set wait_key = no
> set folder = "imaps://imap.gmail.com:993"
> set spoolfile = "+INBOX"
> set imap_check_subscribed
> set hostname = gmail.com
> set mail_check = 180
> set timeout = 300
> # Allow Mutt to open new imap connection automatically.
> unset imap_passive
> # Keep IMAP connection alive by polling intermittently
> set imap_keepalive = 210
> set postponed = "+[GMail]/Drafts"
> set record = "+[GMail]/Sent Mail"
> set header_cache=~/.mutt/cache/headers
> set message_cachedir=~/.mutt/cache/bodies
> set certificate_file=~/.mutt/certificates
> set alias_file=~/.mutt/aliases
> set move = no
> set include
> set sort = 'threads'
> set sort_aux = 'reverse-last-date-received'
> set auto_tag = yes
> ## Reminds you of missing subject or empty body with msg
> sent as default
> set abort_nosubject = ask-no
> set abort_unmodified = ask-no
> ignore "Authentication-Results:"
> ignore "DomainKey-Signature:"
> ignore "DKIM-Signature:"
> hdr_order Date From To Cc
> alternative_order text/plain text/html *
> auto_view text/html
>
> This is from page:  http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/muttrc
>
> Unfortunately, there are errors in his delightfully easy gpg configuration,
> and sometimes he has googlemail instead of gmail and googlemail no longer
> works for me in this muttrc.
>
> There is also a more elaborate muttrc file with more features, but maybe
> the same errors, I'm going through it step by step and writing down the
> errors.
>
> Since I have access to the Vinux Wiki I will upload the corrections as soon
> as I make sure they are correct.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> David Ring
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 10:14 Jude DaShiell  wrote:
>
> > I think I can help there, only thing is mine has the mutt blind-friendly
> > options in it.
> >
> > On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> >
> >
>

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Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap

2019-08-24 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Hello Jude,

It's possible to access gmail and download messages by adding imap
locations and NOT use a mail transport program.  Everything is set up
within the muttrc file.

Burt Henry of the Vinux Wiki.

Mutt vs. Alpine.
http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/alpine_mutt

Mutt Configuration and Basic Use.
http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/mutt_configuration_and_basic_use

He manages to do this just in muttrc.

Here's the section of muttrc,

##Account Specific Settings
# Change the following six lines to match your Gmail account details
#And Uncomment and edit if YOU DO NOT WANT to USE ENCRYPTED PASSWD.
#And comment out the top section that does the PW encryption.
set imap_user = "gmail_han...@gmail.com"
#set imap_pass = "my_PW"
set smtp_url = "smtp://gmail_han...@smtp.gmail.com:587/"
#set smtp_pass = "my_PW"
set from = "gmail_han...@gmail.com"
set realname = "My Name"

# Change the following line to a different editor you prefer.
set editor = "nano"

## GMail Config
#(most of this should work with other IMAP accounts)
## Basic config, you can leave this as is in most cases
# Not sure if timeout and keepalive value tweaking will help
intermittent connection issues
# (time values are in seconds)
set wait_key = no
set folder = "imaps://imap.gmail.com:993"
set spoolfile = "+INBOX"
set imap_check_subscribed
set hostname = gmail.com
set mail_check = 180
set timeout = 300
# Allow Mutt to open new imap connection automatically.
unset imap_passive
# Keep IMAP connection alive by polling intermittently
set imap_keepalive = 210
set postponed = "+[GMail]/Drafts"
set record = "+[GMail]/Sent Mail"
set header_cache=~/.mutt/cache/headers
set message_cachedir=~/.mutt/cache/bodies
set certificate_file=~/.mutt/certificates
set alias_file=~/.mutt/aliases
set move = no
set include
set sort = 'threads'
set sort_aux = 'reverse-last-date-received'
set auto_tag = yes
## Reminds you of missing subject or empty body with msg
sent as default
set abort_nosubject = ask-no
set abort_unmodified = ask-no
ignore "Authentication-Results:"
ignore "DomainKey-Signature:"
ignore "DKIM-Signature:"
hdr_order Date From To Cc
alternative_order text/plain text/html *
auto_view text/html

This is from page:  http://wiki.vinuxproject.org/muttrc

Unfortunately, there are errors in his delightfully easy gpg configuration,
and sometimes he has googlemail instead of gmail and googlemail no longer
works for me in this muttrc.

There is also a more elaborate muttrc file with more features, but maybe
the same errors, I'm going through it step by step and writing down the
errors.

Since I have access to the Vinux Wiki I will upload the corrections as soon
as I make sure they are correct.

Best wishes,

David Ring

On Sat, Aug 24, 2019, 10:14 Jude DaShiell  wrote:

> I think I can help there, only thing is mine has the mutt blind-friendly
> options in it.
>
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>
>


Re: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap

2019-08-24 Thread Jude DaShiell
I think I can help there, only thing is mine has the mutt blind-friendly
options in it.

On Sat, 24 Aug 2019, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 10:09:48
> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." 
> To: mutt-users@mutt.org
> Subject: Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap
>
> For some blind and visually impaired users graphical user interfaces are as
> frustrating as a game of blindfolded archery.
>
> Does anyone have a simple good example of a muttrc file that can access
> gmail imap email by just changing "username" to your real user name and
> "password" to your real password?
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>

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Simple muttrc file for accessing Gmail imap

2019-08-24 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
For some blind and visually impaired users graphical user interfaces are as
frustrating as a game of blindfolded archery.

Does anyone have a simple good example of a muttrc file that can access
gmail imap email by just changing "username" to your real user name and
"password" to your real password?

Thanks,

David